Everton Banter Archive June 05 2013

05 Jun 2013 22:59:58
I am probably speaking for a large quantity of evertonians in saying that I will not be overly dissapointed if Fellaini was too leave, ok so he is probably the most naturally talented player we have had since Rooney but in my opinion if he fetches 20m+ I'd let him leave as he deserves a big break as well as he won't put in effort if he isn't playing for the shirt; in my opinion, keeping Baines, Mirralas and Barkley is 100x more important as they are the players who will make Everton great.

Say we sell Felli for 20 million with that I would buy:
Goalkeeper: al habsi? 2-3million great competition
CB: only if heitinga leaves, Dragovic
CM: any of Fer, De Guzman or McCarthy - deployed mainly as a CDM in a 4231 formation
CAM: Honda is ideal however Mcmanaman isn't a bad choice
ST: again going to Wigan, Kone is decent, cheap option however players like Negredo, out of our league but may be intrigued cause ofthe prem

If there is any pennies left over I'd ask Blackpool to name their price for Ince or Phillips both top class young players

xDWJ {Ed003's Note - you honestly think you could get them players for £20m ?}

Fer is going to napoli with the fat spanish waitor

Al Habsi - always on the highlights reel, either for saving or losing the game. Not what you need as back-up. Better to go after a 24 y. o with potential happy to push for a spot over the next year.

Having McManaman as a happy replacement for not getting Honda is a laugh. Would be happy to have them both but to say one is the next option after the first falls through?

05 Jun 2013 23:43:08
Ed, today I heard a snippet about us being intresting in the young Brazilian Bernard, you heard anything Ed?

05 Jun 2013 23:53:38
wanted by real madrid barcelona psg monaco bayern munich I doubt we would get him

Benard, you mean the player touted the next ronaldihno, ye were at the front of the none of the usual suspects have realised ha

05 Jun 2013 22:25:08
Would anyone take Hernandez from Man U for £14 mil? I know I would!

BitterBlue

He'd get in my team. jlaff

Yes he is a natural goal scorer

05 Jun 2013 22:36:53
Not worth paying 14m for someone who doesn't score when he starts and only scores off the bench may aswell have adam le fondre as hernandez is no different

Would bag 16+ goals if started 1st choice for us, imo. I'd still love it and still hope that Jelavic can rediscover himself though

Not for 14m, maybe 6 or 7

Player that offers pace and movement up front (which we don't have), that comes with big game experience, still young enough to continue developing and would have a sell-on value. SOLD

Who else would you pick up better for 14Mn except for risky youngsters.

He may score more regularly off the bench but always respect a player that can continually score without regular game time.

05 Jun 2013 21:56:18
Arshavin, Denilson and Squillaci are all leaving Arsenal, could we strike? Wouldn't mind Arshavin?!

JG

I would!

They're all terible

Too old,
And I should know. {Ed025's Note - like it mate..

05 Jun 2013 21:32:45
I have to say, I really think we may have the right man here. You could see in his press conference that Martinez really couldn't hold in the excitement of being manager of our fantastic club. From what I have heard, he is a football nut! Constantly watching games day in day out and is really passionate about his job. All I have to say is welcome to Everton Robbie, I will support you as I supported Moyes, through thick and thin. Here's to Champions League football next season.

BitterBlue

05 Jun 2013 20:56:00
Why would we be interested in McManaman as we have Mirallas and I'm pretty sure not one Evertonian thinks that's a good swap.

As for McCarthy, I'd want a big player to come in at CM and make an impact. Get James in to make up the numbers but he ain't going to set the world alight, ever. We need another centre back to add to Jags, Sylvain and Duffy (this guy needs a chance) and a striker. Please don't mention Kone.

Sell Heitinger, Anichebe and either Baines or Fellani. It might sound crazy but preferably Baines as I think Oveido has potential plus Coleman for me last season was better and would compensate the loss (SC Gm 26 Gls 0 Ass 5 - LB Gm 38 Gls 5 Ass 5 EPL).

