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05 Jul 2013 23:02:18
. I thought u needed permission to approach or tap up or offer a job to a manager under contract did they not seek permission off bill fa should investigate. all too cosy for me t p. {Ed025's Note - see the previous post tp..
05 Jul 2013 22:59:12
So just to clarify what you have stated Mr Moyes. Fergie/Man U approached and surprised you by asking you to be Man U manager a week before old red nose resigned? Does that mean you were approached whilst under contract at EFC and without EFC knowledge judging by the 'suprise'. I'm no expert but to me that sounds like poaching. Thoughts Ed.? {Ed025's Note - its tapping up ozzie, but do you think anything will happen to old strawberry conk and his cronies?...they have been doing it for years mate, and the FA are scared to rock the man utd love boat.
It's not tapping up if you've got under 6 months left on your contract.
United fan coming in peace here.
I get that you are all downright pissed off but anyone can be approached in the final 6 months of their contract I thought or does that apply to just the players?
If Everton Football Club do complain to the FA about tapping up only then can they act. Without a complaint, let's just say its all consensual.
Tapping up is pretty much a grey area as far as the rules are concerned and where exactly does one draw a line? What the likes of Real Madrid do is far worse imo.
REDFAITH
Imo moyes knew he was in line for the united job at xmas, in one interview arl whisky nose taggart said he decided to retire at xmas there must of been contact between the two of them, why else did moyes string us all along with his contract situation giving some people false hope, and leaving us strapped with no compensation being payed. What irks me most about the situation is while still under contract and being payed by everton moyes couldn't wait could he to go to united, he went to uniteds title winning bus parade, he was at the training ground the next day, and to cap it all off he comes in with an insulting offer for baines, then today he's telling the world wayne rooney, s not for sale. Well ginge do one, baines is not for sale now f*** off. But that's not up to me, over to you bill.
05 Jul 2013 22:47:33
Just seen moyes interview on sky how stunned he was at getting Manchester United job yet having secret meetings at his house with whiskey nose about the sale of our players fookin unbelievable!! Fergies ******* child!! Coybb
One club representative meets another club representative about a player's transfer. That is exactly how its done! Everton sign players in exactly this manner as well.
REDFAITH
05 Jul 2013 19:15:27
What is it with some posters saying we should only be signing players with "sell on" value? That's as good as saying we expect these players to move from Everton as soon as they do well for us because we won't be successful enough to hold onto them. I want the players we sign to have successful careers with Everton for as long as possible and thereby be key members of a winning team/squad/club. Their age is irrelevant IMHO, as long as they can contribute. Of course, every transfer should represent good (acceptable) value for all parties, but I'm prepared to let the professional football people at Everton make those decisions.
Like it or not that is the board's business model. We have to sell off the family silver every few seasons to stave off the wolves and it will not change whilst this circus is in the boardroom.
Sell to buy and sell to keep the banks happy.
Eventually we'll run out of saleable assets and then the slide down the divisions will commence if it hasn't already started.
Maybe then people will get on Kim Jong bill's case and force him out of town. {Ed025's Note - zzzzzzzzzzz..
In the last 11 years outside of Rooney and Lescott what have we sold? Arteta was sound business past his best anyone else? Nope? It's a myth and the fact that mainly Evertonians preach this myth is just irritating
Svenny
If we hadn't sold Arteta we'd have made a £19m loss in 2011/12. Doesn't take a genius to work out that's an unsustainable business model. Similar last summer, had we not sold Rodwell we'd have been restricted to Naismith on a free.
Sorry I pressed send before I could finish. Then without squad strengthening ie. Mirallas, Pienaar, Oviedo et al coming in league placings suffer. At c. £800k per league placing we'd have slipped to maybe 10-12th for example, that's £3. 2-£4.8m further losses on top of what we already lose.
We can't afford to let it slide otherwise losses will be greater and we'll be even further up the creek without a paddle.
05 Jul 2013 19:29:28
Apologies if this has been covered before, but several posters were speculating on RM switching Everton to a 3-4-3 formation with Coleman and Baines being the wing-backs in the middle-4. As our current players have done well with a back-4 (in 4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1 or 4-5-1 formations), why would he change the successful Coleman-Jagielka-Distin-Baines combination? It'll be interesting to see the formations that are tried during pre-season. Will it be the players having to fit into a particular formation OR will it be the players we have to choose from that determine the preferred formation?
