Everton Banter Archive June 08 2013

 

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08 Jun 2013 22:44:25
"I don't think it's an issue at all with Marouane, " said Martinez.

"Transfer speculation is unstoppable when you have been as successful as Everton. You will always get other teams who admire and want to take your best players. That's normal and happens everywhere. It happens at Real Madrid, at Manchester United and Everton.

"So there's nothing we have to speak about.

"What I want is him to be ready for the next season, be ready to take an important role at the football club, and understand that it is a big season for him - for the club - and to get into the Belgium team to try to win the World Cup.

"I really don't believe Marouane is thinking, 'am I going to be here?' I don't think that is in his head. "

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I don't think anyone will be sold this summer I think they will all give Martinez a chance to see how it goes for at least a season IMO. And if they do want to go then so be it as our ex manager said "Everton don't let our players go for cheap" and if BK is true to his word RM will get every penny if players are sold and am sure he will spend it wisely. can't wait for the season to star. COYB

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08 Jun 2013 21:54:47
I don't think selling felleni is a good idea not much we can do if clause gets activated but if it does we have 24million estimated to replace not just him but his presence on the field he can control a game against the best and he was our top scorer I would rather martinez keeps base of squad and let Jonny and other players that we can ship out and add 2 players rather than sell our best player and add 5 or 6 players we are not far away remember but we are crying out for a goal scorer and have been for years anichibe is a squad player not good enough for top level I do think Jelavic will come good jus hope Martinez can play a style where he can stay in the box for the one touch finishes like we were used to which I think he could if we adopt Martinez formation of 3-4-3

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08 Jun 2013 22:03:28
THE EVERTON FOOTBALL CLUB COMPANY LIMITED

NOTICE OF GENERAL MEETING

NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN, that, pursuant to a Requisition made in accordance with the provisions of section 303 Companies Act 2006 and received by the Company on 17 May 2013, a general meeting of the above named Company will be held at the Liverpool Philharmonic Hall, Hope Street, Liverpool L1 9BP on Wednesday 26 June 2013 at 6. 00pm to consider the matters raised in the said Requisition namely:

BUSINESS OF THE MEETING

1. Obtaining from the Chairman and Board of Directors an explanation for their September 2008 decision to amend the Articles of Association such that Annual General Meetings need no longer be held and their reasons for not calling any General Meeting in the 5 years since.

2. Obtaining from the Board of Directors their appraisal of the financial performance of Everton Football Club Company Ltd over the past five years since the 128th and last AGM was held, specifically to answer questions from Shareholders concerning the financial performance of Everton Football Club Company Ltd over the past 5 years and to hear the Board of Directors future plans for the club.

3. To pass a resolution, on receipt of the answers given by the board to the aforementioned questions, to require that the Directors of Everton Football Club Company Ltd amend the Articles of Association to ensure that the longstanding tradition of holding formal Annual General Meetings is permanently reinstated.

By order of the Board

G Ingles
Company Secretary
Goodison Park
Liverpool L4 4EL
7 June 2013

NOTES:

1. A member entitled to attend and vote at the above meeting convened may appoint one or more proxies to exercise any of his/her rights to attend, speak and vote at that meeting on his/her behalf. If a member appoints more than one proxy, each proxy must be entitled to exercise the rights attached to different shares. A proxy need not be a member of the Company.

2. A proxy may only be appointed using the procedures set out in these notes. To appoint a proxy a member must complete, sign and date a proxy form and deposit it at the registered office of the Company by 6. 00pm on Monday 24 June 2013. Any power of attorney or any other authority under which the proxy form is signed (or a duly certified copy of such power or authority) must be enclosed with the proxy form.

3. In order to revoke a proxy appointment, a member must sign and date a notice clearly stating his intention to revoke his proxy appointment and deposit it at the registered office of the Company by 6. 00pm on Tuesday 25 June 2013.

