Everton Rumours Archive May 11 2013

 

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11 May 2013 22:30:17
Believe me or don't whatever and this may be nothing but I have a family member who visits a lot of museums, art galleries etc. Anyway today he met Roberto Martinez's ghost writer for his autobiography at one of the galleries and he remains good friends with Roberto and he reckoned that he will definetly be Everton manager next season he said it was practically a done deal but it won't be announced till June at the earliest as there is still quite a bit to go through.
Joe EFC

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11 May 2013 18:10:12
Martinez is coming won't be announced till the end of the season for obvious reasons he will take McCarthy and mcmanaman with him

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It might happen - but I doubt if Martinez will have considered anything apart from Wigan Athletic so far this week - and I doubt if we could afford the transfer fees for those two players unless (as expected) we firstly get big money for one or more of our players.

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Hope so

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And to think mcmanaman is another player we released that's making a name at Wigan, will we be throwing money there way like for baines, will be worth it if he progresses like baines has :)

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I can see Martinez coming but I don't think that any players will follow as I think Dave Whealen will play hard ball with fees.

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This is a step back for EFC. FFS will someone with some clout on the board stand up and do our great club a service and appoint a manager befitting the football institution we all love. PS Wigan have just scored in FA cup final so I hope Martinez stays where he is. Give Neville a chance, Has the heart, has the experience of the club.

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I've changed my mind I want Martinez for the attractive football and he can bring mcmanaman! Who's decision was it to let him go?!

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I hope so. but would u say that if they got beat. probably not

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Thats only experience he has. get a grip mate we need a manager with experience. not someone who hasn't got all there badges.

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You would give Neville a chance, with no experience, but won't touch Martinez, who has now also managed a team to a cup win, erm! OK!

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Does anyone thing we'll have money this summer with new sky deal and fer money from jan

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Stupid statement! a manager befitting of the club and then you say Neville someone who is not proven at any level let alone the premier league. If you think that Neville would be a safer option than Martinez you truly are naïve!

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You want a manger befitting of Everton then champion Neville who has no managerial experience at all

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So glad Wigan won today. Underdogs

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Yes I do champion Neville, as a player he gave his all on the pitch, I believe he would apply the same enthusiasm as a manager, I believe it would prove to be an easier transition for all involved, players, staff BK etc. he may provide some much needed stability for us all at a time when we all seem to be clutching at straws of reassurance, he has been at the club for quite a long time, Moyes himself stated that Neville proved to be invaluable in dressing room. You challenge me about my proposal of Neville because of his inexperience and then you forward martinez because he has won a trophy, so did A. Mc Leish with Birmingham, so would you be happy with him? Thought not. We are looking to replace probably the best home grown manager of a generation, and remember he never won a thing. Didn`t stop Sir Alex recommending him for the biggest job in the country, and let`s face it compared to him we know naff all. To end I understand your criticism of my post but at the moment I just want the EFC ship to be well and truely steadied before we try and move in any direction. {Ed025's Note - good and fair post that mate, you make some good points, well done..

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I'd take rafa before rat boy

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Is it just me that thinks Phil Neville has the same persona as Gareth Southgate? He may well be respected as a player in terms of his professionalism. But I really don't think he will have the qualities of a manager.

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Stubbs and speedy even Ste round they know the club and the supporters I don't want omr gobsh-t coming in and wasting all the work that's been done in the last ten years everton is in the top six the new manager has got to do better

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Whats gary neville doing posting on here

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12 May 2013 21:04:25
martinez teams play good football, but like the game versus swansea the defence let him down again, we are a far better side than wigan, and I think he would do well here, just give him a chance if he gets the job. We gambled on moysey, and look what happened,

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11 May 2013 15:23:23
Keep hearing Benitez's name banded about the place. Lad working in the bookies by ours reckons it's on the cards. I personally can't stand the FSW. What does everyone else think? Yes or No for Benitez?

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Good manager and certainly avaialble and has his family already settled in the area but I can't see it TBH. If Moyes has recommeded to BK its bound to be one of his jock mates, probably Makay weir or lennon.

stewillow

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Yes, because of his managerial skills and reputation not personality or history.

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Like big fat rafa, its a big fat no from me

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It would show some guts from Kenwright. If you ignore the fact he has said some things about our club and the fact he managed that lot. His CV is relatively impressive. Won many trophies including leading, what can only be described as an average Liverpool side to the Champions League, which I am not going to lie, was impressive.

