Everton Banter Archive May 08 2013

08 May 2013 22:56:06
You'll see a great insight into not only the boards ambition, but their organisation over the next few days. Even the most optimistic blue has to accept that Moyes is virtually gone, everything points to it.

Firstly, we have to get the right manager, if we go for a cheap easy way out such as Lennon, then I fear the worst for this great club.

Secondly, notice the way Man United appear to have a structure in place? Fergie goes and they've got it wrapped up and sorted in 24 hours. The board have to appoint a manager and quickly, if they don't there will be unrest and anger at what might happen in the future. Get it sorted Bill.

Crucial times for Everton FC ahead, whether its good or its bad, all we can do is fans is get behind the team, support whoever takes the helm

Thanks Davey, good servant for the blues, hope it goes well at United for him

Alex {Ed025's Note - good post that alex..

DM has said for a while now that he'd wait to the end of the season, so BK will surely have been working on getting plans - including contingency plans - in place. However, I imagine that BK hasn't got a satisfactory (to DM that is) financial plan sorted out - although I'm equally sure that replacement managers have been considered and some maybe even sounded out.

Think moyes has always been a bit to close to unt, not a conspiracy nut, but feels very much like something that has been in the works for a very long time. We are ok to buy tickets, shirts ect, just not important enough to be told the truth.

08 May 2013 22:50:58
So Dour Davey is gone, while there has been stability,
top half finishes what have we won? I'd personally of finished 12th a won the cup twice or league cup.

Today is a day where I want and I believe many want some brightness, something different, a Laudrup a Villas Boas? I don't know but some invention and bravery.

Last sunday's derby tippified the last 11 years and after all that time Anichebe and Fellaini upfront jesus and dullness personified, who was at Hull away 3 down. 4 down at home to West Brom some of the most dreadful football I have ever seen.

Yes be careful what we wish for but. its stale we know that. we are Everton one of the biggest clubs in the land and trophyless for 16 years its not good enough come on blue Bill what's your plan. ?be inventive, brave let's move forward nobody is bigger than our club especially a man who has played the season for his own ends rather than our GREAT CLUBS we deserve better.

Fair points made mate. I think sometimes we actually forget who we are, and have been brainwashed into thinking we "over achieve". So whoever gets the job gets my full support as long as they believe in the club, and what it stands for.

08 May 2013 22:47:36
has anyone seen David Moyes Managerial achievements listed on tv?

this is it

won division 2 title with preston in 2000

reached 2001 division one play off final ( and lost)

qualifies for 2005 champions league

reaches 2009 fa cup final ( and lost)

also his away record against the mancs, RS chelsea and Arsenal is as follows

played 45

won 0

drawn 18

lost 27

points 18 out of a possible 135

Not very impressive reading is it for someone who has earned in excess of £15 million quid into the bargain.

time for a change

COYB

Come on Stewillow. the guy hasn`t had a chance to compete in the big league. He has kept us in the premier league with little recources and a board that don`t want to invest, give the guy a break and look forward to a new bluer future with a new badge!

08 May 2013 22:33:36
I don't understand why people are posting as if Moyes has already left. He's still Everton's manager, I'm not going to believe any of this talk until David has publicly come out himself and said he's off. Let's hope to god he's still the Everton manager next season. Just out of curiosity though, out of 10, what would you say the chances of him going are Ed?

BitterBlue {Ed025's Note - 10.

08 May 2013 22:31:12
Don't shoot me for this. can't believe saying it myself. would anyone welcome rafa? {Ed025's Note - wheres my gun?.. :)

Ed. I wrote the post. but seriously despite previously being dirty rs, kopite. don't you think he has the wits to do the job. maybe the only issue is can he work with a limited budget. Martinez you would have to say cannot. based on this seasons performance {Ed025's Note - rafa is a good manager mate, but history with our noisy neighbours, should rule him out IMO..

Here feel free to use mine!

Fair comment Ed. I was trying to think along the lines of not cutting my blue nose off to spite my face. like the rest of you on here clubs best interest at my heart. we always say no player or manager is bigger than the club. goes both ways for me. remember a mr ablet (rest his soul), mr Beardsley. to name a few

08 May 2013 22:19:36
It all makes sence now. No wonder moyes didn't sign a new contract as he was waiting for fergie to call it a day. Saying he will wait til end of the season. rubbish

Its obviously that fergie had words with moyes months ago about him retiring {Ed003's Note - months or years?}

08 May 2013 22:13:34
The honeymoon for david will last a month but who ever went on honeymoon with mother in law sat
in row A watching your every move!
Have faith against Satans Red Devils -Jesus is a Blue
Mushroom Man

08 May 2013 21:58:37
Think its moyes' time to go to be honest, and it could be a good thinv, he's never been demanding he is a top manager and shouldn't have to put up with low funds. I think we need a manager that demands funds every season were a top club and we deserve better.

08 May 2013 21:51:45
Not definite he's even going yet, all he wants is a new striker and a bit of money, you never know we might have some investments? There where supposedly people at the Fulham game who where interested, he said he's exited about some players at everton like mirallas so don't presume he's defiantly going Manchester United might not want him? He ad no Europa experience

I think you need to remove your blue tinted specs. This seems to be as close to a 'done deal' as you can get. BlueTone

08 May 2013 21:39:01
Just heard bk wants big dunc an steve round as the next managr what do u think ed {Ed025's Note - i think its a match made in hell to be honest..

