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07 Feb 2018 21:20:05
Guilherme siqueira is available on a free don't know why we don't snap him up until end of season.
07 Feb 2018 23:35:55
Why snap him up?
08 Feb 2018 10:19:27
Do we have any squad places left?
07 Feb 2018 21:26:10
{Ed's Note - we have posted a new article entitled, A view of the current Chelsea players from an older fan
07 Feb 2018 20:05:44
Any of us who actually think conte would come here need a serious reality check someone like Eddie howe we should go for if we get Rid of big Sam. We can't keep blaming managers the players need to shoulder some of the blame.
07 Feb 2018 23:46:11
Didn’t Eddie Howe return south from Burnley for personal/ family reasons? Why would he return north - even for a career opportunity such as Everton (the team he supported as a boy) ?
07 Feb 2018 18:26:38
Hey Ed 025 what's your view of a few of the rags saying the majority of Everton Fans would take Conte if we sack Big Sam, surely there's a lot better managers out there than him!
{Ed025's Note - i would take him like a shot GB, mind you i would take tom conte at this stage mate.. :)
07 Feb 2018 19:47:07
Theres is no way he would come here surely, I mean, he is upset with Chelseas transfer policy, i can't imagine he would be happy with ours for very long! If he were interested and available, he would be the best manager by a mile we could get. I mean, we had to hire Allardyce because none of the top managers want to be here.
{Ed002's Note - Zero chance.}
07 Feb 2018 19:52:34
Yeh Ed you could be right mate, but I reckon the powers that be will keep Sam as manager till the end of the season then appoint a new man, fingers x.
{Ed025's Note - i suspect your right mate..
07 Feb 2018 21:17:07
Unsy has turned down Oxford, I like that, he is a true Evertonian. Probably (speculation) also has ear to the ground and his recent tenure has taught lessons. I am talking about the Crystal Palace game and decisions resting on that result.
07 Feb 2018 19:23:06
Evra on a 6 month deal was a no brainer wer useless jus every team we play targeting martina for the rest of the season - feel sick.
07 Feb 2018 19:48:55
Agree, but that's the board not the manager, Rooney's mate so I think he would have come?
07 Feb 2018 20:53:39
Didn't he kick one of his own fans in the head?
Haven't we got enough nut jobs at the farm?
07 Feb 2018 20:31:08
Baines is back in training 10 days.
08 Feb 2018 06:27:44
Evra is a loose canon plus he is 36 and more interested in he s career on instagram.
07 Feb 2018 19:01:00
Pretty obvious that Alladyce doesn't like using the younger players. Lookman got off in my opinion as Walcott arrived. He must of thought after playing well against l'pool I must be getting a run in the team! He didn't get a look in, and I for one don't blame him for leaving. Biggest problem is not getting a left back. Mangala must have had one training session and was given his debut, and didn't look matchfit. Sure Garbutt was on the bench for the Leicester game but not for the Arsenal game. I just hope we get the points that we need to stay up, and then get rid of Alladyce. The club should have stayed with Unsworth until the end of the season. We would have seen better football than we are now.
08 Feb 2018 09:30:00
You're forgetting unsowrth got tonked in the games he managed and the players look uninterested in playing for him.
07 Feb 2018 14:56:54
Despite significant progress at the top of the club - new owner, new stadium on the way, money to spend - Everton are destined to be a 7th to 11th club for the forseeable future if they make good decisions, and a 14th to 17th if they do not.
There is one way out of this, and it isn't spending more than the top 6.
The youngsters.
In the last 2 years England's young national teams, U21,U20,U19,U17 have carried all before them, not only in Europe but also in the world. The best young players in the world ages 16 to 21 are in England, not Spain or Germany or Italy. Two teams dominated the number of players in those teams - Chelsea and Everton. The rest of Europe is scouting these players (see Lookman deal) . Everton should build its team around these players, in every way, they have done a great job in recruiting and coaching them. If carried through correctly why couldn't they become the best team in Europe, when they are 24 to 27 years old. Its too early to blood last year's whole U23 team (which won the league going away from City, Chelsea and Man U) , but point the whole club in that direction.