I agree pal.
I personally think we'll probably change it up to a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 formation as I think Martinez knows that he can't change an already tried and trusted system and expect instant results.
I think the 3-4-3 that's been touted will be if we go a goal down and are pushing for an equaliser/winner.
I hope he doesn't tweak it too much Sid, I think he'll go with a 4231 or 433 as the defense has been one of the best in the league for several years now and he would be foolish to tinker too much with the tried and trusted.
If he can retain the defensive solidity and impose his attacking philosophy then we could be playing some really good, attractive stuff and remain very competitive.
Whatever happens it will be interesting to watch it unfold
05 Jul 2013 21:59:56
good post. I always think a manager should choose a formation based on the players they have at their disposal rather than the other way around. a 4-4-2 would be my preferred formation if we manage to keep fellaini. Imagine:
Howard
Coleman Jagielka/Alcaraz Distan/Alcaraz Baines
Mirallas Barkley/Gibson Fellaini Pienaar
Jelavic Kone/Anichebe
rotation would be available with many positions to keep the squad fresh, however I feel the reason we are being linked with the likes of alcaraz is due to Martinez liking playing 3 centre backs to control possesion in each area of the pitch:
Howard
Jags Alcaraz Distan
Coleman Baines
Fellaini Gibson Barkley/ Pienaar
Mirallas Jelavic/Kone
with the 2nd formation the centre back (alcaraz) will play as a ball playing centre half moving into centre mid to make a centre 4 midfileders along with the wing backs to take control of possession. good format if done correctly and do not lump the ball forwards as was apparent towards the middle of last season under Moyes. Either system could work for us and I would be happy with that team to challenge for european places
Red or blue we have both ended up with ex swansea managers & I know who I would choose RM all the way, stop moaning & give the man a chance!
He will be playing with wingbacks that team above is pretty much spot on without baines
L4 4EL
05 Jul 2013 19:11:29
I've just seen the new state of my beloved EFC. I was prepared to get behind Martinez, now I find that EFC has become Wigan down the road. Everything that Moyes made of Everton in the backroom has gone. If I thought that Martinez was a good motivator I would stand by him. But he and his staff motivated them (Wigan)too the Championship. Now we have that staff. Smart move Bill (I only want the best)
I understand your frustration, Tony but isn't it natural these days for a new manager to take his old staff with him to a club? Even Owen Coyle has taken his new Wigan staff from his last job at Bolton. Plus the new staff got some good games out of distinctly average players, in some cases at Wigan. I doubt Gus Poyet will be taking his staff to his next job though. He might be the exception to the rule.
Stop being a fool and get behind them. They're here now and there is nothing you or I can do about it. So instead of screaming doom from the rooftops let's give them a chance to show what they can do. Just because it went tits up at Wigan doesn't automatically mean the same will happen to us.
Do one lad, you haven't given robby a chance, i'm sure he's going to be an everton legend
EFL
Tony, come on now, Everton haven't become Wigan. They are FA Cup champions and playing in Europe
06 Jul 2013 00:53:43
If professional footballers can't motivate themselves in front of 35-40000 fans screaming their names and cheering them on then they shouldn't be playing
I'm not shout doom from the rooftops. Yes it is frustration. We all talk about moving forward. I don't see this as moving forward. Yes, I'm prepared to give RM a chance but I don't see it working. "Your in my heart, your in my soul". I've supported our club since I was 6 years old, back in 1949. It has a habit of coming back and biting your b*m (except under Harry)
Yes onlyhaveeyesforblue the Wigan backroom staff did get some good result from a mediocre team (the result against us), but is that what we aim for, the odd good result or Champions League?
05 Jul 2013 18:58:37
I've posted on here airing my reservations about signing kone and alcaraz and as a season ticket holder I'm struggling to get excited about these targets. Don't get me wrong I've suffered with all you blues on transfer deadline day and been gutted about our inactivity. But, are we that desperate for bodies that we will take two average players from a relegated club just to beef up the numbers, different story if it's mccarthy, young and ambitious? If so, i'd rather we blood some youngsters? My fellow blues, your thoughts are most welcome. Just my opinion.
IF we sign him, Kone will do well for us. I was impressed with him all last season long before all the change arounds happen. He is a decent player and will give us an extra outlet on something we don't have at the minute and that's pace. Alcaraz will be another Distin I'm absolutely convinced of it. He's going to be great for us {Ed025's Note - before wigan signed him paddo, guys on here were asking why we did,nt sign him, you just cant please some people mate..