I would love to see Finnbogason who is only 24 and has been a goal machine in Holland. Tricky with good control plays off the shoulder well plus they don't get injured in Holland, made of sterner stuff.

05 Jun 2013 21:36:40
Yes sell baines as he's awful I mean not like he got in the team of the year or created more chances than the likes of silva, xavi, iniesta, messi, ozil is it? Its not like he's any go. Are you on something? he's the best left back in the world and selling him would be stupid so you would rather we kept heitinga and sold baines. wow you are an idi*t and who said we have to swap mirallas for mcmanaman? Mcmanaman can play on the left wing and pienaar is getting on now so a replacement would be nice and mccarthy would be a great signing and would get in our team any day he's better than osman at practically everything ed please post this i'm not being abusive or anything its just posts like this are so stupid

Completly agree with Blueskittles.

Was with you all the way till the Baines bit. Don't make us weaker to make others stronger.

I know and as I said it sounds crazy but if we need to raise funds to strengthen then I'd rather sacrifice Baines.

Central Midfield is such an important area and is such an expensive area to buy for that I would rather replace Baines.

No matter what he ain't getting £20 or £30 mil from Kenwright so he may have to raise funds and if you want a good striker, CB and another Centre Mid then I'd rather sell Baines.

Agree with blueskittle other than I think Mirallas' future might not be on the RW for us, so that might fit McManaman in. Totally agree on the rest mind.

Just a quicky though Blueskittle. Mcmanaman is not a naturally left sided player and would not see this as a place you would play him every week and why waste the money on someone who won't budge Peanuts or Kev next season.

I said sell Heitinger AS WELL as Baines and would think Cm and up front as more important than the left back.

Also chances created are not as important as assists to goals and per game Coleman was better.

But you misunderstand i'm not saying we wouldn't be weaker without him I'm saying I'd rather have a Striker scoring 20 goals than a left back with 5. Don't get me wrong if RM gets £30m to buy a striker great keep him otherwise how do you expect to buy one?

06 Jun 2013 00:04:04
By selling liabilities like heitinga and our central midfield is fine and mccarthy would add to that are you forgetting john lundstram and barkley will likely get more time on the pitch next year as they approach their 20s and baines is irreplaceable baines should not be sacrificed and chances created can lead to goals like an assist for an assist plus another left back could lead to us conceding more goals if we sold baines i'd rather sell fellaini for 24m buy a striker and central midfield than sell baines buy a central midfielder or striker for 10m and 10m will not buy us a top striker plus if we sell baines and get 10m that leaves a problem we have no left back and yes you could give it to oviedo and then there is no cover if pienaar or mirallas get injured and I don't know about you but naismith has hardly set the world alight here so again i'd rather keep baines and get another 4 or 5 great years out of him and sell a young fellaini for over 20m and have enough to buy multiple players and selling baines would not allow us to do any significant business in the transfer market except make us weaker and Manchester United or which ever team he went to stronger and that is when we will decline

06 Jun 2013 00:06:15
And mcmanaman could learn to play there he seems good with both feet and could adapt or push kevin to the left and put mcmanaman on the right

Oh and one more thing. As for McCarthy better than osman. Games 43 goals 8 assists 2 McCarthy games 50 goals 3 assists 2. Know your facts before writing one of your own off. Who's the person now.

Your only problem with that blue skittle is that oviedo is bout 10 levels below baines at the moment

06 Jun 2013 08:25:40
I know he is 10 levels below baines maybe even more so that is why we must keep baines and those stats yeah I mean osman plays for everton mccarthy plays for WIGAN he would have better players around him and mccarthy is more of a box to box midfielder osman juat gets outmuscled all the time futher up the pitch and has no pace to keep up with an attacker so yes you are still the idi*t and think about what teams they play for before judging them

05 Jun 2013 20:24:04
welcome to everton roberto a great manager at the best club in the world onwards and upwards from here on. a lot has been made of the relegation of wigan last year well wasn't hawwy wedknap relegated, twice if memory serves, that didn't stop him getting spuds into CL and for all those who wanted VP (me included!) remember juande ramos! time to get behind RM and help push the team on after all we are the most important part of this club.

ed have you heard from mushy yet or has he thrown himself into the mersey!! {Ed025's Note - i wish.. :)

06 Jun 2013 09:23:53
Oh very unkind ed!
No just listening, a lot of excitement around isn't there?
PS: I actually posted a congratulations to RM yesterday but not put up, he decent man and now because he is NOW EFC boss will get my full support.
Oh and one of me arm bands got a puncture.