Pickford; Kenny and Robinson; Holgate and Keane (yes, he was dominant at England U23) ; Davies, Baningime, Connolly and Dowell; Lookman, Calvert-Lewin, Vlasic. That is where it should end up, take steps to get there. Supplement those players with experienced teachers with great attitudes - Rooney, Baines, even Jagielka as a back-up, Bolassie, maybe Gueye. But tell everyone where you are going directionally. Some players we have to keep for the time being - Walcott, Tosun, Sigurdsson, probably a left sided centre half. But those would be interim solutions, then nurture your talent, supplement your talent with similar aged players, to add chemistry and a dynamic to the team - so don't sign 26 year old Turkish centre forwards or French/ Congolese center halves - sign a Dembele from Celtic, or a Tierney if you have a gap in the team.
That means a lot of clear-out to create space in training and in games for these players. Robles, Stekelnberg, Cuca Martina, Williams, Garbutt, McCarthy, Besic, Schneiderlin, Klaassen, Niasse, plus Sandro, Mirallas, all have to go. That way Lookman will be dying to come back. and the players will progress - because Everton had 5 players in the England U20 World Cup winning team. if we had 5 players in 2022 World Cup winning team, we would be a top 4 club. This is our 1992. Not an opportunity to be missed.
07 Feb 2018 15:33:01
GB58 great post mate agree with nearly all I would keep Sandro though he has great potential. How brave would the club have to be to try your suggestion though.
07 Feb 2018 15:34:11
I think it’s a good point GB but to me the bigger issue is leadership, the structures in place at the club and how the club is looking to progress and, in doing so, getting the best out of these players.
It’s all well and good having a good core of young players but if there is no clear plan within the club hierarchy (board, DoF, manager) about what they are trying to achieve in the long term, how best to achieve that and everyone working towards those aims then we will unfortunately see most of these players stagnate at Everton and eventually move on to other clubs.
It seems there is a chronic whiff of short term thinking at the club at the moment which only does more harm in the long run (and in the here and now if this season is anything to go by) .
07 Feb 2018 17:37:36
Very constructive post mate. You maybe need to consider your league predictions though. Nothing in this world is guaranteed.
07 Feb 2018 21:22:47
They need 9 points. I could put my Grand Sons back line into this side and get the 9 points. What we lack is a decent DM to partner Gueye. I do wonder if Sam is aware that Jagielka was a DM and pretty good too. Having said that, with 9 points needed from 12 games why not give the U23's etc a chance.
08 Feb 2018 08:37:14
I tend to agree ducksflysouth. but being an Evertonian. how old are your Grand Sons team? May be worth a look.
07 Feb 2018 14:09:14
if indeed we do get rid of the gravy drinker in the summer, what do we reckon on howe? I know we've mentioned his name before with mixed review but he's getting Bournemouth playing again now unbeaten in a good number of games after a shaky spell and look safer from the drop than we do! dyche name also has to be there with an outside choice of fonseca.
07 Feb 2018 21:23:55
Fonseca for me. Howe would not come and Dyche would tell us where to stick it.
{Ed025's Note - i think howe and dyche would jump at the chance to manage us DFS..
07 Feb 2018 23:32:08
Howe would come. He is a childhood Evertonian isn't he?
07 Feb 2018 11:53:44
This Friday (9th February) , RB Leipzig's match is live (7:30pm) on BT Sport 3, so you might get to see Lookman play.
07 Feb 2018 21:25:21
Schalk v Wolfsburg.
07 Feb 2018 09:40:57
As far as I can determine, Everton have seven young players (some are currently out on loan) who will be classed as aged-over-21 this summer and will therefore have to be registered in the full 25-man squad at the end of the transfer window in order to be eligible for Premier League matches next season.
They are: Charsley, Dyson, Galloway, Henen, Hewelt, Holgate, and Williams J. Apologies if I've missed anyone else.
Which of these do you reckon will be registered in the 25-man aged-over-21 PL squad, which will leave the club on loan, which will leave permanently, and which will be consigned to our U23s? Other than Holgate, I'd reckon the jury is out on the other six I've mentioned.
