Everton Banter Archive May 09 2013

09 May 2013 23:43:04
just a thought, Roberto di matteo has been overlooked, not a bad shout considering he is a free agent, personally like to see V�tor Pereira, change things up a little

I've been saying di matteo for months

09 May 2013 22:54:42
Laudrup as the new manager will cost Everton 10 million. Whoever the new manager is they will have 35 million plus to spend Source. The daily reflective glass

09 May 2013 22:52:55
Of all the strikers we've had during the DM era, plenty have started well and then had loss of form, or injuries, or just wanted to move on.
I reckon that Kevin Campbell, who joined before DM but stayed for a few years with him, was a top player for us. Can anyone think of another striker (apart from Rooney) that was as effective a striker for us as Super Kevin? Without his goals, we'd have been relegated in the Walter Smith era IMHO.

09 May 2013 22:37:26
that Everton fc are getting plenty of offers of managers looking for the job not just in britain but from Europe aswell. The reporter then went on to say any manager coming in will have to realise Everton is a massive club and that it is not a turn around the club and fans want it is to be up there challenging for Europe this is a big job. Stef the blue

09 May 2013 22:32:20
It looks like its between Martinez who I
Would not mind as he plays attacking
Football and with better players at his
Disposal would have a impact on our
Side. or big dunc many people in the
City are throwing his name about on the plus side knows the club and all
The players and commands instant
Respect. on the down side has no
Experience in management and could
Easily go tits up let's hope bk makes
The right choice and makes it soon

Martinez will jump at the opportunity to manage Everton a massive club don't mind that clown whelan. Martinez getting to manage a club playing at home in front of 40 thousand fans he will relish in it Wigan scrape 10 thousand and there fighting for there life and can't even be bothered to support there team hope we approach Martinez I think he will do a good job. Stef the blue

09 May 2013 21:44:43
Planned, this whole situation was decided years ago. Moyes is a disgrace to the name of our GREAT CLUB, the season has been a waste for the ends of Mr Moyes who leaves us trophyless for the last 18 years, one of the longest periods in our history, with some of the worst cup results in our history and some of the most negative football in our history.

Will stability and finishing 7th be remembered in 20 years NOOOOOOOOOOOO!

AMOKACHI BLUE

Come on - don't sit on the fence - what do you really think?
;-)

09 May 2013 21:38:46
Here's a mind-boggling thought.
What if Everton had qualified for the Champions League and, before DM had signed a new contract with us, ManUtd had approached him to replace SAF? What about, instead, if it was the Europa League that Everton had qualified for?
How many of you think that DM would have turned down ManUtd and stayed at Everton? {Ed025's Note - not me jonesy..

Leaving having secured us champs league qualification would have made more sense. He would have left something behind. Instead he walks having actually achieved very little.

09 may 2013 21:02:27
i would like to lay claim to the managerial vacancy that will appear at the end of the season. i have won the quadruple with wolves on the ever-so popular football manger 2013 and that sort of thing doesn't go unnoticed.

jokes aside, i would like to thank moyes for all that he has done for us. he is a good manager, though not a great one as i always felt like we never quite achieved what we could and should have. i wish him well at utd.

as for our new manager, i am eager as well as nervous as to who we will sign. the names of lennon, hughes, redknapp and o'neil make me shiver with disgust as i cannot believe we would be linked with such poor managers. i wouldn't mind martinez as he likes to player a 3 at the back + wing backs which i think suits everton well, especially with coleman and baines. the likes of laudrup would be lovely, but it looks like it would be a big ask to bring him to goodison. bielsa and periera are other names i'm interested in but i guess all we can do is wait (and pray) that the board may finally get their thumbs out their backsides and listen to fans.

anyways, back to reality. 3 points at the weekend will see us above the reds and will round off a somewhat good yet disappointing season.

the end of an era has come, but i hope the new one will provide some success and happiness for us blue. it's the least we deserve, right? {Ed025's note - dead right dan..

09 May 2013 20:32:16
Keith Hill of Rochdale (my home town)

Shoe string budget - Check
Gets the best out of players - Check
Good in the transfer market - Check
Wont cost much - Check
Got Rochdale promoted (the first manager ever) - Check

a more realistic thought though?.

Why do people say we need Experience?

wenger is experienced but won f all in 8 yrs,

I say forget all the "Top managers" touted and try a lower league manager that will cost f all and be able to work our financials better. While getting the best out of the players!

Think you may need a doctor mate. It's about gravitas in the premier league. You get good players because they want to play for a respected manager. Keith Hill was obviously a joke suggestion, but the theory is flawed. Lower league managers can attract jack at the highest level. Moyes has built our team having delved into the championship, found some gems, earned a rep, then sourced some foreign talent. It took him 11 years. We need to move on. We need a man who can bring some of that exciting foreign talent out there here, now. We already got some good home grown kids in at the club.

09 May 2013 20:25:29
What have some Everton fans got against Neil Lennon?

Erm. we want someone who looks like they can take the club forward, he doesnt

He's not good enough

The fact that he is useless, thinks winning one of the worst leagues in the world is some sort of epic achievement, is even angrier than the trophyless one and the fact that he has got green teeth.