05 Jun 2013 20:04:56
I just hope BK is able to get some investment to back our new manager

05 Jun 2013 19:51:08
Waited a long time see the man get the job. This guy is miles better than Moyes. Watch us go now blues. Happy days. Markyg

05 Jun 2013 19:25:23
Just had a text off a mate who is a Wigan season ticket holder.
"Feel sorry for you mate with the Martinez appointment. We have had 4 years of watching his relegation football and only playing for the last six weeks of the season. Glad to see the back of him cause he has no idea how to set up a team to defend so I think you will be in for a long hard season. :- ("
Lets hope he is wrong, I don't think going back to Wigan for players would be a good marker to lay down early though. Like to think we are in a different class to them.
Anyway, moving on, time to back roberto! Coyb's!

What you pal is failing to mention is that Wigan could not buy a nod or attra t the calibre of player everton has. and any that did turn good we're sold to bigger clubs. no disrespect to Wigan but we are a bigger club with better players. It may have been the case that pep guardiola could not have done better with that squad. Jlaff

05 Jun 2013 18:59:05
Roberto Martinez is the new manager, FACT

All Evertonians should support him 100%, FACT

End of

05 Jun 2013 18:30:01
Should have a go at getting Arshavin on a free

05 Jun 2013 21:28:30
NO! Why does everyone think we should sign free agents just because there free? He would want 100k per week he's lost his pace is very very lazy and is overweight basically a left wing version of anderson from Manchester United i'm guessing you want chris brunt, sebastian squillaci, richard dunne and lichaj aswell?

05 Jun 2013 18:28:02
What are everyone's view on Denilson? He's just been released by Arsenal, has quite a lot of European experience and is relatively young! I think he'd be worth giving a chance. what you think Ed?

EtidAaron

05 Jun 2013 19:50:16
no has an attitude and thinks he is bigger than the club would rather have arshavin and he's crap too

He's been released for a reason he's not very good.

Why do you think he's been released by arsenal? one word, sh*te

He's awful and will go back to brazil

05 Jun 2013 17:57:11
Welcome to everton Roberto. Just listened to the press conference on radio city and thought he and bill done very well. I honestly think he will do well at Everton. So the main objective Roberto is simple Europe. No pressure :)
you will feel right at home at our great club.

Andy

Andy, talk is cheap, get ready for "Time to Gel" and "How we couldn't be ourselves" and all the "good moments"

05 Jun 2013 17:34:43
Welcome to Everton Football Club Roberto Martinez! Will take EFC to the next level I think. IMWT

Hear hear

05 Jun 2013 17:24:38
I've seen a lot of negative comments about RM winning percentage at Wigan over the past couple years but what do you think DM winning percentage would've been with the same squad? Keeping them up for so long is a great accomplishment and he deserves the opportunity.

Christian

05 Jun 2013 17:19:11
Ed, what's your opinion on Martinez? PrestonBlue {Ed025's Note - i think he will do very well mate..

05 Jun 2013 17:08:03
So I wonder how much Bill is giving RM as stated in the press conference, And I wonder witch parts of the team he would like to stregthen or change.

mine would be

------ Howard ------
coleman Jags Duffy Baines

Super Kev gibbo Felli Pieman

Barkley

Jelly


and that would be a good platform
Not much change and with a nice younger look to it.

Plus and Buys to make the Bench stronger

Only problem with that team mate, is that there's 12 players in it! lol

Blue Dazzle

Pmsl. My bad! I read Super and Kev as 2 seperate names! Sorry mate, been a LONG day!
Nice looking team though.