By the way, other youngsters, like Davies, Dowell, Kenny, Lookman, Vlasic, etc., will still be classed as aged-under-21 this summer.
07 Feb 2018 13:09:25
Thanks for the information Bobby, don’t know why anyone would give a thumbs down for this. Holgate is a definitely in, not sure about the others but I believe Henen is well thought of so maybe he will be included in the 25.
07 Feb 2018 14:06:35
think the only ones to be considered there are obviously Holgate, but Williams has done well at Barnsley and the fact we've turned down permanent bids from them say to me he must be rated of a sort? Galloway will be shifted out either perm or loan.
07 Feb 2018 23:34:52
I would love to see Henen get some first team playing time before the end of the season. I was hoping that DU would have given him some time, but unfortunately that didn't happen.
07 Feb 2018 05:39:10
{Ed's Note - we have posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 7th February 2018
07 Feb 2018 08:12:41
Ed. Just a question about that deal for frosinone in italy. Wasnt non league ebbsfleet funded by crowd funding few years ago? i'm sure it was but maybe you know more.
{Ed002's Note - Frosinone is not really crowd funding - a financial company has put up a bond to hopefully secure the future of the club and the bond was open to any investors who wished to put money in. This is no different really to the bonds that secured Manchester United that were issued in 2010. Investors in such bonds are guaranteed a high return, typically annually.
The situation with Ebbsfleet was more like crowd-funding but soon died a death after the initial inertia.}
07 Feb 2018 09:11:40
Thanks ed.
{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}
07 Feb 2018 02:59:17
Although we've had the funds to pay big transfer fees in recent windows (and apparently still do) , it seems to me that it's the regulation about the size of the player wage bill (and how much we can increase it each year) that's a key issue.
I imagine that we could only bring in Tosun and Walcott because we first reduced the wage bill by moving several players out.
Restructuring the squad during the coming Summer will no doubt be subject to the same constraints. The problem will again surely be that, while we could probably afford the big transfer fees, the targeted players (and their agents! ) will want big wages to come to Everton - a club not in the Champions League, not in London, and clearly in transition on and off the field.
Do we -the fans - have the patience to accept that it will take time (maybe 5 years? ) and several transfer windows (because of financial rules) - plus time for our promising U18/ U23 players to develop and progress - before we are genuine and regular challengers?
07 Feb 2018 10:39:25
I do, I was hoping Koeman would be given at least 3 seasons to get us to a good place, but there you go. He may have been the right man for the job but we will never know now. I can see my beloved blues turning into a side that continually chop and change managers based on short term results due to pressure from impatient fans and the prospective loss of revenue. The Sam out brigade will just move on to the next manager (when we get one) as soon as they start loosing games without really looking at the big picture or long term direction of the club. We used to be a big club now we are a mediocre club with a great history in the game. We are no bigger than the likes of Leicester Stoke or even Bournemouth. If you forget about our remarkable history what have we actually done in the last 10 years that the majority of mid table PL sides haven't done practically nothing. I would like to see some stability brought back into the management, under Moyes we had stability and you can improve over time if you are on a stable footing as he proved. Impatience is killing our club. Oh and for all those who think SA is a fraud can you explain why? As I haven't actually seen a job description of what he was brought into do and as far as I am aware he has not publicly made a statement about what he will achieve while at the club.
07 Feb 2018 12:59:04
I have never called Sam a fraud, BUT some of the decisions and team selections he has made is the reason most people have negative posts about him. I was willing to give him a chance once he was appointed and give him the benefit of doubt. He will probably achieve what he was brought into do (keep us up) . He done really well at the beginning and has had not the easiest of situations with the unbalanced squad he inherited. I understand some of the things he has done ie not putting so much pressure on our youngsters.
Long term Sam is not the answer although I agree with the recent post about stability and stop the chopping and changing of our manager. We need to begin as soon as we are safe, identify our number 1 target who is available, appoint him ASAP, thank Sam for all he has done and move on for the long term. Sams football is negative fullbacks never push forward etc. Direct football at times is all well and good. If we have a golden generation of youngsters coming through and money to invest, moving into a new stadium I want the team to play attractive football and at the very least play with passion. Martinez possession attacking football with Moyes discipline and set piece drills.
