Everton Banter Archive June 08 2012

08 Jun 2012 21:53:51
From the two matches today the player that stood out was Alan dzagoev (the guy who scored two goals for Russia). He plays for cksa Moscow, is 21 years old and is a CAM who can play RM. wouldn't mind him at everton eh lads.
Blue kaz {Ed025's Note - his price has just trebled kaz..

He is a £15m player, whey too big for us

Arshavin pulled the strings for me..
We should have bought him yrs ago...
The Blue Don

Arshavin was arse for Arsenal for the past twelve months, certainly looked good though

Degsybaldy

08 Jun 2012 21:04:43
Sell:
Mucha - £750k
Yobo - £2.5m
Anichebe - £2.5m
Cahill - £2.5m (sadly the time has come)
Silva - £600k
Wallace - £400k

Buy:
J.Lewis - Free
D.Simpson - £2.5m
S.Pienaar - £4m
M.Fernandes - Free
S.Naismith - £2m
H.Rodellega - Free

Team next season:

Howard
Simpson Jagielka Heitinga Baines
Gibson Fernandes
Naismith Fellaini Pienaar
Jelavic

Options on the bench:

Lewis, Hibbert, Distin, Duffy, Garbutt, Bidwell, Neville, Coleman, Rodwell, Gueye, Osman, Barkley, Junior, Rodellega, Vellios, Baxter.

This team/squad could easily push for a top 6 position, and maybe with a top quality loan deal in january push into the top 4, giving Moyes money to spend and strenghten for 2013 and therefore able to keep all our big stars... {Ed025's Note - good work mate..

08 Jun 2012 20:36:47
How much would holtby cost if we got him would that rule us out of getting pienarr and Naismith {Ed025's Note - he would cost in the region of £7m..

08 Jun 2012 18:47:41
In.
Pienaar
Naismith
Rodallega

Out.
Yobo
Anichebe

Decent summer!

Blueboy1989

08 Jun 2012 17:02:45
Could this realisticly be our team next season ed's?

Howard
Naughton Jagielka Heitinga Baines

Naismith Rodwell Gibson Pienaar

Fellaini
Jelavic {Ed025's Note - thats a good side mate..

I really like the look of that team! For me it is realistic aswell Naughton is free isn't he? Naismith 2 million and Pienaar hopefully 4 million surely we can generate 6 million to get them two

08 Jun 2012 16:08:19
Perfect Summer:
Out
Anichebe 5m

In
Pienaar 4m
Holtby 4m
Błaszczykowski 5m


Reality: sell Baines and Fellaini and replace them with Wayne bridge and Diame

Reality

Anichebe 5 million, try 2 million

Degsybaldy

Anichebe 5 million!!!!! {Ed025's Note - turkish lira?

5 million yen, maybe but 5 million pounds?

ToffeeTony

08 Jun 2012 14:45:00
Hearing strong rumours from good sources that Pienaar will join on loan again this season because Spurs are asking for too much and Moyes will not pay 5 millplus for a 30 year old, he will join on loan because he will refuse to play for Spurs giving them no choice but to allow him to move on loan.
This is ridiculous, why doesn't harry just accept a decent price i think 3 million is really fair

I think a loan deal would be good as it would free up what little money we have for other players. {Ed025's Note - fair point..

I think he will join on loan with a set buy price at the end
Joe EFC

I dont think it will be a loan, if pienaar refuses to play, they will prob just put him in reserves, hawy wont let him come again free after he played do well

toffeeblue

If it is a loan it will probably be a fee paying loan so awwy wont be able to recall him either

ToffeeAL

08 Jun 2012 13:29:13
Degzy got this image of you in my head,....you look like Karl pilckington,...you no the guy from person abroad,am I on the money degz,....ed25, gordon brown,...wiz of osman,Harry potter,....big c,.buster bloodvesel,...tp,.the grinch,...andy the chef,..gorden Ramsey,".............tristen {Ed025's Note - im more of a george clooney..

I reckon tristen looks like the copper from the village people!

Blue Bones

Not far off Tris, lol

Degsy

I reckon Tristen looks like the guy out of the goonies, the one who is locked up in chains who loves sweets.............

TC {Ed025's Note - sloth...lol

What do you think i look like ;)

toffee haz {Ed025's Note - ill go for a omar shariff lookalike..

I reckon tristen looks like a louie spence!

