Everton Rumours Archive May 21 2016

21 May 2016 13:45:36
Well it's quite obvious that the everton fc board are waiting to see what happens with Jose Mourinho, how Koeman's discussions go with Southampton and maybe Rafa's as well with Newcastle. in the likelihood of Jose joining Man United and Koeman staying on at Southampton, I believe we will appoint Frank De Boer as gaffer and give him a 3 year contract. telling him in that time to achieve and win something and if not onto the next one!

21 May 2016 14:29:06
we are not waiting for anything regarding Benitez Soli. he is waiting for us, going to be a long wait rafa!

21 May 2016 15:53:09
Rafa is definitely waiting for the call to come here and as for Koeman yes he has been excellent at Southampton but even there fans are fed up now as they know he wants a big European move and will do every summer.

21 May 2016 16:00:24
. has Koeman actually ever won anything of substance? I was looking at his managerial record and didn't find any trophies of note. another Davey Moyes maybe.

21 May 2016 17:09:34
I agree Soli, Koeman has not done anything really to warrant any excitement, Jose throws the towel in after 2-3 years, as for Rafa. well that speaks for itself and pellegrini can't motivate!

21 May 2016 18:43:41
The Everton board are not waiting about Mourinho, they are progressing at their own speed, thankfully this decision now involves more than good old Bill and as it is a very important one, they need to take their time.

21 May 2016 21:42:22
Jeeeez Soli and longyefc the way you 2 are talking there will be no manager left for us. Not saying this is going to happen but I'd take Jose or Koeman in a heart beat. Don't think there is many clubs in the world who wouldn't want them as manager.

Rafa no thank you. Pell wouldn't be overjoyed as defense doesn't seem to be his forte. But we could do a lot worse. I'd be happy with 3 out of them 4. Just out of curiosity who would you's like to see coming in?

21 May 2016 22:31:37
Don't know who we will get, just hope Bill is on his holidays, when it's time to pick our new man.

22 May 2016 07:51:14
Not sure Nb, my concern regarding koeman an Jose is they will have the Rom factor in that they will be touting themselves for bigger jobs as soon as they arrive. Never really thought about him for the role but has hiddink found a new club?

{Ed025's Note - he is expected to retire longy..

22 May 2016 08:17:41
Cheers Ed.

22 May 2016 09:24:27
I share your concern to a far less degree. Imho you can't be appointing a manager thinking its not going to work out. If either came I would hope they would be successful and therefore not want to leave.

Alot seem to want someone who is capable of wining something within a couple of years. Who better than Mourinho to do that. Please no one start saying we have no chance of Mourinho. Just speculating here. No one will know exactly who our manager is going to be until it is announced. So there is plenty more speculation to come from plenty of different people.

I'd prefer Koeman but happy with both. Who knows FDB could be better than both of them. Don't care who it is if he does a good job. Hell if Mike Walker came back and done a good job I'd be happy.

21 May 2016 11:08:25
Hope the long term contract rumour for Tom Davies is true, reminds me of dele alli.

21 may 2016 14:32:30
nah sorry mate deli alli reminds me of tom davis.

21 May 2016 17:44:42
Alan Ball mate, runs, tackles and can pass. Like this kid a lot, just needs the right manager now.

21 May 2016 07:54:32
I believe the Everton manager has quite an imput in choosing signings. More than Ed002 understands. (sorry Ed002 I am not trying to be confrontational) . As soon as Martinez arrived we signed: McCarthy, Robles, Kone and Alcaraz all from Wigan. I cannot believe that we had scouted these players previously. and if we had, the scouts needed firing in a firing squad. Added to this, I remember Moyes being quoted as saying that he personally vetted every signing at the club. He checked out their personalities as much as their ability in order to make sure they were decent men and would fit into the Everton way. Players like Tim Howard, Leighton Baines, Jags, Coleman, Distin, Neville etc are players that spring to mind. The list goes on. I do not see that Moyes would have signed Niasse from the trouble he has allegedly caused in such a short space of time. but perhaps that is too soon to judge? Either way, I believe the Everton manager has the final say on signings.

{Ed002's Note - Did I say he didn't have an input in signings? I understand the situation perfectly. What I suspect you don't understand is the influence of Reeeves in all of this.}

21 May 2016 10:41:24
Think you've misunderstood, Degsy.

21 May 2016 12:21:23
You both have to be correct. It obviously depends on the individual manager. The scouting team under the head scout has the responsibility to watch players and report back to the club, the manager obviously reads the reports. I seem to remember Moyes going out to watch players so sometimes managers will only sign a player if they have seen them in person and sometimes the manager has to rely on video evidence. Once a decision has been made to sign or attempt to sign a player the signing on team in our case presumably Reeves and Harrison do all of the negotiating etc. It would appear that in the case of Martinez that Reeves was trusted to do more of the scouting and decision making than maybe Moyes would have allowed. If that is the case I hope that we don't end up with more Niasse's in this period when we don't have a manager.

21 May 2016 13:44:46
I love how the benchmark for poor signings is Niasse.

21 May 2016 15:19:53
Well Hugo let's look at the facts. We paid three times more for him than he was worth a year ago. He played well in an inferior league but has not proved he is capable of playing in a good league. He has played very little for us since he arrived. He had wrist problems. He needed time to get fit. He is in trouble with the law. When he played he was rubbish. Have I missed anything out? I do hope that he proves me wrong but the facts so far indicate we made a big mistake in signing him.

21 May 2016 09:54:47
I have to agree with degsy I understand what your trying to say EDS but the managed must have the final say like degsy said you only have to look at the sighning of the players over the years they match the manager in charge in every club.

{Ed002's Note - I have explained how the transfer system works at Everton and it is similar at otehr clubs. Feel free to ignore what I am saying.}

21 May 2016 11:54:42
If that is the case Ed002 then in my opinion you are both right but the fact that Reeves had influence in Kone and Alcaraz being signed makes me wonder why he is still at the Club. Actually I don't wonder because any new Manager will want to bring in his own Team.

{Ed002's Note - Managers do not have their own teams of scouts. Whilst Reeves arrived from Wigan you can look at any other club and see that is not the case. Do you think Klipperty came with his own scouts? Conte will arrive but not with a bus load of scouts.}

21 May 2016 20:00:46
Ed002 has Kevin Reeves not left along with Martinez? I remember reading that he left also.

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware that he has.}

21 May 2016 22:14:42
Reeves was relieved of duties before the Norwich game, returned on Monday to clear his locker out.

{Ed002's Note - They will be recruiting someone new then.}

21 May 2016 23:46:17
Ed002 hasn't said what some are implying here. What I did see him saying is that managers inputs into transfers vary from club to club. Everton seem to be one of the clubs who have a more traditional approach still going on.

Like the manager having a good say on who to sign. That may change for our next manager. Who knows? Me I prefer the good old system of the manager picking players that he thinks fits into his plans. Seems to complicate things to have a director of football or whatever taking care of signings.