07 Feb 2018 14:45:20
I am with you sa90. It does seem we Evertonians are split right down the middle. Ones who appreciated that Moyes was doing a great job . and since we have struggled and lost our continuity. Others thought he was too negative and are now saying the same about Allergy. I couldn't believe a poster earlier suggesting that Arsen Wenger was an example of how keeping a manager in for a long while does not work? 20 consecutive years in the top 4, numerous trophies and a team that went a whole season undefeated. And all the while clubs like Chelsea, Liverpool, Man Utd, Man City and Spurs chucking money at their respective teams in order to achieve Champions League qualification. Each one of those teams has failed to qualify during that 20 year period. But yes I guess we will have yet another change in the Summer without giving the guy a chance. I am not saying he is perfect. Nor am I saying all his decisions have been sound. However, to say that when he arrived he had an impact and since we see his true colours does not take into account the fixtures. When he first arrived we palyed teams around our level. Then we had a run against top 6 sides and other teams like WBA who have since proved that they can also battle out a win (ie at Anfield) . I fear for our club just as I did when Martinez was allowing the squad to age and relying on Lukaku and Barkley for goals. I was shouted down then and no doubt I will be shouted down again here. But I think the ability of some of Koeman's signings was over estimated. It says something when Niasse looks like one of your most productive players!
07 Feb 2018 15:44:41
Degsy. you just need to compare what those other teams have won compared to Arsenal. Chelsea, man u and city have titles, champs league and europa league trophies between them, not to mention the domestic cups they have won. All of them have been more successful than arsenal in recent times.
Take a minute to read the arsenal rumours posts and you will get an idea of how far behind, the fans think they have fallen.
Im sure Wenger supporters will, be happy with only winning 3 fa cups in the last 13 years despite what they have spent as i am sure you are.
07 Feb 2018 17:38:52
Your missing the point. The football (if you can call it that) is bloody awful, and the team selection is baffling. It is clear to anyone with a basic knowledge in football that this man is out of his depth.
07 Feb 2018 20:12:48
Personally, Walsh has been the biggest problem at the club. I think if Koeman had the ability to sign his own players he would have got a quality striker, left back and a left sided CB in. He moaned about it all summer but Walsh failed to deliver. Instead he 4 no 10's.
Moyes was a complete failure. He steadied the ship but never took us on to the next level. In 11 years he never looked like winning a trophy and was never a winner type manager. Managers who take chances and go only for the win, erm, win.
Sam is the in mentality but worse than Moyes in style play, slightly.
If we want this club to move forward we need risk takers with an arrogance and attitude that can put them same attributes into the team.
If I ever, ever, hear another Everton manager play down who we are as a club or say knife at a gun fight again I will run onto that pitch and punch him full in the face myself.
Moyes, Sam and the like are losers. They'll never win anything.
Conte, Wenger, Ferguson, Pep and Jose have an undying belief in their management, style and ability to get the best out of the players that success is always just around the corner. We need a manager with that same belief.
Otherwise we spend another 11 years with a manager who's a knife instead of a cannon ball like Jose.
07 Feb 2018 02:22:30
Koeman came to Everton because he was promised transfer funds, and he was paid a massive salary, and he saw it as a fixed-term (no more than three years) stepping-stone to his "destiny" (Barcelona) .
Who's to say that isn't exactly what appeals to Marco Silva (transfer funds and salary) or would appeal to Fonseca or Tuchel or whoever?
After the false-dawns of Martinez and Koeman - and the relegation-preventing appointment of Allardyce - surely the next manager has to be someone who has a five-year project to take the team forward, especially for the new stadium?
The question for me is: if that manager does do well and we do start making progress, what stops one of Europe's already established "elite" clubs taking him him before he fully completes his project at Everton?
One other thought: the first seasons of both Martinez's and Koeman's tenure (and to a lesser degree Allardyce's first few matches) were promising for Evertonians, but it didn't take long for the fanbase's loyalty and patience to be severely tested and eventually the toxic atmosphere forced the club's hand.