Mike

That they think most managers in the world could manage Celtic to the SPL title

As a celtic fan originally from johnstone (scotland). I have lived down here 20odd years and followed the toffees, watching celtic games from down here and the odd celtic game every year, Neil Lennon has been found out to be tactacily nieve against lesser teams in spl, so what chance against stronger teams in English prem, even the great sir Alex after winning everything in scotland came own here and won nothing for 4years and was 1game of the sack. Gujo. toffeebhoy

Despite the fact he's managing one of the worlds biggest clubs, guided them to the last 16 of the champions league with less money than Everton.

Now compare that with Moyes who started at Preston, Has never won a trophy and has never Guided Everton into the Champions League group stages let alone the last 16.

Worlds biggest clubs? In your eyes pal. Consider that Lennon has only ever managed in a league with only one team in it. Less money than Everton? agreed, but Lennon manages by far and away the richest team in Scotland, hence how he got into the champs league in the first place. And last 16? yeah, not bad. but then again his players only have to raise their game 6 times a season, the proper teams/leagues have to raise theirs 50+, there, hope that's explained why the bulk of us think he's crap. And I won't even start with his disciplinary/ chip on his shoulder problems

Dont want him near everton just not good enough ie walter smith just about survived that 1 belfast toffee

Yeah one of the worlds biggest clubs!

Go anywhere in the world and celtic is known world wide Everton? Only thing I can think of is a very average English team that go no where & cause the odd upset. Celtic play a diddy league we know that, hence the reason we want into EPL but teams like Everton won't have it, would grow bigger than team in 18 months!

As a celtic fan Lennon is 7 out of 10 signings are good has a eye of talent but IMO its to early for him. A championship side first to bed him in

If you take away TV money, which is slowly killing the game, you'll struggle to find more than a handful of clubs who can match celtic. They have a huge worldwide fanbase. They have no debt and actually make profit on players. Their competitive record against English opposition is
P 18 W 9 D 3 L 6. Not bad as it's in Europe against your top clubs. Against Liverpool it's P 6 W 3 D 2 L 1.
The Scottish league is what it is, a small country league, but Celtic are one of the best run clubs in the world. On an even peg with everton, they would have a bigger ground, more fans and you would struggle. Lennon has done a great job there under more pressure than any English manager would understand and we all hope he stays.

09 May 2013 20:21:28
Michael Laudrup has many of our fans wanting him to be Everton manager. He's certainly done a very good job - and won a trophy - this season. However, it's his first season managing in the Premier League and next season he'll have to cope with the effect of UEFA Europa League fixtures (Thursdays). Let's see if Swansea do a Newcastle. Also, because of his good work this year, he was being touted for the big European club manager positions, but chose to stay at Swansea at least for next season. Just imagine if he could be prised away from Swansea and was (comparatively) successful at Everton for a year or two - wouldn't he be even more likely to be courted by the massive European clubs (especially those he actually played for)? Everton would then be back to square one - needing to bring in yet another new manager to maintain progress.
Furthermore, IMHO until we have the finances to deliver regular Champions League football, we'll not compete - at any level (stadium, players, income, trophies, etc. ) - with the European and domestic "super clubs". I've no doubt that we will get a decent enough manager - but surely it's finance that's the most critical issue for Everton football club. {Ed025's Note - then BK should put all his money on darren ferguson to be our next manager, at 300-1....then sack him after 3 days...problem solved..

Ed025: a cunning plan - are you Baldrick in disguise? {Ed025's Note - aye sir

Ed025: as Baldrick, you'll obviously want a turnip for manager, so bring on Graham Taylor! {Ed025's Note - love it jonesy..

09 May 2013 20:20:07
Now is the time for Everton to show ambition. Jose mourinho is available in summer. Felliani sold extra sky money and tight fisted directors give some cash also. I reckon he would join if he had a transfer budget. If not then vitor periera

This is a joke right?

09 May 2013 20:00:02
Would love us to go for laudrup. Perfect replacement in my eyes.

09 May 2013 19:56:32
Mark Hughes (actually his full name is Leslie Mark Hughes - how many of you knew that) is being suggested as a possible replacement for DM, but judging by the posters on this website he wouldn't be a popular choice amongst Evertonians. Now I accept that the posters on this website are only a fraction of Everton's overall support, but Hughes's track record in club management has several issues that cannot be overlooked. At Blackburn Rovers, the team was very physical (even dirty); he walked out of Fulham in under a year; he had just two wins in eleven league games immediately before ManCity sacked him; and he went twelve games without victory at the start of his time with QPR - eventually being sacked. Add to that his comments about ManCity being a bigger club when they went for Lescott and really disrupted Everton's start to the season. All in all, I just don't see him as the sort of manager we need to take our club forward. {Ed025's Note - count me in jonesy..

09 May 2013 19:47:55
David Moyes has just been given the biggest job in world football. It is clear that he is highly rated by the hierarchy at United as they have given him a six year contract. He has done a fantastic job at Everton under severe financial constraints. We should wish him all the best and we will now see how good he really is when he's got some money to spend and is expected to win trophies every season. I also think Moyes might struggle to attract top players to Old Trafford because globally he's not a well known name.