4. Any corporation which is a member of the Company may authorise one or more persons (who need not be a member of the Company) to attend, speak and vote at the meeting as the representative of that corporation. A certified copy of the board resolution of the corporation appointing the relevant person as the representative of that corporation in connection with the meeting must be deposited at the registered office of the Company prior to the commencement of the meeting.

5. The stock transfer books of the Company will be closed from 5pm on Friday 21 June 2013 until 9am on Friday 28 June 2013.

Blue Ducky

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08 Jun 2013 20:46:06
I really hope we get some real answers about our club at the General meeting that has been called for.

Aside from the manager which I know some of you are going to moan about and players, what questions would you like to be answered.

I'm still concerned with our debt and stadium but I really want to see the meeting held again annually. we had them for over 100 years then they just stopped doing them. I think it just creates uncertainty with the fans and club and probably creates more heat for themselves.

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I don't think the debt is going to be much of an issue with the new tv deal. minimum £100 mil over 4 years. then the bonus league payments for finishing in top ten and so on.

I know it's a long time but in the next 4-8 years we could be in a amazing position with money to challenage the big boys

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I just don't get some fans what answers do you want yes we are looking for a buyer yes there is probably some interested parties but untill a buy out is complete and announced we are in same position we have been in for years with regards to money and stadium we will have a bit more than usual this year as the tv money is higher but in terms of wage structure it will be the same untill we can increase revenue

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I wanna know we're we stand on stadium issues. and why are commercial model based on the size of the club is way behind compared to other similar sized clubs. this agenda of no Agms only breeds suspicion amongst fans, u need some kind of dialogue

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I actually don't care about buyers for the club but I do want to hear answers to questions from our supporters and stakeholders that have a genuine interest.

I don't like the negative stuff against the board as Kenwright loves the club with every fibre in him and is doing everything he can but it's good to talk.

But hey some fans just want to read everything off the back of a paper.

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Aren't debt really isn't bad for a Premier League club

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08 Jun 2013 20:25:37
Anyone know if hallam hope has been offered a new deal? Hope so (pun intended) he looked very promising and a composed finisher also has one hell of a shot

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There's more chance now Moyes has gone. Because let's face it, after Rooney, he was scared of playing a youngster as he thought it would mean losing him if he was any decent.

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08 Jun 2013 19:55:57
Somebody actually posted on here before Martinez was appointed that Mirallas (and others) would look to move on if he was appointed. I think it is a possibility, but can't understand why he'd want to. Martinez employs tactics which invite the players to express creativity and flamboyancy, things you'd expect him to be excited by. Plus, there is the possibility that Martinez may (hopefully) realise that Kevin's favored and best position is upfront, rather than the wings, which would suit him and stop us from buying players who aren't good enough such as Kone.

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Yes I did and got a fair amount of abuse but there you go. Baines is open to joining Moyes but happy to stay otherwise. Mirallas' agent is also Pereira and he is trying to get him the job at Malaga. If so you can guess who he will target and Mirallas' dad IS Spanish. Jags is happy to stay but Mourinho is a big fan. The only question with Fellaini is Arsenal or Chelsea. Martinez is a decent coach and may be good in a couple of years but he isn't the stature or the experience to convince our top players that we will improve this season or probably next. Jelavic is unsettled anyway and needs reasuring. Unless he can make a major signing fast this won't change. The loss of most of the coaching staff including Weir and Neville (very likely) also unsettles the team. It isn't that they dislike Martinez or are disloyal but careers are short. The source is a good one. I think we'll lose 3 and keep 2 of these 5, with the question for me being which side of the line Baines and Mirallas land. It isn't "fact" and things can change. If Martinez can act quickly next week and land 2 good players that might mean we keep 3 or even 4. but he doesn't have a honeymoon period with the senior players.

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I don't particularly want us to sign him but how you can say that he isn't good enough is a joke he'd be our best striker assuming Jela has gone. Better than Vic and Tolis.

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I'm not so sure players will want to go. I actually think if Martinez says to Fellani he can play as a Box to Box mid he will stay because this is what he wants. He won't join Moyes because he knows he will be put all over the place.

