Everton Banter Archive March 05 2015

 

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05 Mar 2015 23:22:04
Tragic thing ed is if we don't laugh at how bloody badly this shower of share holders
is running our club into the ground we would cry.
Shame on you gutless crew who sit in silence.
Go one nil down against Newcastle and you Will see what this club means to us (and we don't get a dividend).
Power to the Peoples Club!

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{Ed025's Note - im with you brother..

05 Mar 2015 23:04:33
Having contacted Everton Football Club Customer Care Dept ( waste of bloody time!)
Have this evening emailed Russian embassy suggesting
they attempt SAS style snatch squad tactics to grab Roberto
whilst in Kiev.
Use him as bargaining tool against western sanctions and release him unharmed when the seasons over.

Power to the People s Club!

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{Ed025's Note - i hope the SAS is ..Save Are Season mushy.. :)

05 Mar 2015 22:14:08
I dnt understand why em has not been sacked, and before anyone says it will cost money consider it will cost a hell ov a lot more if we go down. I am shocked bk has not axed him already

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{Ed025's Note - me too TB..

06 Mar 2015 07:45:17
They just need to take the compensation payment out of the summers transfer kitty. Should not be a big problem. Mirrallas transfer if he goes will cover it.

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05 Mar 2015 21:53:56
Am I the only one dreading how our remaining ten Premier League fixtures this season are being described as "ten cup finals" considering how our current players have done in real finals, semi-finals, and other "big" matches? Far better imho they treat each match as it comes and just concentrate on performing well - or at least getting the points - and don't get caught up in the occasion or the nervousness or worrying about the prospect of failure. Just be professional, do your jobs, trust each other, and do the right thing. As the saying goes about playing a game of cards, there's plenty of time to count your money when the dealing's done and you've left the table.

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{Ed025's Note - well said sid..

05 Mar 2015 21:42:18
Like the majority of bloggers and loyal supporters of our great club, I have offered constructive opinions on what is required to change our fortunes.
It. Is obvious, even if RM bothers to read what the 'people' in the People's Club' think or feel, he really doesn't care or take seriously our opinions.
Contrast his disdain for the heartbeat of the club with that of Brendan Rodgers who has come out in the tabloids this week explaining why he had to change his playing style and tactics otherwise he knew he would be sacked. He instigated the changes which resulted in LFC turning their season around and since the change are the form team in the PL.
The difference between RM and BR is that Brendan recognised the need and feared the consequences of not implementing changes to improve and importantly has the technical know how to successfully make the right change choice.
Unfortunately RM doesn't see the need for change and has continued to display his tactical ineptitude in his team selections, shape and tactics. As a result we are the non form team in the PL and are dangerously close to a relegation dog fight.
The excuses which are now being rolled out after every game is an indictment of his ability as a manager.
Our great club is in free fall and it is the responsibility of the B of D's to take the necessary actions to safeguard the future and not jeopardise our wonderful heritage.

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{Ed025's Note - i agree fancy mate..

05 Mar 2015 22:11:33
While an individual can be admired for sticking to their principles, I consider that to be in regard to personal morality and ethics and how they conduct themselves in their dealings with other people. I do NOT consider the refusal to adapt tactics, etc., to be anything principled, but rather it shows the intransigence, arrogance, ignorance - call it what you like - of an impoverished mind and the attitude of someone who does not (in my humble opinion) appreciate what is required to be an effective leader or what it means to recognise that a football club is a team - on and off the field - all of whom contribute to (and deeply care about) the club's reputation and success. Also, while I abhor any foul-mouthed & phobic criticism (although I understand the anger of others), I won't tolerate us being called bad Evertonians just because we strongly state our discontent with the club's current situation and our fear about the club's uncertain prospects.

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{Ed025's Note - great post sid..

05 Mar 2015 20:59:21
I am shocked that Kenwright, a true blue, has not reacted for months now to genuine supporters concerns. It's as if he is burying his head in the sand and hoping everything will be alright. He could be in for some severe stick if we fail against Newcastle. On the evidence I see there are a few worse sides than us but even they beat us for team spirit.
Remember watching some not great Everton sides including some in the 70's with the likes of Lyons, Darracott, Sargeant, Jones etc. None you could certainly class as great players, but they were certainly committed to the cause unlike many of today's squad. The most frustrating thing is that nearly all of our posters can see what is wrong and could pick a better first eleven week in week out.
By the way Ed when is Aiden our saviour due back?

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{Ed025's Note - probably soon knowing my luck tedster..

05 Mar 2015 21:34:28
Don't forget Ed, that bloody tandem ride offer still stands :(

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{Ed025's Note - book me in 247..

05 Mar 2015 20:59:00
If it were me it would be either Frank De Boer, Klinsmann, Klopp or Simeone. . but knowing Kenwright it'll most likely be McClaran or Stubbs!

