Everton Banter Archive October 09 2018

 

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09 Oct 2018 22:45:00
Just logged on. wow I have missed some fun tonight on here. Ed's and posters at each others throats! Get some perspective guys. I thought I was the miserable angry one! It's football and its emotional but to the extent of bursting blood vessels!

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09 Oct 2018 23:58:01
Best to keep out of it degsyp. The Ed's especially Ed02 are great at giving us information and I for one am very grateful, best leave it at that.

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10 Oct 2018 07:37:32
So am I BluMike, we only read some of what was said.

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10 Oct 2018 07:46:44
Yes BlueMike1. I was just trying to say that sometimes we all get a little heated and I for one have done it in the past but yes. without the Ed's this site does not exist. but likewise, without the posters. this site does not exist. I think it is deep breath time and leave it for now. Respect to all!

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10 Oct 2018 19:48:19
You've got to remember the Eds have the last say and can kick you off the site.

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10 Oct 2018 20:00:40
I used to check out both the rumor and banter pages for this forum quite a lot. Over the past few months though I find that I sadly visit and comment less and less. My impression is that views have gotten a little extreme and the overall mood ranges anywhere between deludedly optimistic to incredibly toxic. I’m not begrudging anyone their views of course but it just seems there has to be some kind of middle ground. We’re all supporters of the same club and while there is no right or wrong way to do that there at least has to be a way of engaging with a view that differs from your own and an ability to process that and respond to it in a grown up way. Hopefully that comes back at some stage.

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10 Oct 2018 21:04:25
Hey. Instead of rumour and banter can't we rename them optimistic and pessimistic?
That way we can dip in and out depending on our mood.
The other posts page can be a cooling off page for anyone who needs a breather, or is getting too optimistic/ pessimistic.

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09 Oct 2018 09:36:14
this obsession some of our fans have with liverpool does my head in, i like a bit of banter every now and then with the reds in work but some people take it to extremes, focus on everton lads and let the reds see to themselves, trust me you will be happier people.
NSNO sould be for fans too, let's show wer great fans and not classless persons who are always banging on about other teams and what there doing. We are everton!

we finally playing good football and we still have people who would rather talk about liverpool and city. why not talk about how frightening our front 4 are or how much keane has improved?

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10 Oct 2018 09:37:54
Could not agree more with your opening line. For some reason half of our fans seem more concerned with being anti-Liverpool than pro-Everton. Every time Everton is criticised they respond by attacking Liverpool (case in point the "stepping stone" debate below) , rather than accept / challenge the criticism of Everton.

Personally it doesn't bother me one bit what Liverpool do. If they play the best football and are the best team in the league this season and win it - well done them, but it doesn't affect Everton at all. The only thing that would bother me about that is my red mates not shutting up about it!

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09 Oct 2018 07:38:14
prople need to calm down, yes wer a stepping stone club that's a fact, but if these players want these big moves to top clubs they have to perform to a very high standard for us.
I can live with that as long as when they are sold the money is reinvested into replacements.
People need to slow down kicking off with the eds for simply stating facts.

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09 Oct 2018 09:34:44
We all know that most players want to play for the best clubs and win trophies. Not a problem with players saying what richarlison has. It shows ambition and drive (hazard just said similar and he not getting pilloried)
I am no way deluded to think we are a big club (in history yes but not currently) so if a player thinks they should more to a bigger club then fine as this shows they are playing well for us and must mean we are getting better. We must also be recompensed appropriately which can then be used to find replacements. The circle then continues.
For over 120 years players have come and gone. Some have been good (kanchelskis, lineker, heath) , some have been absolutely shocking (madar, hottinger, kroldrup) and some have become forever woven into the fabric of our great club (Reid, sharp, Cahill, ferguson) .
The one thing that remains is the club. No player is bigger than the club and we will have ups and downs but we must support the club, regardless of who wears the shirt. Unfortunately at present we have certain 'fans' on here who just don't seem happy regardless if we win, lose or draw. Wonder if they would even be happy if we won every game and every trophy?
Plus we have to respect the eds knowledge and opinion (may not always agree with them) as they do a great job on this site. No point going on and on over a topic as it then becomes personal.

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09 Oct 2018 11:28:34
What I am asking for and hopefully we can do as a club is have a decent run of say 3 years with say the current squad ( the the odd addition ) and maybe push for top 4 / silverware.

The past couple of managers have bought large numbers of players at the start of the year and we have struggled for a settled line up - yes players are going to come and go as this is the nature of the beast but we are currently in the second league of the actual league ( top 6 / mid table / the rest ) and until we have a decent run with the same players we are going nowhere.

Most players want to play for the madrids / barcelonas etc but hopefully the likes of Richarlson / bernard etc stay for as long as possible.

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09 Oct 2018 12:23:31
I agree a period of stability would be good but I think you should be looking at 2,3 or even 4 additions each season goodison. It seems to be what every side try to do, from the top teams to sides looking to avoid relegation. I think the managers look at strengthening the side and creating fresh challenges within the squad. That's not to say it always works

The last couple of seasons we have brought in too many especially the season before last when they unbalanced the squad and some turned out to be not totally suited to the Premiership. This close season 6 (plus the young goalkeeper) and, fingers crossed, they are looking to be quality signings that are improving the side but it is a sign of our weaknesses that we had to bring in so many. Great respect though for Brands and the rest of the management for getting them and Silva seems to be getting the best out of them
If Gomez works out I don't think he will want to leave, he sounds like he is looking for a home and I hope he finds it with us. Zouma is a different problem as if he continues to play like he is doing there is a danger that Chelsea will want him back, even if it is just to sell on at a profit. Richarlison, Digne and Bernard, I don't see them moving after just a year. I know it's not worth much these days but we have them on long contracts so, even if they do play out of their skins and want to leave we would get a sizeable premium on any sale.

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09 Oct 2018 12:31:56
I should have also included Mina with Richarlison, Digne and Bernard. I think his buyback clause doesn't kick in for a couple of seasons so I don't see him leaving as long as he finds a place in the side and plays well.

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09 Oct 2018 15:01:54
Goodison i like what your saying mate but unfortunately we are not there yet and honestly may never get to a point were we have star players for more than 2 seasons. That does not mean we can not be successful, look at the likes of porto and to a lesser extent dortmund, they sell there star players quite regularly but continue to be successful, i think that is why brands was bought to the club so when our stars do leave he already has a replacement "next star" lined up.

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Review Of The Day 9th October 2018

09 Oct 2018 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 9th October 2018

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