I honestly think we would be serious relegation candidates in a short space of time if that happened.
Joe EFC

08 May 2013 21:36:23
I think we need to pray tonight in the style of, 'Dog the Bounty Hunter' Dear Lord tonight we need a miracle to help our little club against satans Red Devils. Thankyou. Now
wait tomorrow Benfica anounce they have given permission for everton to speak to Jesus!
Sleep and have faith God is a Blue {Ed025's Note - hallelujah..

Haha I like the the joke apart from. little club Stef the blue

08 May 2013 21:24:09
absolutly gutted about moyes all those moyes 'haters' who never appriciated our football and the 'better' class of players he brought I just hope we can move on and carry on building for the future. Sort of feeling angry with bill kenwright and the board surely investment might of swayed daves decision, imagine if we was in man city position would he want to leave then. Whatever happens bill and his croanies need to make a massive decision within the next week {Ed025's Note - he done really well for us richy, but if he wants a move, then his heart must not be in it anymore mate, i dont want anyone here who is not folly committed...that goes for players as well..

08 May 2013 21:20:25
Gary Neville has came out and said he is all for Moyes to take the utd job. I'm no conspiracist but I can see the news now,

MOYES TAKES UTD JOB

Then

PHIL NEVILLE SIGNS ONE YEAR CONTRACT AT UTD

Then

PHIL NEVILLE JOINS UTD COACHING STAFF

All seems a bit convenient doesn't it.

SydneyBlue {Ed025's Note - you know when you say you are not a conspiracist sydney??.. :)

Haha ok Ed you got me. Likely scenario though where else would Davey's golden boy want to end up.

SydneyBlue {Ed025's Note - true mate..

08 May 2013 21:08:09
According to tv sport Moyes is off to United and as a blue I wish him all the best however I think he is a fool to jump right in after Ferguson. The mancs ( cockneys ) are not convinced with him and if things don't go right from the very first whistle He's going to be under pressure He's never felt at Everton. I think it would be wiser for him to let someone have a go and take the reins after them.

I admit He's done a good job for us but no trophies and no wins at old trafford, anfield, chelsea, and highbury/emirates in 44 attempts?

I guess all I'm trying to say is that he is not irreplacable {Ed025's Note - no one is pete...players or managers mate..

08 May 2013 20:50:17
This is really taking bill out of his comfort zone. Who ever maybe coming in will need cash to spend. Bout time the board put there hands in there pockets

bluepaddy

08 May 2013 20:31:45
People saying they are desperate not to get martinez, well for me I don't care who is the manager I will stand by him as all evertonians should and as most evertonians have stood by moyes for all his time here and the new manager should be no different {Ed025's Note - your right skittle..

08 May 2013 20:15:20
I'm bemused. Will he go, won't he, who will replace him, who can replace him, will he take any players, won't he, what's next for bill, what's next for efc. Next few days are going to be pivotal for our beloved club.

08 May 2013 19:30:14
List your mangers who
You would like us to approach mine would be

Martinez
Billic
The Porto manager
Poyet

Eddy {Ed025's Note - 4 good choices eddy..

08 May 2013 19:16:11
please, please not martinez, he has had three shots at getting his side relegated, and now looks ready to pull it off, what a wonderful CV, THIS MAN GIVES OVERATED A BAD NAME.

08 May 2013 18:56:33
Hi guys, a red here, was just wondering how you think Moyes would do at United, if he goes there? United fans seem happy with the idea, but do you think the pressure would be too much? What he's done at Everton is admirable, but I'm not convinced. Would you be happy for him, or annoyed that he left?

I think Poyet would be a good replacement. May be a bit premature, but congratulations on a great season, key to a successful season is consistency, and you guys sure have been consistent.

Cheers

Red Sheep in Blue clothing {Ed025's Note - i supported him 100% while he was here, but if he does go i dont really care how he does to be honest, things move on, so its onwards and upwards for us mate..

08 May 2013 19:40:26
so the playground bullies get their own way again. that well known sports radio station just confirmed moyes as the new man u manager and that he's down in london talking to bill right now, an official announcement will be made in the morning. is anyone else sick and tired of man u just taking what they want from other clubs without any regard for anyone else?
hope our search for a new manager isn't the farce our search for new new players usually is when we leave it until the last moment and have to accept what's left.

domo

Man Utd are arguably the biggest club in the world, who in their right mind could turn that down? And don't forget we'll be needing a new manager and it appears we could be going after Martinez of Wigan. It's dog eat dog, survival of the fittest and Manchester United are at the top of the food chain. It just so happens we're higher than Wigan and will be looking to take their 'prized' asset. {Ed025's Note - while fergie is still there, moyes will be the puppet, while strawberry nose will be pulling the strings IMO..

Fair points. I guess whoever takes over at man u will have to bend over and take it while sir whisky nose is still at the club in some capacity.

08 May 2013 18:33:36
Sad to see moyesiah go, he has obviously been great for the club. but, we look onwards and upwards.

look at the clubs who have lost their managers the past year that were vital to their style. swansea lost rodgers and spurs lost redknapp. I know, they probably weren't as important as moyes was to us, but their replacements have done a better job then they did, so there is plenty of reason to be optimistic about the future for us here at this great club.

for me thomas tuchel from mainz should be the next man in charge. great manager, used to working with a small budget, knows how to motivate his players, and plays an exciting, physical, pressuring brand of football. reminds me a lot of jurgen klopp from dortmund.