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05 Mar 2015 21:34:14
Those names are great, Zackiii, but I just don't see how they would want to join us considering we're unlikely to have regular Champions League football, we haven't got a new stadium confirmed, and we don't have the finances to compete (or retain!) the best players. Besides, it's blatantly clear that the club's owners are toughing out the current situation and will stick with RM for this season and almost certainly next at least. If, after he's had three seasons - and several transfer windows - the club isn't making progress, then maybe, just maybe, there'll be a change, but, for now, the more the fans complain and agitate then the more entrenched (and tight lipped) BK and the board will become.

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05 Mar 2015 23:08:54
. add Bilic to my list of choices above too!

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05 Mar 2015 19:22:47
am changing my name

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{Ed025's Note - you need to mate..or you could end up in the stocks with him.. :)

05 Mar 2015 20:14:43
How about Robertosthemainproblem or Robertosabigfraud

Hmmm maybe Robertosonesheet :)

Anyway Rtmm you have my sympathy mate ;)

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05 Mar 2015 18:58:15
In the absence of any statment from the board, a football journalist shoule be camped outside Kenwrights house to door step him, in respect of everton's growing crisis. We are simply powerless to push the issues, but surley that is at least part of the job of the media, and sells papers, or bumps up ratings, win, win.

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{Ed025's Note - he only has to read the press JCW, even they are now saying we could get drawn into the mire mate..

05 Mar 2015 11:52:57
TO ED 25; On past form, you have the contacts to at least have an insight into what is happening in the corridors of power, at goodison. Based on what you hear from your contacts, is there any real appetite to be rid of Martinez?

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{Ed025's Note - i used to hear more when moyes was here JCW, i dont consider myself itk really, i do know he is well liked at boardroom level, but these are money people mate so if they believe relegation will hit them in the pocket(which it will) then his days are surely numbered...newcastle may be the catalyst, if we fail to beat them at home then i expect the knives to be out..

05 Mar 2015 20:10:21
I hope you are right Ed, my big fear is that RM has some Rasputin like mesmeric pull on these guys .

Omg please let me be wrong .

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05 Mar 2015 21:45:34
Ro, Ro, Roberto,
Maker of a broken dream,
There was a club that nearly was gone,
Ro, Ro, Roberto,
Football's greatest spin machine,
It was a shame how he carried on.

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06 Mar 2015 08:23:23
:-)nice one!

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06 Mar 2015 10:23:35
Lol Sid,

Now how can I get hold of Boney M's agent? :)

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05 Mar 2015 18:43:06
Another day, another defeat - and the silence from the club's owners is deafening, which is amazing since it's clearly a situation where "the band played on"! Loyalty - even misplaced confidence and hope - is usually admirable, but the road to damnation is paved with good intentions.
The match against Kiev might provide a brief respite, but the atmosphere against Newcastle - especially if we play poorly and/or we go behind - will be toxic. If we lose, then I expect the boos and jeers (not cheers!) to be resounding around Goodison. If that doesn't make clear to the board that the RM experiment is well and truly over - even after last season's promise - then nothing will in my humble opinion. I'd love us to win - I'd never want us to lose, whatever "positive" outcome that might lead to - but what does it take to make a cold-headed decision? Will it take relegation, financial disaster, and the consignment of our club to the lower divisions as yet another one who used to be "big", but are now languishing as a mere footnote in the record books?
Ho hum.
:-(

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05 Mar 2015 19:35:26
If BK is a real Evertonian and by that I mean an Evertonian that is genuinely worried about the consequences of hanging on to what is in many if not most people's view an impotent manager, who is hindering this campaign with the utmost
devastation looming.

A Wigan like scenario is now visibly on the horizon, so what kind of Evertonian would allow our beloved club to drift into this abyss?

I'll answer my own question, no real Evertonian would allow this if he/she had any kind of a power to stop it in its tracks .

My target for blame will be Kenwright and Co. if Martinez isn't sacked asap.

RM is just a tool but BK will be the bigger tool for all time!

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{Ed025's Note - fair point 247..

06 Mar 2015 05:34:10
a lot of wigan fans felt the same as there was a FB page dedicated to sack martinez from wigan.

http://goo.gl/UjDofz

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05 Mar 2015 18:01:38
Up until recently I have been a supporter of RM and I think one of the strongest points in his favour is that there is no one out there who will take over mid season.

So, genuine question, who realistically do we want to replace him? Prem experience like Laudrup or McClaren (if Derby don't come up)? Untried like Howe or Tuchel? Big name like Klinsmann or Blanc? Internal like Unsworth or Big Dunc? Or someone like Ragnick?

Personally for me the best candidate out there is Paul Clement at Madrid, or even the Porto boss Lopetegui. But who does everyone else realistically think we should get?

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05 Mar 2015 18:19:01
For me in order
1. Frank De Boer
2. Steve McClaren
3. Duncan Ferguson - also interim

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05 Mar 2015 18:21:47
Lambert anyone.had a poor time with villa but was given no support and inherited a crap squad.plus he knows the league.worth a shout for a few months??