I agree with the blooding of our youthplayers but considering they haven't signed yet and no games have been played we won't know if they are any good. for all we know alcaraz could play and be immense for us and kone could bang em in as well as set em up. we just don't know
The ambitious tag is kind of ironic actually, McCarthy seems intent in staying in the Championship. Whilst Koné's actively finding a top tier club and Alcaraz didn't extend his contract in fear of slipping down a division.
Kone is a very good cf strong. runs into channels. holds the ball up well. scores goals. what do you want. better than vic and jelly.
05 Jul 2013 18:43:39
Spurs might be shaking things up in their squad this summer and Clint Dempsey hardly got a game last season. He might be a decent choice for us if he can regain the form he had at Fulham and maybe cheaper than Kone too, if Spurs are looking to off load him. Not a brilliant or exciting idea, I know, but could be a decent bit of depth if funds really are low or options are limited. I know we're after bigger names, but out of the more affordable targets out there, I'd choose Dempsey over the likes of pink car driving Stephen Ireland.
05 Jul 2013 23:44:42
Do not want any spurs reject who is next parker? Gallas? No dempsey isn't good enough
05 Jul 2013 18:10:15
been speaking to a few wigan fans and they have all said the same thing, anyone you're linked to you aren't getting, every player martinez brought in was always someone nobody mentioned and the ones linked to he always looked baffled when questioned about them, does this mean we could actually end up with 3/4 complete unknown quantities? or do you know of concrete intrest from martinez in a player? ED or anyone?
06 Jul 2013 01:00:26
Look at who we were linked to last year. we didn't get any of them and all the people on here saying they have contacts and know who we are after, none of them mentioned mirra11as, Oviedo stones or even fer in January. all talking rubbish
05 Jul 2013 17:43:44
i don't think kone is a bad player myself but I think we could get a better player for 5 mil. wasnt mirallas about that price?
Mirallas was £6m
Kev was 5.5m
05 Jul 2013 17:04:45
Oh no ed please please tell me the link with Steven (me nans dead) Ireland is just a load of tripe. Am not avin that. LIAM! {Ed025's Note - i hope it is as well liam...the guys a tragedy..
RM has spoken about only wanting to bring the right character of player - whatever their footballing skills are - into the current group. On that basis, the has-beens, never-wasers, time-wasters, etc. , that other clubs - and agents - want to shift are surely not among the players we're genuinely interested in.
05 Jul 2013 16:57:38
Well Moyes is well and truly a liar, saying he went to SAF expecting him to say I'm taking one of your players, com on! Really? Managers go round to another managers house so they can say I'm taking him! MR Moyes you really do take us for fools, It was all out the blue, no, you've been tapped up for months. I personally still thank you for all you done, but you will never get a clap from my hands again.
EverTheOptimistic
Spot on mate if a manager is going to take one of your players he would go to you not expect you to go to him. Look Moyes and Fergie had this cooking since Christmas he is a liar and has no respect for us let's just forget about him now we have a manager now that has said more good things about the club in a few weeks than Moyes has in 11 years he will fail fergie can only protect him for so long and half there fans want him gone already he will end up like Harry redknapp managing a team in the championship.
Just watched the interview. sitting on the fence Moyes. Rooney has not said he will be staying. Man U coming out saying he is not for sale means he is for sale. anyone else of the same opinion?
I was as annoyed as many other posters with DM about the transfer enquiry for Leighton Baines - and instantly lost my respect my goodwill towards him that built up during his eleven years with us - but I'm drawing a line under this. Roberto Martinez is our manager now and my energy will be directed at supporting the team/squad/club delivering winning, entertaining football.
Forget about moyes. if wants to try and buy baines he can, he's man utds manager. we don't need gentle mans agreements. if we want to be considered a top club with serious ambition, we need a chairman and manager to be really strong. just say no to utd, and if by any unlikely consideration baines implys he wants to go. say no to him.
05 Jul 2013 16:31:35
HOOPER! WE SHOULD GET HIM! BETTER AND YOUNGER THAN KONE
What's with all this SHOUTING? We shan't have shouting here. This is a local site, for local people.
Why only local?
Just a joke about the first posters use of capitals. It was supposed to be a quote from a tv sitcom that if you haven't heard of, makes me feel old. All brothers and sister's of the blue, worldwide are welcome here.
