Everton Rumours Archive July 01 2013

01 Jul 2013 23:24:57
Why are we signing players of an old age and of that sort money which is being talked. We need young fresh players with experience {Ed025's Note - how can they be young and fresh...and experienced??..

Bale, is young fresh and experienced.

We haven't signed anyone, so how can we be signing 'old' players?

Nonsense with have a youth system for a reason until we have a good first team squad then a player who can slot striaght in is a must, then you start the search for the long term.

im not talking getting 35 years old but getting good quality late 20 somethings isn't the end of the world

MikeDeBlue

Lets not forget he's 30 and average. Praying this doesn't come off.

Exactly bale is. Leroy fer is I would say also

Kone is 29, realistically that's another 3 years at the level he's currently at (and he seems to keep himself in decent shape). That is 3 years for our scouting system to find someone to take over while Kone contributes to the team now.

As for comments on him being average, I like his style of play and think he will make an excellent foil for Jelly (who will hopefully start firing again), not exactly a prolific striker himself he does create chances and is always willing to run the channels and link up with the midfield.

As a final comment for signing older players - anyone else's eyebrows raise when we bought a 31 year old Sylvain Distin for £5m? No problem if they keep themselves in shape

We never paid 5 mil for distin

Yes we did

We did pay 5mil for Distin. I was skeptical at first. The guy is superman I tell you. Most strikers don't even bother trying to run past him as tthey know he is so quick, they just lay it off

01 Jul 2013 23:12:05
Kone will sign for Everton tomorrow aftertoon, fee agreed last week at £6m

BlueMike

If money is so tight at the club then why are we spending £6m on a 30 year old?

01 Jul 2013 22:52:18
Owen Coyle on talksport about 10. 30 saying Kone expected to leave this week and EFC is his preference. Looks like a done deal. Good player but doesn't help with the average squad age! let's hope it's a decent price

Good player?. please debate.

As for price, that will be a minimum of 5 million.

Why is he not a good player? quick, strong & more importantly SCORES goals. what is the point in having a low average age? surely its about ability and not age

So what if he is 29, if he can bang in goals for 2-3 seasons, better than having neville on the books and doing f**k all

I hate fans who are so concerned about age, he's 29 not 50, you can't just bye a 18 year old no good for next season

Point is he's 29 and and DOESN'T bang in goals.6mil off everton. Whelan has done well.

The fans who say "I hate fans who are so concerned about age" are completely missing the point, normally we would not be bothered about signing a couple older players, but it's the fact that we have about the 2nd oldest squad in the Premier League, and we don't want to add to that and become the oldest squad! A list of the players who are over 27 (including Alcaraz and Kone if they sign)

Mucha, Howard, Jagielka, Baines, Distin, Hibbert, Alcaraz, Osman, Pienaar, Hitzlsperger, Jelavic & Kone

We should be aiming to get younger players, and fans who "hate fans who are so concerned about age" seem to think this means 17/18 year olds. Well it doesn't, it means younger than the likes of Kone & Alcaraz.

I thought mucha and 'der hammer' had been released?

01 Jul 2013 22:48:34
Fred or Damaio will be our new striker, Which one will come depends on whether we sell Fellaini or not.

Bull. New striker is going to be Kone (source: Owen Coyle)

We are planning on getting two. Anicibe and/or jelavic likely to leave.

02 Jul 2013 00:11:27
So wait a minute we are potentially signing a 26m pound rated damiao if fellaini leaves or a 29 year old finished striker best known for his name? And we are not going to put any money into a midfielder? Oh well may aswell stop supporting everton and drop yogurts off in sylvain's milk float instead.

No chance in hell will we get either, fred raised his fee during the confed cup and damaio is injured, that is why jo made the squad

Weve got more chance of signing Fred West

Fred has been sold already to Shatstyia Donanskt for €15m
I don't think EFC have that kind of cash

01 Jul 2013 21:12:21
It seems that we are linked with lots of players right now. But the fact is our name is being used to tempt clubs to buy these players. Everton are not in for these players. To name 4. Fer ; honda the lad from Birmingham and the corneleous bloke who signed ladt week for another prem team. Don't believe 90% of what's out there. i'm sure RM has his own targets and names we won't be familiar with.