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05 Mar 2015 18:43:14
1. De Boer
2. Bilic
3. Duncan Ferguson

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05 Mar 2015 19:11:04
We didn't learn our lesson when we took a loser in the shape of Martinez. He won the FA Cup - well done - but he took his Wigan side lower and lower during his time there and eventually got them relegated. I should have known better than to think he could do different with us - even with (on paper) better players.
Our previous managers might not have all worked out, but they all (as far as I can recall) had done well with limited resources elsewhere or had proved themselves winners at other clubs or had shown promise and potential. Why on Earth would we take on anyone with a record that includes releagtion or second-season syndrome or, at the very least, someone who hasn't shown the ability to improve a team year-on-year? I also can't see how BK would want - considering his belief in the people's club, and the DNA of the club, and the "family" atmosphere, and the wish for a manager to be responsible for the direction of the entire club (no director of football for us!) - a "foreign" manager who's only interested in the first team and wants a big transfer pot and doesn't "get" what it means to be an Evertonian. What the heck do I know?
Besides, the available managers are out-of-work for a reason - and why would those in work (and doing well where they are) want to leave and join us?

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05 Mar 2015 19:36:42
Today was a case in point about how anyone is sacrificed in order to perpetuate the Roberto myth. Jags one of those out of form is given a script to go bleat to ssn in the hope that we will swallow a second coming. After all our next 10 games come under the heading of 10 finals. Mind you wonder who we wheel out after Kiev and Newcastle.

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05 Mar 2015 17:59:26
If we win the Europa league and get relegated, are we still allowed into the champions league?

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05 Mar 2015 18:16:15
Yes. Unless Liverpool don't qualify and make a claim for the rules to be changed after the event so that they get the place - probably because they're in the same city and they play in red which is considered lucky by the Asian fans that are sought by UEFA and because they are backed by the forces of the darkside. Bitter - moi? ;-)

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05 Mar 2015 17:48:46
Regarding the pre-match and post-match comments by RM and the players, I'd say the following.
No one wants anyone bad-mouthing the club - such as some players do when angling for a move - and nor do we want anyone saying "we're doomed". However, all of the positivity and good intentions and appreciation of the situation and stating the obvious about what we need to do are wearing thin for me. In my humble opinion - and notwithstanding any appetite by fans for all information, and the official requirements of UEFA and the Premier League to face the media - RM and the players should shut up and only speak when we've played well, actually won a match, and picked up some points. Won't happen of course - they'll be expected to appear before the cameras & microphones spouting platitudes and excuses and wishful thinking and all of the BS we've come to despise.
Ho hum.
:-(

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05 Mar 2015 17:17:47
well everyone it looks like we're stuck with bobby for another 10 days or so. it is inevitable he will be sacked, its just a case of how much damage he does in the time he has left. I think as supporters between now and next wed night we should get our frustration and annoyance out. Come next thursday morning we need to stop until after the newcastle game. This is a massive week for our great club. We all know this tosser isn good enough but we must back the boys during the next week if we lose against newcastle I am up for a protest but let's back our boys first. bobby can walk away in may. we cant. Come on blues let's be havin it. let's not let a complete idiot stop us b.eing Everton

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05 Mar 2015 17:56:08
I don't think it's inevitable that he will be sacked. BK is not that type of chairman. He stood by moyes after his second season that nearly ended in relegation, so why do you think it will be different this time round? Does anyone think that he can turn it round with another season under his belt? And I don't mean in the championship! I can't see us going down, but I can't see BK sacking him either.

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05 Mar 2015 18:17:59
I do think its inevitable lee, its just a case of when that worries me. At this rate it'll be when we are bottom of the league in november. We're lucky that there are some rubbish teams this year. We might not be so lucky next year. And no there is no way bobby can turn it round or he would have done somethin a little different by now

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05 Mar 2015 16:47:08
.various betting sites now stongly tipping Martinez to be sacked with M. Laudrup favourite to replace him. hooooooray!!! At last some good news!

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05 Mar 2015 17:03:49
That doesn't mean that the bookies know anything or that they are Predicting what will happen. It just reflects the number of bets being placed and the market odds are being adjusted so that they make money whatever the outcome. The job of the bookie is to make money and it's us - the mug punters in the market - whose bets determine what odds the bookies decide to offer. Anything else is the bookies drumming up interest so that they get as much money as possible.

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05 Mar 2015 17:05:10
Laudrup replacing Martinez? Do you remember Laudruo's second season? Talk about out of the frying pan into the fire!

