Everton Banter Archive February 09 2019

 

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09 Feb 2019 22:35:38
Do some of these commentators/ writers actually go to the game. Just read 'Sigurrdson uncharacterisly quiet', what have the rest of us seen these past weeks.

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10 Feb 2019 10:18:05
I've always thought that they just skim over Everton. That don't have a clue when it comes to us.

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09 Feb 2019 20:45:24
Well I said 3-1 so got the result right but score line wrong so can't apologize.

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09 Feb 2019 20:31:03
Hi Everyone.
Well what can I say?
I think even dad would of had a hard time trying to justify the mess we find ourselves in, he was so stubborn though he would of somehow found a way.

With the mess we are in I think we need to go back to basics, I don't think MS is the one who can take us to that point.


I see a few think that letting David Moyse return would be a major step backwards, from what I have seen over the last dozen or so games, It would be a massive step forward, I do however agree that he would not have what it takes to move us up to the level of play that the top 4 or 5 teams produce week in week out.


No matter how much we all want us to be successful and become a genuine team that other teams dread playing against, we will not achieve it if we stay as we are. If MS is still here next season I honestly fear for us. If Liverpool win the title this season (Which they have a great chance of doing) the stick we will get from them will be nothing compared to the stick they will give us next season if we are relegation candidates and fighting for premiership survival.


Personally I do not care how many managers we end up having as long as at the end of the day we finally get the right one for us.


Take care

Tony.

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09 Feb 2019 20:40:16
You lad are spot on. It's bloody hard. Main thing, blood first.

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09 Feb 2019 20:41:23
David Moyes: No.

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09 Feb 2019 20:53:20
Moyes definitely a no for me, but hey mate who am I to say Yeh or Neh but something has to change.

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09 Feb 2019 21:39:36
On the plus side he'd sort the defense out and we wouldn't concede so many. Pretty much everything that Silva can't.

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{Ed0333's Note - I’ve said it till I’m blue in the face lads Rafa is you’re guy if you can get past the Liverpool connection. You need someone who will propel you to the next level which is European places. He’s a savvy & experienced premiership manager with a smorgorsboard of contacts in world football in my honest opinion relatively speaking I don’t think you could do better.

09 Feb 2019 21:42:02
We have a squad, they are on the whole a good bunch of players. Save money in the long run. Bin the fraud and hire someone like Benitez or Hughton of that ilk, people you know learn and adapt.

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{Ed025's Note - but are our players really all that DFS?, i cant see one leader out there, i dont see a player who can beat a man or a player who attacks the ball, maybe this clear out you want needs to be a bit bigger mate..

09 Feb 2019 21:49:14
Never knew your Dad personally lad, suspect his call would have been the sane as the rest of us, of experience over this period.

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{Ed025's Note - i still think of grumpy now and again, great guy...bloody old moaner mind..but sorely missed.. :)

09 Feb 2019 21:52:31
They don't listen ed333, been the ob ious choice for months.

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{Ed025's Note - liverpool fans would just love that, one of their cast off,s managing the little club everton...keep that fat spanish waiter well away from our door, if he was not good enough for them then why should he be good enough for us?..

09 Feb 2019 22:08:36
Still loved by them Ed. don't know about your lot but mine (Reds) , are beside themselves lol.

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{Ed025's Note - my 2 lads are red DFS and they like him..which is probably why i dont mate..

09 Feb 2019 22:15:01
Can't stick with this one ED.

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{Ed025's Note - i agree, but lets not panic and get the wrong man again mate..

09 Feb 2019 23:22:18
Your right Eds there's no leader on the park mate no one with the balls to take control and have a go at the ones who's not given there 10% let alone 100% half the team don't look interested mate.

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{Ed025's Note - they are not buying into the plan penysarn...whatever that plan actually is?..

09 Feb 2019 23:34:40
I was going to say Eds do we have a plan mate. A lot of people say Moyes back mate what do you think at least he shows some passion even when he left was a bit stupid.

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{Ed025's Note - i bloody hope not penysarn, i know we are in dire straits but i dont want that gollum faced traitor anywhere near my club mate..

09 Feb 2019 23:42:25
That will do for me mate.

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09 Feb 2019 23:53:42
Rafa at Everton? HA! He's a red through and through.