Bobcat {Ed025's Note - ill buy into that bobcat..

I reckon Tristan has three testicles, one tit, four nipples and four large bum holes

Degsybaldy {Ed025's Note - that sounds like...a hermaphrodite bowling ball..

The kids tell me I'm somewhere between Homer Simpson and Unclle Fester, the big part of big c comes from being over 6 foot tall not a lardy

Big C

The kids got me down as a Homer too Big C, just a five foot eight version though kidder

I get compared to joey essex :|

I dont dress or act like the sod though nnooo bloody way, like to think im actually masculine haha.

ToffeeJack

08 Jun 2012 12:57:42
I am an avid reader and occasional writer on this site. All this talk about Fellaini being linked with Chelsea, City etc. There now seems to be an uproar amongst fellow evertonians (and rightly so!). If i remember rightly around November/December when we were playing sh*te most weeks, there were a lot people criticising Fellaini and wanting to get shot of him. Are we basing our opinions on the last 15 games of the season?

I for one am a huge fan of his and i would be gutted if he left. But and a Big BUT, he can be incredibly lazy, casual and un-workmanlike in a lot of games. One of his best ever performances for us was against City the season before last! Absolutely awesome, completely run the show. If he plays like that most weeks he is the £20-25m player that the media says he is. If he doesn't ! are there better options out there?? Answers on a postcard....

Alastair

Load of crap that mate have a look who covered the most ground last season then u will change your opinion of felli

Try and read what i wrote mate. Read it word by word and then it might sink in.

I was posing a couple of questions for debate.

For the record i think he has the potential to be one of the best midfielders in the league and would build the team round him.

Alastair

I have my friend but he not lazy stats dont lie

Sorry Alastair but that is total rubbish what you just put.Fellaini worked his butt off last season and i cant remember people wanting to get rid of him,he is loved by the fans and everyone at the club.Terry blue

To be fair - before january trf window he was looking quite slow and uninspired - play was passing him by - he was always 10 yards away from ball whenever they had it - even if he was slowly jogging around - since January he's been a different player - he's well up for it now - those of us complaining about him were complaining about the pre-Jan player not the post Jan player - he does look good now - fair play to the fella - that was all we wanted though - to see him busting a gut and getting involved - centre mids can't slack off - maybe he needed a boot up the backside or maybe he was frustrated by the team around him - but once those decent signingswere made in Jan he's really kicked on :)

Fair enough gents.
Was merely trying to start a friendly debate about one of our players.

Alastair

Thank you to the previous poster...the exact point i was trying to get at.

I totally agree with your point about the team not playing well probably didn't help him before January. Gibbo in particular has complimented him nicely in the middle.

Alastair

Maybe he looked bad because the team was bad overall

Any1 who thinks felly is or was not good enough need to open there narrow mind, its not all about scoring goals or assists for me he has always had it u just need to look harder just coz he looks slow, he tackles ppl from like 10 yards away lol tall ppl tend to look a little slower coz there legs dont move as fast, bigger strides tho lol for me he has always been class

08 Jun 2012 11:32:32
what kind of player is lewis holtby?

It says he's a midfielder on wiki and I read somewhere that he 'can' play on the wing - but what's his best position and strength?

He seems to be putting out strong 'come and get me' signals to Everton

His best position i think is CM, either as holding mid or CAM. But i hear he is also good on the wings. He's a versatile player and we all know Moyes loves them.
Blue kaz

When he first started he was a winger but this season Schalke have been playing him centrally

And we're not short in the centre mid area - I think we need a specialist right winger and a someone 'in the hole' - if he's gona play Felli in the hole then maybe this guy goes in with Gibson? But (we also have Rodwell/Barkely don't we for centre mids)
How is rodwell coming along - anyone heard? {Ed025's Note - still injured mate...persistant hamstring

08 Jun 2012 10:20:15
Too many people on here still ranting about Kenwright and the lack of money spent on transfer fees.
When most of the money is spent on players wages and we have some of the lowest priced season tickets in the premiership.

Sit down do the maths and it is simple

1 Players take less money in wages or
2 we pay more for the season tickets


Also do you really want this club, our club to be taken over by some Rich person with no real feel or passion for it.
Do not the lessons of Portsmouth, leeds, etc make you just realise just how lucky me are.