01 Jul 2013 21:39:56
I believe 90% of that post

Reckon you are pretty spot on there. Trouble is if Martinez has his own targets who we have never heard of and cost about 4m most of the readers here will assume they are useless before they get on the pitch. everyones an expert here.
RickTee

01 Jul 2013 20:42:38
A friend of mine has a family member on the board, Kone is not one of our main targets and is only a contingency plan for in case we fail to land Aubemyang. The club have made contact but do not have the 18m being quoted. Bony has also been watched along with midfielder Rio Mavuba of Lille. No signings will be made before Evertons first pre-season game.

EFCMichael

Koné will sign this week or next week, and Aubameyang will only cost €12m.

01 Jul 2013 20:40:11
martinez to table bid for stefan johansen

Who does he play for now {Ed025's Note - stromsgodset..

What league {Ed025's Note - google it mate..

01 Jul 2013 20:06:55
Ed any strikers you know we are interested in? {Ed025's Note - kone..

Kone, bent and ba

01 Jul 2013 19:49:42
Will u all wake up about the Rooney coming back to us rumours! Like that is ever going to happen! Sorry to sound negative but Alcarez? He was one of the worst defenders in the prem lst season! I really am concerned for us an think it will all be last min dealings as per usual an we end up with all the crap nobody wants if we get anyone at all!

Alcarez will surprise you, he's a good addition. Trust Martinez

Alcarez only played about 10games last season! He was injured for most of season!
SpekeBlue

One of those last last minute signings your talking about was Mirallas last season, so are you calling him crap?

A list of our crap last minute signings over the years:

Mirallas
Arteta
Fellaini
Drenthe

A list of our early signings over the years:

Davies
Naismith
Johnson
Koldrup

I know which list I would rather have, so all you bed wetters out their you need to get a grip. Mike S

01 Jul 2013 20:39:52
Alcaraz was one of the worst defenders in the prem last season? Well he must of scored about 60 own goals and gave away just as many penalities because he played about 11 times and is a good player imo and has something different to distin and jags, he can pass the ball

Firstly the 10 games he did play in were enough to know he is not what we want at our club! secondly I wasnt referring to current players! I just have a horrible feeling about next season! Honda would be an amazing buy but I just can't see it! If we lose Fellaini which is looking likely we need to replace him with a top class player and I just can't see it. If Everton really want to succeed and go forward why are we looking to get rid of our best players and prob replace with average at best?

Mr negatron! get a grip you loser.

in robbie we trust!


stewillow

Go and look at the Stats for the games he played. Your embarrassing yourself.

01 Jul 2013 21:21:36
Sounds like someone doesn't know what he is talking about and is back pedaling. as for the list. drenthe being a last minute deal being a good thing, not a chance. he was rubbish. peanuts is a far better player. Mirra11as wasn't last minute either. he was revealed to the crowd the night we beat utd. Oviedo was last minute and we haven't seen anything from him


Blue ray

Ask any Wigan fan and they will tell you the main reason they went down last year is because alcarez was out injured, look at the cup game at everton and the final as two examples!
Matty

Don't even try and say you watched Alcaraz, because you obviously never. He was basically injured all season and I think he will be a great addition, better than johnny

I will remind you of this next season then if we sign him on how good he is! We are all entitled to our opinions and I don't think he is good enough for Everton!

Oh and if he was injured for most of the season that's another reason to stay well clear!

Wigan fan here, you're all right he doesn't know s**t about Alcaraz. He will be a good addition for you, and for free, it really is a no-brainer.

He obviously didn't see the Quater Final, where he was the best man on the park.

As for your new manager. well. let's see.

01 Jul 2013 18:58:51
i think Carlos Vela would be a great signing any chance ed? {Ed025's Note - not really ryan..

01 Jul 2013 18:04:06
see that moyes had a meetin with rooney 3 weeks ago still on everton payroll then bids for baines he taken the piss ed {Ed025's Note - no argument from me mate..