08 May 2013 18:10:22
On Saturday, the Goodison faithful is braced to say farewell to one of its greats of the modern era. Most fans have been expecting this for some time but it doesn't make it any easier. The pain the fans will experience will be heartfelt. So all fans should sing his name loud and proud as a token of our appreciation. Thank-you Jan Mucha and good luck for your future.

Mike

I think you will find it's Sunday.

This is the best thing i've ever seen

Not funny, and were playing sunday {Ed025's Note - it made me smile mate..

Brilliant as always

Pod

I knew it was bloody Sunday as soon as I sent it. sigh.

Mike

08 May 2013 17:48:52
Rumour has it Judi Dench is to take over at Goodison. She has been fondling around with BK in the stands and a love triangle has developed, apparently Moyes got involved. Which is why he never signed the new deal. Anyway, Sylvester Stallone as her assistant to provide the muscle. Heard it's a done deal. This is the place for ridiculous managerial suggestions right?

PhilNoClue {Ed025's Note - well its as realistic as gary megson!!

Next season I look forward to having the same excitement, as I did when I saw Mike Walker appear on the touch line in his shiny suit. I just knew that european football was around the corner.

08 May 2013 17:36:02
I'm probably going to get my head bitten off here but I'd like to see Benitez as our next manager. The man knows how to win and could be the one to take us up another level. His ties to the city/area could play a part in him accepting the job.

My first choice would be Pellegrini (spelling?). Seeing what he's done with Villarreal and the Malaga with relatively little money, I think he would be a great manager for us.

People may say that we can't attract the big names like that but surely we should be sounding them out at least before settling for someone like Gus Poyet?!

Why people mention Benitez is beyond me, he is crap, sacked from last 2 jobs and can not hold on to this one, won with team houllier built, then ruined the sh*te and left. Plus don't think our 'little club' is big enough for his ego!

Us lads from Aintree know a bit mate and I agree Benitez for me.
Mushroom Man

Please NO! It's embarrasing but I don't think he'd look at us. But that's just as well. Because I for one want him nowhere near our job. And I don't think he will be.

08 May 2013 17:16:51
Maybe I'm in the minority here but I can't believe the amount of people on here saying Martinez as the replacement if Moyes decides to go.

He has arguable had more money than moyes to spend and every single year Wigan struggle to stay up. Not for me thank you very much.

Personally Laudrup or maybe even Billic would be a much better choice. Though for me the best person for the job is our current manager.

Just another point on Moyes going to United, personally I think he would be a fool to be the man who goes in straight after Ferguson as there can only be a dip after someone has been in charge for so long.

Now if he plays the long game he and we can have the best of both worlds.

Moyes signs a new Two year contract, gets to spend any extra T. V. Revenue money plus any sales (Fellaini is probably going) to strengthen the squad and have a proper push next year for Champs league. If it works out with us then why leave we are his creation after all. If it doesn't then he can go and try his luck at Man U after whoever has almost inevitably failed in replacing Ferguson.

Although I don't really want him either cash for transfers is not the be all and end all of attracting top players. Wages driven by gate receipts is one thing and then the prestige of a club is another. For any player below 6 mill purchased their wages are a higher expense than their fee. Look it could be worse than Martinez but for me Billic is the one. He seems to be an intelligent de canio with a tie to the club. That's who I want anyway.

Svenny

BlueStu are you my long lost twin?

I've been saying the same or months.

No Martinez

Yes to Billic and Laudrup

08 May 2013 18:40:46
We would all love Laudrop doc

Degsy

I agree with op. people talk about martinez as if he's on the same tier a moyes because wigan have a similar budget to us. well considering martinez has been with wigan for a few years now and he's a tactical mastermind like everyone says then why are they in all likely hood going to be relegated this season? martinez has never taken them above 10th place, in fact he's never even been close! slaven bilic or that porto manager sound way better than martinez, at least they have had success beyond beating relegation at their positions

08 May 2013 17:12:09
If Martinez does come in I think he may have difficulties trying to adapt the way we play. Hope I'm proven wrong however

If anything it will be the opposite; we will have trouble adapting to his style.

Martinez plays football the right way and that s what I want.

Maybe our players will adapt the managers style of play

08 May 2013 17:07:53
Ed025, I'm gutted, loads of time for Moyes, thought the world of the fella. Don't begrudge him one bit, the chance to manage Man Utd, but I was living in hope, very unrealistic hope, that the recent takeover gossip might just of bore fruit and he'd of been given a decent treasure chest to prove what he could do with funds akin to Spurs, Liverpool and Arsenal. As I say, a very forlorn hope, but someone's got to win the lottery. Anyhow, still hope he stays, though it seems highly unlikely, and, as expected, if he leaves, then thanks Davie for at least giving us back our pride, it could of been much more with a decent board/investor {Ed025's Note - your so right mate..

08 May 2013 17:01:50
eds:
1) Do you think Moyes is off?
2) If he is off, I'd love us to get Vitor Perreira as our new manager, any chance of that happening? He's out of contract soon I believe & he said he'd like to manage in the Premier League. {Ed025's Note - it looks very likely mate...dont know perreira,s situation..