It's okay onlyhave, give the stranger some "Special stuff" he will soon be localised!
05 Jul 2013 15:56:26
Anyone else feel like we are getting our backs stabbed by the likes of Neville moyes and all the rest who have joined united? Tom
Why just because they are furthering their careers?
They haven't been everton since birth like we have
How Neville? Even though he played for us for 8 years I'm sure he's still a manc at heart
Phil Neville - whatever his technical limitations a a footballer - always tried to give of his best IMHO for Everton. In terms of commitment to the cause, I'd place him very close to the likes of Mick Lyons. Neville going back to ManUtd is similar, I'd suggest, to when Howard Kendall came back from managing ManCity (he called that a love affair) to mange Everton again (he called that a marriage).
Personally I feel as though Moyes has shown little or no respect for our club. We gave him his big chance. now it sounds as though he couldn't wait to leave
05 Jul 2013 15:14:17
BK, Robert Elstone and the res of the Mickey Mouse club house gang hang your heads in shame. We signed fella about 5yrs ago for a club record which hasn't been beaten. Despite the amount of money we have recouped in sales, this yr we gained an extra huge bonus in tv money. But we seem to be looking at bargain basement players! Stephen Ireland for crying out loud.
Norwich are backing Chris Hutton so are Swansea and Southampton. I'm happy with Rob, but I have a suspicion that BK is stitching him up. 4th spot with the players were linked to. Bloody joke!!
Eric D
Eric, do you need some tissue to dry those tears?
And you know who we are interested in? Look Back at the stories we have heard in the past and very few of them had any truth in them. Rm has been in work for 5 days, and he had to sort out his staff first we are not a team who takes control away from the manager m give him some time
We have been spending more than we've earned for many years. We're servicing loans (that funded our continued existence AND modest transfer activity) by using future income as collateral. The idea that all of the new TV money is available for new spending on players - rather than a major chunk being needed to cover existing financial commitments - cannot be the reality IMHO. The only thing BK has said is that 100% of outgoing transfer money will be available to spend. How much money is already available is a moot point and only the club know the figure for sure. What does seem clear to me - given the time it's taking to make even free-transfer or release-clause signings - is that we have to be very careful about negotiating up-front payments, instalments, add-ons, etc. , because our cash flow is not as huge at other clubs with bigger matchday and other commercial revenue.
05 Jul 2013 15:12:08
Hey ed what happened with Honda? Was he not interested in joining or was it all talk? thanks for your time ed apreciate it. {Ed025's Note - he is very interested mate, its between us and milan, but he has expressed a desire to play in the EPL..
The only Honda we are going to see is the one in the car park! {Ed025's Note - thats a new one.. :(
05 Jul 2013 15:06:19
I'm not going to get my hopes up until the ED says.
He was right a full month before Jelly, thanks to the Scottish eds and a full 2 weeks ahead for Naismith, for the same reason
Here's hoping the ED has connections in Europe.
Well played ED well played.
He got Naismith granted but he didn't get jelly and he told us we were lying when a Pienaar return was discussed. {Ed025's Note - i actually told you about jelly 3 months before he joined..but hey..believe what you want..
As a regular ed I/We know the score!
06 Jul 2013 01:08:10
Pity you weren't wrong about naismith ed
05 Jul 2013 14:32:53
Mbia anybody? Available for nothing and he was decemt for qpr wouldn't mind him
05 Jul 2013 15:24:04
Crap player and has an attitude always getting sent off
Don't remember him doing brilliantly, but I do recall him getting sent of for booting Vermaelen after a tackle. Think he might have been one of the 'high maintenance' moaners Redknapp had to deal with at qpr. Could be wrong though. Moyes looked at him for a while, if that's anything to go by.
I agree if newcastle do beat us to his signiture all those who have moaned about us signing him will be moaning we didn't can't win?
05 Jul 2013 14:11:35
Really looking forward to the new season, I think Kone will be a great signing. Need another midfielder and a keeper though. Going to be seeing a lot more positive football rather than sitting on a 1-0 lead at home to Norwich! Come on you Blues!
BlueMick5
Finally, a positive Evertonian! More like you please. I too am really looking forward to the new season and expect us to push on and finish higher than last year.
COYB!