Bill Kenwright has a massive decision to make now. If Moyes is as good as many people think then we could find ourselves in trouble next season, especially if players leave and we mess about getting in a new manager and then leave it until August 31st to get players in.

Phil Neville as manager for me. Big risk maybe, but he may well be a top manager in the making. If it isn't Neville then I won't be surprised to see him turning up as a coach at United.

I'd agree with that, the man is a winner, knows the game inside out and give us 100% all the time. Maybe it is a gamble but I would rather take a punt on Captain Phil than appoint some muppet like O'Neil, Lennon or Hughes.

Phil Neville has clearly said he wants to continue playing, so would he select himself for the first team if he was manager a Everton?
I think he'd be more likely to become a player-manager/coach at a lower-tier club. that's unless another Premier League or a Championship club offered him a playing contract for a year or two. Either way - and for all his self-evident limitations as an ageing player - he has been a magnificent servant for Everton football club IMHO. If those more technically gifted younger players had just some of his attitude as a professional sportsman, then they'd surely be the better for it.

09 May 2013 19:40:13
A TV pundit made what I thought was a good point about Martin O'Neill. The pundit said that John Robertson chose to retire and hadn't joined O'Neill at Sunderland and without him in the back room staff there was a vital component missing. At previous clubs, O'Neill had Robertson to bring a sense of humour and an alternative point of view to situations as and when required. On that basis - without one of his favourite lieutenants - I can't see O'Neill being successful at another club. For that reason alone, let alone anything else, O'Neill is not the man for Everton IMHO. Besides, with apologies for being ageist, O'Neill is in his early 60s and we probably need a younger manager to take us forward for at least five, if not ten, years. {Ed025's Note - i thought it was just because he is a s*** manager jonesy, ...well you learn something new every day.. :)

Ed025: bit harsh that. After all, O'Neill has won trophies as a manager with several clubs - which Moyes never did at Everton. {Ed025's Note - the guy is a charlatan jonesy..

Ed025: four trophies at Wycombe Wanderers; three at Leicester City; and seven at Celtic (alright - I'll grant they weren't so difficult). He wasn't that great at Aston Villa - and certainly not at Sunderland - and his win percentage (excluding Celtic) is only about 40%. But, to repeat myself, he has won trophies as a manager - which Moyes hasn't done at Everton. Anyhow, he's not my choice for Everton, and I said so in my original post.

Im a sunderland supporter and was elated when we got mon as our manager, what a big let down he was. not sure if it was down to the Robertson factor but his tactics were abysmal played people out of position and if he had still been in charge we would be already down. if everton do go for a manager from a lower league then the lad at Bradford could be one for the future like the way he plays attacking football and mixes youth with experience. whoever gets the job hope he carries on the good work achieved by moyes lads

09 May 2013 19:36:26
The way moyes is going on, on tv you might think he had already gone and forgot we got two games left. Bit of respect aye david

09 May 2013 19:01:55
Laudrup is the man to take us forward. Winning mentality and has worked well on a tight budget.2m for Michu and a trophy already, BK, make th call.

So your happy to win a cup and be mid table team

He won a trophy and turned a relegation candidate into a mid table team in 1 season. What could he do with a top 6 team?. You probably forget that Moyes came from Preston with no major success. Nonetheless proved himself to be an adept manager. So yes I'd happily have him. Who would you suggest then?.

That reply was stupid, Swansea had only been promoted one year (for the first time in the premier league) when Laudrup took over. I'm sure Reading would take a cup and midtable in the Premier League next season.

^we have a better squad than Swansea.

Not as good as Newcastle thou lol they still going on about being a bigger and better team than everton on their page surely are the most deluded fans in the premier

09 May 2013 18:47:53
Mark Hughes was aweful at City and QPR with all the money in the world, what's he going to do here with no money.

Please no {Ed025's Note - im with you mate..

09 May 2013 18:40:35
What does everyone think of Vitor Pereira as the new manager? Apparently Kenwright is trying to take into account who the fans want to see as their manager next season.

so who would your personal choices be. Mine would either be Vitor Pereira or Michael Laudrop as he is supposed to have a 5 mill buyout clause in his contract. They both play attractive football and are young. If we couldn't get either of these I would probably go for Martinez or Di Matteo.

Or anybody with a foreign name, because its cool

Pereira is an outsider to many of us so I can see why many people would skeptical. I for one would be interested in taking a punt on him as he has done well with Porto and I hope he can emulate Mourinho/Villas-Boas. Also, hope he brings Jackson Martinez, Joao Moutinho and Eliaquim Mangala with him; but here's to wishful thinking.

Wouldn't mind Martinez, Billic or Laudrup either, but I may have to hang myself if O'Neil, Hughes or Lennon get the job. {Ed025's Note - save me the rest of that rope mate..

09 May 2013 18:26:59
I can't believe anyone is honestly thinking Martinez would be a good choice to follow Moyes he has battled relegation for the last 3 years with no sign of improving, concluding with this years relegation
One loonatic even posting 'WE SHOULD BE SURE TO GET HIM IF THEY'RE RELEGATED'
What's wrong with you people!!