He has the CV, but it seems that he has burnt his bridges acting like a child. And to be honest, I don't fancy a manage that will create hostilities within the club. You only have to take a look at what happened at Villa with McLeish to see, you need the fan base supporting the manager, even Moyes admitted, the support he got from the supporters early on was a massive help.

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Just a little correction to one of the previous posts and that is Lennon is Northern Irish and is not a serious contender neither is David Weir.

I personally would like us to approach Laudrup as I think he would change his tune if an actual offer was made.

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People dismissing malky Mackay, why he's done a belter job at Cardiff. in 2 years cup final and then ran away with the championship. he carries himself well and seems like a manager u would want to play for. him or Martinez for me

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It's a big fat yes from me

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If he did become next everton manager and went on to become the most successful Everton manager ever, winning titles, cups, domestic and european, then I`ll tolerate the git.

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Sick of writing same stuff, won at the reds with team houllier built, then when he started bringing in players they went down hill hence he was gone! sacked from last 2 jobs, and can not hold down this job, will be free again!
Ok his CV shows trophies, bet he don't show the mess he leaves at clubs on it tho!
Defo no! Wouldn't even trust the waiter not to spill my order over me! {Ed025's Note - he also left the reds in serious financial trouble, by signing players on big wages and long term deals..

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Benitez going to PSG

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The thing is, he is thick skinned and probably could handle the rubbish. The thing is, he just had a load of that at Chelsea, so can't imagine him taking it as he may get some abuse from some fans. Also, imagine if we approached him and he turned us down!

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No no no I would love us to go for laudrup I no its end ov a era wi moyes going but its start ov a new one let's get the right man in and sign a few players in summer an kick on next season coyb

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11 May 2013 20:16:19
deffinatly don't want the spanish waiter as our manager, I think everton f. c our fantastic supporters. And mr kenwright deserve a lot better.

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Not many managers could win La Liga with Valencia, just saying Ed {Ed025's Note - you are entitled to your opinion AJ mate..

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Benitez great manager

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Sorry I just don't like the classless c**t! So its a no from me

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Got to laugh at some of the replies. don't want an inexperinced manager and don't want one of the most experienced and best managers in Europe either. Perhaps we should approach David Moyes as he seems to be the only one who fits the bill.
RickTee

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No chance dnt want raffa he is s*** dosent no what he is doing so noo for bog eye

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12 May 2013 13:10:53
people must have very short memories if they want that piece of red garbage to manage everton. Do you not remember him saying everton are a small club. I say no way!

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Honestly speaking I don't like the man, but he is by far the most qualified manager out there that's available. I would tale him over everybody else apart from Laudrup.

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11 May 2013 13:51:12
Eds, if Chelsea come 5th in the league and win the Europa Cup, does that open that place in the Europa league next season for whoever comes in 6th? {Ed025's Note - no mate..

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Thanks, that's a shame. I am still hopeful that Tottenham will have a shocker and we will do it on goal difference but its a long shot as recon Stoke will be going for the draw tomorrow to guarantee saftey.

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You could bet that if it was Liverpool finishing sixth in that scenario, they'd get UEFA to change the rules like they did with the CL back in 2005. Bitter - moi?

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Ed's can we not have a link to the official rules? This same question has been asked a thousand times and I'm sure you guys are as sick of answering it as most of us are of reading it

Pod {Ed025's Note - they would still ask pod..

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It's academic now, as Chelsea's goal difference is vastly superior to Tottenham's who can now only finish on level points with them. Chelsea will therefore finish in the top four and qualify for the UEFA Champions League. As such, even if Chelsea also win the UEFA Europa League, only the club finishing fifth will get England's other place (alongside Swansea and Wigan). There'd be no extra place.

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Fa cup carling cup winners and 5th in the table qualify. Unfortunately Chelsea will finish in the top4

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Must correct ed25. If Chelsea finish 5th and win the Europa then 6th WOULD qualify however that looks very unlikely. Dave {Ed025's Note - i must be ill informed then dave..cheers..

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I had a look at the official proceedings the other day and that was the only scenario that suited everton but as I say it looks highly unlikely now, either that or the fair play route and that is even more inlikely. Dave

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11 May 2013 20:56:08
no he's right if Chelsea do finish five and win the Europa league we do get there place

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11 May 2013 13:31:42
Looks like it's Big Mick McCarthy for Everton.
Andy The Chef.