As for others I think they will look forward to a more expansive game and players don't think the same as fans.

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Just because someone's the best, doesn't mean they're good. I personally love Vic; I think his work rate, strength and hold up play are top class but we need someone more clinical. Kone is better at this than him and Jelavic now, but that doesn't make him good enough to push us forward. We need someone like Soldado (if we're aiming really high) or Cardozo.

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BlueJohnUns, I think you are dead right with regards to Fellaini, however I think we should cash in and split the proceeds with a CF and a CM. The money from the TV deal we could spend on a few promising youngsters, LM, AM & GK and I think we will be sorted for next season

Sailor

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Sailor I don't disagree. What I would say is if Martinez convinces Fellani to stay no one else would want to leave and could unify the team.

But then again it could fund more purchases and freshen things up further.

Who'd want to be a manager hey?

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Not me mate, I am happy watching from the stands.
Sailor

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08 Jun 2013 19:14:45
Been thinking for a while about this but martinez likes to have pace and flair on the wings which he will be happy to see kevin mirallas waiting here for him but on our left side pienaar is creative and more technical but doesn't have blistering pace so can anyone see pienaar being put in a more central role? And maybe oviedo or someone being put left wing no doubt martinez will know how deadly the partnership between baines and pienaar (bainaar) is but can anyone see him breaking this I mean I hope not but can anyone see him putting oviedo there or buying a lightening quick left winger and keep that philosophy from wigan? Or will he just keep our left side the way it is? Only he knows but what's your thoughts?

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Martenez won't break up partnerships of baines/peanuts and Mirallas/coleman's quality. I think he will add competition with an eye on the future.

One things for sure this maybe the most active window we've ever had if players like Johnny and Fellani leave. It could be 5, 6 or 7 players coming in! I just hope we get them in early so they get Preseason together.

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08 Jun 2013 18:56:27
Edd do u know if we r still interested in Honda? As I think he would be class 4 us {Ed025's Note - as far as i know..nothing has changed..

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08 Jun 2013 18:21:20
A little worried after hearing mirallas's comments on sky about him and fellaini. Hope he does stay.

Taysefc

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He does say some worrying things but if you look at the full quotes. He said, "I like playing in the premier league, it's the best league. I like playing for Everton. It's a new coach Martinez. welcome to Everton. Martinez is a good trainer, for me it’s very good as I speak Spanish and my Spanish is better than my English. "

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Its lazy journalism mate

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08 Jun 2013 17:09:20
Hey Ed, do you think Martinez will bring anyone with him from Wigan? If so, who? {Ed025's Note - 1 or 2 at the most mate, whoever he thinks will improve the squad..

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08 Jun 2013 17:02:32
I think there is a very good chance that RM will play 3 at the back, therefore if Heitinga goes (I don't want him to, I think he'll thrive in a back three. ) Then a new CB is essential, as we would only have 1 sub being Duffy and one player covering for 3 positions could be disastrous

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08 Jun 2013 16:00:17
Dont really want Fellaini to go, but being realistic we can't really move on if we don't sell him, we will get 22mill + Heitinga (3mill) + Gueye (1-2mill) + Whatever BK can give us (10mill) or so, that's 37mill would like to see Mertens (8mill) Strootman (11mill) Honda (5mill) Joel (3mill) Alcaraz (Free) Aubamayang (10mil) Can see 4th place next season! IMWT COYB NBTB! GarstonBlue

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Agree with the gist but we'd never get strootman and he'd cost 17m+ so swap for wanyama and fer for for 16m

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Sounds good
Howard
Coleman Jagielka Distin Baines
Mirallas Strootman Gibson Mertens
Honds
Aubameyang