No different from roberto martinez for us, from what I've been told he spoke to jags and baines the day after he was appointed yet the rest of the squad only a week ago and mostly via calls, but baines and jags where spoken to straight away as one he sees as a key player and the other his captain, I don't care what moyes does as long as he leaves our players alone, he's just a dirty manc ginger person now, I appreciate what he did for us but now its all about martinez

Moyse has been taking the piss since he decided not to sign a new contract, Ginger person

01 Jul 2013 16:12:56
i don't know where this has come from, but at first I was like no, no, no, but just forget he played for Liverpool and then it could be a great signing, oh your probably wondering who I am going on about, well its yossi benayoun, west brom and everton are proper interested in getting him in.

God no! nothing to offer, pienaar, mirallas osman and barkley all better

No No No!

Ditto ditto ditto!

Dont want him because he's an awful footballer not because he plays for liverpool, I couldn't care if someone played for the dark side just as long as their quality and want to play for us

Would of had him 3 or 4 yrs ago!

01 Jul 2013 15:48:26
Ed how much do you think is available for martinez to spend if we sell no one?
Cheeks {Ed025's Note - i reckon around £15m cheeks..

Is that without selling no one tho? If we sell heitinga and gueye we have 22 million to spend

Thanks Ed, I was thinking around that figure too, I guess only the board really knows though and we shall see soon enough mate
Cheeks

01 Jul 2013 17:15:26
You must be joking the board will not give RM any cash till players are sold. SIMPLE

Eric D

Poster no3 what r u on of course Martinez will have money to spend without selling. No manager would go to a club and say he will get us champions league football and wants to keep our best players if he doesn't have money. He wouldn't of come to everton if he was told he had no money simples

Ed if that is the case then why are wanting to pay wigan 5m on the drip for kone? {Ed025's Note - so as more can be spent on other targets, i would suggest..

£10 million including agents fees.

I think you left the decimal point out. More like 1.5 mill to spend if we don't sell. Alcaraz, a goalie on a free and a striker on loan. Face it. We are skint!

Is that with or without sales ed? {Ed025's Note - without..

I thought 15 - 20m now i'm thinking less then 10, I reckon BK is banking on the felli sale TBH to even consider 20m

01 Jul 2013 14:54:28
Pennington signs pro contract. At everton

Who is player

01 Jul 2013 14:37:21
My friend gave me some news about potential speculation. (firstly I can't name him but he used to play for everton from age 14 to early 20s but never made breakthrough to first team. he still speaks to some people at the club and has friends who still speak to other people at the club, and he told me that this is basically the combination of what he's heard but he can't validate it all as true. )
we won't be after wigans mcmanaman or mccarthy. martinez wants to utilize barkley much more this season as he sees him as a real top class talent and thinks he could offer a lot without having to spend transfer funds on a player in the same position. kone is a strong possibility but won't be confirmed until very late in the window because martinez is looking at a few other strikers and assessing his options before making a move, kone is currently the favourite to join because martinez knows how he performs on and off the field but his signature is not definate. stone at right back is expected to figure a lot this season. martinez appernetly expressed an interest in tom cleverley and if baines is sold it will be on the provision we have a bid accepted for cleverley, its not a player part exchange, just a bid accepted that would be rejected for other teams.

01 Jul 2013 19:01:24
God no! Cleverley is the most untalented footballer in the prem (well close between him, mikel and delap) just doesn't do anything I watch him and he misses chances passes sideways and never looks up I know your lying but just saying cleverley is awful

01 Jul 2013 13:32:07
Everton look to miss out on the signing of redmond with norwich agreeing a deal which will rise to 3.5m (bargain) source tv

No disrespect to the lad, but Norwich is about his right level, would be a backwards step for us, we need better quality than this to improve.

Redmond wants to come to Everton so he will reject the contract

BlueHaze

Would have been one for the future but no stronger than our bench. We need 1st teamers, not future prospects, with our funds.