Cheers ed. I think Pereira is my first choice, but hey I'm not Bill so

08 May 2013 16:59:52
Guys - Firstly, if Moyes does go, not the end of the world. I believe there are plenty of managers who could easily match what he does.
Secondly - A lot of people are banging on about Baines following him to United, for around 15m. We have Oviedo. And would therefore have 15m transfer fees for a striker.

Only my 2 pence worth.

Anyway, hope we get a speedy solution to all this.

PaulWRX {Ed025's Note - a good positive spin on things paul...i dont want anyone here who is not 100% committed to the cause..

Totally agree

Baines is worth 25 million. I think although you say we have Oviedo. Baines is a creative outlet, without the chances he's created this season a new striker would have little chances to work with. There are others in the team I'd sell before him. Even Felli!. In fact I'd sell the whole squad before I sold him.

08 May 2013 16:42:24
Martinez IN and then bring Kone Mccmanum and mcarthy?
DAN

Can we have the 3 players without Martinez? Not sure he's right for us

Oh perfect so next season we can become the new wigan. barely escaping relegation every year. no thanks to all of that

08 May 2013 16:39:24
Well apparently Moyes is off, couple of months ago i'd have happily taken martinez, but now i'm having my doubts, yeah wigan can play some decent football but 70% of the time the are rubbish, they'll probably get relagated this season, martinez doesn't spend money, I mean I know wigan are very poor but after being in the prem for a good few years and selling the likes of valencia and moses and n'zogbia they deffinately have money there, maybe the chairman is really tight but to me he seems to love the club, he wants to lead them out at Wembley and if martinez had really begged him, got down on his hands and knees i'm sure he would have been able to stump up 10 mil, wigan have some v good players mccarthy mcarthor kone maloney but thinking back they only have stayed up the last few seasons because one player has had a stormer, moses nzogbia etc, all i'm worried about is that we won't develop into a top 4 chasing team but who knows if he comes then I won't be upset he could be fantastic but they were just a few concerns I had, personally I would prefer the porto manager, but let's give moyes a huge send off against west ham, last home game because he bloody well deserves it, let's get behind the new manager and see where we are next season, COYB oh yeah 1 more thing hope to god we don't get O'niel least charasmatic man I've ever seen.

For a moment their I thought you was talking about Everton not Wigan.

Well he's the odds on next manager just thought i'd say my opinion on him and the club he's managed, how are we supposed to say anything about him without talking about the club he manages?

Martinez is a tough one. I can't quite work out what he is. On one hand, he seems to bring the ultimate best out of his offensive minded players. Players you would think we're pretty average. Rodellega, Moses, Di Santo, Maloney, macarthy, Macmanaman, when playing with freedom they have scored or created some amazing goals. Made teams look very average at times, including us. But then there's the defensive aspect. They seem so poor back there. If they had even a half decent defense I think they would be mid table easy. He would be a worrying appointment for me. I'd feel more optimistic with Poyet, Bilic or Solskjaer, but they are just my personal choices. I'm sure there are hundreds of different ones out there.  

Wigans performances might have something to do with the players

08 May 2013 16:36:03
on a brighter note, if moyes takes over at united, we'll still have that relationship with them and will take more players off their hands like we did with gibson, howard, neville etc {Ed025's Note - on a sadder note..he might take some of our jewels..such as baines?..

Rooney might come back they can have Gibson in exchange

If BK had anything about him, he'd had a clause in there somewhere, no tapping any of our players for 12-24 months

08 May 2013 16:08:03
I wonder who BILL is going to hide behind now? and looks like all the moyes hater are going to get there wish PADDOCKBLUE

And it will be a dark day if he goes, not looking forward to returning to the walter smith days

08 May 2013 16:03:48
if we got o'neil, lennon or saunders I would seriously consider never going to goodison again. but as a true blue I would go, but I would stage some sort of protest. don't want it but can see martinez as its the easy choice. also from my last post, laudrup and bilic would also be decent appointments.

1878barlow

A mate at work just threw owen coyle's name into the hat. I hope not but wouldn't suprise me

It will be a foreigner

08 May 2013 16:03:48
if we got o'neil, lennon or saunders I would seriously consider never going to goodison again. but as a true blue I would go, but I would stage some sort of protest. don't want it but can see martinez as its the easy choice. also from my last post, laudrup and bilic would also be decent appointments.

1878barlow

08 May 2013 16:01:18
If Moyes goes to utd. Good luck to him. he's done all he can with us and he was inevitable to leave at some point. let's not get our heads down. COYB!

08 May 2013 15:48:53
Ok lads it looks like moysie is off but let's not let this disappointment effect the way we feel for him. He has been a fantastic manager for us for over a decade now, and I believe he should be allowed to leave if he wishes with all of our blessing. Not sure who can fill his shoes tho. {Ed025's Note - nice sentiment that micky..

08 May 2013 15:47:51
We can live without moyes but cannot live without the players who will follow him. Looks like its a sad day for the blues.

08 May 2013 15:43:58
Dean Saunders to be the new manager

Ha ha - good one.