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05 Mar 2015 16:32:41
First time poster. I wasnt keen on Martinez in the first place but after last season I obviously warmed to him. Up until last night I was more for him staying but not now. Every team can beat us as thet know what to expect and how were going to play. We have no width and are effectively play 7 defdnders as 3 of the team play as defensive midfielders. Lukaku needs support and Barry needs to play sunday league with Howard, there nearly eligible for ove 35s now. We are Everton and RM knows what it means to us so he should be making the changes that suit the team and not him. We are not playing in Spain were in the fastest league in the world were tippy tappy doesn't work unless u go forward. If u wanna play spanish football I suggest u take charge of a spanish team. Not many managers out there but maybe Sean Dyche or Neil Adkins. If looking abroad possibly Villas Boas but atm my choice is Dyche. I also wanted Moyes to stey and I hope we can realise now what he did for us, but it looks like RM is going to ruin 10 years of work. Oh and Allez Allez Allez oh no what is it going to take for him to leave

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05 Mar 2015 16:30:21
Has Barkley got fitness problems? sluggish runs, he looks shattered. Can't see anybody paying big money for him in the summer, the new Jack Rodwell.

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05 Mar 2015 17:23:50
Alan:

Yep Barkley has lost his mojo for sure!

and he is not alone, Baines, Coleman, Lukaku et al .

The Mojo slayer is hard at it, continuing with his modus operandi

So he's not a difficult culprit to identify.

Like a slug he always leaves a slimy trail! :(

Elementary my dear Kenwright .

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05 Mar 2015 17:30:35
I think that most of our players have fitness problems. It's the only explanation for why they're unable to perform like last season - that and RM being found out tactically and motivation-wise this season.
It could be general speed, stamina and strength issues, and/or it could be niggling injuries that never clear up, and/or chronic bio-mechanical problems that lead to hamstring problems and such like, and/or it's players being brought back too soon from major injuries. I wonder if players are substituted because they're not properly fit for an entire match rather than any tactical master stroke by RM. Why else would our most effective players not be playing all the time every match? Likewise, is our play restricted because of players being not fully fit - say like Coleman not surging forward because McCarthy can't cover for him?
But, of course, RM knows best about all football matters - technical, tactical, medical, psychological, etc., etc. - so who are we to question him? He reckons we're not allowed to say we don't "enjoy" what we're seeing this season and we prefer seeing attacking, expansive, exciting, winning football rather than "parasite" football. We are accused of being disloyal - and not true Evertonians - if we don't meekly and unquestionably accept the tripe that RM is dishing up on and off the field. Instead he soft-soaps the fans - who are, especially away from home, magnificent - by telling us (a captive audience that has nowhere else to go - we're addicted to Everton) that our support is vital. Well, what's really vital are the victories and points that we still need to stay in the Premier League. Until BK and the board make the change, it's up to RM to get the players to deliver those results and points. Unfortunately, there's not many of us - if any - who belive that he can.
Ho hum.
:-(

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05 Mar 2015 16:14:38
We are going to get relegated but win europa league, called it.

reckon we can get Sir Alex to take over for the rest of the season?

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05 Mar 2015 16:56:42
Firstly why the 'F' would Evertonians want him at the club?
Secondly why would he want to come?

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05 Mar 2015 18:33:14
It was rhetorical. The point is we need a manager that has been a proven winner through his career

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05 Mar 2015 16:09:06
So RM is blaming fatigue for our problems. Fair enough I say, but if that is the case, surely the older players in the squad should be rotated and the younger ones play more games because their fitness should be better. So why does he always pick Barry and rest Besic? Or at the 70 minute stage leave Barry on and take Besic off?

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05 Mar 2015 15:51:03
If there's one thing that would give everyone a lift - players/staff/fans alike, it would be if someone else took the reigns, I'm quite sure Duncan Ferguson would jump at the chance to steer us to safety even as just interim manager, call me a believer but given those cercumstanses I'm sure it'd be a full house against Newcastle and we'd get those much needed 3 points, I'm saying the Newcastle game as that's the next home game in the competition that counts.

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05 Mar 2015 15:22:42
It must be bad if even I'm wanting RM to go! I'm normally ridiculously patient, but not now.
I'm assuming everyone has gone onto social media to see what can be done? I'm only on twitter but have tweeted the official club page with my views, (don't know if they'll be read but it's better than doing nowt!) I found what I think is the genuine Bill Kenwright page but that hasn't been used for a long time.
I'm sure the club must keep abreast of sites like this & social media, so we've got to keep trying.

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05 Mar 2015 14:33:00
I'd have Moyes back in a heartbeat but let's be honest it wouldn't be a good move. How about Stubbs and Big Dunc? Martinez has to go soon because if he doesn't we are doomed.Please Bill see some sense and get rid!!

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05 Mar 2015 18:04:23
I would still have Mark Hughes, it just depends, who is the bigger club in his eyes, Stoke or Everton. I have to admit though I am getting pretty nervous.

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05 Mar 2015 14:03:44
It's 2:00 o'clock. & still he's not been sacked.what the hell is the goon in charge of our beloved club playing at? This is not acceptable!

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05 Mar 2015 15:10:52
It's now 3.10pm & still there mate hard to believe really

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05 Mar 2015 16:33:57
No change at 4.32!