Well would you rather have makey, lennon, hughes? the best of a bad bunch.

NO
But believe it or not it's about getting the best manager available not the worst!
What's wrong with going for Laudrup. Pellegrini or Perreira or do you think these are too good for Everton?

09 May 2013 18:25:11
Everton aren't we, who are usually spot on have tweets saying the two main shouts are someone internal or Malay McKay. You heard anything Ed?
GoodisonGeorge {Ed025's Note - no george..

09 May 2013 18:17:07
Well now to the new manager situation.

As much as some of us would like Martinez or Laudrap, I can't see it happening as we'd have to cough up a lot of money for them in compensation.
So I personally think we need to look at who's "out of work".
The list is scary.

Mclaren (no thank you), Mcleish (hell no), O'neill (not too bad I guess), Hughes (hell no) {Ed025's Note - you need a hell no for o,neill marc..

09 May 2013 18:05:55
Just seen the tv interview with BK. looked like he was about to cry!

09 May 2013 17:55:04
Moyes should not be allowed near the first team for the remaining fixtures, he should be put on gardening leave. It's a massive conflict of interests! {Ed002's Note - He is a professional and it will be fine.}

Agree do not want to go to the match non sunday, maybe he should stay away
Patsyblue.

09 May 2013 18:35:06
Sorry as an employment lawyer no profession I know would tolerate such a conflict. The club secretary should be doing his job and telling the board of directors. As a company Everton take its governance from clearly established principles one is that the manager is an officer of the company who now has a major conflict.
The club is being run by part-timers.

How's it a conflict of interest when he doesn't start until next season?

09 May 2013 19:56:21
He has agreed a contract of employment with a rival club. He has a duty to act in the best interests of the club, but now he has a financial interest in a contract with a rival club. He is also making decisions that involve players who maybe a transfer target of his new employer.
Thats why he should go on leave as is standard, otherwise he could be liable to the club and its shareholders for any decision he makes in favour of United. United are a PLC, they should recognise this too as they could be accused of unlawful interference.

09 May 2013 17:34:42
Mixed emotions about Moyes leaving. Love the stability he has brought to the club. He has been loyal and put up with a board that offers little financial backing. Can't blame him for going to United, assuming that happens. He will find it very tough being the successor to the most successful manager ever. Will he be found out tactically? Probably. Will he be out of his depth in Europe? Probably. Will I care how he does when he manages United? Not at all

We now need to move on and find a quality replacement asap. They need to be brought in within the next fortnight and get preparing for next season.

I now look forward to reading about all our players being linked here there and everywhere.

COYB

Alastair

09 May 2013 17:27:56
Here a name for everyone what bowt slaven billic for the job

You have posted like it has not been said before, loads of posts already saying billic

09 May 2013 17:22:33
Strong rumours suggest Cardiff City manager Malky Mackay being offered the Everton job after winning the championship with the club.

More like the strong rumor you have just made up.

09 May 2013 17:15:35
If I was cynical, I would think that this has been in the pipeline for a few weeks (roughley since Christmas). There have been games we should have gone out to win (Last Sunday for one) or games we have stunk (Man U, Norwich, Sunderland), makes me wonder how much harder it would have been for Moyes to have Baines and Fellaini follow him if we had finished fourth. I hope that if he does come in for those two we hold out for top money, but I am also worried about some of our top kids whose contract have been allowed to run down. I would like to think otherwise!. On the subject of a replacement I would have Bilic, McCall or how about Irvine with Stubbs as assistant. One other thing I hope Van Persie has a good rest this summer, he'll need it when running the channels, defending deep or picking the ball up in his own half.

No in house appointments or other British managers unless you want us to get relegated.

09 May 2013 17:13:35
Am I missing something or are we being taken as mugs my Moyes and Man Utd.

1. Everton state no request came from Utd to speak to Moyes.
2. Moyes is under contract until the summer and any contact from Manchester United is against F. A rules.
3. Moyes meets Kenwright to confirm he will be leaving to become the new Manchester United manager.

Has he been offered the position by Manchester United without them approaching Everton? If so, when? Is he leaving without an official offer in the hope the job is his? I don't think so. Moyes has soured the second half of our season with this will he won't he sign a new contract fiasco and it looks like the plot goes back quite a way. He has cost us a compensation payment and put us in a financially awkward position as we will almost certainly have to pay one for a half decent manager. I for one am not impressed, I will not be sending praise and compliments his way and I would personally make him see out the remainder of his contract if it meant it kept him away from Old Trafford until the middle of the summer.

Popeye {Ed025's Note - it has certainly been a fit up by fergie popeye, is it classed as tapping up?...it is for me mate..

How Will keeping him to his contract help us? We need new manager in asap so he can bed in and get the feel for the club, people are going to come for players and a manager needs to be in place to deal with it, so why keep moyes there? Don't make sense to me!

Players can negotiate with teams when they have 6 months on there contract, sure with 6 weeks left he is also allowed! Yes we have defo been taken for a ride, what will be interesting is how much BK really knew about it! Moyes knowing are finance situation has not helped us leaving for no compo, especially if this has been in the pipe line for some time.
Thanks anyway davie, but don't linger around too long.

