Everton Banter Archive September 09 2012

09 Sep 2012 21:56:42
Surprise Surprise. One boring International weekend, Jelavic, Baines and now Fellaini all being talked about in the media. They have nothing better to do. I take no notice of them and their hot air. Fellaini  less than a month ago, helped get his friend Kevin Mirallas to the club. The 3 players in question would most likely command a combined transfer fee of at least £70m. I repeat, that's £70m for 3 of our players. If we ever lose them, we move on. We buy again, only this time, we have big big money at our disposal. Then we can buy 4,5,6 quality players for honest transfer fees. Our standard line is we are prepared to sell, but very expensive to buy off. This will never change, so long as our players are on long term contracts, we have no fears. The fees will keep going up for our players but given our quality scouting network we will deal at around the £3-10m on players coming in. enjoy them whilst they are here, and then look forward to watching their replacements flourish when they are gone for their inflated transfer fees. A few interesting deals happened this summer:

Rasmus Elm to CSKA £6m...Miguel Veloso to D Kiev £8m
Niko Kranjaer to D Kiev £6.5...Kim Kallstrom to Spartak £3m
Milan Badelj to Hamburg £4m...Greg V D Wiel to PSG £6m
Bas Dost to W Bremen £8m...Eljero Elia to W Bremen £5.5m
Frederico Balzaretti to Roma £4.5m...Borja Valero to Fiorentina £7m
Michael Krohn Delji to Celta £1m...Fernando Gago to Valencia £3.5mj
Sergio Canales to Valenica £7m...Kevin Mirallas to Everton for £5.5m??

The point is, we could afford at least 4 of this kind of player with the sort of money we are talking for say, Fellaini. Not necessarily the players mentioned above, but that's the sort of list the manager could work on. But right now, our players are OUR players. we have started well. We should never be getting down, things are good right now and whatever happens, Moyes calls the shots and he will deal with it. We should just make sure we create an epic atmosphere for Newcastle and ensure nothing said these last few days affects how we greet a certain talked about player when he steps on that pitch. Big match, under lights, We can have 9 points on the board after 4 games. 

Vincent {Ed025's Note - Cracking post that vinny...

Really good post there mate. Realistic, good knowledge and def my thoughts too

COYB
Toffee ace

Great post!!

aflm78

Spot on mate Vincent. Someone speaking sense! Players come and go it's the nature of the game, enjoy them whilst there here and thank them when there gone for being part of our great club.

MikeTheBlue

Spot on Vincent mate (I was meant to write) too many sunday night beers last night!

MikeTheBlue

09 Sep 2012 21:39:58
direct from fellaini fb page:

"Guys,

I was very surpised to read in some newspapers that I will leave Everton very soon and perhaps next January.
Let me remind you that I am very happy in Liverpool and our start of the championship was good. Kevin Mirallas and some other good players joined us to make a better squad in order to realize a good championship in the line of the end of the last one.
So with Everton, I am ready to play all the season and to reach our goals of this season. However, my only concern for the moment is of course our (Red Devils) Tuesday's game against Croatia.
Whether you're in Belgium or England, thank you from my heart for your support …

Marouane"

CP

I'm not saying for a minute that I believe the garbage in the papers but believe me the page is a tribute to him its not actually him speaking,anyway enough of this exit talk lets just get behind the lads next Monday and lets get another 3 points.
Joe EFC {Ed025's Note - Amen to that joe..

09 Sep 2012 20:56:31
I've been reading some posts and replies form other people and it's made me think. Before I start, I'm going to say a little and I will say more in time to come when we get more info. I'll judge Felli when we know the facts.

Basically, one person said when he (Felli) is in Belgium his dad gets his way in terms of what his son says, but when he's here it's life as normal. Last time he linked up with his country for an international he said that if a 'big club' comes in for him he will go. Now if Felli said that then he'd of forced a move because we obviously wasn't, and by the latest interview sill aren't, a 'big club'.

Now there's only one way to go from here - wait! Moyes will know about this interview and will subsequently do two things. 1) talk to Felli and if it's true he will take action, like he did in the past Jo and Drenthe, to name a few. Those were different issues but if he doesn't want to play for us, Moyes won't be treat like a mug. And 2) Moyes will find out if it's BS and that will be the end of it.

I don't know what else to say apart from wait 'til you know more facts before you judge either party, unless you know what goes on behind the scenes.

And I don't know if I'm right or not Ed, but, depending on what is written into his contract, wouldn't it be a breach of contract for Felli to say something like that as, by law (well, contract laws), he is contracted to us for now?

Keith EFC.