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{Ed0333's Note - Lets take this off topic for a second and rise above tribal allegiances, red or blue, wouldn’t it be a wonderful notion in life if we could just forgive someone’s past. Execute some compassion and forgiveness from time to time. I have no malice towards Trevor Steven for breaking Jim begins leg or Lucas Mouri intentionally derailing Divock Origis career with a snide ‘tackle’ it’s all part and parcel of life. I feel we have to use context in all situations. Rafa called Everton a ‘small club’ because you were his enemy in battle and in the heat of war you can generally be forgiven for incendiary remarks, It’s evidence of his passion for his employers. How many diatribes did Jose launch at United while he was boss of Chelsea that still didn’t stop him getting a job for the red half of Manchester. If Jurgen Klopp employed Neville Southall as Liverpool goalkeeping coach tommorow I would rejoice because I don’t see barriers I only see what’s best for my football club. What’s best for you’re club in my opinion is someone like Rafa Benitez not because it’s funny him being an ex red etc but because and I say this again and again IN MY HUMBLE SUBJECTIVE OPINION he would be a very smart acquisition in context of where you are as a football club right now.

10 Feb 2019 06:35:37
I understand what you're saying Ed, but I don't support Everton, I support Liverpool. I just browse a lot of the different sites and occasionally throw a bit of banter or chime in on the discussions.

I agree that he'd be a smart choice for Everton, but I just don't think he'd ever accept it. His loyalties lay with Liverpool, that much is very clear to see and I believe even when he wasn't employed by Liverpool, he said there are two teams he can never manage, Everton and Manchester United.

I would be disappointed if he became Everton manager, but I wouldn't disregard the fact that he won the CL and FA in his first two seasons for Liverpool.
That could all change though, because if he was Everton manager, and all Liverpool needed was a point at Goodison to win the league and he stopped us winning the league. I'd be pretty mad lol xD.

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{Ed0333's Note - my point still stands mate. If Rafa’s loyalty was to Liverpool why did he take the Newcastle job? I have no idea if Rafa to Everton would ever happen but if they offered him 10 million a year I’m sure he’d consider it regardless of wether he’s said he’d never manage Everton. I tell you what mate if United offered him a job you’re telling me hed say no? How many times have you had an argument with you’re partner and said that’s it we’re done and I never wanna see you again and 3 hours later you’re kissing the face off each other? People say things in the heat of the moment but the beauty is we have the liberty to change our minds.

10 Feb 2019 08:12:05
It's pointless panicking mid season. Like Moshiri says let's hold our nerve.
If things don't improve then he will have to go in the summer.
But getting rid now and who comes in?

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10 Feb 2019 09:07:39
I’m not sure panic is the word but our form this year says we will be heading in one direction and that’s downwards the saving grace is there are four or mote teamsworse than us.
I still fail to understand what the board saw in Silva to give him this job, he is Martinez reincarnate and his CV wouldn’t be the most inspirational read!
However we play the blame game as usual it is the supporters that feel the pain!

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10 Feb 2019 10:06:42
On reflection smit and nursing a slight headache (must be coming down with something LOL) , it is wise to wait till summer. It wouldn't surprise me if the feelers are already out.

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10 Feb 2019 10:50:29
Fully agree DFS, I hope the feelers are out.

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10 Feb 2019 12:58:24
He needs to pull this round, big time in the remaining fixtures or he will be gone by the end of the season.
One thing that baffled me yesterday was the inclusion of Siggy. I love the player but maybe we need a high energy no 10 Like Davies.
Mina has to replace Zouma out of circumstance but I'd rather he replace Keane.

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10 Feb 2019 14:46:16
Rafa would be my first, second and third choice but I think the main stumbling block would be that he would want full control over all transfers, not sure how it would play out with Brands.

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10 Feb 2019 16:42:30
I'm not sure son of Grumpy, he has no control over transfers at Newcastle.
Most big teams work that way now, so unless he's going to move to a smaller club he might as well stay where he is.

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09 Feb 2019 19:50:52
Don't know why Watford have a beef with Everton. They should be instructed to pay us compensation for taking Silva off their hands.

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09 Feb 2019 23:16:48
Gone on to long. Benitez is not a panic, dare I say even going along 18 months. Whereas this fella I wouldn'trust in a society of one.

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09 Feb 2019 19:05:28
Another bad feeling for Saturday evening,
I am a bit baffled by it all now, nothing seems to change performance wise, I just wish Silva would have the balls to drop Sigurdsson from the squad, seems strange that James McCarthy can't even get game time. Unbelievable situation over the last 2 months.