EverTheOptimistic

Keeping him may force Manchester United into paying a fee (however small). Moyes can be sent on gardening leave for all I care and we can get an interim manager who can take over the running off the team. It will show we are no pushovers and send out a clear message.

I'm a bit upset that he has said he won't make a decision until the end of the current campaign and he has gone against it. But he has been a great servant to the club but it is the right time for him to go, he can't take us any further. Goodbye and thank you Davey but we are Everton Football Club and we will prevail long after your gone.

SydneyBlue {Ed025's Note - i like that sydney..

They won't pay a fee, he's free in 6 weeks!

Give moyes a break, biggest club in world want him and all u do is slate him after everything he done for us, I for one will cheer him sunday and say thank you moysie, LEGEND

09 May 2013 17:04:48
I loved moysey whilst he was our manager but he's let me down by leaving. He's always banged on about loyalty for example when Lescott left but he's shown none himself. After 11 seasons I'd like to think he would of became an Evertonian and put the club first but he hasn't. Look at Steven Gerard Or Alan Shearer. They stayed with the club they love when they could of been winning titles. Moyes gave up on us. He'll say he's went to a bigger club and everton fans seem to be saying fair enough. Why? We're Everton. We're not a relegation fighting team who Moyes has turned mid table. We're a giant who moyes has kept asleep for over 10 years. He's given us premier league safety for the years he's been here, but no he's gone, come on Bill you need to sort something out because I can't see no manager doing as well as David with no money to spend. Anyway, fellow blues let's be optimistic and look at this as a new era for our historic club. COYB {Ed025's Note - i remember a certain mr gerrard asking for a move to chelsea..

Lol Ed, right after winning the CL wasn't it

Wasn't goner go for nowt though, was he.

Get real he's left us for Manchester United not Wigan, you don't honestly think he should have turned them down to stay with us do you? I worry about Everton fans sometimes.

09 May 2013 17:38:37
Great post mate fed up with luv in between him and Bk we have been asleep for ten years thanks to both of em

Been asleep for the last 10 years? what the hell are you talking about? been top 8 for most of the last 10 years

09 May 2013 16:53:10
I loved moysey whilst he was our manager but he's let me down by leaving. He's always banged on about loyalty for example when Lescott left but he's shown none himself. After 11 seasons I'd like to think he would of became an Evertonian and put the club first but he hasn't. Look at Steven Gerard Or Alan Shearer. They stayed with the club they love when they could of been winning titles. Moyes gave up on us. He'll say he's went to a bigger club and everton fans seem to be saying fair enough. Why? We're Everton. We're not a relegation fighting team who Moyes has turned mid table. We're a giant who moyes has kept asleep for over 10 years. He's given us premier league safety for the years he's been here, but no he's gone, come on Bill you need to sort something out because I can't see no manager doing as well as David with no money to spend. Anyway, fellow blues let's be optimistic and look at this as a new era for our historic club. COYB {Ed025's Note - i recall a certain mr gerrard asking for a move to chelsea mate..

09 May 2013 16:44:55
I loved moysey whilst he was our manager but he's let me down by leaving. He's always banged on about loyalty for example when Lescott left but he's shown none himself. After 11 seasons I'd like to think he would of became an Evertonian and put the club first but he hasn't. Look at Steven Gerard Or Alan Shearer. They stayed with the club they love when they could of been winning titles. Moyes gave up on us. He'll say he's went to a bigger club and everton fans seem to be saying fair enough. Why? We're Everton. We're not a relegation fighting team who Moyes has turned mid table. We're a giant who moyes has kept asleep for over 10 years. He's given us premier league safety for the years he's been here, but no he's gone, come on Bill you need to sort something out because I can't see no manager doing as well as David with no money to spend. Anyway, fellow blues let's be optimistic and look at this as a new era for our historic club. COYB {Ed025's Note - i seem to remember a certain mr gerrard asking for a move to chelsea..

So Mr Moyes has gone the thing now is who will he take with him and how will it affect the rest of the team. Who will replace him? I personally wouldn't want Martinez, what's he done for Wigan they've spent the last few season fighting relegation, so if we're looking for a new manager let's make it someone special. I'd prefer Roberto Matteo than Martinez, keep away from the likes of Mark Hughes, and Steve McClaren, or go for someone from abroad rather than picking from the same old group of losers who will stay for a few months, then watch the team produce miserable results get sacked and leave with a pocket full of millions for being crap. Let's hope the board have some ambition about their decision and choose someone who will show passion & committment to the teams and their supporters.

09 May 2013 16:35:01
When Moyes leaves the players are going to take a mssive morale hit! We need a manager the will be able to bring the confidence back up, we also need some MORE funds so we can challenge for top 3 places, I hope none of my fellow supporters give Moyes grief for joining united, as much as we despise that, we have to respect the scot! COYB! Let's come out of this strong! I heard ole gunnar is gunna be the boss? Is this true Ed?

Jordan! {Ed025's Note - i really dont know jordan mate..