01 Jul 2013 12:08:31
how true any of this is I don't know but the guy is usually reliable

baines has met both martinez and kenwright and is pretty insistent on he wants to stay at everton regardless of the bid

fellaini has informed them both he wants out this summer as he believes he's ready for champions league football and everton can't match the wages he could get elsewhere, his agent has contacted a host of europes top clubs to try get some concrete interest, juventus and dortmund have both declined

heitinga has told them both to try make a move to either ajax or the bundesliga happen this summer or he goes on a free next summer anyway

a loan connection that will see us loan 4 of our younger prospects to sheff utd has been agreed in principle, helps our youngsters get first team experience under a familiar old head

kone has contacted us rather than the other way round to engineer a move but has been told there is interest but he's not a priority of martinez so only expect a bid if martinez can't get his top targets

alcaraz will sign, no doubts that will go through asap, martinez likes him and believes he will add something new to the defence

we haven't spoke to redmond but his agent has twice contacted the club to try engineer interest from our side as he's supposedly set his heart on a move to us, although with swansea setting a deadline on their contract offer anything can happen there

ive heard a few things on the whole we have met rooneys agents etc etc blah blah blah but it just seems so far fetched, but its deffaintly picking up some legs from somewhere, maybe just us all hoping he's coming home

can you confirm any of this ED's? or anyone else even? {Ed025's Note - it all seems pretty plausible to me mate, but hard at this stage to confirm it..

Agree with Ed, sounds fairly legit just have to see what the weeks bring

MikeyEFC

Don't sell Baines. bill said he doesn't need to sell. baines doesn't want to go. this is the most important business of the summer. this is really about kenwright and evertons ambition and credibility. I think all of are fan base wants Baines to stay,. don't sell.

You can only loan two players to the same club

Can only loan 2 players at a time from teams in the same division. As far as I know no limits on from an individual club otherwise (how else do you explain Udinese's Reserves playing at Vicorage Road last season!)

01 Jul 2013 11:47:02
We are looking to sign Eric dier again only this time in a permanent deal. You heard anything on this one ed? {Ed025's Note - no mate..

I'd be VERY happy with this signing, watched him develop from our reserves and then followed his progress at Sporting where he established a place in the pivot role.

He was a good player but moyes was wrong not to sign him

01 Jul 2013 07:45:12
No secret sources, just read on the Team Everton iphone app we have rejected 22m for Baines?

This would be nice if it were true. Rejecting £22m? I'd accept £25m, so maybe we'd get that.

That would be a bad negotiation tactic in UTDs part going from 12 mill to 22 mil!

I don't think so

The guardian are running an article suggesting that we'd accept £16m if it was offered. I'd certainly hope that this was nonsense, but I wouldn't want to bet any vital organs on it.

It says they will reject it

Bullsh*t, I have that app too and I've had nothing. Stop posting rubbish. Think my Kopite-radar has just gone of

Dave M

I would snap there cockney hands off if united bid 22m

01 Jul 2013 19:21:11
Dave M,
If you care to look closer you will see the post. 30th June, 23:26pm it was posted.

http://sportsnewsnow.co.uk/00249/everton-reject-22m-bid-for-leighton-baines/

Your kopite radar must be broken.

01 Jul 2013 20:01:04
i got the app and it says we did reject 22 million bid june 30 23:26

Thank you!

01 Jul 2013 00:24:08
Any truth in the rumours that we've approached Norwich about Snodgrass Ed? {Ed025's Note - i have read that, but i cant see it myself..

I think that you can take it as read that John Ruddy is the least likely player to be 'let go' by NCFC, and Snoddy is the next least likely.

Sorry folks, this rumour is a dead 'un.
OTBC!

01 Jul 2013 09:07:15
Happy days then!

01 Jul 2013 00:48:52
Heard from a strong source that Honda will wait for Everton to make contact before signing for Milian in the next 48 hours as he would prefer move to England over Italy.

Ste Bolton

That isn't right, judging by the delay, he is holding out for Milan, even some are reporting he has agreed personal terms with them, however, the issue is CSKA and AC can't agree a fee, with AC first having to sell someone, like Robinho or KPB, before they can get Honda, thus leaves it ajar for another side like Everton, to maybe try and swoop in.