Everton Banter Archive January 05 2018

 

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05 Jan 2018 22:41:59
Have to say I'm proud of the lads tonight even though we lost, I believe we are getting closer to breaking that dreaded record at Anfield soft penalty yes but it swings both ways well done Everton we had them on the ropes after we scored but s creative midfielder is desperately needed but no shame tonight guys.

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{Ed025's Note - i agree stef..

05 Jan 2018 22:39:36
Liverpool fan viewpoint, you boys were much better without Rooney, he was a red card waiting to happen. Lookman looks a prospect and you need to get gylfi in the number ten more often, think getting a striker will help. You kept us quiet until the pen, won’t even get into that one but think it’s soft. There was a spell in the second half where we looked dangerous but I would say you kept us quiet for the majority of the game.
Any idea what happened with Holgate? he didn’t take to kindly to something fimino said but I hope it was just frustration boiling over for giving away a pen.
Good luck for the rest of the season, except against us.

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05 Jan 2018 22:47:04
Fair comment WYred. Rooney a good player still but the others seem to regard him with awe, as a consequence everything goes through him and at times slows the game down. You are quite right on Siguurdson, once in his proper position the man is a player. Loads of us have passed the same comment as you on Lookman. Yes the penalty was soft but as we say, swings and roundabouts. 2 - 1 cost you an additional 75 million, hope that does not detract from your mortgage payments to Everton FC PLC.

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05 Jan 2018 22:52:25
Rooney is good but I would bring him off the bench, you need to build for the future and he is your past, Everton have some very good prospects.
Not even going to reply to the Everton plc banter ;)

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05 Jan 2018 23:31:35
I think Rooney wanted so much to be the hero he tried extra hard but it came out in the wrong way, he didn’t try to injure he wanted to show the fans he’s still got it/ cares. He’s still got the talent but maybe lacks the intelligence in the gear of the moment? Good game lads, meaty yet no injuries, a interesting show and a few goals. I’m sure you’ll stay up and I hope you’d keep climbing. Onwards and upwards for all things Merseyside!

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05 Jan 2018 22:38:39
I don't get why people keep having a crack at Martina. He's not perfect but I watch him and I think he does alright. Like I said not perfect makes a mistake. But even Mr Perfect makes a mistake tonight. If you haven't guessed already I was talking about Pickford.

Finally Lookman gets a game. I've been banging on week in and week out. Where's Lookman. That's 2 games he's played and both games he's looked very very good indeed. Hopefully he's claimed his left wing. Bolasie on right. Sigs as number 10.

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05 Jan 2018 22:51:59
100% Mate.

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05 Jan 2018 23:01:09
People have a crack at Martina because he is not very good. He is awful at RB and even worse at LB, his main problem is stamina. He can jump forward but cannot get back thus leaving us exposed. Lookman is a cracking little player but you cannot have him and Martina on the same flank. Currently apparently we do not have a alternative to Martina hence the reason Lookman does not get the gametime he deserves. Once Baines or A N Other of similar ability is in the LB position then you will see more of Lookman.

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05 Jan 2018 23:12:27
Ducks that is rubbish. Lookman don't get a game because Martina is Left Back utter nonsense. I think Lookman didn't get a game because he was a very forward attacking defence and Allerdyce didn't want that just yet as he's sorting the defence out.
I can't believe you think that low of Martina. You can't be watching the the right player. If anyone struggled getting back it was Bolasie.

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05 Jan 2018 23:19:01
Sorry correction not sure what happened there.
Meant to read Lookman is a very attacking PLAYER. And Allerdyce didn't want that just yet as he was sorting the defence out.
That's the only reason I can think of why Lookman wasn't getting his game.

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05 Jan 2018 23:20:53
Agreed mowfee but Kenny can defend. Martina can't tbh.

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05 Jan 2018 23:21:22
every home game mowfee but this is a game of opinions. Respect.

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05 Jan 2018 23:26:50
Kenny can defend. At times I thought he looked knackered out. Still put in 100%.

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06 Jan 2018 01:35:57
Martina has come on a long way, he's barely a right back let alone a left back. Let's not make him a scape goat he's doing his best and there's been far worse performances by others than him.

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06 Jan 2018 08:40:13
I understand what you mean Ducksflysouth. If I was manager, I would not play the 2 of them on the same side. Lookman does look good sometimes. but he also has a tendancy to not get his head up and runs into defenders and loses the ball. (he will learn) . Martina as you rightly say is not the best footballer and although he works hard, he also has a tendancy to give the ball away. The 2 of them together are both slow at reacting and don't defend well enough. So yes I am with you and Lookman will have to wait until Baines or another LB is available.

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06 Jan 2018 09:16:40
I side with Mowfee and oll. For me he gives everything he has every game. He's not perfect or of the quality we want but what he does do is try his best every game. I wish some others like kev would do the same.

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05 Jan 2018 22:32:44
We look a yard off the pace. Still playing players out of position. What do we expect.

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05 Jan 2018 22:42:24
I have to be honest I did not expect to win tonight and thought we would do well to keep it down to 2 against. However I was delighted with the way we played at times especially in midfield. There looked to be a confidence I have not seen for some time. Two errors gave them their goals. We worked for ours. Gutted as always to lose to them, but light starting to shine at the end of a dark tunnel hopefully. Can only go forwards now.