08 May 2013 15:37:07
if felli and baines leave with moyes so what. we will get in excess of 20million each and think of the replacements we can buy. ok it would be hard to replace baines but not impossible. and instead of felli we could buy a goal scorer and creative midfielder with money to spare.
moyes has done a good job with us but we will continue as we have good foundations to build on and let's face it many of us, me included are beginning to think he has brought us as far as he can. so good luck to him at united if he goes, and let's give him a good send off sunday, along with phil neville. but let's not be devestated if he goes. we will be fine

like I said very exciting summer ahead

1878barlow

08 May 2013 15:43:20
is it just me or is this stuff quite stressful

Mike S

On the contrary, I think it's exhilarating and at least it should force a decision from Moyes about staying or going since ManUtd are supposed to make an announcement in the next 48 hours.

08 May 2013 14:47:48
Ed clear something up please mate has moyes agreed to join united or not? {Ed004's Note - I am not sure. Now wanted to ask Everton fans a serious question. Do you all think Moyes is ready to make the step up to manage one of arguable the top sides in world football? This is in no offence to Everton who I have wanted to do well all season but managing Utd will be completely different. Moyes will be expected to win every game and his record vs the top teams and Liverpool especially away from home has been awful. He also doesn't play the best of football and he doesn't seem to be as tactically good as other younger managers in Europe. So in your opinions are United wise in going for him?}

Ed 004 I agree completely. I think he is a good manager but in big games sets out not to lose rather than win. it says something when some of us everton fans are not fussed if he stays or goes. then united want him. seems strange. like I said good manager but don't think he is ready.
1878barlow {Ed004's Note - That's my biggest concern, everyone who has ever talked about Ferguson has said he has a winning mentality which he instills in all his players, I've haven't heard anyone say that about Moyes. If he is appointed manager he will have all my support but I don't think he is the man to take us forward in Europe}

08 May 2013 15:45:59
Imo he will be a massive failure and will get sacked after a year and from what I hear a load of utd fans are going mental and not in a good way

Ed, you make some good points. It won't be about his previous record but will be about the boots he's filling. For that he will get either sympathy or vilification. Time will tell if he becomes good enough.

Our loss more than uniteds gain I think.

Toffee ace {Ed004's Note - Thanks}

I don't agree with the negative comments and think Utd are wise to go for him. I would say the appointment is more down to Moyes as a person. He possesses the same personal values as Fergie, he's a man for the people and has great work ethic. The football side, I feel his tactics at EFC have been limited by our squads ability. Saying that, this year we have played our best stuff under Moyes. With the current Utd squad I honestly believe they will play the same attractive passing football whilst always being solid at the back. SAF will act as mentor upstairs without undermining him. He knows too well what happened with Sir Matt Busby when he moved upstairs. I would not be surprised to see P Neville make a u turn on not retiring and become part of the Utd staff. There is no circus with Moyes. He is what he is, and I am sure he will do a great job at Utd if appointed and you will win the title again next year. Europe if you fail, well that's not down to Moyes but down to your team not being as good as a Dortumund, Real, Barca, Bayern etc. SAF won that twice in 26 years, so to match that Moyes would need to win it by his 13th season in charge. As a blue I would back him 100% and wish him the best of luck.

Hank {Ed004's Note - Thanks one thing I don't know about Moyes is how good is he tactically. That has been Ferguson's biggest problem in European football and there is no doubt in my mind that if Ferguson was a bit better tactically he would have won a lot more in Europe but Moyes seems to be like Ferguson in this trait. The best football we have played under Ferguson in the past 10+ years is when we had Carlos Quieroz as assistant manager and going by what United players have said he was fantastic tactically}

If your main objective is to get 40 points and higher mid-table Moyes is your man. If you have ambitions of winning anything again then Moyes is not your man. He's a good manager but not a great manager. yet. It remains to be seen what he can do with a bigger budget and squad but a club of Utd's stature can attract nearly any manager in world football, and can do a hell of a lot better than Moyes. I'm grateful for what he's done for us but he's bottled most of the bigger games.

I think Moyes sets his team's tactics according to the quality of players he has. This season, with probably his best Everton squad, he's played good football when his best players were available. At ManUtd, he'll not only have a better squad, but he'll be able to get other top players transferred in - he could never get the top players at Everton, even though he'd clearly seen them on his many scouting missions.

I don't agree with the negative comments and think Utd are wise to go for him. I would say the appointment is more down to Moyes as a person. He possesses the same personal values as Fergie, he's a man for the people and has great work ethic. The football side, I feel his tactics at EFC have been limited by our squads ability. Saying that, this year we have played our best stuff under Moyes. With the current Utd squad I honestly believe they will play the same attractive passing football whilst always being solid at the back. SAF will act as mentor upstairs without undermining him. He knows too well what happened with Sir Matt Busby when he moved upstairs. I would not be surprised to see P Neville make a u turn on not retiring and become part of the Utd staff. There is no circus with Moyes. He is what he is, and I am sure he will do a great job at Utd if appointed and you will win the title again next year. Europe if you fail, well that's not down to Moyes but down to your team not being as good as a Dortumund, Real, Barca, Bayern etc. SAF won that twice in 26 years, so to match that Moyes would need to win it by his 13th season in charge. As a blue I would back him 100% and wish him the best of luck.