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05 Mar 2015 13:33:05
so Jags has now come out with;

"The fans were great (against Stoke). It has been a difficult season to watch us because the performances have not been as good as last season, " he said.
"They are going to vent their frustrations, it is normally the manager that gets it as he is head of the food chain.
"But we as players know we need to buck our ideas up, start performing better and take pressure off him, pressure off ourselves and start getting some more points."

firstly its not been as good as the last seven seasons! and how do you all intend to change things? isn't this what we have heard after the last few games!
Only Actions can speak louder and that just isn't happening just excuses!
please give us our Everton back!

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05 Mar 2015 13:09:04
I'm kind of glad we haven't got a game this weekend, I honestly don't think I could handle another 90 minutes of watching that pile of rubbish again so soon.
It'll be nice to have a weekend away from the stress of being an Evertonian and suffering at the hands of the spanish fool.

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05 Mar 2015 15:23:38
Couldn't agree more I'm completely stressed out thinking abt it & will be happy to have a free weekend away from it all.Never thought I'd say that because I love the club to bits but it's getting to be more of a chore watching this season instead of enjoying the free flowing footy played with pace power & style last season.
Job to put your finger on it but they just haven't performed simple as.
Jags body language not good as he walked off down the tunnel @ end of the Stoke game.
He looked dejected & deflated as if he knows what's coming but he as club capt will have to rally the troops to go again for the final 10 games to save our great club from being a laughing stock.
If they thought they were to good to be dragged into a dog fight then they need to look again because the alarm bells are ringing loud & clear.

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05 Mar 2015 11:49:59
I know it probably won't happen but I think naisy needs to be made captain for the rest of the season at least he shows what it means to pull on the everton shirt and at least gives a toss. What does everybody think

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05 Mar 2015 12:27:37
not a bad shout!

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05 Mar 2015 13:05:50
i think the first half of the season Naismith ws outstanding and by far our best player, but unfortunately his form has severely dipped since christmas, maybe he should b given a rest, he is a workhorse, but isn't creating much lately, not on top of his game at the minute

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05 Mar 2015 15:04:43
No wonder his performance has dropped, there is only him who seems to want to play and fight for us oh and Ozzie

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05 Mar 2015 11:33:31
Hello guys this is my first post but the anger has taken me and I needed to vent it, I know this is a drastic action but do we need a demonstration at all the games to get this clown out before its to late. or is it already to late

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05 Mar 2015 12:24:42
Hello Billy :)

Welcome, the cyber coffee is in the corner along with the stronger cyber drinks and as you will see, they need topping up!

The cyber swear box has been replaced and we now have cyber sick buckets :(

Oh and we currently have a rolling contract with Kleenex tissues so feel free to sob away with the rest of us;)

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05 Mar 2015 12:58:00
We need Bill to come out and state that we are sticking with Martinez

He will then be sacked within 2 weeks, always happens with the kiss of death

come on Bill give us the good news

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05 Mar 2015 11:16:38
so now in his interviews RM is blaming fatigue, players legs not up to it, to many games, EL travelling blah blah blah!
FFS what do they train for and aspire to! no one has heard Chels, Arse, Spuds, Citeh etc moaning and giving lame excuses some have played even more games!

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05 Mar 2015 12:01:30
It's pathetic Wakka isn't it?

We've had all of the excuses now, bad luck, ref's, tiredness, parasite teams etc. etc. It is time he took a look in the mirror and saw the real problem!

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05 Mar 2015 12:23:12
Wedgewood it is 'The Buck stops here Bob' you are in command and your decisions have been flawed in terms of team selection and playing style, you need to sort it out or BK needs to get shot and bring someone in to stabilise the sinking ship!

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05 Mar 2015 12:59:17
I posted on this a while back, fatigue, seriously, 2 matches a week, here you go 50 grand

they have no idea whatsoever

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05 Mar 2015 13:03:55
It'll be like that persil ad from the 80's next wakka, the one were the kids football team are getting roasted by the coach after losing again and one of them pipes up 'but it's these shirts coach, they're too itchy'

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05 Mar 2015 13:14:22
Anyone thinks Moyes is having a chuckle now!

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05 Mar 2015 11:10:07
to get message through to Kenwright if he has not acted beforehand is at next home Premier game, think Newcastle, if a goal is conceded all fans stand up and face away from the pitch for few minutes.

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05 Mar 2015 11:55:27
It is not how we do things. But if nothing has been done by the board up to now then I fear nothing will be done. It does beg the question though just what he has to do to lose his job.

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05 Mar 2015 13:00:03
get knocked out of the Europa cup Dunc, he will be gone then mate

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05 Mar 2015 10:18:49
I am going to bed now in Australia and when I wake up in the morning, Martinez must be sacked. If not my marriage might not be able to see the end of the season. My wife can't understand why I am going Mental. She says I'm crazy. If he is not sacked, someone should organise a demonstration asking for his head or next game give him the Paolo Di Canio treatment he copped from the Sunderland fans. Win lose or draw!