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{Ed0333's Note - delighted with the way you played at times? Stroll on fella. Just because you got out of your penalty box this time round doesn’t mean you were any good. But I understand your need to take solace from the game.

05 Jan 2018 22:55:52
Ok I apologised earlier but you’re testing my patience Ed0333. Now enjoy your victory on your own page and leave us alone.

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05 Jan 2018 23:06:32
To be fair Ed0333. He Nick was right. You only scored through a weak weak penalty and Pickford screwing up.

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{Ed0333's Note - let me begin my tirade by saying I use copious amounts of irony when I edit because otherwise I would lose the will to live. If you only knew the kind of abuse the Ed’s got you’d appreciate my reasoning. Oh heck who am I kidding I’d still be sarcastic and acerbic even if I didn’t get slagged off. With regards to the game yes we scored off the back of a weak penalty but we should have had that game wrapped up before you scored. And to answer a previous poster asking me to stick to the Liverpool page I’m afraid that’s not possible because It would be a dereliction of duty I’m obliged to edit on all sites. Love you

05 Jan 2018 23:21:02
Lol Ed. So we stuck with ya rubbing it in our faces hahaha.

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05 Jan 2018 23:59:42
Ed033 is too funny. New guy? Not seen much of you before but welcome! Sadly another pool fan but we have Ed25 to fight for us.

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{Ed025's Note - i will back our guys to the hilt mate..

06 Jan 2018 00:24:02
Except the goalies ed you need another one ASAP. Thought we played better than we have in recent games but still dcl work hard all game and we didn’t create a chance for him and it’s making some people say he’s a bad player he’s not just not getting the service. Hopefully when Wmbangs a couple in he can go on a. I’ve little run and get some goals that he deserves.

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05 Jan 2018 22:31:10
It’s clear from everyone’s post what we all want. Bolasie on one side Lookman on the other Sigurdson in no10 with Hopefully Tosun doing the business and DCL gradually coming in. Gueye and McCarthy in CM and Coleman and Baines to come back. Kenny and Jags good tonight.
I know Holgate was wrong to push Firmino but good to see passion and he still looked cool in the game. He is going to be a top player. Firmino is a horrible little b*****d good to see him getting wound up.

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05 Jan 2018 22:18:24
Mildly disappointed after the equalizer that we didn't hang on but in all honesty - and some on here may not like this - we are not as good as them in so many areas at the moment. We struggle to hold the ball up. We are weak and often clueless when we get possession. More importantly we haven't quite got enough pace in the squad. Hopefully all those areas can and will be improved asap.

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{Ed025's Note - fair assessment that bigH..

05 Jan 2018 22:29:50
I am starting to sound like a right moaner but seriously this Scheiderlin fella has to go. I just do not get it, he must have one heck of an agent. It is either a pass sideways or a quick lay off so he does not look bad. Watch the game and through him it slows down. Get him off the park and the whole team speed up.

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05 Jan 2018 22:46:05
Agree ducks. He just seems really slow to me. In the tackle, on the ball he's a yard off the pace every game.

Davies came on and he injected some direct running which we lacked before. Put him with either Mccarthy or Gana for me. I know some have it in for him but I think he helps drive us forward.

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05 Jan 2018 23:00:52
Poor decision from Pickford cost us tonight but like all the youngsters he needs to learn from it.

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06 Jan 2018 01:39:58
The corner should of been defended better either way. That would have gone in if pickford stayed on his line. What happened to putting players on the posts?

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06 Jan 2018 09:45:53
Not sure how McCarthy, probably the shortest guy in the pitch, ended up trying to mark Van Dijk for the corner. That said Pickford should have been coming the other side of Van Dijk, although hard to slate Pickford when he’s been fantastic on the whole so far.

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05 Jan 2018 22:15:47
Well what have we learnt?

On our day we can give a good side a game.
We desperately need Tosun in the team asap.
Our next signing needs to be a LB.
Lookman needs more game time and Bolasie is looking quick as he was before.

We did well tonight even though our shots on target was poor again.

Big Sam still making some strange decisions. Why Schneiderlin? And why take DCL off when Niasse came on when we were on top!

Hopefully big Sam is discovering that we have talented players who and bringing them in slowly like Loookman and Vlasic.
Here's hoping Klassen and Sandro are given time and a chance this season

All in all some positives to take from the game and I am a bit more confident we can goto spurs and give them a game.

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05 Jan 2018 22:20:09
No idea how Schneiderlin gets in the starting eleven week in week out, can someone explain to an old fart?

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05 Jan 2018 22:27:32
Because there’s no1else mate.

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05 Jan 2018 22:09:57
Can't fault the lads for the way they gave it a go tonight few little things:-
Lookman needs more playing time caused problems and gave us pace.
Schneiderlin needs dripping hopefully Nzonzi to replace him
And Sig needs to be the number 10 sitting in the centre think him and Tosun will be good together.
Let's focus now on the next game see what team Sam picks can't wait to see Tosun and hopefully abit of fight from the lads.

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05 Jan 2018 22:00:59
Lookman needs more playing time he's a firecracker. I'm just so fed up losing to this lot it's just boring now how many games is that now 145.

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{Ed0333's Note - lookman does indeed look like a player.