05 Jul 2013 13:44:35
What happened to Alcatraz. Good defender, wanted to come to Everton. Everton wanted him. On a free. Martinez likes him. No one else seemingly interested. Why isn't he signed. and announced, so he can join up and train together.
05 Jul 2013 12:49:27
everton can have Stanley park if they want it. that's up to them now. come on bill get your money out. t. p.
05 Jul 2013 11:48:17
Morning blues just a quick post. Why is it nearly every player we get linked with Spurs are also linked with?
Because, like every other professional club, they have worldwide scouting networks that identify pretty much every talented player. Very few - if any - complete "unknowns" are unearthed these days. Besides, football agents will inundate every club with details of their players. The idea that other clubs don't know about players that Everton might be interested in is ludicrous. All that matters is which club actually decides to complete a deal for a particular player - there are many players that Everton (and many other clubs) might be interested in, but won't be signed for a variety of reasons. I wish our fans would stop believing this rubbish that other clubs wait for our interest before getting interested themselves.
Bloody good post that Cowpat, I never thought of it like that before.
Cowpat never mentioned other clubs the post was asking why Spurs all the time you need to read the op again it only said Spurs.
You could that around and ask why are we always linked with spurs targets as seeing as their no evidence to who was targeting the players first.
05 Jul 2013 11:05:49
Negative Evertonians. My goodness, everyone seems to be going into depression and the season hasn't even started. Players stating they want to sign or wanted to sign for Everton and are now signing for other lesser clubs. Has anyone actually thought that perhaps Everton don't want the players in question?
Predictions that Baines and Felli will go, but so late that we will not be signing anyone else. Moans about Kone and Alcaraz. One minute we are all whinging because Kone is over-rated and we should be after better players. The minute Newcastle show interest, we are all moaning that we don't show enough ambition and we should have signed him by now.
Once a depressed blue always a depressed blue.
Here pass the anti-depressants, I feel another signing being missed.
Degsypulford
05 Jul 2013 13:03:35
Your comments would make anyone depressed degsy. I am confident Baines will stay and 50/50 on Fellaini. If fellaini goes we will have cash to replace with 2 god buys. I think Heitinga and perhaps Jealvic and Gueye are the others to go. Alverac and Kone good acquisitions ands we need more strength and I believe Martinez will get a couple of buys and loans [Barcelona lad looks likely] and will bring through Ross and a couple other young lads. I hope Vellios gets a chance also. I am not in the slightest depressed and I'm very optimstic about the squad just give RM time to settle in he has already got is backroom staff sorted so be patient the transfer window is only 4 days old and most players are still on holiday if they have ben playing internationals like Fer etc.
Wellzee
Totally agree Degsy. I've not posted for a few weeks, as we have been bombarded with doom and gloom and I don't see much point posting if I've nothing constructive to say. One thing I will say is that I feel that BK was spot on with the appointment of Martinez, as with his positivity I feel that he is clearly the right man to take us forward. As supporters obviously we all have our own opinions with regard to players, but in my opinion if a player is good enough for RM, then he is good enough for me whoever he may be.
We all think of ourselves as supporters of our team. Well its about time some of the negativity brigade behaved like true supporters and got behind the new regime come what may.
Forgot to put my name to that reply.
Shropshire Blue.
05 Jul 2013 10:57:06
Boys and girls, we all need to calm the f*** down here. All the players we're being linked with are just media speculation none of us know who we're truely after or what is being done behind the scenes. Please guys, don't believe anything you read in the tabloids or on tv, they make it up as they go along. speculation means readers and that's the business that they are in. Don't get sucked into the circus of the British press just be patient and let's see what develops.
I agree.
Besides, if journos really knew about football, they'd be better at predicting results and would have made a fortune betting on matches. Since they're still doing their day jobs (in most cases lazily and badly), I guess they haven't cleaned out the bookies or won he pools ;-)
05 Jul 2013 10:18:26
Kone stats from last season.
good
84% pass completion. 3rd best of any striker in prem.
goal every 8 shots compared to big vic's 11 and Jellymans 12.
Most of his goals from inside the 6 yard box!
Bad
Lost the ball a lot. 2nd worst striker in the league. Although suarez lost the ball the most of any striker.
2nd worst striker in the league? Give your head a rest lad.
He meant second worse at loosing the ball
05 Jul 2013 09:39:28
Does anyone know who actually in the club makes initial contact with clubs for possible signings, is there just one person because as we seem to, 'be in talks' (for ages) with about six different players he/she must be having language difficulties or unfortunately have a very bad stammer.