Hank

If your main objective is to get 40 points and higher mid-table Moyes is your man. If you have ambitions of winning anything again then Moyes is not your man. He's a good manager but not a great manager. yet. It remains to be seen what he can do with a bigger budget and squad but a club of Utd's stature can attract nearly any manager in world football, and can do a hell of a lot better than Moyes. I'm grateful for what he's done for us but he's bottled most of the bigger games.

No one can say if Moyes is a great manager yet. Anyone who speaks of his tactics must realise that we have not had an amazing squad. When we have our best team out and it isn't working, what can he really do? This year, maybe he could have risked Barkley more or oviedo. Not been so cautious bringing Naismith on. At Utd, Rooney ain't having a great game, neither is Van Persie. Hmm, let's bring on Hernandez or Wellbeck shall we? Or Kagawa, Young or Valencia are playing badly. Let's bring on Nani, see if he can turn it on. The one thing Moyes will do in Europe is ensure you are not open at the back and defend as an entire team, I would have thought in Europe that was important. From what I have seen SAF has adopted a 2 striker policy a lot in Europe, and surprise surprise, Utds defence has been done on the break. Moyes reluctance to go that route with us has been noticeable. So in a way, his negativity, with your standard of player, could actually make you a better team in Europe.

Hank

United have got slightly better players than us in most positions and more of them

08 May 2013 15:10:51
Just Hope all this speculation doesn't effect are game on Saturday! 3 points a must if we wanna finish above the kopites

08 May 2013 14:40:01
if I could chose next everton manger if moyes goes top 5
1 Vitor Pereira
2 michael laudrup
3 Slaven Bilic
4 Roberto Martinez
5 Ole Gunnar Solskjaer

08 May 2013 14:25:16
Martinez should be a first option. Peirera (unsure about spelling) would also be a good choice.

It is going to be Kenny Jackett. Why else do you think he left Millwall a couple of days ago? It makes sense now.

Mike

08 May 2013 14:22:09
Just read some comments on moyes potentially taken over Manchester United some were saying moyes has not won anything but remember when there fans were calling for fergies head how wrong we're they he was never gouging to win the league with everton under that budget but ferguson will want moyes for his managing skills not just to win trophies year on year they will want him for a decade or more moyes fits the bill all the so called top bosses have won trophies on spending money apart from mourinho winning champ league with Porto and the season at Porto as they stand out for me but people rant and rave about pep guardiola he has won things with probably the best team in the world for 10-15 years not saying its easy but can he build a team on vey low budget and win it the answer is no so moyes should be judged on what he has done with a club that spends less than most in the league is budget is on par with stokes and even they spend a bit more as there wage structure is lower if I was utd moyes would be my choice so if he goes good luck to him but thanks for everything you deserve our blessing if only we had money "

I don't know why people are that bothered about moyes leaving. I'm sure the new manager can come in and manage moyes' magnificent achievement of never winning bugger all. It is not that hard to do if you think about it. moyes has made a career out of it.

Mike

08 May 2013 14:18:51
this contract thing has ruined our season its been ongoing for past year and even with 2 games to go were its important to get 3 more points to stay above liverpool and we get more money per place that we finish in. so whoever is responsible for this farce should resign. every player or manager should be moved on before they run there contract down. a web site are now reporting moyes will leave goodison before sat. what a mess. so unproffessional from everybody concerned in my humble opinion and moyes promised a decision when season was over. which has not happened yet. disgusted blue.

08 May 2013 15:11:43
But the season is not yet over so he has not broke any promises

Grey Skies

08 May 2013 14:09:03
Moyes has gone, just been confirmed

08 May 2013 14:02:30
Don't understand why everyone is so scared of Moyes leaving, we are more than capable of attracting a decent manager and the players will remain the same. No one is bigger than the club! Yes he has got us playing well, yes he has got us challenging for Europe but where else is he going to take us? We need investment to progress NOT David Moyes!

It's the fact that after Moyes leaves the team will fall apart. our worst summer ahead. Moyes, Neville and Fellaini gone for sure. we all know utd wanted Baines and now will take him and cheaply too. Jags, Jelly, Mirallas, peanuts and more. dark dark times if moyes goes

08 May 2013 13:49:32
Mr moyes, if it's not too much trouble, could we please have an honest answer, TODAY.

08 May 2013 13:40:40
So now we know. Moyes has been hinting for sometime he's going to be off this summer. Then suddenly the moaning jock retires. Is it just me or do other people think that "Moyes to Man Utd" may have been a done deal for a long time? Well even if it is he's been a good manager for us and the likelihood that he'd move on to a richer club has always been on the cards, so best of luck to him that what I say.
Now let's see who we can get to take over. forget Benitez he'd do a good job but he's had his fair share of fan back-lash I'm thinking, the Special One. I wish but no the board will almost certainly be looking at Wigan's situation, O'Neil, Poyet but my choice would be Paul Lambert. I know he's had a hard year at Villa but he's been working on small budgets for years and knows how to motivate and attract loyalty from his players.

Ole solskjaer, has been doing a good job, he could be a option!

EverTheOptimistic

08 May 2013 13:12:26
With all the rumours rife it's typical of EFC keeping quiet. Our fans deserve to be told today at the latest. It's a nonsense that we sit in the background (rolling over as usual) waiting for everyone but Everton to tell us what's happening. it stinks. We are a big club and our supporters shouldn't be kept in the dark like this. The board are a shambles!
Barry m

Agree, we all Mushroom Men- Kept in the dark and fed on rubbish.