Blue Dazzle

My other team would be

-------------Howard--------------
--------duffy--Jags--distan--------
Coleman---------------------Baines
-----------Gibbo---Felli------------
-------------Pieman--------------
-------Kev------------Jelly--------

That one shapes up really well, but for me (dont shoot me now!), I think Naismith would suit the central role where you've put pienaar. Ossie would sit ok there aswell. Good options all round though, especially if martinez will use some more of the youth!

Blue Dazzle

Inseat of having pieman, playing tougher teams you could put big vic up top and kev behind, or but having pieman there with a free roll to do what ever, I think he plays his best, if not put Barkley there, he's good enough and strong enough to hol it up and play a pass

GK: Howard RWB: Coleman RCB: Stones CB: Jagielka LCB: Distin LWB: Baines RCM: Gibson LCM: Fellaini RW: Mirallas LW: mcmanaman St: Henandez

05 Jun 2013 16:52:49
I think Martinez. Needs to talk to captain jags and ask him about the players more {Ed025's Note - more?..

05 Jun 2013 16:42:23
Now I would like to wish Roberto Martinez a warm welcome to the soul of English football that is Everton FC, were legends are made.

fortuna omnia habeas in te proiectus eget magna

which in latin like are motto says
may you have all the luck thrown upon you at this great club

100% behind him and EFC, and if no others are stop supporting EFC
steblue69

Welcome to everton roberto. your chairman at Wigan was a crackpot. so you, ll be use to workin under lunatics. I' think it's a good appointmenT just wish bk had kept the champions league comment under his belt. time and a place

05 Jun 2013 16:40:40
Now I would like to wish Roberto Martinez a warm welcome to the soul of English football that is Everton FC, were legends are made.

fortuna omnia habeas in te proiectus eget magna

which in latin like are motto says
may you have all the luck thrown upon you at this great club

100% behind him and EFC, and if no others are stop supporting EFC
steblue69

05 Jun 2013 16:38:09
if martinez can get the players as laid back on the pitch as he was in that press conference, the goals and beautiful football will just flow. I can't wait.

1878barlow

05 Jun 2013 16:26:23
Whelan said we're not a top club, well we have juve in the icc pre season cup and could play real madrid, ac milan, inter milan, valencia or chelsea. I think that's a bit more of a challenge for martinez then at wigan.
Whether you wanted him or not martinez is here now so let's get behind are new man COYB!

05 Jun 2013 16:20:00
Just heard martinez and kenwright sounds Cerys positive and excited to be our new manager. ryanfromleic

05 Jun 2013 16:11:12
good luck martinez all those who say we will be at the bottom at xmass are completely wrong let's supports RM
and we don't have to change IMWT! pkblue

05 Jun 2013 11:58:47
Will Martinez get a bonus for keeping us up this season ed? {Ed025's Note - no...but if we get CL he might..

05 Jun 2013 16:37:39
Really impressed by that press conference from Martinez you have just won another fan over really excited now IMWT coyb.

I thought he came across very well, but trust bill to put him under pressure before he's even started with that champions league comment.

05 Jun 2013 15:53:17
Super Kev (Campbell) saying some very complimentary things about Martinez on a satellite sports news website.
Domo

05 Jun 2013 15:49:19
Let the transfer rumours begin!

05 Jun 2013 15:38:07
Just hope we don't sign Mcmanamon he had a good game at wembley but anyone remember him before that?

I remember his goal at goodison in the quarters

I remember that dreadful challenge by him on that Newcastle player

Alastair

No because he is still very young

I remember his sweet skill against the Swansea player. Rolled from the right foot then nutmegged with the left. Sexy.

05 Jun 2013 15:26:51
Thank God it's over!
Congratulations RM as I stated in an earlier post you appear to be an honourable and decent man and you will get my backing now 100% as you now leader of our club.
So the Summer beckons which means cricket. those persons running Lancashire CC need sacking!
COYB

05 Jun 2013 15:06:12
Glad the manager has finally been sorted, now we can think about signing players

05 Jun 2013 14:55:56
i said last week he would get it and a 4 year deal. all wether he would pay the compo. and he has.

Ill give him a chance, still be there week in week out in the top balc.