I don't know for sure, but I imagine it would be two people at similar level: BK telephoning the chairman of the other club, or RM doing likewise to the manager (or DoF) of another club. I also imagine that people in the club's scouting network would "test the water" about a player's availability before proposing any formal/official move. I expect every club knows who to contact at other clubs about transfers and has their telephone numbers.
Once the nitty-gritty of contracts, finance, image rights, other legal matters, etc. , are reached, then I expect the relevant specialists - both inside the club and external - to be brought into negotiations. Just a guess, but it makes sense to me.
That made me laugh
Jc
05 Jul 2013 09:14:31
all this garbage about leighton leaving is ridiculous. he isn't going anywhere, he will still be here for the upcoming season. and fellaini, well, if he goes then fair enough, we'd have funds to sign leroy fer and some other players to strengthen our squad on a whole. although I would like fellaini to stay if he doesn't want to play for the blues, there's no point in making him stay.
05 Jul 2013 08:48:23
So Honda has signed contract (or pre-contract) with AC Milan. Knew there was no chance of us signing him in the first place.
Nathon Redmond goes to NORWICH. (Effing Norwich) whilst we show interest but make no firm bid for the player.
We umm and arr too much over the price of Roberto Soldado and now Spurs and City are interested so we can put that one to bed too now (even though in reality there was no chance he'd come to us anyway either).
Anyone still harbouring thoughts of signing Leroy Fer can forget about it as well as we are a joke club in the transfer market.
I'll predict what's going to happen now and you can all come back and call me a sheep interferer or whatever you want if I'm wrong.
Kenwright WILL sell Baines and Fellaini this transfer window, but it'll be right at the end of the window and then bleat on about not having enough time to bring in quality replacements etc, while he lines his own pockets. No-one cares if you don't take a wage Bill, just put some money back into the club you supposedly love.
Our marquee signings this summer? I 30 year old centre half (Alcaraz) and a near 30 year old goal shy centre forward (Kone). And Kone is an African 30 so probably actually nearer 40.
Cheers Bill, we rode our luck for long enough I guess!
Welsh Blue
Load of tripe. just another so-called fan jumping to assumptions. Out of the whole premier league we must haveethe most fickle, gloomy fans. no wonder our so called targets are going to so called lesser clubs like Norwich, Southampton and the like. I mean who in their right mind would want to walk out to a packed stadium infront of our fans to be slated instead of cheered
Boring me now. Eds I don't know how you cope. These so called "fans" drain the life out of me.
IMWT
NathCOYB
No if I go on about the above points. I get called negative, etc etc. I like yourself am a realist, we will have no more than 48 points this season, I know so does everyone else. They just won't admit it. Ill say again, Mike Walker days are her again.
05 Jul 2013 11:27:48
have a nap mate and wake up in a better mood please and support whoever our manager signs
sideshow ste
I don't think Honda tossed a coin and ended up at Milan - we could never hope to compete if a club like this steps in, so I can't get worked up about it.
Redmond wanted Everton, not necessarily the other way round. Just how good is he, and where would he fit in? Promising Championship player, with good potential at best. Not getting him hasn't cost me any sleep.
Just because the press link us with players (usually without any basis) some people immediately blame BK, the Board, etc when we don't go out and sign them whether we wanted them or not. Let's not get all "bitter blue" (apologies) already, the transfer window has just opened, the new manager has only just started, and in terms of our type of player there has been little, if any, activity.
To put things into perspective, three days ago Kone was too old / not good enough / not consistent enough for may fans (and certain websites), and yet as soon as NUFC enquire, BK and RM are under fire for not having snapped him up!
Perhaps the transfer window is just another Kenwright conspiracy to deflect attention from really important issues like badges?
Baines and Fellaini are different entirely :-
Option 1: you can take a view that they will both leave and offer both for sale now hoping that you have time to spend the money (uproar all round?). However, the timing of the sale and the eventual terms will still be dictated by the buyer, and could still be at the very end of the window.
Option 2: you can try to convince them to stay / convince buyers that they are not for sale, and work with what money you have. If and when someone comes in for them, or if they try to engineer a move, the timing of the sale, the eventual terms will still be dictated by the buyer, and again could still be at the very end of the window.