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{Ed025's Note - both jimmy and ademola must wonder what they have to do uran..

09 Feb 2019 19:04:42
I've stayed quiet for a long, long time but I feel Silva got the job as the powers that be saw him as a young Jose mourinho. We have the chance now to remove him and bring I someone new but who and who would want to come?

Arteta has been learning off pep and is ex-blue but unproven.

Rafa ticks every box but would he leave now? I think not.

Moyes would install the passion and bring through youth but isn't it a step backwards?

Eddie Howe, I feel an English Silva who has good spells and bad spells.

Theresa May, not strong enough and is to busy messing up need it:)

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{Ed025's Note - its theresa may for me out of that lot pauly.. :)

09 Feb 2019 21:16:20
He got the job based on Moshris advisor. Whoever that is, if they are live, they need to bury their ego. If, as I suspect an existing board member/ executive is involved then he should let it go. Give him an honoury position. I stress my opinion.

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09 Feb 2019 18:40:37
Hey Ed 025 I watched the match today and I have been one of the ardent fans on here to give Marco time, but on yet another very dismal showing I have to say my patience is running very very thin, i just cannot see where he going to turn things around, we are so lucky we have a few points on the board and should stay up, but I really can't see any other team as bad as us, we have Cardiff coming up after the two week break in footy so maybe this would be a good time to let him go as we a bit of time before the next match to get a replacement in, we loose against Cardiff and I cannot see us winning his time will be well and truly up, cheers mate.

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{Ed025's Note - i wish i knew the answer GB, actually i thought today was not as bad as in previous weeks as they all put a shift in, but there was little threat as usual and we dont play as a team, i would describe it as rugby where the ball keeps getting passed sideways and backwards but with little forward momentum, as you say the cardiff game could be a watershed and im not confident that we will beat them at all, i really dont know what to tell you mate i will just take a back seat i think..

09 Feb 2019 19:40:00
AS an add on to above Ed 025 what really niffed me today was that Jimmy Mac supposedly fit and Lookman who is fit can't get in the team and why Siggy is picked week in and week out will finally push Marco out for me mate, this was just the type of game Jimmy Mac would have relished.

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{Ed025's Note - we have been saying it for a few weeks GB, i just wish i could fathom the reason why mate..

09 Feb 2019 20:35:48
The only thing I think it could be is that he is not fit at all mate.

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09 Feb 2019 20:54:15
I love this Club lads. I take no pleasure in you Ed and GB seeing through this fraud. To be honest in all my 69 years, I have never been so thankful of my family, that despite the Grandson Red LOL.

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09 Feb 2019 21:02:40
As another addon. Silva is probably on a 4 year multi million contract. I along with thousands of other Evertonians would love to know just who this advisor to Mr Moshri is.

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{Ed0333's Note - Orville The Duck judging by you’re last three managers.

09 Feb 2019 21:22:24
Lennie the lion Ed mate.

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09 Feb 2019 21:29:58
Ed333 normally lad that would be funny. Now though you and me need to meet.

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{Ed0333's Note - I’ll be over for the title parade in May buddy.

09 Feb 2019 22:32:59
Remember to bring the dark glasses.

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Liverpool Player Ratings thus far during the 2018/19 Football Season

09 Feb 2019 18:57:00
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Liverpool Player Ratings thus far during the 2018/19 Football Season

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09 Feb 2019 17:49:23
Wenger with Arteta as assistant?

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09 Feb 2019 18:36:57
Benitez with Arteta.

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09 Feb 2019 18:50:24
Benítez with Wenger.

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09 Feb 2019 18:56:20
9 points off the drop Donald Duck and Arteta looks good at the moment . I know you should give Silva a chance but enough is enough it must be bad even the Eds are quiet.

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09 Feb 2019 18:56:23
No way for rafa not for me.

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09 Feb 2019 19:04:40
Laurel with Hardy might have given it a go :-)

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{Ed025's Note - love it nick..

09 Feb 2019 19:50:52
Dont know who I'd pick but we need somebody I think. I was peed off with Moyes and how he conducted himself, but what if he came back as and advisor or no.2 to someone like Arteta. He would sort the defence out. We need to go back to having players like Joe Royal had, the famous Dogs of War.