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05 Mar 2015 10:14:42
I would not normally advocate this, but desperate measures are needed, we have to change the keeper totally out of form, JR did nothing wrong in the games he played in. In midfield every game there are changes, but one player always starts and imho dose'nt deserve a start GB. If Lukaku and Naismith don't score nobody is scoring, for me we need two strikers to try and get us out of this mess, I know it's drastic but what have we to lose, try a couple of kids maybe up front Henen or Long they can't be any worse than RL and AK. Mr Martinez can't keep the same out of form players playing the same way, not winning any games, were in a mess and it needs drastic action or were down.

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05 Mar 2015 09:53:33
More stats from me: Howard NO clean sheets in last 11 games. Joel 3 clean sheets out of 4 then dropped. Mirallas top scorer in Greek league when Moyes brought him in. Our 2nd high scorer in last couple of seasons. Has scored 53 goals in last 132 games. That is more than 1 in 3 games. McGeady 12 goals in 103 games. That is 1 in 9. Lennon 27 goals in 305 games. Less than 1 in 10.
It is obvious to me that we are losing some football games. That is because the other team scores more goals than we do. I wonder if RM has considered picking a goalkeeper who seems to be in better form than the other one? I also wonder if he has considered that one "winger" is head and shoulders above the other two that he keeps rotating? Instant answer: Mirallas must play when fit. Joel in goal next game. and yes I would pick Osman too because he averages 1 goal in 8 games. Then maybe we will score more goals than the other team.

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05 Mar 2015 10:22:14
That, Degs is a top post.

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05 Mar 2015 11:13:30
he always picks his 'mates' Howard & Barry whatever!

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05 Mar 2015 09:46:32
Well it seems that the Emperor Nero continues to fiddle while Rome burns! quite simply BK - you are doing nothing while everything under your control collapses!

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05 Mar 2015 09:26:07
Not going to speak about that debacle last night cause i'l only work myself up again!!

Anyhow we all love our club far too much to speak with our feet at games and now more than ever the players need our support!!
However how about we all start wearing black to the home games to show exactly how fed uo we are!! if we could get enough then we'll make headlines!!

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05 Mar 2015 09:15:55
I wonder how many 'proper' Evertonians are left for Bobby now?

A proper Evertonian is one that simple agrees Martinez is doing a phenomenal job and the players are playing with phenomenal intensity.

A proper Evertonian is not one that points out that this guy is completely lost with players showing disharmony and dissent.

A proper Evertonian is someone that doesn't believe where we are in the league table is a true reflection of our performances in which we showed a real intensity and a phenomenal attitude which deserved more out the game.

A phenomenal and intense, proper Evertonian believes we will turn it around in the next game even though there is nothing to turn around according to Martinez.

An intense, phenomenal, Proper Evertonian will intensely also believe Barry walks on water, Mcgeady dances on twinkling stars, Besic is injured when he starts running faster, Mirrallas wrote the words to R.E.S.P.E.C.T for his love of Evertonians and if Barry walks on water then Lukaku pi**es the water he walks on.

In reality Mr Martinez.

Evertonians will back their team and the club in good times and bad.

Evertonians will vent frustration and anger like any other human being on the planet without it meaning they are not a PROPER Evertonian.

Evertonians understand when a manager is losing the backing of the team.

Evertonians know when a manager has run out of ideas.

Evertonians know when a manager is out of his depth and a job is too big for him.

Evertonians know it's time for a change
and a manager who can stop a rot that if it continues will sink this ship. A phenomenon not seen since 1950-51.

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05 Mar 2015 10:07:45
That was an incredible post BlueJohnUns. Quite incredible. I see where your desire, intensity and ambition comes from.

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05 Mar 2015 10:26:28
Great post BJU, you just put my feelings into words.

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05 Mar 2015 10:40:16
And, of course, how can the players "enjoy" their football if we fans are just "parasites"?
How much longer do we have to tolerate the party line where BK holds RM in awe as a "cult" hero? Most fans would misspell that description - changing just one letter, but for the sake of decency I won't in this post.

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05 Mar 2015 08:49:34
I find all this Euro cup business hard to stomach. Game after game Martinez is using tiredness as one of excuses. The club should know before committing to a Euro campaign that a lot of travel is involved. The player are not good enough or strong enough in numbers to embark on a successful campaign so why make it a priority.
The Premiership is the priority, the bread and butter. If we cannot make progress in home competitions eg FA cup and League cup, why persue the Euro. I am sure most of the fans would prefer a successful FA or League cup run with a day out at Wembley with the kids than the Euro . I see it as nothing more than an ego trip for Martinezs cv.
If league performance like this is acceptable in order to satisfy a good Euro run to the board, then I am afraid they have got their priorities wrong.
The order of priorities is :- Premiership high placing, FA cup success, League cup success, then look at Euro progress.
Finally, if tiredness is a real problem and not a convenient excuse, why have fresh players sat on the bench and not used on rotation. Also the players are highly paid professionals who should be able to adapt to all situations instead of just taking the pay packet. In civvy street most of them, manager and coaches are not doing what they get paid for and would be sacked with NO COMPENSATION. As an interim manager Duncan Ferguson would not be my choice.