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08 Jun 2013 15:32:49
I think this fellaini matters needs to be sorted asap along with anyone else who wants to leave. If with sales if felli left and what the board can come up with hopefully a fairly big kitty would be there for RM. This is what I personally would like to see happening. Bring in fer and mccarthy to replace felli. I see where someone mentioned jermain lens earlier. I have seen him play and he would be perfect power pace and can play anywhere along a front 3. Finally if the manager wants to play with a back 3 you need a really good ball play. Toby alderweireld would sort that. With those the team would look like this
howard
alderweireld, jagielka, distin
coleman, fer, gibson, mccarthy, baines
lens, mirrillas
Thoughts please?
bluepaddy

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Fantastic team tha

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Jags no good as centre of back 3. Great defender but awful with ball at his feet with time. Need a ball playing centre back, maybe Rodwell might have fitted the bill

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08 Jun 2013 15:29:32
Funny haven't heard from svenny or soloman since the manager was announced, seen a few replys were they back track on the fact the said vp was nailed on, had signed a contract, was due to be unveiled and acting as if he was about to be sued by everton for saying how he knows.

now is just they had talks, svenny there's no hiding would love to hear what you really think and so would others (I wanted Martinez any way so i'm not disappointed)

MikeDeBlue {Ed025's Note - svenny has posted a couple of times since mike.

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08 Jun 2013 14:52:43
ED what happened to my post about the rumour of a clearout? {Ed025's Note - never seen it robbie..

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08 Jun 2013 13:13:41
ed what happened to us? we were 21st in 07 and 08 and 24th in 09 for the most valuable teams? what's the reason for decline? and who are our real owners surely kenwright isn't? PKBLUE

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08 Jun 2013 13:51:53
Saw the words "David Moyes is ready to outbid Arsenal for the £40M rated Cesc Fabregas. " Got really excited for a few seconds before remembering he is Man U boss. If only ha

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08 Jun 2013 13:22:18
Anyone think we'll be seeing Darren Bent in our blue this coming season?

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What about Diame from West ham? played for RM at wigan and suppost to have a 3.5 mil release clause

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08 Jun 2013 12:51:28
I see Jags saying he excited by RM appointment and that a lot of players will be on edge. There is going to be some players that RM likes more than DM did and some he doesn't. I think maybe Barkley maybe Junior might get more favored by RM but Anichebe and this may cause a few disagreements but Coleman might not he more direct with pace and would not say he is best passing footballer in possession I not slagging Coleman off I like the lad and was one of the ones saying last year give him a chance and he has showed and has improved his defending. I just saying some players who may have been in the first 11 last season may not now.

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In the nicest possible way; b******* to this.

He will adore Coleman.

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Too right you can't slag coleman off his position is nailed on after his performances the last 6 months, most improved in the team by far

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As I said I not slagging him off I am just saying some players won't be as comfortable playing a different style and being asked to do different jobs.

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08 Jun 2013 12:50:05
Would those complaining about Fellaini having a release clause in his renewed contract rather have let him run down his old contract and left for nothing or for a (almost certainly low) tribunal-decided fee depending on his age at the time? He turned 25 last November and I think the key age is 24. Anyone actually know the rules?
Belgian-Bunn

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We can't get a tribunal as we didn't bring him up as a youngster.

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As I see it there is no need to have a clause in the contract or for him to leave at end of contract. When his contract was being negotiated if he didn't sign then he gets sold at that point ie when 18 months left on the contract don't let the player call the shots and let his contract run down either sign or go.

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If I remember rightly when we were renegotiating Fellaini's contract we were playing really poorly and struggling so we couldn't afford to sell him at that time, so him having the clause in his contract was the right thing to do.