05 Jan 2018 22:11:55
If Lookman plays left-wing, we need a proper left-back behinfd him.

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05 Jan 2018 22:25:49
Iv been saying this for ages he’s young and hungry he needs games but fans get on his back like they do with most of the young lads ie (Barkley) which is going to knock there confidence hopefully Big Sam has faith and plays him because he will be the £50 mil player we need. give him a go he has the tools let him use them. We were unlucky tonight, the lads had a go that’s all we wanted to show a bit of fight hopefully this Tosun can get us the goals we need and get us WINNING again COYB Everton aren’t we.

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06 Jan 2018 00:27:54
Never seen the fans get on DCL back or Kenny or Davies maybe the fans just get on the backs of the players who don't perform ie Barkley. We had 3 players that won the u20 World Cup with England on the pitch today in DCL, Lookman and Kenny and yet the way the BBC commentators went on about a certain over priced Dutchman was embarrassing, we have a bright future with these lads, game time will come for Lookman once he gets disciplined in the defensive side of his game and hopefully he is aware of this. We lost one 'prospect' today but in these 3 and add to that Dowell and Pickford and Holgate who again today was brilliant, we have a bright future ahead. If these players were at a different club the press would be all over them as the future of English football, yet no mention of how Everton as a club are nurturing home grown talent and giving them the vital experience needed in the top flight, how many other clubs do this?

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05 Jan 2018 22:02:02
Unlucky blues. we got beat but proud that we gave it a go. I think tonight highlights that rooney has to get a bit player and sigs as number 10.
Lookman must start now and a left back is desperate.

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{Ed025's Note - that works for me pauly, at least we gave it a decent tilt mate..

05 Jan 2018 22:12:46
I thought we showed character. Jagielka was magnificent tonight.

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{Ed025's Note - i totally agree bobby..

05 Jan 2018 22:31:58
Lookman is one of a very select number of players in the Everton side that I think opposition teams would worry about, he is direct, Pacey, it’s better than the slow sideways passing of some of the others. Lookman is an exciting prospect for you guys. How legate didn’t forget himself in glory today but Kennedy looks a solid player.

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05 Jan 2018 22:35:17
Tell you what watching that game, I would rather play Williams in the back and Jags (used to play DM) in Scheiderlins position. This until we bring in players that can do the do.

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05 Jan 2018 21:52:21
We need to play all of our remaining games like it’s a cup game. Played well once we put additional forward thinking players on.

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{Ed025's Note - i agree chalkie..

05 Jan 2018 22:02:47
How much better when Siggys in the position we bought him for, lookman looked good and bolasie is getting fitter!
Can’t wait to seeTosun lead the line!

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{Ed025's Note - we have a lot to look forward to wakka..

05 Jan 2018 22:15:01
It was good to watch us having a go, but we still need to pick up points for safety in the Premier League.

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{Ed025's Note - we do bobby but i must say i was encouraged by tonights show mate..

05 Jan 2018 22:40:58
And consistency. To fill the positions that really need filling will cost us a fortune and certainly unavailable in January. We will not get relegated but we will also not set the League alight with this current squad unless they start playing as a team.

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05 Jan 2018 21:44:52
Ahhhhh I don't no y we play them if we played them for another 100 years we would not win so fed up sick sick sick of loosing to them getting so boring now ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

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{Ed0333's Note - you might beat us in a 100 years mate

05 Jan 2018 21:58:41
I doubt it lol.

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{Ed0333's Note - lol lol lol

05 Jan 2018 21:59:58
16 Merseyside derbies without a win to quote peter ried ROTTEN.

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05 Jan 2018 22:00:01
Get off our page Ed not in the mood.

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{Ed025's Note - i agree chalkie..

05 Jan 2018 22:06:09
I apologise ed0333 it’s a banter page so I guess it’s just banter. Congratulations you’re the better team, however I’m not too disheartened as the display was better and made for a good watch.

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05 Jan 2018 21:33:09
15 mins left and i can't bare to watch.

I have to say i'm so proud of the youth coming through at the club, Lookman, DCL, Davies, Kenny, Baningime looks like he has a future, Holgate identified as a prospect and brought in. What a wonderful team we'll have as they develop.

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{Ed0333's Note - squeaky bum time mate

05 Jan 2018 21:52:03
Trouble is when they are playing in front of £25m signings the club has a lot to answer for in respect to recruitment!
Totally agree but our investments must start to deliver results.

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05 Jan 2018 22:01:32
That makes no sense Wakka. Why should a 25m signing be better than a talented youngster coming through the ranks? Whose to say one of them isn't a 50 mil player and therefore deserved of the team place.

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05 Jan 2018 21:13:18
Sorry but is Martina just one of the worse players we've signed in the last ten years!

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05 Jan 2018 20:54:46
Has anybody else just seen the official video of us welcoming Cenk Tosun?

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05 Jan 2018 21:52:49
Yes look forward to seeing him in the shirt.

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05 Jan 2018 22:01:19
Need another 10 strikers.

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05 Jan 2018 22:26:43
Confidence and form win games. We need a left back and a creative midfielder. Its not hard to see.

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05 Jan 2018 20:49:50
I am sorry but the standard of refereeing in this Country since they turned professional is really awful. Yes Holgate had a hold but you see this week in week out and nothing is done. All we ask is consistency. You can bet your bottom dollar that if that were a Liverpool player holding nothing would have been given.

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05 Jan 2018 22:49:21
It's exactly the same as the decision you got against us in the league mate. Stop moaning and look at the interview big Sam gave after the league game. Seriously unbelievable!