09 May 2013 16:17:43
Rooney goes there for twenty odd million and we boo him all day long. Moyes goes for f all and it's good luck Davey. Judas

09 May 2013 16:23:25
Koppite

degsy

I don't blame Moyes at all; good luck to him. I do however think Utd are foolish. Half of us have wanted him gone at some point over the last few years as he's tactically naïve and can play some awful, negative football. I guess SAF realized that he can't control Mourinho.

Now to business. Bilic or Poyet but please NO Martinez!!

Pod

If roo had given us 11 seasons I'd be wishin him good luck as well. Bottom 6 when he took over, left us top six. Good luck davey

09 May 2013 17:14:50
Original poster cannot possibly be an Everyon fan

09 May 2013 16:08:43
What about Steve Round Ed?

Rich84 {Ed025's Note - lets hope he takes him with him rich..

I have a horrible feeling round will be sniffing BKs wotsit for the job. There is no way on this earth that man should get near it. I have never trusted him ever since he was part of the England set up who failed to qualify for the Euros.

09 May 2013 14:41:24
Just a question to see what fellow blues and eds think, but how does everyone feel about giving big Dunc a crack at the top job? He's a legend of the club and very respected by all.


SydneyBlue

No, we don't work on sentiment alone.
Andy The Chef

Has no experience as a manager, never mind as a manager at the top, send him away for a few years to manager lower league sides and then look at him then if we need a new manager in years to come {Ed025's Note - that sounds fair..

That's a good long term plan but let's face it a few of the names being thrown around haven't exactly managed at the top level,

Solskjaer highest level = molde
Neville = none
Martinez = Wigan ( not exactly top level)
Lennon = Celtic (equivalent of Wigan)

Then you have Hughes who has tried and failed at the top level with financial backing.

Only manager I would like to see have a shot is Laudrup.

All I was saying is that with Dunc there would be the advantage of him knowing the club and players.

SydneyBlue

You're forgetting th Porto manager Vitor Perreira who is out of contract at the end of the season!

09 May 2013 15:52:25
So Davie has gone and we wish him luck. Very few leave Everton and be a success as a player or manager. Only Lineker and Rooney spring to mind as players and they left coming into the best years.

This next manager has got to be right otherwise we will end up like villa struggling each year.

09 May 2013 15:50:59
Good luck to Davey, kept us up there with no money and kept the club as stable as possible, time to look to the future of EFC now. {Ed025's Note - thats right mike..

09 May 2013 15:40:08
Extremely sorry to see MOyes go but my son DAn came up with a good shout as replacement manager Roberto Di Mateo he's managed Chelsea and West Brom, good shout

Fozzmeister COYB and IMWT (In Moyes we trusted )

He's just not good enough for me, at Chelsea he just played counter attacking football and got real lucky!

09 May 2013 15:33:01
Man Utd welcome to DM on their twitter account

09 May 2013 15:28:48
Juup Heynkes any1? he is on a free in the summer

johny89

Yes definitely but unsure whether he would come to premier league at his age.

stewillow

09 May 2013 15:15:19
Well then it's official, Davey's leaving. All I can say is thanks for the memories Moyesy, great servant to the club and it truly is the end of an era.

BitterBlue

09 May 2013 15:10:29
everton app confirms moyes will leave.

09 May 2013 15:08:13
hi blues reds fan here I think for u its a shame this didn't come about few weeks ago before dicanio went to sunderland he would of been as good at motivating players and man management as moyes did a great job at Swindon only behind the scenes issues led to him leaving and look how he got an awful sunderland team playing with a bit of fight and i'd keep an eye on how Watford go in play offs and try for zola surely his presence alone would inspire players anyway good luck think its good for us both to be doing competing as where would all the banter be if 1 of us wasn't here we"d miss each other

09 May 2013 14:42:43
There has been a lot of negativity surrounding Neil Lennon being linked with the job. Yes he is managing in a poor league but let's not forget that he took a team costing £7million to the last 16 of the Champions League! Beating Barcelona and finishing above Europa League Finalists Benfica. He has also been through a hell of a lot up North with the bomb threats of a few years ago but has came out fighting and could easily have walked away from Celtic and Glasgow for good. He would be a much better appointment than the likes of Mark Hughes that's for sure!

Yes he did, but do you honestly think that when moyes goes (and surley now baines and felli also) we can even qualify for europe, nope I don't think so, not looking forward to returning to the dark days or walker/kendal/smith again but it seems likley, that is unless kenwright gets a big investment, soon

Let it be Lennon, Talk of Laudrup too, and Neville for an outside chance

but please just don't let it be some dionsaur like our budget used to allow, neil warnock, mick mccarthy and the likes would be the biggest backwards step {Ed025's Note - so would lennon IMO..

Don't want him it's as simple as that.

09 May 2013 14:34:41
ian holloway anyone? press conferences and interviews will be a laugh to watch

09 May 2013 14:28:22
Don't want Martinez, done nothing on a budget at Wigan what good will he do for us.

Totally agree the man has had money and bought goodish players and for 3-4 years barely just avoided going down, the man is a clown a joke, to be laughed at

09 May 2013 14:24:18
Just rang me mam (88) for a chat 'What the ell's DM thinking about going to them? Mark my words it'll
all end in tears!' So there!
Mushroom Man

09 May 2013 14:10:30
Thanks Dave you did us proud, gave our pride back from relegation fodder to top 4 6,.

BK appoint a man just as hungry as Davey was and try backing him.