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08 Jun 2013 12:49:12
Alcaraz would be a good signing because then any heitinga money can go to other more important areas LW/ST and Duffy will become 3rd choice CB COYB IMWT

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Whyn should duffy become third choice, it's about time for him to step up, or if not careful our talented youngsters will want to go.
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08 Jun 2013 11:50:44
I haven't posted for a while but have still been reading the posts.
Would it be fair to say our transfer budget must be about £15m this window? plus player sales.
I can see us selling Heitinga (£3m) possibly Gueye (£1m) and maybe Fellaini (£23m) which if he goes I just hope its soon so we plan our transfers knowing exactly how much RM has to spend and what areas to strengthen.
I think RM will be a huge boost to Jelavic and we will see the real Jelavic next season.
I am really excited about next season going into a new era and it will be interesting over the next few weeks who we going to sign.
I was gutted when DM went to MU and I not embarrassed to say it was emotional day seeing the lap of honour last game of the season with a sense of what could have been if DM had the financial backing at the right times. We can't dwell on the past and what if's? I am a believer of things happening for a reason and look at the positives DM has given us stability maybe hard work can only get you so far so as evertonians we can only hope that with the work ethic drilled into the squad and the fresh approach of RM letting the players express themselves we can go on to the next level.
So anyway with a transfer budget of maybe £42m (I hope football manager 2014 gives Everton that budget because easy win league 1st season lol).
GK young back up.
Its sounds like Alcaraz will replace Heitinga but depends what system we play if we need another CB.
2 x CM if Fellaini does go.
1 x ST Benteke or Lukaku would do nice.

But I believe it all depends on what system we play if we play with wingbacks then KM can play just off striker or play 3 attackers.

So I suppose we can all speculate what players will arrive as its a rumours site but what system does everyone think we will play as this dictates what players.

3-5-2
Howard
Jags Alcaraz Distin
Coleman Baines
Gibson CM
Mirrallas
Jelavic ST

3-4-3
Howard
Jags Alcaraz Distin
Coleman Gibson CM Baines
Mirralas Jelavic AW

4-3-3
Howard
Coleman Jags Distin Baines
Barkley Gibson Pienaar
Mirrallas Jelavic AW


What do people think of our chances of David Villa?

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If only it was this simple in the real world of modern professional football.

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3-4-3 or 4-3-3 Honda would be a good signing to play LW/AM but generally agree with what you say though benteke/lukaku isn't going to happen

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Oh and villa less realistic then benteke/lukaku

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I think it may be more of a 4231
Howard
Coleman Distin/CB jags Baines
Gibson CM
Mirallas CAM Pienaar
Jelavic/ ST

No idea who in those positions though

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I think I'm the only person who doesn't want Alcaraz or any Wigan player for that matter

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08 Jun 2013 11:39:50
I wouldn't mind getting Mark Schwarzer as a back up keeper to Howard, just been released by Fulham.

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That's it - bring in a "young" player for our ageing squad.

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Might want too much money just to sit on the bench

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08 Jun 2013 13:23:49
Finally! Someone has a bit of sense and posts a free agent who is actually good instead of carlton cole and arshavin. i'm a big fan of schwarzer however I feel he is actually better than howard but I believe we need a young back up keeper to challenge howard instead of an old one to challenege him for a year but schwarzer is still a great keeper and I wouldn't mind him

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I agree that Schwarzer is a good keeper but from what I've heard he wants to be a 1st choice still

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Spot on with this post. I rate schwarzer and he would be real competition for Howard without the price tag and high wages.

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08 Jun 2013 10:43:45
Am I the one that really doesn't want us to sell Fellaini? I don't see why everyone wants to get rid of him so much.

We were so close to securing that final Champions League spot last season so it means that the current team we have is very strong. I'd say that all we need is 2/3 (with the funds I reckon we have) players who can add that little more for us to push into the 4th (plus a couple of squad players). We were unlucky last year as too many draws, stupid conceded goals and shoddy refereeing decisions cost us.

I see a lot of people on here saying to sell Fellaini, Heitinga and use the money we have to then go and by 5-8 new players that will suddenly go straight into the first team, which just wouldn't work as it would disrupt the current flow of the team.

For me, I love Fellaini for what he offers; ball control, wins everything, etc. and not once has he ever said that he wants to leave, so why should we sell him?