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05 Jan 2018 19:23:14
Good luck Ross Barkley at Chelsea.

Some of the guff that I’m reading is just plain embarrassing and people seriously need to get a grip.

Yes, I’m as disappointed as the next blue that he’s gone, in fact I’m gutted. Such a prodigious talent, a blue . one of us. But, I don’t blame him and I don’t think it’s about money. He will have history reasons etc etc..

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05 Jan 2018 19:34:00
I was big fan of him also, says a lot about the club that we couldn't convince him to stay.

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05 Jan 2018 19:48:25
Well said that Man.

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05 Jan 2018 19:54:48
True, Pierre, but he did take an awful lot of money in wages and the cost of physio care for 6 months, while apparently solving Chelsea's problem of "how can we possibly justify buying a half season injured player for £35 million when he only has a year left on a contract he has absolutely zero desire to renew? " And to think people say he's not clever!

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05 Jan 2018 19:02:49
5 changes for us tonight.

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05 Jan 2018 19:45:18
Is Gana Injured? Why is Schneids in again?! He must be astonishing in training to keep getting selected.

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05 Jan 2018 19:02:45
Outgoing: Barkley - Chelsea = 5 minutes. Incoming: In this case but could be labelled 'A N Other' Tosun - Everton = Forever.

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05 Jan 2018 19:17:40
Some one else who's saying what I've said, but I was deluded for saying this, but it's true, look out for the your bitter ECT ECT that's about to follow your post.

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05 Jan 2018 19:50:43
No Blue_heart, I do not attribute blame or responsibility to any particular person, it is a collective attitude. No one person or persons doing the negotiating in business (and that is what this is) can act autonomously, they have to act under the auspices of the elected/ voted/ share holder (s) executive will/ agreement.

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05 Jan 2018 18:53:31
Why is it we only tend to buy a player when it seems to be on good authority that we are selling a player - we just bought this new forward and amazingly we have just sold barkley practically on the same day - seems we are trying to balance the books to certain extenct - and yes there is a difference of 12 million in the negative but this is far better that 27 million down

In the summer we only spent big money on Sigs when it was agreed Lukaka was going. just a thought.

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{Ed025's Note - ross was always going pavillion, i think your looking too much into conspiracy theories mate..

05 Jan 2018 19:09:01
Would hesitate to call it conspiracy theory Ed, just maybe sometimes we are a little cautious financially, the old 'bird in the hand' (God I miss those days LOL) .

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05 Jan 2018 18:47:04
Walsh gone to Bristol. Proper disappointed with that. Watched him more than enough times live with the U23's an i think he's a class player.

Maybe a little under developed physically to be ready yet. Another loan was the right choice.

Feel this one will come back to bite us on the arse.

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05 Jan 2018 18:18:35
Thought as a Chelsea fan I'd offer my two-penneth on Barkley. I think we've got a good deal at £15m, he is a decent player and most importantly he can actually shoot from long range. Is he good enough? Time will tell, but I think he needed the fresh start and Conte will work him hard. Feel a bit sorry for your lot for not getting £30m for him like the summer, but I think Sigurdsson, Rooney and Davies should be adequate cover. Good luck for the derby this evening, would much prefer a blue win than a red one.
Also, Tosun will be a cracking signing for your lot. Watched a lot of him, he reminds me of Costa without quite the nasty streak.

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{Ed025's Note - ross really needed to get away from merseyside RJ, we do feel a bit robbed over the fee but that happens mate..

05 Jan 2018 18:42:00
Now you know how we felt when you got Lukaku!

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{Ed025's Note - fair point RJ..

05 Jan 2018 19:12:12
Agree with Ed, nothing to do with Barkleys ability or undoubted loyalty to Everton Football Club. He needed to get away. Not complicated just fact.

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05 Jan 2018 18:15:42
Good luck to Liam Walsh at Bristol City. We may well see him play at Goodison if his new club are promoted.

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{Ed025's Note - or if we are relegated bobby.. :)

05 Jan 2018 18:27:19
Hope we are putting buy back clauses in these sales with young players.

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05 Jan 2018 19:13:55
Agree Swan, some of them need development and some of them are rubbish hot. As punters we are not down the training ground everyday, that's all I can say.

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05 Jan 2018 19:43:54
And also in the Barkley deal lol.

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05 Jan 2018 19:45:47
The Eds (quite rightly) edited my comment to eradicate the profanity (on these pages anyway) but the editing did not define the original meaning. How about some of them are like red hot sugar off a shovel. xxx Eds.

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05 Jan 2018 18:14:28
The timing of Barkley's departure on the day of an FA Cup derby is going to make it a very an emotional night. Let's just hope we go for it and get the win.

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05 Jan 2018 18:11:09
am up for the match tonight 0-2 to the Mighty Blues, we can do it.

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{Ed025's Note - oh how i would love that to come true GB..

05 Jan 2018 18:30:56
Would love you forever Ed LOL.

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05 Jan 2018 17:57:25
Why are we discussing Ross Barkley this is the Everton page not the Chelsea page 🤣.

We've got a big game on tonight let's beat the reds.

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{Ed025's Note - that would be very nice smit..

05 Jan 2018 18:17:52
100% agree Smit mate.

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05 Jan 2018 18:18:04
0-2 for me mate.