Ps how s*** is efc web site not a thing on about it

09 May 2013 12:59:48
Clearly the moyes to utd deal has been planned for sometime. Ferguson didn't just decide to retire one night and its probably the reason moyes has stalled on signing a new deal. I would like to think the board have been looking for managers and drawing up a shortlist for a while now. It looks like moyes is off so I really hope we don't leave appointing our next boss until a week before the 2013/2014 starts. We need to get someone in to get to know the players and identify where they need to strengthen. However I fear this will be the case with our board as they will once again get away with putting any money in the transfer kitty. I would personally like to see vitor pereira come in. A young manager that seems to have a bit about him plus he is out of contract similar to moyes so wouldn't cost a fortune to get in.

09 May 2013 12:40:52
I am one to sing Moyes' praises all day when it comes to what he's done for the club. Although some say he's brought an 'overachieving' mentality to a club that WAS ONCE winning trophies, well football changes and no club can be at the top forever so that is ridiculous. He has done a wonderful job to keep us constantly around the top 6 competing against team with much greater spending power and reputation. No doubt we all want to move on to greater things but there's no denying that with the resources Moyes has had at Everton over his years, for someone to better his achievements over those years, it would be purely down to luck.

For the last 10 weeks the media have asked about his future and he has always maintained that he will decide at the end of the season. This is all well and good and as hard as it is for the club it hasn't stopped us from looking for possible replacement options (which I am sure we have been doing), and I respect that he deserves the time until the end of the season to make up his mind. However, if he comes out now, any time before the end of the season and announces his decision to leave, he's spend the last 8 months lying to the club's officials and to the supporters. He's left himself no option really. With what has happened in the last 24 hours he now has to come out and say he's taking on another job (whichever it may be) or to commit to the club once again. In the case it's 'no news is bad news'. I'm cautiously excited even if he does leave. who knows what a bit of a freshen up to our great club can bring. Either way we're still Everton and no one person is greater than the club. Onward and upward to greater things no matter if he stays or goes.

COYB

09 May 2013 12:02:41
if moyes goes fine but I will be fuming if he takes jags, baines or barkley off us and leaves us without any quality in those positions I will not forgive him for that but if he does not take them off us then I wish him all the best

Would you take them if you were moyes

09 May 2013 11:47:15
So Bill appeared shocked and surprised at DMs possible move to Utd? Yer right and Kennedy was shot by a lone gunman! Beggers belief, how stupid does he think we
are?
Mushroom Man

09 May 2013 11:36:19
I have always backed Moyes and thank him for what he has done for the club. However if he is appointed utd manager today after saying he will wait until the end of the season to make a decision on his future I will be fuming. If he says he's going today, then I really don't want to see him at Goodison on Sunday. Appoint a caretaker, tell him to clear out his desk and say thanks and goodbye.

Fully agree white socks. While I like Moyes if he goes before the end of the season it shows us no respect.
JabEFC

Very good point Whitey.

Toffee ace

09 May 2013 10:32:23
Celtic manager neil lennon has had his odds shortend and is now fav to take over at everton should david moyes leave source sky sport and ladbrooks

For me it has to be Laudrup.
A lot of comments have been made about having a winning mentality and about being born a winner; well Laudrup fits that criteria.
His own playing career was littered with trophies and accolades and he graced some of the best teams in europe with his skills.
Add to that the fact that he won a trophy in a short amount of time with a team that was tipped to struggle once brenda left them and I think that says it all. - B2BB

Laudrup won't go.

I'd have Laudrup as player manager.

Toffee ace

09 May 2013 09:30:12
a few of the tabloids are saying moyes will go to man u before the end of the season. now I know there's only 2 games left but if that's the case will man u have to pay us compensation, no matter how small an amount?
don't get me wrong, i'm not bleating for compo, i'm not that way inclined, its just a thought.
domo

09 May 2013 11:59:30
Sorry no compo he out of contract by end of month

30th june actually not end of the month

09 May 2013 08:45:00
Martinez to replace Moyes with big Dunc as No. 2. Round to follow Moyes - Also Baines to go with DM = big shopping budget this summer.

Dave Whelan has said Martinez is too big for Everton, who the bloody hell does he think he is? Must have Martinez confused with Guardiola. I sincerely hope Martinez thinks he's too big, would be a disastrous appointment.

09 May 2013 08:24:26
I hope we get (billic) hopefully spelt right

09 May 2013 08:08:56
if roberto martinez is to sign, reckon he will persuade callum mcmanaman to come with him and maybe a few other players? especially if they get relegated. I would like jordi gomez, arouna kone, mccarthy and a few more

So basically you want the Wigam team, the same Wigan team who fight relegation every year?