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05 Mar 2015 10:43:12
It used to be said that there are "lies, damn lies, and statistics".
Well, as far as RM's Premier League utterances go this season it's "lies, damn lies, and excuses"!

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05 Mar 2015 08:40:41
Well it's the morning after being beat by a parasite club, what is it now 1 win in 12?
What do us fans get - usual spin from Martinez and support for him from Kenwright, the club is a shambles!

Listen to the fans before it's too late

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05 Mar 2015 10:49:40
The only sound heard above the deafening silence from our club's owners is that of the Western sage-brush blowing across the ghost town that will be Goodison Park if (when) RM completes the task he's proved himself eminently qualified for - and one that Agent Johnson almost completed back in the 1990s - that of relegating our club, bringing about financial disaster, and jeopardising our very existence.

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05 Mar 2015 08:32:37
Another horrendous 90 minutes passes us by with a familiar result at the end. We are rapidly running out of games to keep this proud record of top flight football. What has gone so drastically wrong with the team? Practically the same squad as last year when we played without fear and took games to the opposition. I'm tired of second guessing what the root cause is, the silence is deafening from any member of the board, let alone Bill K. The only mouthpiece that talks to us is the very man that the majority have now turned on. The man who tries to convince us all that we have seen a different game to himself, the man who could write a book of excuses.
Enough is enough. This squad has lost direction, many talented players now look like they would struggle in the local leagues. They are devoid of confidence which has been evident for most of this season. It's infuriating that the club seem to believe that we are not in a relegation battle when us fans fear just that. No team is too good to go down, we are not too good to go down. We might be lucky that there could be 3 worse teams than us this year but nothing should be left to chance. The run we are on is shocking and, with others fighting for their lives, a six point gap could soon be cut. For that reason, coupled with our boring 'philosophy'of backwards passing, I believe change is required. RM has taken us as far as he can and should be relieved of his duties immediately. His reluctance to change his system, when we can all see that it isn't working, is the annoying part. If he was as astute as he wants us to believe then he would not be afraid to try other systems, to play to the players strengths. Across the park, their manager was struggling to get results with his own philosophy. So he tweaked it a bit, rather than stubbornly state he would not change, and he managed to turn it around. My point is that RM is not adaptable but that is a trait the top managers need to succeed in our league. RM, sadly, is not a top manager, he has been found out. It is time the board wake up and smell the chang, if they do not act immediately then it could be too late. We need to take control of our fate now otherwise trips to Bolton or Brighton will await next season.

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05 Mar 2015 09:28:41
the problem is a few things

1-injuries (weve had alot)
2- transfer windows- we needed at least 7 players in summer
3- europa - we always struggle domestically when were in it
4- squad- is the oldest in premiership
5- the players
6- the manager (clueless)

the players have been below par this year coleman and baines look shadows of there former selves, barry to old, howard awful should never of been put back in goals after joels superb run,

going on last nights evidence the players I can tell don't want to play for martinez and I see why he's clueless, playing players out position, keeping players in the team when consistently awful its poor management, am a footie coach myself and if a player hasn't been playing well for numerous games a wee quiet word and he's dropped, ie howard baines barry

28 points from 28 games is awful - anyone says were moaners and stick with martinez needs a slap were in trouble and martinez is going to go down as leading two consecutive clubs to relegation in the space of 2 years, he needs booted simple

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05 Mar 2015 10:04:50
What scares me spudv is the fact that we had a squad of some value. We had players that all the "top 4" were courting. Come the end of this season, we will have players who are just past it or have limited time left: Distin, Alcaraz, Kone, Barry, Pienaar, Osman and maybe a couple of others. We got rid of Anichebe (stupid in my opinion) replacing him with Kone. We brought Barry in on a 3 year deal?? Moyes had a policy of bringing young players into the club. RM seems to have reversed this for short term gain (last season). and that is now going horribly wrong. At the end of this season, players like Mirallas and Coleman will be targeted by other more successful clubs. I am not sure they will have the desire to stay with us even if we survive the drop. We will not be offered anywhere near what their value was last season. Then we will have to bring in probably 8 or 9 new players. I put 2 posts on last year and was absolutely slated for suggesting this and accused of being negative even by ED025. I feel so frustrated that I saw this coming and what is worse, I see bigger problems ahead because of this rapidly ageing squad. Admittedly, I live in Devon so only get up for 1st team games and I don't know what our youth teams are like, but that is the only way I see us surviving.

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05 Mar 2015 08:09:42
It's said Mr downright is very loyal so Martinez has little to worry about the only people he seems to forget are the most loyal fans in the country we sell out are away allocation all the time.and still he refusers to listen to us.so in my opinion it's time to look to him for leadership and for once listen to thousands of LOYAL supporters.I will not be holding my breath.