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05 Jan 2018 17:51:51
I am actually becoming embarrassed to be on here.

Do you guys realise that there are more posts on here going on about Barkley than there is about our new signing Tosun. There are more posts on here over the past 5 days moaning about how long it takes for us to sign a player than there is about our new signing Tosun. There are more posts on here slagging off Barkley than there is about tonights game with our biggest rival.

I know this will be difficult for many of you but try and be at least a little bit positive.

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{Ed025's Note - i cant disagree with that grumpy mate..

05 Jan 2018 17:43:53
People are entitled to express their opinions about the Barkley transfer, just as others are entitled to, disagree with those opinions, but the only thing that matters is that the two clubs and the player reached an acceptable agreement. I hope we can all move on, especially as there's much more work still to be done on and off the field at Everton.

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{Ed025's Note - spot on bobby..

05 Jan 2018 17:22:13
Barkley: Chelsea sign midfielder from Everton for £15m, can you see him getting in the first team? what a waste, (sub)

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05 Jan 2018 17:21:02
Barkley completed. 5 and half years is long time for someone with his injury record. Hope he does well but just can't see him getting in their team. Agree with someone below. Are they signing English players just because of the quota required.

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05 Jan 2018 17:17:20
With Barkley and Jones leaving, that's freed up 2 places in the 25-man squad. Expect Tosun to fill one of those.

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05 Jan 2018 17:53:36
Good point Sid.

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05 Jan 2018 17:55:18
Cool just need Schneiderlin and mirallas to go now and were rid of all the deadwood.

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05 Jan 2018 18:48:40
I think we have a bit more than that Smit mate.

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05 Jan 2018 21:51:47
True Degsy.

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05 Jan 2018 16:46:42
Conte said Barkley is a good prospect, that's were the problem is he is 24 and should be more or less the finished article. He has stood still or even gone backwards for the last 2/ 3 years, Good deal for us. Ross have a look at Jeffers, Rodwell etc after they went for the greener grass!

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05 Jan 2018 17:08:41
Conte just said the club signed him and not Conte himself.

Reeks of Chelsea signing English players for the sake of it.

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05 Jan 2018 17:17:07
I can't help a bit of animosity towards him for not going in the summer for a much bigger fee, I do think he'll end up warming the bench there.

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05 Jan 2018 16:41:04
Adding to my post below, i can fully understand why some posters think he has done the dirty on Everton, it does now seem that he has stuck two fingers up at all Everton fans, hold my hands up folks sorry, and I now think I can see through the lad, not counting the revenue the Club have lost by him not going earlier.

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05 Jan 2018 17:34:53
I have seen his quotes saying how he’s looking forward to playing for Chelsea. No thank you to Everton or it’s supporters. He will not be welcomed back to Everton anytime soon. I think it’s worse than Rooney leaving. At least we got top dollar and couldn’t offer anything to him at the time in a struggling team and Utd offered trophies etc.

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05 Jan 2018 17:56:14
This is where the bitter hang out.
Get over it lads. He was bang average anyway. Good riddance.

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05 Jan 2018 19:13:49
Spot on B. B. big thumbs up from me for your updated post.

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05 Jan 2018 16:27:00
£15m For Barkley + Add ons.

Not too bad as he only has 6 months left.

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05 Jan 2018 17:09:29
Should’ve tried our best to get Batshuayi or Musonda in exchange.

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05 Jan 2018 17:16:43
4 months ago he walked away from a £35m deal for us so yes it is bad, he done the dirty to line his own pockets.

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05 Jan 2018 16:06:38
Barkley going (gone) . Tosun in (almost) . Key point of Sam's presser yesterday was made around buying players at prime age (and mentality) to compliment our youth.

New year and have to look forward following a shambolic 2017.

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05 Jan 2018 15:45:20
Just came over to Liverpool to get our tickets and been stood up. Typical. Enjoy the game blues.

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05 Jan 2018 16:13:33
that's rubbish that toffee where have you travelled from.

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05 Jan 2018 16:28:09
Sorry to hear that mate.

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05 Jan 2018 17:30:04
Only Ellesmere Port mate but same guy let me down for the one in December aswell.

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{Ed025's Note - sorry to hear that joe, get yourself in a pub and just enjoy the craic mate..

05 Jan 2018 18:36:12
Will do mate enjoy the game. Let's hope for a win.

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{Ed025's Note - everything crossed here joe..

05 Jan 2018 12:38:17
Take it tosun not in team tonight.

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05 Jan 2018 12:53:36
FA registration wouldn’t have been an issue, however international clearance would have to have gone in yesterday, which it hadn’t.
No worries we’ve got him for the long haul.

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05 Jan 2018 13:54:15
Not sorted out personal terms yet.

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05 Jan 2018 15:41:24
He will be at Anfield to watch the derby, let's hope we put in a good performance.

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05 Jan 2018 16:28:49
Heard the same thing Stig mate.

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05 Jan 2018 11:52:11
Contrary to some I think the Tosun transfer has gone through quite smoothly this time, i see below some posters below saying how drawn out it has been, if Tosun had failed his medical or whatever we would have had posters on here immediately saying it can only happen to Everton blah blah, also we are still getting some toxic posts on here re Ross, maybe it was down to the boo boys who kept on at him at Everton and that could be why he is off, anyway on a lighter note I see Big Sam has been nominated for manager of the month hope he gets it for what he has done at our Club in such a short time.