However he will go down in history as the worst manager we have had in our LONG history, mark my words.

24 points by xmas no more I promise you all.

Ill accept your appologies then. wait and see.

SAD DAY, VERY SAD DAY. coyb

Absolute rubbish and a disgraceful comment.

Well thanks for that mate you really made my day and will you say sorry if we are sitting nicely in the top half come on mate lighten up a bit.

05 Jun 2013 15:34:26
And I will accept your apology in january after you have a whole month wishing you didn't post that he will do good just allow him to do that and where you saying that when moyes took charge from preston? Or are you psychic? And instantly know what is going to happen?

That giving him a chance didn't last very long did it?

Get a life I suppose you thought moyes would stay 10 years and turn club around as well anyone is a gamble but I think we have the right man young enthusiastic and prem experience with a know how to play football in the right way

Get a life mate

1878barlow

I have moved to the Top Balcony this coming season, please God hope it's not near you Biffy.
People like you take the joy of being an Evertonian away

Andy The Chef

Ed, can we make a list of all the Martinez lovers and haters, then reprint the list just after Christmas? See how many were right/wrong, or have changed their minds? I think he's the right man for the job.
Blue Lee {Ed025's Note - thats too hard lee..

Hey Biffy I'm with you mate Martinez will take us down, just like he did wigan.
Boffy {Ed025's Note - biffy and boffy..sound like childrens tv characters.. time to grow up boys..

Biffy 24 points by Xmas will do me fine: that's played 8 won 8 24 points. Always prefer my glass half full.

SA90

05 Jun 2013 14:46:56
Well now that it's official I am really excited about the future, especially if we can keep hold of Jags and Bainsey. RM will allow us much more freedom on the pitch. KM will thrive and hopefully Jelly will find the net again as regular as when he first came. COYB and Welcome to GP Mr Martinez.!

Couldnt agree more BN people have to understand we are not Wigan, and we not only have the players to play his way, but also have the defence to allow them to play.

05 Jun 2013 14:40:31
Why call a press conference at 4pm, then announce on the website that he's signed a contract? Anyways, 4 year deal - I really hope he lasts the duration

05 Jun 2013 14:18:44
Martinez to bring in his very successful back room staf from Wigan!
Good bye weir, stubs, big dunc sheeds
Your hard work was all in vain

05 Jun 2013 15:45:46
Big dunc etc are staying I think he will bring an assistent manager he will know the tradition of everton and I doubt he will just sack them

Looking forward to not having a sore neck every other week

05 Jun 2013 14:09:45
I'm not saying bill kenwright told me or kenwrights nepthews best mate told me but do you think McCarthy and mcmannan could be in the same deal as Martinez? Ben C

05 Jun 2013 13:41:28
Really down about Martinez as manager was expecting Pereira

Chin up mate!
It ain't over til the fat lady sings as they say!
I'm still clinging to the hope that its going to be Pereira aswell!
Like we expect from our beloved blues, keep going til the final whistle and never give up hope!
Anything is possible.

COME ON TEAM PERREIRA!

Blue Dazzle

Just heard on talk radio now that it is definately Martinez.
Cant say I'm not disappointed, because I really, really am!
However, we accept defeat gracefully, and applaud the winner.
Who says a turd can't be polished?
Welcome Roberto Martinez.

Blue Dazzle

Thanks blue dazzle I think we got wrong man but I hope he proves me wrong.

05 Jun 2013 13:28:35
Press conference Goodison Park 4PM GMT.
Rubbertoe is expected to be confirmed as the new manager. Anyone old enough to remember the Muller transfer saga, don't count your chickens just yet.

05 Jun 2013 13:04:34
I heard that the delay with martinez was down to transfer kitty he was being given. Who did he think he was taking over, we haven't had a transfer kitty in years. I stil think he will do a good job though. Blue billy

05 Jun 2013 13:02:29
MARTINEZ APPOINTED

05 Jun 2013 12:28:37
Well to all the posters that put money on Martinez well done you jammy feckers I lost a few quid on Periera ah well you win some you lose some.