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05 Mar 2015 07:56:00
Time for a change. If all it takes is to tell Bill in the first 20 seconds I'll get you in the champions league to get our job. I can do that in the first 10 seconds. So give it here Bill. I'll crack some heads and tell em some home truths. Then play positive fast attacking exciting football . Mix it up between passing and direct play. And we will win because our players are good enough. Anyway I'll turn this Fifa 15 off and go work for a 12 hour shift. Hey Roberto I might be tired to because it's my 4th one of the week lol JOKE

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05 Mar 2015 07:41:30
I have stuck by roberto as much as I could but now things are not getting any better we really need to change things. But I don't think the likes of joe royal or any of the other names what have been mentioned can do any better at this point of the season so I think it would take a world class boss to do it and I just can't see any of them men wanting to come an re-float our sinking ship.

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05 Mar 2015 07:30:58
So you had a dream,
to build a football team,
we gave you money,
but still we can't win at home,
we mess about at the back,
we're crap in attack,
Bobby Martinez you need to be sacked

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05 Mar 2015 02:59:32
Just had a though. let's all do the euro millions. Maybe one of us could win an pay bobby off!!

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05 Mar 2015 10:14:56
Pay him for putting us through this shambles?

I'd be making a call to Putin to hire one of his 'fixers' first. Damn site cheaper I'd bet.

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05 Mar 2015 01:09:08
Well it's now nearly 4 hours gone since another debacle, and the deluded one is still in charge. It is like the bad old days of Gordon Lee, Mike Walker and Walter Smith, but at least those sides showed some fight. In over 55 years of watching I've never seen such gutless performances as now. Some of our so called stars are not fit to wear the shirt. Something needs doing, and very quickly. Please Mr Kenwright listen to the thousand like those again tonight who have turned up, and the thousands sitting at home and sack the arrogant incompetent fool.

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05 Mar 2015 00:56:18
Thanks ed
For very angry blues tonight ring EFC customer care 0871 663 1878
Be polite, the guys and girls manning the phone lines Will be be on minimum
wage but block the phone lines until the board and Kenwright get the message.
You as a customer are dissatisfied with the product!
Power to the People!

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{Ed025's Note - i like a bit of wolfie smith mushy..

05 Mar 2015 07:38:45
Isnt that a premium rate number? Bill will be able to give RM a rise with all the extra cash generated.

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05 Mar 2015 00:44:14
Why is this bum, still in post?

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{Ed025's Note - search me JCW..

05 Mar 2015 00:35:15
'The Everton travelling fans were amazing' says RM.
Yes they always are lad and Will be more amazing when you s@d off and we get somebody in to run the club who knows what they're doing.
Its 12.30 and still nothing from Kenwright!

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04 Mar 2015 23:43:48
Hi blues. Well last time I posted about the manager was in January. Its March now we are playin no better. In fact we are worse. Slightly glossed over by beatin a bad European side who play more open than us. When we were a threatening attacking force last season we had 2 wide players with the 2 best attacking full backs bombing past them. It stretched teams. But this 1 winger style is stifling us down 1 side. Making us over play ie pass pass pass. But that's basic that this manager doesn't see. To me he's great when things are good but when you need to grind out results at both ends of the table he is WEAK and clueless. Be a Nan Bill say goodbye bobby

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04 Mar 2015 23:43:31
Martinez broken another record haven't lost to stoke home and away since the 60s lol.
Relegation form all day every day championship here we come Martinez out.Kenwright needs to act now b4 it's 2 late.
Martinez interview still coming out with same old shit.Going down going down going down don't know were next goal is coming from let alone a victory.
We can't keep a clean sheet & can't score & don't know how 2 win games so easy 4 Stoke just shows wot a laughing stock we've become.Were hovering 6 pts only above trap door season can't end quickly enough 4 me been shocking in the league.
Hendo across the park the new captain, Ross who?.

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04 Mar 2015 23:35:56
Ive had enough of this now. I was one of the fans tonight shouting at martinez to leave our club I noticed he didn't do the applause to the crowd on the way off the pitch tonight. He knows he is not wanted here anymore. He knows his so called philosophy is flawed. He knows he is out of his depth. But he can lie and talk nonsence in the press conderences over and over again. What an absolute joke of a manager.

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04 Mar 2015 23:22:17
This is so disappointing, I hoped that we could challenge for champions league this season but at this rate we will be in the championship. Not good enough at all but what can us supporters do? It's down to the board, the manager, and the players. I'm also sick of reading about how "we will be better next time" to be served up the same rubbish week in week out. Something has got to change, surely? We can only hope.

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04 Mar 2015 23:17:58
Crystal palace have already sacked their manager they are 2 points ahead of us in the league, the players are in need of a kick up the arse, focus & clear direction
Am sorry but Martinez must go before our next league game!!
In fact am not sorry at all we are not Wigan get out before it's too late

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