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05 Jan 2018 12:40:29
Agree 100 % with the first half of that GB. Fans should never be listened to when it comes to critique of transfer dealings. Not a single commentator has a clue what's been going on. Just cherry pick the details to suit their vitriol.

Unfortunately I think you and B. S. should get a room GB. You love him long time. I agree the results initially were what mattered but the football is atrocious. I'm actually embarrassed to watch the games. I want to see him play some football but he never has and never will. Everyone got their knickers in a twist whenever RK was quoted on his long-term future because he was often stating his future hopes were away from EFC yet B. S. is able to humiliate us in press conferences to the same end. He has stated we can't compete and are a small club that can never expect to win with the top 6. Double standards? Hypocrisy
As a EFC fan I hoped to eat my words but as the weeks go on, I am appalled by what I see. I know the GBs and GTs love the big faced man. Hahahahaha oh well opinions make the world go round.

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05 Jan 2018 13:13:27
Your right there mate cheers, game of opinions as you say.

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05 Jan 2018 14:14:44
It’s quite comical to read some of the posts on the Echo site just because we have not been able to register or announce the signing of Cenk yet.
Everyone blaming BK or SW for cocking it up.
The guy is sorting his contract with his agent and the club to get the best terms possible and the club will be negotiating as best they can to limit financial exposure, it takes time.
The main thing is we will have him for the long haul and hopefully we will see a decent player emerge in a blue shirt.
Some fans think the games all over now as he won’t be available to play, we still have the same chance as we did this time yesterday, or when the draw was made.

Please god we play an attacking line up and give it a go, I’m not sure I can take any more of the tactics of the last few games. COYB.

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05 Jan 2018 14:45:39
Arent the reds umming and ahhing over whether to play Van dyke and he has been in the premier league for years and at his new club all week.
maybe rushing this guy in is not the best idea, we've seen how throwing foreign players in straight away and having a big expectation from the off.
Lets not have another Sandro, Klassen and Vlasic moment.

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05 Jan 2018 15:54:16
Gb, I tend to agree with a lot of your posts and have on occasions said the same about the boo boys and Ross, however, in all my time going back to the Barmby two fingers at us after we got him back to the top.

I have never felt as angry as to how Barkley has shafted us big time, he had the chance to sign and give Everton a decent return, instead he headed back, use finch farm and our top physios, pick up his wages, then cost us not just £20 Millions, but wages on top as well.

Lukaku, Rooney, Lescott, Stones all left, but they didn’t wind their contract right down, we got a decent return for them.

Ross has to look after himself and put himself first, but the way he has done it has lost any respect I had for the player.

Sorry if I disagree Gb but that’s why a lot of Blues are pissed off with the player.

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05 Jan 2018 16:16:12
I have to say I never booed Ross in fact I came close to blows with a few fans who did but I fully understand the abuse he is getting and he deserves it he has used our great club to get himself a bigger signing on fee I for one will never welcome him back to goodison park.

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05 Jan 2018 16:19:32
no worries mate game of opinions cheers.

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05 Jan 2018 16:42:00
Sadly for Barkley it is his personal life that he has problems with. If it is all over the girl and the alleged "Gangsters" she associates herself with, then maybe he is better off away from the city, I really am not sure.

Whatever the reason is I still feel he has gone about it in the wrong way. How we are as a club now, it was inevitable he would leave and I am happy he has decided to do it now and not wait for the final 6 months to expire. Saying that we are a club that is in a transition stage, we will emerge a better and stronger side that will be ready to move into a new stadium within a few seasons, no matter who is manager, and I think he will regret leaving us.

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05 Jan 2018 10:43:17
Can any of the Eds please explain why most Everton signings seem to be a huge drawn out process.
Are we a bit naive when it come mea to announcing our interest. Maybe the club should just stay quiet until deal in last stages.
Sigurdsson Sandro last window and now Tolson this window.

FYI - I promosed myself I wouldn't check the transfer news every 2 mins as I "spoilt" last years holiday in Greece apparently checking for Sandro signing in the summer.
Looks like Tolson siffning has ruined new year (and any chance if sex) - he better be good! Hahaha.

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{Ed025's Note - i must agree sobs we do have problems when it comes to getting transfers across the line...maybe were just crap at it..

05 Jan 2018 11:06:47
I am not by any means saying it was down to Moyes, but in his time we did just sign players without all the fuss. This may not have been every signing, but in the main we just signed them and the first thing supporters knew was when the photo appeared in the echo. There seemed to be a policy change when Koeman took over from Martinez. Because even a few Martinez signings were done efficiently and silently. But now you are right. we seem to announce a signing. Then figures in the press appear that both clubs announce. EFC's figure is often way above what the other club says. I find it very weird.

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05 Jan 2018 11:06:56
Do you not think fans of all clubs think that? You do not follow their transfer dealings so it is hard to compare.
For example how long is it taking Chelsea to secure Barkley?

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05 Jan 2018 11:22:17
Doesn’t seem many clubs have the sissiko problem or the Giroud carry on. We could have had Sigurdson a month earlier rather than getting him a month after he was training alone and not match fit.

If you are going to sell lakaku then most clubs would have a deal done or kept him until a deal was done rather than panicking all summer.

Valencia signing 2 years ago was awful.

Barkley not going to Chelsea was purely down to Ross. You watch how quick the deal gets done this time.