Spot on Keith, lets wait to hear if he did say those things before we lambast the guy

Degsycool

09 Sep 2012 19:34:04
Fellow blues just ignore this Felliani tripe doing the rounds, the press/ssn have nothing else to report so manipulate things to get reactions, if Felli wanted a move he would have made waves two months ago. If this is true then we will get a great season out of him and sell for top dollar and move on

Degsycool

09 Sep 2012 19:05:35
Whatever the facts about the "this is my last season" Fellaini comments, I've no doubt that he signed the new contract with the understanding that DM/BK would let him leave for a Champions League club if Everton don't qualify themselves. In return, a long contract would mean a big fee when he leaves, as he wouldn't be near the end of said contract. Even the most successful clubs have their top players leave, so why should we be any different. If Ross Barkley progresses and we had £30 million plus for Fellaini would that be so bad in the great scheme of things?
Cowpat Sid

09 Sep 2012 18:41:18
I assume he means if we dont qualify for CL _Wella

09 Sep 2012 18:13:32
I'm not going to comment on this Felli situation. Mainly because this could be mis-translation, etc. And I don't want to say anything on either side until we get more info.

Anyway Ed, say it is true and we decide to cash in on him either in January or next summer, what would be the price you'd estimate we would get? I mean all things considered, we bought him for £15m and he's a far better player now, so you'd be estimating more than £15m-£20m, but then you take into consideration he still has 4+ years left, so surely that must bung on a fair amount to.

Keith EFC. {Ed025's Note - I would think in the 25- 30m bracket keith..

09 Sep 2012 17:09:13
09 Sep 2012 14:01:52
"I begin now to my fifth season at Everton," Fellaini told Belgian newspaper Het Nieuwsblad. "This will be one of my last. I've seen everything. In January or at the end of the season I would look for another club or league."

No doubt it we will be fobbed off as a 'lost in translation' case but these rumours don't go away. If Felli does go we need to get the best possible price. We have seen what a good job Moyes can do with a bit of cash.

Everton have to sell our better players to make signings, most clubs are the same. There are very few cubs in Europe who can spend the kind of money that we need to get to the next level.

Nostrawigus

09 Sep 2012 16:33:00
Hey just read the Fellani quotes! What's your take on it? I honestly can't see him saying that! Must of been Mis-quoted! Moyes will rip him a new one if he said anything like that and he will know that! {Ed025's Note - A lot of things get lost in translation?.

09 Sep 2012 16:15:29
If I was moyes and felli has said that I'd let him rot in reserves we have made him a superstar from a nobody! {Ed025's Note - I think we are all jumping the gun a bit..

09 Sep 2012 14:00:17
if we appeal against fifa concerning ofoe and still dont get him do you think we will be in for him either on loan or to buy in january ed??

frank speke {Ed025's Note - Very much so frank..

09 Sep 2012 15:16:44
What have journalists got with Everton? Fellaini, Baines and Jelavic all being linked with clubs the past 3 days, do they ever leave us alone?

ToffeeMike

Ill tell you what it is,its the fact were not so media friendly as our rs neighbours who will do anything to keep there noses in the media ffs they even done a weeks story in the red echo about a scabby cat that ran onto the pitch.they are priceless

09 Sep 2012 10:59:26
Here we go again. According to The People "Arsenal could rekindle an interest in Everton left-back Leighton Baines during the January transfer window."

Do they ever stop? I suppose the papers will soon start with the Caught Offside rumour about Jelavic suggesting that "a £20m double raid will be made by Arsenal for Everton pair Leighton Baines and Croatian striker Nikica Jelavic."

Anyway, let's make this the last post about Baines for now.

Ed, do you know how long Bainesy has left on his contract?

Keith EFC. {Ed001's Note - I believe it expires in 2015.}

Lazy journalism yet again, there is now way we would let Jelavic and Baines go

09 Sep 2012 12:04:22
Seen an interview with Felliani in belgium, saying that this will be one of Joan last season's an he will be looking to leave in January or the end of the season. It's from but it's a direct quote. Absolutely gutted but let's just get big cash for him.

Cropper

Koppites out in force Ed

09 Sep 2012 11:49:51
I like our squad this season we have a number of options and if everyone stays fit we can change it around and keep players fit

Howard

Hibbert Jagielka Distin Baines

Naismith Gibson Osman Pienaar

Fellaini
Jelavic

Keeping Howard, Jagielka Gibson, Fellaini and Jelavic who are the central core of the side in the starting line up and making 6 changes it's still a good side.

Howard

Neville Heitinga Jagielka Oviedo

Coleman Gibson Fellaini Gueye

Mirallas
Jelavic

09 Sep 2012 14:31:50
According to tinternet and SSN Fellaini has told a Belgian newspaper this is likely to be his last season at EFC. Hope this is just misquoted or lost in translation. Seems odd time to speak out like this if true. Jack Carter