I fear that our fans' fragile morale wouldn't cope well with the inevitable ups-and-downs of a five-year project. Do we as a fanbase have the mental strength (we complain about the players' lack of that) to stick with what the club are doing even if it is slower than we expect and things aren't always rosy?
07 Feb 2018 06:57:24
I'd say a lot of the fan base would be patient if the right man is brought in and hits he ground running, Bobby. The problem with all 3 of the managers you mentioned is that they have been resolutely stubborn when the proverbial has hit the fan. Playing players out of position, not practicing set pieces etc. I also believe that the problems stem from behind the scenes and this needs to change asap. We have tried the DoF route, albeit with a chief scout in that role, and it doesn't seem to work. We should either get in someone who is experienced in the position or drop it all together and we may then see some progress.
07 Feb 2018 08:49:08
The fan base was patient when David Moyes was here. Unfortunately we didn’t have the finances at the time to take the next step.
Plus whisky nose turned Moyes head.
What might have been?
07 Feb 2018 09:19:59
Swansea unbeaten in last 8 games! Still in FA cup. We got the wrong manager. Seriously that manager has them playing good football. Alladyce just wants boring football. I would rather the team getting beaten if they were having a go!
07 Feb 2018 09:43:23
I do not believe that it is a binary choice: good football and lose or defensive rubbish that we call football only because there is a ball in the vicinity. Good football developed because it is winning football.
07 Feb 2018 10:58:57
Robbie I totally agree with you under Moyes we didn't have the finances and the fans were patient. I think if he had of had the funds then the patience may have evaporated. Some fans towards the end of his tenure were already saying he had taken us as far as he could and we needed a new manager.
07 Feb 2018 01:51:41
The 1960s was a different footballing era - so comparisons are highly subjective - but our then manager, Harry Catterick, managed to build a very good team that was a mix of youth and experience - players who'd come through the ranks supplemented by key signings.
The 1968 FA Cup Final team - that bar one or two changes went on to win the 1970 League title - comprised home-grown Wright, Labone, Hurst, Harvey, Husband and Royle (and Kenyon as sub) plus quality signings West, Wilson, Kendall, Ball and Morrissey.
For a man not averse to spending the club's money, Catterick certainly gave young players the chance in the first-team and reaped the benefits. Perhaps the fact that we had relatively competitive reserve team football (the Central League) back then - often playing against hardened professionals unlike today's U23 matches - was an important learning-curve for those young home-grown players?
As for the current loan system, that's no good if loanees to lower-tier clubs don't get game-time, but are only there to make up squad numbers.
Until we can find a way in English football to properly give players a better way to progress and develop from youth (U18, U21, U23) football into Premier League players - which is clearly a massive step-up - then I fear very few will come through the ranks and the PL clubs will continuing recruiting "ready made" experienced players to fill their squads.
The question for me is: does this really matter as long as there are funds to spend on transfers and as long as managers are under pressure to (firstly) stay in the PL and (secondly) to satisfy the owners' and fans' expectations for "Hollywood" football and Champions League qualification and trophies?
{Ed001's Note - I think you are spot on about the reserve team situation, it does not work to develop players right now.}
07 Feb 2018 08:14:21
Completely agree about reserve football but that then leads to the argument of following other countries and incorporating reserve team's in lower leagues.
07 Feb 2018 14:01:09
Unfortunately Geoff if we did that then eventually we would have six teams in the top of the premier league, United, City. Chelsea and their reserve teams.
07 Feb 2018 15:09:03
The “B” teams wouldn’t be allowed to get promoted above the 3rd tier (League 1) , but they could be relegated to the lower tiers. I’d also be in favour of the lower tiers being regionalised from League 1 downwards.
Also, the “B” teams wouldn’t be allowed in the FA Cup or League Cup, but they would be allowed in the Checkatrade Trophy.
It’s all academic anyway, as the lower-tier clubs won’t go for it - even if the “B” teams didn’t get any TV money or prize money and put all their gate money into a shared pool for the non-“B” teams. The PL clubs get enough TV money, etc., for their first teams.