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Just what we need - a manager that can smell round corners!

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Was you listening to snods this afternoon then andy?

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Yes, I heard Ian Snodin mention it on Radio City

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Please god no, I'd sooner have Mike Walker back

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11 May 2013 10:10:33
Looks Mancini is going to be out. Would he be interested?! Would we be? {Ed002's Note - Not going to happen.}

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Henry Mancini (more than Roberto) - his lyrics from "Moon River" are appropriate for an Everton manager: "Oh, dream maker, you heart breaker,
wherever you're going I'm going your way. "

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11 May 2013 09:34:04
Hi ed. do u think our next manager will come from lennon martinez and mckay. {Ed002's Note - See previous answers.}

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Those three sound like the lineup of a Beatles tribute band! Now, if only one of the real Beatles - Paul McCartney - was inclined to put a few quid our way ;-)

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10 May 2013 23:27:01
Heard all kinds of rumours last few days, Lennon and Mackay seem to be the strongest linked. I personally would like Pereira or Benitez.

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Benitez? Are you fookin kidding me? No self respecting blue would have this man down as their next manager. Remember the small club jibe? Remember how he ruined Inter? Remember he used to manage them lot over the park? Give your head a wobble lad
spudv

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Pereria out the three, benetiz shouldn't even be mentioned, and il pass on lennon because he's awful

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Listen spudv, don't you want success? Or do you still live in the past? Get a grip and see the benefit of appointing him. He's done well at Chelsea with the lack of support and is a trophy winning manager.

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Would prefer Mourinho myself, but since that's never going to happen. I'd like to see Pereria or Lucien Favre from Borussia m'gladbach

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A trained monkey can win a cup at Chelsea, the squad is quality, Benitez is a no no

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TM. I hate to say it I agree with you. all us everton players say no player or manager is bigger than the club. well doesn't it work both ways. Let me say this about Benitez. I met the fella (before his small club jibe) and he came across as a nice bloke. additionally I have lived in various non English speaking countries and travelled a lot. and trust me its easy to say things incorrectly in any language never mind your native tongue. so the media used his little jibe to make news and stir things. he may have been referring to efc success compared to RS and Man Utd. in any case if Benitez was given a chance I d give him benefit of the doubt. remember all the ex liverpool players that became Everton players? I think we need to be thinking about best man for the job not who he managed previously. personally I just want a mananger that knows what he is doing. is Lennon that man doubt it. Martinez (not convinced yet). laudrup no chance. di Matteo would be good. Zola I'd give a whirl to. and there are lots of other European contenders mentioned by more astute blue noses than me. All I have to say is I hope Bk gets an inspiring manger and soon. don't wanna wait till last game of season. we need to unveil someone who will inspire the big guns to stay and attract the highest calibre of new blood. and move the team in the direction dm has so far {Ed025's Note - good post that mate, im not a benitez fan myself, but you do make some good points..

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More important is the amount of unused players he purchased at Liverpool that the next managers were left with.

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Periera yes benitez mmmm let me think how about. NO PK BLUE

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11 May 2013 09:33:57
@ spudv,
i know where it is coming from, that blue heart that is saying it but you must get to reality

you would be lucky to have benitez.

benitez for all his controversies is a trophy winning manager

1 spanish leagues with velencia,
2 UEFA with liverpool. + FA cup & 2008 runner ups
3 supercup with inter
4 on his way to EUROPA TITAL with chelsea.

that's a hell of a CV. he is a type of manger who needs time as he completely rebuilds the style and squad. that inter didn't gave him. but such things happen.
as a liverpool guy I don't want him in your dugout seriously but if he does, he as every right to choose.

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11 May 2013 10:03:26
Benitez must have ability to win the Champions League with one of the worst teams ever.
In fairness he and his wife are very popular on the Wirral they send their children to ordinary schools and not private they are very much involved in community parish events etc
I don't hold any bitterness towards him things always get said around derby time the poor man has taken plenty of stick from blues. If you can't take it don't give it!
I've more time for reds who give me a bit of humour and banter than those blues who snarl at the slightest comment.