Hardly the wigan team is it

09 May 2013 07:37:37
For me the new manager has to be martinez if we can get him, for those who say they don't want him because of wigan being in a relegation fight, look at it another way I think he's overachieved just keeping them up as long as he has, can't attract good players, playing in a half empty stadium every home game and playing a great to watch style of footy, and he's got them to a cup final and remember swansea might not be were they are if he hadnt help turn that club around.
ste c

09 May 2013 08:21:30
Absolutely spot on Ste

Degsy

Whilst all of this is true, winning games becomes a culture. As does losing games, and he loses too many for my liking.

He plays attractive football which is fine as a neutral, but after seeing their defence the other night against swansea I would be genuinely worried if he came to us.

Make the right offer for Laudrup though and I'm sure swansea will do business

Now that's a manager who knows what it feels like to win.

COYB
Toffee ace

09 May 2013 10:15:27
Ace their defence is a shambles mate that is why they leak goals. I would also prefer Laudrop ahead of Martinez but honestly don't think he would leave the Swans myself.

Degsy

09 May 2013 07:16:28
Everyone keeps banging on about finances as a reason Moyes has not signed a new contract. Moyes didn't sign a new contract because he knew he was getting the Utd job and didn't want to disrespect us fans by signing a new contract and then leaving.
We may well have lots of money in the summer or none, sadly it would not have mattered to Moyes if we had a billion to spend as the Utd job is arguably the biggest job in club football you can't hold it against Davey for taking it.
So stop worrying about finances as they would not have been a factor in his decision.
Onwards and hopefully upwards with a new regime.
Cos if ya know your history. Everton everton everton

Svenny

09 May 2013 04:48:11
One thing that has got to be right is the new appointment. When DM followed Walter Smith the club was in a poor state, particularly on the pitch.

Now it's different, we're close to top four. Currently top six. Capable of beating the premier leagues best.

Therefore we should be looking to recruit a top manager. And last time I checked DM was one of the top 15 best paid managers in the world so wages should not be a problem.

We also have 2 players on long contracts who can walk into any team in Europe.

So let's dust ourselves down hold our heads high and look forward to possibly a great new manager coming through the door

COYB
Toffee ace

P's. Cheers Davey for taking us from relegation fodder to where we are now.

09 May 2013 00:56:25
Not really a rumour, just a comment on BK's body language on tv just now. He always strikes me as an upbeat kind of person but he was very tired and weary, almost to the point of being upset and near emotional. Maybe it has just been one of them days and that I'm reading too much in to it but my initial reaction was that he is coping with some bad news there! Anybody else see the interview and what did you make of it? Ed. if Dave does leave then do we have any front runners for his replacement?
Spudv {Ed025's Note - its all speculation at the moment spud..

Spot on, felt for Bill last night. the guy looked genuinely shaken. Hope they pick a good Manager (not Neil Lennon) but ultimately, with not much cash, no buyers in sight and Moyes leaving, think we may be in for a difficult period as blues.

If there is any blood letting, hope they don't give Bill too much stick, thanks for all you did for Everton Davey.

Ironically, I think Fergusons reaction when he lost the title to City last year was that he had immediately started planning winning the title back 10 mins into the dressing room at Sunderland.

New Manager & players response needs to be similar, dust ourselves down, pick ourselves up and try harder right from the off. COYB

09 May 2013 00:57:16
whatever happens in the next 24/48 hours or even the next few weeks, we need to stay up beat and be positive and look at it as a step forward and the start of a new era at the club and push on and go furthur than moyes could ever dream of taking us! we have the squad (at the minute), the youngsters and the fans and abit of cash from the tv deal

TO be honest, whilst I was a fan of Moyes and thank him for everything he has done with this club. I am excited for the change, I want someone new, if it is from within the club I will be desperately disappointed, I want a fresh face with new ideas to take us forward. Preferably someone abroad as aside from really Laudrup, no one else really stands out to me.

Feels weird not seeing the ginger man on the sidelines next season after all this time, but time to move on and hopefully the next man brings some new things to the table, because for all of Moyes' positives, he did have some glaring negatives that frustrated fans time and time again.

08 May 2013 23:31:25
Would knock me sick if moyes came back and took baines and barkley off us what are the chances of this happening ed? {Ed003's Note - Baines probably imo }

09 May 2013 00:13:03
BK was questioned about DM on tv as he left his office just before 11pm this evening and he looked utterly drained to me. One response that "a deal has not been done" might be factually correct for now - as is his comment that DM is still contracted to Everton for the next six weeks or so - but BK looked like a man between a rock and a hard place as far as his club's future is concerned.
I fear that the club's finances - particularly the debt arrangements that I understand have to be renegotiated in the next couple of months - are going to be a real problem before next season. Getting a new manager will probably be straightforward - whether or not the fans like the choice - but providing funds for him will be a huge problem IMHO.
It could be d�j� vu - having to transfer players (like we had to with Duncan Ferguson, Wayne Rooney, and a few others in he past) just to keep the banks from putting us in danger of going out of business.
Still, always look on the bright side of life - cue whistling.

08 May 2013 23:40:04
This reminds of the time when Moyes was definitely becoming the Spurs manager. I am not convinced united will offer a job to a manager who has never won anything and has next to no european experience. I will no doubt be proven wrong.
ALASTAIR