M Man

I totally agree…. If what I have been reading on news sites and posts on here is true and the Ferggie’s retirement has been planned since last season (just kept quiet) I have no doubt that David would have been informed he was in the running for the United job as he and Ferggie are supposedly mates.

It just remains as to when he was told about the possibility of being United’s new boss and when he told the board what his likely plans were. I'd like to think David has some integrity and would have been up front about it. With that said all the b*ll*cks about the clubs finances, transfer budgets and playing in Europe to me screams cover-up and makes us look like fools.

While I do appreciate that Ferggie had not announced the retirement and should given his achievements have the opportunity to make the announcement in his own time. Would it have caused that much trouble if EFC made a public statement along these lines: Everton FC would like to inform our supporters that it is unlikely that David will be the Everton manager going forward as he feels it is time to explore other opportunities. Everton FC would like to thank David for his services over the past 11 yrs and wish him all the best. As a club we are exploring our option for the coming season and planning for the future. We again thank David for giving the club the proper time to consider our position and make the best decisions for the future of Everton FC by imforming us of his intentions at this early stage.

Allowing United to dictate what Everton FC tell the supporters about the tenure of OUR manager has made us look weak.

08 May 2013 13:03:48
My shortlist would be Blanc, Periera and bilic.

And Rene Girard

08 May 2013 12:35:58
Hmm, let me think.
ManUtd: A squad with real strength in depth - they could field two teams that would pretty much be equally competitive in the Premier League. A track record of bringing through (and selecting & playing) youth players plus a track record of bringing in talented players from outside. Massive crowds (huge matchday income) and worldwide recognition (huge commercial income). A trophy room full of championships and cups.
Everton: Not quite the same for many, many years.
It's as near a no-brainier for David Moyes to take over at ManUtd as any decision could be IMHO. I just hope he doesn't come after our better players, but who could honestly deny them the chance of almost-guaranteed success. Oh, calamity!

If moyes goes BK needs to have some sort of clause in place that moyes can't tap up any of our players for 12-24 months

I don't see how any such clause restricting DM could work, as it would be a "restraint of trade" on a third party - namely any Everton player who actually wanted to move to ManUtd. It'd be up to Everton to refuse the player's transfer request or, more likely, grudgingly accept realities and get the best fee possible.

Clause in what? moyes is a free agent in 2 weeks. please explain what your talking about.

Kenwright can not put any clause in a deal to take Moyes to Manchester United as Moyes will not be classed as an employee of Everton as of the end of the season.

Dixie 1878

The poster who said that Moyes is out of contract soon and talk of any clause restraining transfer targets therefore being meaningless is spot on.
All my post said was that, even if any such restriction was attempted by Everton, it would surely be impossible to enforce.
Anyway, as the poster implies, it's all academic since Moyes will be a free agent shortly and free to bid for any players he wants to bring in to ManUtd once he's at their helm.

08 May 2013 12:21:03
Am I being cynical by suggesting that rolling over most seasons against ManUtd and letting your team get its tummy tickled has proved a wise investment now that the "arch tickler" needs a successor? It's said that "points win prizes" and, having conceded all those points over the years, it certainly looks now like someone is about to win the jackpot!
Conspiracy theorist - moi? ;-)

08 May 2013 12:12:40
moyes leaving could be a blessing in disguise, new manager could potentially start playing a lot of the youngsters and from what I have seen from quite a few of them in the under 21's and out on loan, we have some great talent there

08 May 2013 12:01:52
Nice to see that Wigan will be in europe next season even if they don't win the cup because city will finish 2nd even more pissed off now that we couldn't get to wembley.

Andy

08 May 2013 11:49:43
What goes around comes around, Moyes will not last two seasons at unt, by dave, don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.

I have been saying for months that moyes is in his comfort zone here. What is the aim at the start of a season here? Finish in the top 7 and maybe a bit of a cup run.
What is Uniteds aim? Win the league, win a cup and have a run in the champions league.
United must be mad to even contemplate taking moyes.

Mike

You've also been saying a load of bo**ocks for a lot more months and months pal, and a lot of us find it mind numbingly depressing, you might entertain the odd fella on here, but you make the rest of us suicidal, nothing but a poor attempt at being a wind up merchant who, quite frankly, bores the *rse off me

08 May 2013 11:48:48
Heres an idea: BK could produce a TV series to give candidates for DM's replacement a chance to compete for the job - just like that programme that picked the star of his west end show. A sort of "How do you solve a problem like Moyesie?"

08 May 2013 11:33:06
moyes man u
jose chelsea
martinez everton

watch this space

So basically what everyone else has been saying sherlock since fergies retirement was announced bet u wernt saying this on monday

some poeple are funny!

08 May 2013 11:19:59
With all this talk of DM now certain to leave which I think has been set in stone for a while now I really think we will recruit from within with Alan Stubbs moving up to 1st team manager with maybe the likes of sheedy big Dunc and even phil Neville moving to various other roles within the youth structure I really can't see BK or the board paying 2-3 million or even more compensation on a Martinez laudrup when they won't spend it on a player but whatever happens we move on with or without DM and if he is going will it be make or break? Stefc

We can't appoint anyone from within because we will get relegated as simple as that, so get real please.