Maybe we are just a bit more classy when it comes to dealing with people we are selling.

Lakaku Arteta Stones Rodwell Rooney all left pretty quick once money agreed. None of them were dragged out.

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05 Jan 2018 12:20:12
I remember the Harry Catterick days when a player had made 3 appearances and Harry was still denying we had any interest.

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05 Jan 2018 16:17:21
We’ve got to have one bad thing ed we can’t be perfect 😂😂😂.

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{Ed025's Note - that made me smile eddy..

05 Jan 2018 10:07:17
all well and good getting annoyed over ross barkley but happens in football all the time onto the next hopefully start with something positive tonight.

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05 Jan 2018 11:08:53
What doesn't always happen in football is a £35m deal is struck, only for the player to pull out of the deal spend the next 4 months on the treatment table and then decide oh ye Chelsea is alright and do the club you supposedly support out of £20m! The whole thing stinks of a signing on fee higher by saving them transfer amount, to me he will always and should always get a hostile reception if this goes through, if he thought it was bad when he played for us and couldn't handle a few fans on his back, he certainly won't be able to handle a full Goodison booing his every touch.

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{Ed002's Note - Another bitter supporter from Merseyside. I have never known football supporters to have so little grasp of the transfer process and whine constantly how hard doe by they are as much as the two Merseyside clubs.}

05 Jan 2018 12:30:37
We are not all bitter Ed. I wish the lad well and hope he plays to his potential. Except when playing us!

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{Ed002's Note - Good for you.}

05 Jan 2018 12:45:32
ahahaha ed 002 got to love how blunt you are at times mate xD.

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05 Jan 2018 13:36:17
Bitter ain't the right word chelsea are welcome to that scumbag.

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05 Jan 2018 13:40:28
So enlighten me then Ed002 how is it that signing 4 months after an initial deal was struck and for a reported £20m less this time around does not get you wondering that a sly deal was struck between the player and Chelsea at the time he was there to do this all along? I'm not in the slightest bothered he is going as I am only interested in players that want to be here, what I am not happy about is how this deal has panned out, call me bitter all you want but to me its about being passionate about your club and not seeing them being made a fool of, especially by a fool who claimed to be a blue all along.

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{Ed002's Note - You are simply paranoid with the standard everyone is against us view point prevalent amongst many Merseyside fans. Chelsea don’t look for ways to cheat. Suck it up and move on.}

05 Jan 2018 15:04:50
it's business not personal BG so don't let it get to you.

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05 Jan 2018 23:55:15
Tapping up Rio Ferdinand chelsea never cheat.

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05 Jan 2018 09:55:24
Looks like Ross is finally off to Chelsea. wonder if we could get Batshuyi as part of the deal, in another deal get Nzongi as part of the Sandro deal, your thoughts folks.

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05 Jan 2018 09:59:42
Should have said if Sandro leaves.

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05 Jan 2018 10:08:20
Would be great if we could get Batshuyi in, even as a loan with a view to buy in the summer, however I doubt it will come on the back of the Ross deal as they have us over a barrel on that one I believe.
As for Nzongi, he would be a great addition, however I would rather see someone else leave to accommodate him rather than Sandro.
I still believe there is mileage in Sandro, if we can start looking to play balls through, and he has someone to play off.

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05 Jan 2018 10:29:01
A think I agree with you there chalkiei mate, You never know Sandro might turn out to be a gem cheers.

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05 Jan 2018 13:02:39
Guernsey his name is nzonzi just had to get that off my chest.

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05 Jan 2018 17:02:01
We should just loan Sandro out, let him build his confidence back up. He's barely had a chance, we could regret selling him big time.

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05 Jan 2018 09:33:46
We all knew ross was leaving but after he turned Chelsea down for 35 mil we thought he was waiting for spurs.
Now looks like he is signing for Chelsea for only 15 mil. He really does not give 2 hoots about our club.
I still wish him Well, he is a blue after all but I see him struggling to break into Chelsea team ahead of hazard, willian or Pedro.

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05 Jan 2018 09:42:35
Just wanna add.
Although we know 20 mil is nothing in this day and age, (if ross had gone in the summer) it could help us to get better quality in as replacement and he would have been away from all the fracas he is going through in the city.
My only concern is London is bigger and brighter with lots more problems. I hope he's matured and can cope with it.

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05 Jan 2018 11:10:38
Chelsea also have Drinkwater, Kante, Fabregas and Moses Geoffjohno. He will struggle to get on the bench if he does not apply himself 110% and have some luck with injuries. But with a midfield squad like that Chelsea will challenge Man City soon.

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05 Jan 2018 13:38:04
Signing Barkley won't get them any closer to city.

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05 Jan 2018 03:27:31
I think Ross is being a very silly boy.
Whether he is ill advised or has a massive chip on his shoulder i don't know.
All i can say to him is London is the wrong move for you.
I think he has all the potential in the world but he seems to hit a wall just when he is progressing.
Maybe he shouldve left his mates to go out partying and knuckled down a bit more. I don't know but what i do know is London will ruin him.
He used to date a girl in my family and she left him because of his "ways".
Someone at our club shouldve put a big protective arm around him and made sure he realised what an opportunity he had been given but sadly it looks like we've lost him to the big lights and big promises of london.
Good luck because youll need it.