Don't get me wrong i would love BK to pour more money into the pot, but would you pay more to watch and will the players take out less to play each week.

Lets remember that the so called top 4/5 clubs are up to their eyeballs in debt in reality.


I love our club because it is in my heart and my soul and i trust in BK and DM to do the best they can with what they have.

I think BK gets a bit of a rough ride, there are other people on the board with hundreds of millions more than him and why the F**K dont they put money in. He may be asking for 150 million but is that him asking or is he getting his orders from elsewhere.

Degsy

I totally agree with this post, yes it would be great to have a £20-£30 million pound tranfer fund but BK loves the club and will only ever do his best for the club.

(wishful thinking)
When the top 4 sides all get banned from Europe for over spending next season we could be in the Champions Leauge lol :))

If hes such a big fan why is he asking 7 times what he paid greedy

Open your eyes lad. We are in debt too in case you haven't noticed, with not an asset to cash in on ... why ? cause BK sold em all.

Our only assets are our players which he continues to sell the best of year in year out, when Moyes goes we are up $**t creek without a paddle.

And has he actually 'paid' anything - isn't what he paid showing as a loan on the balance sheet?
So he's owed the money he put in? Like shares?
And now his asset is worth 150mil - when he paid 30m ? SO why not spend 10m on giving Moyes a decent chance of champs league - we're so close to having a realy good team it would be a shame if we missed the opportunity for the sake of 10mil {Ed025's Note - it would mate..

08 Jun 2012 09:53:44
everton will not be selling Fellaini. only one player has actually been sold against our will since Rooney and I feel that one was probably played to suit us anyway. lazy corporate journalists will continue to unsettle anyone who isn't at a rich club. this is a wealthy happy player guaranteed first team football and probably as a result a first team place in the next world cup in a decent side, the problem is made worse by Evertonians who engaage with this story by speculating on what the money could get us as if they have shares in the club. lets pretend we are getting rodwell and barkley for 10 million each and enjoy watching Fellaini, until recently the best kept secret in premiership and irreplaceable even at 26 million.

08 Jun 2012 02:05:06
OK Ed can you riddle me this:

1) Henderson and Carroll = 42M Baines and Fellaini = 40M, The more you think about it the worse it sounds, so then try this

2) Baines and Fellaini = 30M plus a couple decent subs, is this as dumb or even dumber than #1 above?

Ok I find this to be a more interesting question

3) In few more years would you rather have Carroll (back from rehab) and Henderson or Rodwell and Barkley?

We are a few shrewd buys away from moving into some exclusive territory in the EPL Table.

Come On BK
COYB (always)

Big Bald Blue {Ed025's Note - some good points there baldy...and i agree mate, a couple of new faces, and the passport workers will be working overtime next year..

Barkley and Rodders everytime for me too mate, good post

Little bald Degsy {Ed025's Note - seems like a lot of blues are follically challenged...it must be the stress of these transfer windows..

Henderson and Carroll cost them even more than that, I'm sure they bought Henderson for about 20mill and Carroll for 35mill, so 55mill for them 2 clowns and journalists are evaluating Felli and Baineso at 40mill combined?

Funny enough I started losing my hair when mike walker was in charge!?!?

Toffee ace

They can have Fellani's hair for 20 million.
Blue kaz

I had great hair 17 years ago, met the misses and it all started to go down hill from there

We do get stress from our team but it is good stress, eventually

Degsy

I can imagine you with a cracking perm Degsy!

Calm Down Calm Down! lol

Blue Bones {Ed025's Note - thats why he does,nt want felli to go....they are twins!!

08 Jun 2012 00:33:11
Eds Is as far as you know is the Naismith deal still on {Ed025's Note - as far as we know ...yes

08 Jun 2012 00:19:37
Baines will be in a deal WORTH £18m. This could be the popular 12m+Ji Sung Park or a possible £10m and Hernandez? Also rumours that Fellaini in a 20m deal. Probably £13m, Kalou and Lukaku on seasons loan!
JG

Keek. kalou isnt even a chelsea player anymore

Lets sell fellaini for 20. Mill when he has a minium. Buyout clause of 28mill. Some people believe everything in the papers, sad very sad. Oh by the way rooney is goin to sign for sunderland in exchange for wickham haha

How do we know what the buy-out figure is? However, he is worth at least £28m in today's market, especially if they are paying £32m for Hazard.