I am just saying that even if you have the finances and resources of a Chelsea or Man City, you still cannot always control your own destiny with players you have, and you have to work on the basis of what you know.
Just trying to bring some balance and perspective to things.
TC
Hey, TC is my name, been using it ages!
TC {Ed007's Note - You should register it TC, then people will know it's the original you.}
I have ed but it kept signing me out so I gave up
TC {Ed025's Note - your e-mail field tells me its you TC...and as your the original, i will post only yours mate..
Thanks ed!
TC
05 Jul 2013 08:30:02
I think it's fair to say that Everton don't have the transfer budget to match the likes of Norwich, Swansea or Southamption, which is embarrassing, but it's not a surprise, nor is it RM's fault. He was brought in to work miracles on a tight budget and I reckon he will.
We know he'll give the youth a chance, and that he has a detailed knowledge of homebased and overseas players. The likes of McManaman and McCarthy owe their success to him. Ironically, they're probably beyond Everton's budget now.
I think it's interesting that Everton are linked with a load of wingers - it suggests that RM will play Mirallas more centrally, which has to be a good thing.
I would also take the 'three or four' players remark with a pinch of salt. In manager-speak that often means 'five or six', especially if promising youngsters like Delofeu are available on loan.
I say don't panic and give RM a chance to do his job.
RM Fan
Yes we do why do you think the likes of Norwich surprisingly have money they are using the increased money from the tv deal all clubs are we should be using it to strengthen to but we will need to see if this board does exactly that
05 Jul 2013 07:54:00
Not that we had a great chance of signing him anyway, but Pierre-emerick aubameyang has signed for borussia Dortmund
Source: tv
05 Jul 2013 03:41:16
I have to say i'm very disapointed with lack of transfer activity considering bk said two players had been approached. I would like to think with a new manager in place the board would do everything to show their intent to back rm. i'm not saying just sign any player for the sake of it but get things moving instead of dragging things out as usual. All we ask is the board to be honest. If we have no funds tell us straight then atleast we know what to expect. True fans will always support the team regardless.
The windows been open 5 days, give him a break. What would you rather have rush into transfers for standard players or take his time and find some cracking gems? Just be patient and get behind RM.
By the weekend we will be the only prem team not to sign anyone. so no I don't want him to rush things but let's at least show ambition
05 Jul 2013 03:20:19
Right then. After reading tons of doom and gloom over the past week or so on here i'm going to say. wait for it. here it is. '' I've got a great feeling bout Martinez, his backroom staff and the signings we WILL make and am looking forward to a cracking season with good attacking football. And Ed if some1 replies with ''he got wigan relegated'' don't put it on this post. Its a happy positive post lol {Ed025's Note - it is dentielad...and i feel the same mate, its a new and exciting chapter in the everton story..
05 Jul 2013 07:14:05
Well said Dentie, can't believe all the people slamming the club and manager and its only 5 days into the transfer window, roll on the start of the season
Degsy
I think DM faces more prob's ahead of him in his new post with manc's than RM will have with the blues, but let's not dwell on DM, all in the past. Onwards and upwards, IMWT, COYB! (Wavertree Blue)
Couldnt agree more. I think RM is a breath of fresh air already before a ball is even kicked. can't wait for the Blackburn game so we can show Robbie our magnificent support
Y viva Martinez!
stewillow
Is right mate at last someone with a bit of sense, I hope roberto takes us further than that manc ginger t*at did, then all these doubters will come crawling out the woodworks saying roberto is the best thing since sliced bread, at least get behind him and support our club no matter what.
ewefc
05 Jul 2013 00:00:58
Does anybody know if Everton will get any percentage of a sell on fee if John Ruddy is sold to Chelsea or anybody else? Would do Norwich a favour if we bought him back because they wouldn't have to give any of a sell on fee away if we are the buyers. He would be perfect replacement for Howard in the next few years as Howard ages and we get more English players in the squad
05 Jul 2013 04:30:25
Is this the John ruddy that Chris woods said get shut because he's no good?
I hope at least we get a few quid from him,
Eric D
I have a feeling he went to someone else before Norwich. so no.
Degsypulford
Degsypulford, he was out loan at a few clubs from us, but norwich purchased him from us, a mate of mine is very good mates with john and he used to live not far from me
Degsy we loaned ruddy to Motherwell on his return WE sold him to Norwich for an undisclosed fee mate think you got mixed up there lad. LIAM!