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05 Jan 2018 08:03:13
I think that he may well be foing something that we are all guilty of from time to time: blaming others for our troubles.
He arrived on the scene to fanfares of praise. He was praised unstintingly by Martinez as he made his way oit of the England squad. Then he came under the "tough love" regime of Koeman where I suspect he recognised tough far more readily than he recognised the love.
It is very easy in those circumstances for any of us to minimise our role by blaming others : "I was badly managed"; "I was badly coached" "I was never played in the same position twice"
It isn't in his agent's interests to disabuse him of those thoughts. Soon he believes that if only he can get away then all will be well; a thought not discouraged by this season's mayhem.
Like the rest of us who are guilty of that thinking, unless he acceprs his responibilty for his situation then he may well be doomed to repeat it elsewhere.

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05 Jan 2018 08:06:06
I don’t see Barkley progression as a player, I remember a couple of years ago saying he won’t develop and he hasn’t. He hasn’t got the mentality to succeed at the highest level, if he’s terrified of fans putting pressure on him then he needs to retire now. Look at Raheem Sterling, tons of pressure on him to do well and hated by Liverpool fans and he’s thriving in it, that pressure has made him a better player. Ross won’t do that, he’s weak minded and I know people will say “well it’s not nice having your own fans booing you every week”, well that’s nonsense isn’t it, Ross isn’t being bullied by our fans, hell, some of our fans worship him to the extreme of saying he’s one of our greatest ever midfielders and he’s more talented than Rooney was and Sigurdsson can’t lace his boots etc. He’ll go to Chelsea and be exactly like Rodwell, he may have a good few games (as Ross does) and have people calling him the scouse Zidane or some nonsense. Think Ross should focus on getting better at football and not doing what Jose Baxter and George Green were doing and ruining their nostrils.

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05 Jan 2018 09:00:05
Wow there is nothing like a home grown player to raise opinion levels is there? I think some of you are talking a bit emotionally. Yes footballers are a fortunate lot. Yes fans have different opinions. But also yes they are young men under lots of pressure for lots of reasons. I know from Sterling's point of view that he was also a bit of a bad lad, but has fortunately matured and done ok. That was after changing clubs. Perhaps a change of clubs is what Barkley needs? Perhaps he suffered one triple leg break that hampered his career? Perhaps he has been out injured for a long period due to a hamstring injury and post operation? Perhaps he is still only 24 with potentially another 10 years? Perhaps Chelsea and Spurs recognise he has some talent and hence wish to chase after him? Perhaps its not just Lukakus goals and presence we have missed? Time will tell. Yes he may do a Rodwell. I suspect there is talent there and he is more likely to do something in between Rodwell and Sterling. I still think there is a very good footballer who has suffered injury and confidence problems. Yes I also suspect he is not the brightest button. but maybe he will mature? I hope so but not at our expense.

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05 Jan 2018 09:24:13
Ok. Two points I’d like to make on this and keep it simple.
Firstly, regardless of his age, he is an inconsistent performer. This was excused when he was very young. But now rheee is no excuse as he’s had ample time to get more consistent but still struggles.

Secondly, his personal life has developed to the point where he needs to get far away from the city, so he will.

Putting the two points together and you have issues that are entirely his responsibility. He’s not going to play for us again so it’s fair to say thanks for your services and all the best in your new club.

Now let’s go and find someone to do his job better.

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05 Jan 2018 09:24:46
Footballers are under no more or no less pressure than us mere mortals Barkley is a good player that has had a great opportunity given to him by his hard work and no doubt a bit of luck. The fact that his career has stalled is down to choices he has made. I can't recall him once saying anything negative about the club as a whole so as far as I am concerned whether he stays or leaves good luck to the lad.

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05 Jan 2018 09:39:49
The difference is this, Sterling, whilst he had inconsistent performances, there were things he could improve, his shooting and ball retention which he has improved. The stuff Ross needs to improve can’t be taught, I just don’t see the talent people go on about, talent is either having one big attribute (like Sterling with pace and trickery) or being good at a few things (Dele Alli) , Ross doesn’t have any one good attribute to name, I’m not saying he’s terrible, he’s not, I’m simply saying he’s never going to be good at everything but doesn’t have that one trick to do. It’s obvious what he’s going to do, go left then right then left then hit it at the defender, same thing every time since he was 17. I’m made up he’s going for many reasons but it’s going to be a laugh seeing people who labelled him the next Gerrard try and explain themselves. He’s nowhere near Gerrard, anyone who has read my posts on here knows I don’t rate Jack Wilshere in the slightest and still don’t (outperforming Xhaka in 2 games doesn’t make you good Arsenal fans) but even he is better than Barkley.

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05 Jan 2018 12:40:22
Black and white are words that spring to mind. Good and bad. a few others I could list too. But in reality, most things lie somewhere between. Barkley was 2nd highest scorer with 8 2 seasons ago. He had most assists for us if I remember right. That was his only full season without major injury too since he matured I think. Yes there is room for improvement. but at 23 and being a full international and knowing that Chelsea and Spurs (and probably a lot of others that we don't know about) wanted him. just tells me not to rule him out just yet. I understand what you say about his technique Swan. He is not the most mobile of players, but he could dribble and shoot. Quite a few of his goals were from outside the box and I don't see anyone other than Rooney who will score 8 this season. especially from midfield. I would rather him stay. But if he has to go. good luck Ross Barkley. but not against us!

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