Cheers,

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I'd like to hold on to him too Dan, if possible. With a new manager coming in we should be looking to keep a relatively settled squad without too much disruption.
We should certainly be looking to keep our best player. But if his clause is met, then there's isn't an awful lot we can do about it. Whoever negotiated it should be flogged through the street live on sly sports. I'm sure they'd be up for it. {Ed025's Note - i would like to watch that mate..

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Dandan - most people are under the impression that we're going to sell Fellaini so they're adding it to their posts. Also we've proved we can win matches without him. The money that would be generated from selling him would be a massive boost to EFC.
I'm on the fence with this one, as I can see positives for both selling and keeping.

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I agree, I would much rather keep Fellaini, but would not be surprised if he left. I think that any decision to leave would be his and would not be forced upon him by the club.

I think that many supporters feel that we need to sell to generate funds for prospective purchases, but I have a sneaking suspicion that adequate funds are available without the need to sell our prized assets to our main competitors ( ie, Arsenal ).

Shropshire Blue.

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I agree with everything you've just said and really don't want him to leave either, but he has said he wants to be at a club in the champions league next season on more than one occasion.

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I agree with you Dandan that I would rather keep Fellaini and keep buildng our team. I just think peoples opinion is he is one of our saleable assets that if left that money could improve our team with possibly 3 players and yes he was outstanding early season and he my sons favorite player but he can go missing and sulk or has had disciplinary problems, I know he hasn't said he wants to go now but he has in the past made comments when on international duty and it just a feeling that if a offer comes in from a champions league team he will go. (I also don't agree with players having clauses in their contracts and hope EFC don't do it again it shows no loyalty and basically says if I don't get what I want then sod you I'm going goodbye) Rodwell was sold to city I wish we could have kept him even though he injury prone he could still come good but it was for the good of the team and we got Mirrallas in who is arguably better.

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It's not about as wanting to sell Fellaini or not as the fact is we have no choice if someone comes in and activates his get out clause.

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I think people want to sell him because he is too inconsistent & he can be very lazy. However we all know that on his day, Fellaini is unplayable, but unfortunatly, he didn't have many of his days last season.

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08 Jun 2013 07:43:26
At the sort of money being talked about 22-24 then don't mind if felli stays or leaves

That's about his value

What would have been a nightmare was if he'd run his contract down a year or so ago

He's a good player for us - not sure if he'd fit with champs league teams though

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08 Jun 2013 08:49:08
If he was smart he'd extend his contract by a year, stay with us for the world cup.
Reason being he is an important part of the Belgium team his place is not in doubt, if he stays with us he will play less games up to the world cup as we have no European games. If he goes to Chelsea or Arsenal he will be exhausted come the World Cup.
He has a good world cup his price will rocket.

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08 Jun 2013 00:22:27
If we sell Fellaini to the Kopites of London, and sell one or two others like Gueye and Heitinga. I would like to see us use the money to try and sign Benteke and Strootman. This is in addition to other signings which are targets that don't depend on us selling anyone!

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08 Jun 2013 08:33:54
I would love Benteke too mate but Champions league is beckoning him, probably Arsenal bound

Degsy

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07 Jun 2013 23:55:26
Over the last 5 yrs under moyes we have drawn 10+ games each season. I think we can almost guarantee that under Martinez we will draw less games, hopefully turning a greater proportion into wins and thus maybe a 5th or 4th spot?!

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To finish 4th Everton would need to finish above Spurs and Arsenal, any neutral would tell you that ain't going to happen. {Ed025's Note - why not?

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07 Jun 2013 23:44:10
Yet another day of. please no wigan players. every day its wigan this and wigan that. does any1 know 100% that mccarthy or mcmanaman would be terrible players for us. 2 players don't make a team. but there are hundreds of players all over the world to sign. yet RM worked with those 2 players and as manager if he thinks they are good enough to improve the team he gets my vote. how many other prem teams sign a player from a club just relegated from prem and they do fine. if any1 can do a better job contact the club. i'm sure when you name 6 players worth 10 to 20 million apiece then i'm sure the club will go out and buy em and put us in further deby

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