If that happens, 2014/15 we will be in the championship

08 May 2013 11:05:08
If moyes goes dosent mean Steve. Round will go to. What about Philip Neville?

Hopefully he will take both with him.

Neville leaves the club at the end of the season anyway, he wants to go and play someone else for a season or 2

08 May 2013 10:32:20
I have a feeling rafa Benitez will be lined up for our managers job IMO, he always says his family are settled in the city soo it football anything can happen

Mick

Don't ever want him near our club, Matinez for me if Moyes goes and if he does go I wish him all the best and thank you for some good memories but we will move on COYB.

He is only manager with prem experience who I would be happy with. but i'm unsure if he would with his ties to the reds.

08 May 2013 10:54:04
ha ha

cracker that Mick

I reckon Di Matteo would be a good shout.

08 May 2013 11:46:07
Third poster you have got to be kidding haven't you, ONLY PERSON YOU WOULD BE HAPPY WITH

seriously, you got to be messing, we hate him more than his own fans (Chelsea)

I wouldn't mind di matteo

08 May 2013 10:24:25
fearing the worst, if moyes does go then I think were in for a short sharp shock, we will struggle big time, we all know who are the first 2 players he would like to sign (felli, baines). then we have to hope whoever does take over can sort a squad out quickly, we have aging players and it could end up being 3-4 season of assembling a decent squad again

I would like to think that if he left for United he would have a bit more respect than to take two of our best players. That would leave us in a rut and as far as I can see, Moyes has more respect for the club than that, hopefully.

If he does go then what would he care for us for, his main aim will be man u so why wouldn't he raid our club, for the players he knows and trusts

08 May 2013 10:03:21
Moyes and Fellini to man utd.
Martinez, McCarthy and kone to Everton

08 May 2013 09:42:23
If DM leaves Everton, then I expect Mark Hughes to be a front runner to take over. I'm not saying he's my choice, but he probably ticks a lot of the boxes for BK and the rest of he directors. Martin O'Neil had opportunities in the past to join and didn't - although I'm not sure how serious those opportunities were - and he does like money to spend. I can't see Martinez leaving Wigan for us - he was destined for a top European job anyway, but now his CV will surely be tainted by relegation. As for Roberto de Matteo, I just don't see the attraction, but then I didn't think Laudrup would do well at Swansea, so what do I know! Whoever comes in, he'll not have the same relationship with BK and there's also the risk for the immediate DM replacement that any new owner (if that ever happens) will want to bring in his own man. Having said all that, as it stands without adequate finances are Everton an attractive proposition for any "top" manager?
Can we risk taking a promising, relatively unknown, lower-tier manager - like we did with DM - and give them the chance to prove himself?
If we want to really to be crazy, we could go for Ian Holloway - especially if Crystal Palace don't win the play-offs. Again, I'm not saying he's my choice, but he's always had good things to say about Everton being a proper football and our better defenders might mean his attacking football tactics wouldn't be so suicidal in the Premier League as they were at Blackpool.
As for a foreign (not British or Irish) coach, I just can't imagine that working for us - but that probably shows my limited imagination ;-)

So in a nut shell anyone then.

08 May 2013 09:31:28
Ferguson is leaving at the end of the season, Moyes or MOURHINHO will go there, if this is the case we need to get Di Matteo in!

08 May 2013 08:29:34
Dont get why everyone is shi**ing themselves when nothing is finalised yet imo moyes still won't leave but if you are reading this moyes and you are leaving to Manchester United PLEASE do not take baines with you take felli by all means but not baines because baines is everton I don't mean we are a one man team I mean he is what you want in a player he is humble and the way he claps the fans every time for a corner kick is brilliant just please don't take him away from us and give us rooney back ;)

COYB IMWT

08 May 2013 07:46:49
Lot of things clicking together Ed:

Rooney wanting out of Man U
SAF retiring rumours
Moyes not signing a new contract
Felli probably getting a big move somewhere

You don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to piece that jigsaw together mate.

If this does happen as it looks likely then farewell Mr Moyes but please leave Bainesee behind {Ed025's Note - but do you think he will degsy?..evra will be put out to pasture, and unfortunately they see leighton as an ideal replacement, i really hope im wrong mate..

08 May 2013 08:13:01
I hope he doesn't Ed2, big loss for us that mate, he may not out of respect, maybe.

Anyway as for the rumours flying around, I usually take no notice but this one looks a goer to me mate, you also have SAF is about to have an operation and he would also finish on a high.

Too many coincidences for this one to be BS

08 May 2013 07:12:02
If moyes goes' bring in poyet!

Why? To clean his office?

L4 4EL

08 May 2013 01:34:23
Well it looks like moyes is off, unless the board can give him atleast 15m to spend. Any ideas who could be on the short list, for me Martinez, Di Matteo an Poyet are the managers I would like. Young, fresh an like to play.
Big C

DI matteo would be who I would like to replace moyes

Martinez for me

Martinez teams play good football but leak a lot of goals. if moyes goes he is going to be damn hard to replace.

07 May 2013 23:56:42
Moyes to United is doing the rounds at the minute with rumours Fergie is considering retirement, hear anything ed? {Ed025's Note - that rumour is rife at the minute mike, but to be honest, i cant see it happening..