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09 Feb 2019 21:33:43
How did Moyes treat us? He told Kenwright (Moshri Advisor) , he wanted to leave.

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10 Feb 2019 10:42:11
Dfs, we know he agreed to become man utd manager 6 months before he left us, all why playing dumb about the links to the post.

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09 Feb 2019 17:41:10
I am too long in the tooth now to even blow a gasket anymore with our current manager, squad and personnel at the club.

I know come The weekend, McCarthy will be on the bench, we will eventually go a goal down, then the usual 3 subs coming on and same three going off week in week out.

You can set your watch by it, same tactics and line up, we are so predictable, every team we play already know how we will set up, everyone from the Everton supporters, opposing teams and fans, everyone bar our manager knows the outcome.

Absolutely no leadership or fight by the mahority, with the exception of the youngsters at least trying.

With Zouma now banned, if fit, we need to get Jagielka in defence, and get McCarthy putting some fight in midfield.

As long as we keep ignoring those two players, we will keep going into freefall.

Make no mistake we are a shambles, will persevere until the end of the season with Silva, expect more of the same, unless he grows a pair, and starts mixing it up with changes of tactics and team selection.

Strap yourselves in, because I do not see Silva making those changes anytime soon.

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09 Feb 2019 18:05:39
He was and is an appalling choice, with no justification stats or resume to justify.

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09 Feb 2019 18:39:14
Jag finished mate, but do love him, McCarthy the same, he has always been more interested in paying for Ireland, I know more fight from the but?

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09 Feb 2019 18:43:04
I wonder what Moshri is thinking now. I have gone from indignant to downright anger now.

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09 Feb 2019 17:17:28
Lads did I hear right that we have only won 8 out of 48 away games if that’s true its not just disgraceful it’s utterly embarrassing.

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09 Feb 2019 17:29:42
I heard it aswel and thought surely that’s not right. Pathetic.

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09 Feb 2019 17:41:00
Yes you did. The decision to hire this failure is embarrassing enough, but surely the decision to keep him on is going to end in disaster. We may well be okay until summer, but should we retain him, can anyone honestly say he will not take us down.

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09 Feb 2019 18:34:07
This is definitely relegation form, if we do get shot of MS who could sort this bunch out it’s not like they’re bad players what they are are underperforming, I would love an experienced man with an ex Everton player alongside learning the ropes who that double could be is the major question, if we were to start the new season like this we would definitely be in the brown stuff, it’s never easy being a blue lads.

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09 Feb 2019 23:11:01
Benitez. With unsy arteta or Phil neville as this job is bigger than his current occupation.

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09 Feb 2019 17:16:03
Only 11 points between us and Cardiff now.

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09 Feb 2019 17:43:41
We are safe on 33 points Penysarn. Sam is looking good now, who would have thought.

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09 Feb 2019 17:46:12
We should stay up but be close.

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09 Feb 2019 17:52:55
8 points.

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09 Feb 2019 18:42:14
I hope your right mate and it is enough.

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09 Feb 2019 16:54:59
All free agents

Julen Lopetegui

Zinédine Zidane

Antonio Conte

José Mourinho

Arsène Wenger

Laurent Blanc Laurent Blanc

Heiko Herrlich

Who would you want and are any of these realistic.

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09 Feb 2019 16:57:36
Would they do any better with the players we have?

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{Ed001's Note - I thought he was suggesting they would do better than the players you have....}

09 Feb 2019 17:05:04
He did and I read it that way but the question still remains the same. They have all been used to dealing with top top players. Could they do better with ours? I doubt it.

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09 Feb 2019 17:08:50
Conte would kick ass, Herrlich would do a job with what we have. Wenger would need time. It is a quandry but for certain Silva now has to go. I have no idea on stats but where is Silva on Everton stats.

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09 Feb 2019 17:48:24
Nobody off that list exept Conte. Most of them do not know how to manage unless they have top players and bottomless budgets.
In fact Mouriniho is a joke as is Wenger.

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09 Feb 2019 18:35:50
Wenger is not a joke. He is another that needs time, the difference between he and Silva though is stark.

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09 Feb 2019 18:58:59
Jose and arsen are jokes. That's a ridiculous statement mate they are both top top managers.

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Premier League Previews 9 February 2019

09 Feb 2019 10:39:01
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Review Of The Day 9th February 2019

09 Feb 2019 07:29:01
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