Enjoy the relegation scraps Stef i've heard Martinez loves them lol

You better get used to losing

05 Jun 2013 11:37:57
why are people posting about possible transfer targets when we haven't even got a manager. who's to say the new manager would want the likes of fer

05 Jun 2013 11:35:25
This is beyond a joke now. what's happening with martinez or whoever were getting. its takes kenwright so long to do anything

Would you have rather it been done in the first 24 hours and we'd ended up with an easy option like o'neil/hughes?

It was an easy option, you don't think Kenwright has ambition and balls to go for foreign.

05 Jun 2013 10:51:43
BBC saying Martinez appointment is imminent (sports day live website)

Lee the blue

They've been saying that since Friday.

05 Jun 2013 10:29:48
the reason why BK hasn't got no manager yet is because DM is still on the wage bill, he was on around 70k a week so = 280+ thousand is still what he still needs paying

05 Jun 2013 09:54:00
DAILY EXPRESS
Manchester United are ready to step up their interest in Leighton Baines by making a £10million offer for the Everton defender.



Which toe are they buying then

Degsy

Defiantly none off his left foot anyway. Moyes should know better if this is true as he worth £20mill+ but am pretty sure that no matter what money is offered that he himself has no intention of leaving us. Riley1878

Toenail clippings to be precise Degsy!

Or Bigtoe for £10million and RVP thrown in as a sweetener for us fans :)

05 Jun 2013 11:31:42
Love it Blue247, RVP will play for us anyway in 3 years time mate

What the hell happened to moyes word, not to come in for everton players?

A managers/players word means nothing in football

Moyes has never been quoted as saying he wouldn't come back in for Everton players. That was just the usual lazy paper talk.

05 Jun 2013 08:59:21
Manchester United are ready to step up their interest in Leighton Baines by making a £10m offer to Everton [Daily Mail]

05 Jun 2013 08:29:14
cant believe al the flack BK is getting for taking his time appointing a new manager. really efc fans give him a break, I think he's handled it very very well, not rushing into first guy he meets, cut him some slack this is the biggest decision everton have faced I thing probably ever, with regards to players we have the way club is going etc etc, hel announce it when he's ready and we have to trust his judgement. coyb nsno.

Well said

TC

05 Jun 2013 02:16:18
Love it how so many blag rumours saying "a reliable source told me" Bull toss!

What we don't know is:

a) who the manager is going to be
b) what we have to spend
c) who is leaving and who is coming in

What the reality is, is:

a) we know RM is in talks with the club, but so are other managers
b) we have had an increase in TV revenue, DM's 4m a year wages have gone,
c) players have said they wish to stay John Heitinger the exception to that, We are not going to sign players that a potential new manager may not want to waste what little funds he has.
d) who ever comes in we need to get behind and support from the off! we are Everton not them lot across the park!

Bill Kenwright for all of his misgivings in the past (although personally I like the guy) he has done well in not rushing into getting a new man in. He is interviewing a lot of people by the sounds of it and that can only be a good thing, its ok saying get VP in from porto but who can honestly say they had heard of him before DM left? Michael Laudrup - manager at Swansea, who is their right mind is going to pay 7-10m to get him out of his Swansea contract? - NO THANKS. I personally am unsure of RM as Everton is a totally different kettle of fish to Wigan, but then again we got Moyes from PNE!

At least he is giving Everton fans some news and keeping us updated. The crowd currently running our club give us fans nothing, leave everybody guessing and making up wild stories. Come on Dave. which players will Everton be signing!!

04 Jun 2013 23:55:30
Really hope we still get VP, still think its Martinez who will still become are boss tho, c'mon Bill listen to the fans like you promised. GarstonBlue

I think he did listen. If you go back only a month ago everyone was saying get Martinez. Now all these other names get mentioned and people start saying he is crap. They say people in football have short memories none more so then some so called fans.

MAC

MAC:

''everyone'' Excuse me, only I'm afraid the Ed's should have pulled you on that one!

Maybe some, however 'everyone' is way, way too strong buddy.