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I never thought I'd say this but I'd be willing to give Benitez a chance. I bet Moyes has said the odd derogatory comment about Utd in the past. Did we slate former reds that crossed the park? The likes of Beardsley, Ablett, Sheedy? No. They got our full backing. Get a grip guys. I'd say with Rafa at the helm, we'd have a far more relaistic chance of success than Moyes could ever offer us. BlueTone

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Benitez's 'small club' jibe was no different than Moyes 'Peoples Club' comment implying that no one in Liverpool supported the reds. It was designed to wind us up as much as Moyes comment wound them up. I've met Benitez and his family and they are lovely people. And he's a winner who would be capable of attracting big name players to the club. That said it'll never happen so I don't know why people are getting so hot under the collar about it.

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11 May 2013 12:25:39
@ Toffeemike & the well-travelled poster above (and @ Ed if you are seriously considering Benitez now :P): Benitez is a definite no from me - not because he used to manage Liverpool, not because of the 'small club' jibe, but because he is a massively overrated manager who ruins clubs by the time he is finished. Since I know he likes them, I will try and include as many FACTS as I can.

He's a man who on MOTD/Final Score (I can't remember which) when talking about the job Moyes had done here on a shoestring, said with a straight face that a net spend of £20m every year was 'not a lot' while he was at Liverpool. Then take Inter - treble winners under Mourinho, and Benitez insists he needs financial backing to get anywhere with the squad at his disposal (the same squad as Mourinho but about 2-3 months older). Now look at the fortunes of Valencia, Liverpool and Inter post-Benitez; all of them were 'in a stage of transition' after he left - which basically means he did not plan a year into the future. Can our club afford a manager with that sort of mentality?

Now onto why he is a 'trophy winning' manager; he wins cups, not leagues (with the exception of Valencia who were already challenging and doing well in Europe when he got there and I believe 5 of the 20 most expensive Valencia signings ever came during his reign). The reason he wins cups is because he plays 6 at the back at all times. Flat back 4 and 2 holding midfielders in front of them hardly screams ambitious flowing football and is the reason for so many clean sheets (try getting the ball in a little net when there are permanently 7 people in front of you!), as long as you have a reasonable finisher and at least one player who can service him (Gerrard/Torres, Sneijder/Milito, Aimar/Mista), generally one of the two wingers was allowed to venture forwards every now and again too. Would a team set up to invite pressure and counter with only 2-3 players only work for us right now? With a good team it will win a lot of games (not usually enough to win a league, but works well in cup games where teams tend to attack more because they know they only have 90 minutes to progress compared to a whole season). I also tend to find this style of play too boring to watch (don't get me wrong, some of the players can make spectacular goals), but the style of play is predictable and unadventurous.

These are my reasons on a no for Benitez. My choice would be Slaven Bilic as he knows us and I think his management style would suit us, and I'd love to see the likes of Mancini get in a confrontation with him (also he's in a rock band)!

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I would rather have Rafa than Lennon!
and what's wrong with only winning cups as opposed to league titles? That would be an improvement on anything that we have won in the last 18 years!
Benitez did say that he was coming back to Liverpool but not specifically that he was coming back to THAT football club!

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I think its unfair for people to say that people don't want benitez cause he was a kopite. I'd have hodgson! The fact that he was their manager doesn't matter to me. What matters is that he took over a succesfull houlier team, yes won cl which to be fair was massive, couldn't have don tv it without gerrard diving mind haha.

Anyway liverpool went from a cl winning club to a club that struggle to finish to 8. He wasted so much money! Saying 'net spend' is irrelevant. Moyes bought koldrup for 5 mil. that's a massive waste of money regardless of whether its net spend or not!

Massive decision for the board. Whoever they pick i'll back the man but if they pick someone like round, neville, martinez, big sam, then I can see a lot of fans turning aginst them

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11 May 2013 15:16:13
@toffee Mike,
I don't live in the past lad but employing him as our next manager is beyond belief. Do I want success? Obviously, but I wouldn't sell my soul to the devil just to get it! Benitez is a no go, I can't believe any blues would make a claim for him. For a start, he's red through and through and, for me, that rules him out. His teams are not exciting to watch, it took him less than a year to take a champion's league winning team to a top ten finish in their domestic league. He spent fortunes to get Valencia to the top in Spain, almost crippling the club in the process. His small club statement was not in jest, it was said in malice after his team failed to beat us. He is not the man to lead EFC
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Just to clarify - net spend is the total spend on transfers (transfers in vs transfers out), and while kroldrup ended up a waste of money, our net spend over the years has been pretty lean meaning they are affordable (well relatively) mistakes

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