Everton Banter Archive September 04 2013

 

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04 Sep 2013 22:41:41
Not a rumour but where do the fans think we will finish and who's your thoughts of winnin the league? {Ed025's Note - 6th...chelsea

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Most likely 5th, 6th or 7th; best possible would be 4th; worst would be top ten. Can't see us - as long as our first choice players stay clear of injuries and suspensions - finishing in bottom half of the table.

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Between 9th and 11th but with a good platform to start a new generation. Bit like Liverpool last year. And I also think Chelsea for the league, city second, Arsenal 3rd Gollums scabs 4th and spurrs 5th rubbish 6th

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Somewhere between 6th and 8th, with a good cup run to boot. Chelsea to win the title.

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I think we will finish 8th mate, which wouldn't be too bad under a new manager.

I want Chelsea to win the league simply because i'm a big fan of the special one

Just to throw it in there I also want Melt down Utd to finish 5th, imagine them in the Europa league, would piss myself for weeks

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04 Sep 2013 22:14:17
ed I wanted to get evertonians thoughts on the foreign player fa thing and it was posted on the dodgy rumours site why? he is on tv right now giving this speech and because its on the dodgy rumours site people cannot reply which is why I posted in the first place so why was it put on the dodgy rumours site? {Ed025's Note - it was not everton related mate, sorry

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04 Sep 2013 22:24:00
ah I understand

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He begged as well ed! :-)

TJ

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04 Sep 2013 21:56:06
Wish people would stop moaning that we are broke"look we got 3 signing and felliani left. we had money for mcarthy b4 we even sold felliani.so onwards and upwards!

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Im not 100% we did have the mccarthy money myself, all the the deals seem to happen at the same time and seemed to domino

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04 Sep 2013 20:46:37
Why are so many people moaning about money and transfers, shut up ffs, we kept Bainesee and have some cracking buys

Cheer the feck up will ye and stop feckin moaning about anything you can think of

Bills bad
Alcaraz is a cripple
Lukaku has an attitude
Felli was rubbish
Felli was good
Kone is a fraud
Weres our money
Barry is a has been
Mccarthy is too expensive

Aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh, shut up and cheer up ffs its getting feckin boring ffs

Sorry about that, just think it needed saying

Degsy the optimist

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Well said!

Tree Blue

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04 Sep 2013 19:55:15
There should be no moaning from anyone about our dealings in the transfer window.

7 players in with some real quality in there as well.

A little profit made to either clear up some debt or even help press on with some investigating of our new stadium. Either way financially we are now better off.

No more reports in the press about Fellaini wanting to play champions league footy.

And Baines to complete his legacy as a true Everton Legend.

A genuine feeling of optimism about our season.

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04 Sep 2013 19:32:22
Can anyone confirm how the Barry loan deal is set up for his wages? Are we paying half his 120k a week?

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04 Sep 2013 20:47:49
Ive heard that mate, 60k a piece, I know he won't be on that next season though lol

Degs

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04 Sep 2013 19:02:13
now that the dust has settled I can only
see good things for us. still amazed how we got lukaku brilliant piece of work by the club.
delighted with mccarthy maybe a bit over the top on valuation now but i'm sure will be worth it in the long run
teacht ar tú gormacha
irish blue

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Like Alan Myers seems to relish his job and keeping the supporters in then know

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04 Sep 2013 18:27:14
To all the people asking if we have money left to spend in January.

Wake up people, the Felliani money was used to buy Mcarthey and bring the loanees in. Without that there would of probably been Barry t best. We offered 12 for Mccarthey spread over 4 years? What type of deal is that for a club that allegedly has the money to buy him then Felliani goes and we all of a sudden have 14 million to pay up front.

Think about it everyone, the deals were last minute for a reason and that was we were waiting on the Felliani money before we could move on them. There will be no money in January just like there never is. The profits made from Mondays dealings will be used to service the loan repayments and ease the pressure off the board a little.

That being said, I still have no problem with Kenwright doing this.He could of got us in miles over our heads and really killed us as a club aka Pompy or Rangers but he is wise enough not to but still comes out with some tasty transfers for us. We are not viable to buy for a wannabe potential sugar daddy. We need a new ground for starters, the debt of the club would need paying off, the price to actually buy the club and finally masses of money to pump into the team and with all that anyone with half a brain can see that we are not a good commodity to snap up so be thankful that we do have a prudent board and chairman that is being sensible with our club and looking after it like they should while still keeping us competative.

Onwards and upwards Nil Satis Nisi Optimum!

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At 11 o'clock when the business was done .jim white was on the phone to someone from everton.when he got off he stated the mc carthy deal wasn't dependent on the Felliani deal.so all the calculations about fees bein paid to agents etc must have been done, with the impression that we could still afford mc carthy .we pulled in over 30 million not dependent on are dealings surely we must have at least half of that for jan .u have a set budget, so to say we didn't need to sell to make transfers means we must have money, because we did sell ., we must have more .

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Don't believe everything you read or hear mate. There's no way the club are going to admit they are waiting on Fellianis transfer to move forward, the Felliani deal hadn't even been announced then. The Mcarthey deal more than likely was all in place, everything thrashed out and done, all the boxes ticked but it's not finalised until the funds are paid. We offered them a structured deal over 4 years at first and that was probably because they were panicking the Felliani deal wouldn't go through in time and we would be left holding our dicks, Whealan confirmed that offer and basically said we were taking the P*** with it then we magically have 14 million lying around. It's not rocket science mate, it's glaringly obvious for all to see if you just take a step back and look. Like I said though, no arguments from me I'm not slating the board and I'm a happy blue at the minute

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Well that may be true, all I'm saying everton have made it clear that the mc carthy deal wasn't dependent on any out going deals .im like u an probably most everton fans were happy come 11oclock .so to phone jim white and say this deal wasn't done because Felliani was sold ., it leaves the board open for future criticism come jan if no money is available .they are more or less sayin they had a budget of 20 million plus wages and wanted the fans to know it, regardless of sales .the board done well but if no money is available come jan, fans will ask why .based on what everton say .im curious and hope that we've a tasty kitty left .we still need a striker and midfielder to replace are loan deals next year

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Theres no way Everton could have purchased McCarthy without the sale of Fellani. The fees agreed ten minutes before the window shuts and all of a sudden McCarthy is at the trainig ground.seriously. Its so obvious Everton needed agreement on Fellani before making their move

I also find it strange that all the hype of a marquee signing has now gone away and all this money that was so-called available has never materialised yet fans claim they are happy with the window. Why?

The talisman that is Fellani has gone. Barry, Lukaku and the lad from Barca belong to someone else, you just borrow them for a while. In reality, the signings are Kone, McCarthy (neither made the top three in player of the season awards at Wigan) Alcaraz (who is a quality player but can't stay fit) and Robles. 20 million spent and well in excess of 30 million brought in.

A list of quality players who were linked, signed for other clubs (including Cardiff, Norwich and Southampton) cause it meant digging deep.

Sorry, I just don't get it.

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You need to take the blue tinted specs off and be realistic about who we can attract and what we can afford mate. A lot of our fans think that Messi would sign for us if we had the money to afford him. we're not that big of an attraction to sign for . Players of real quality want champions league football and to be challenging for honours. we can provide neither so we fall into a bracket of players that fall just short of that calibre. It's no coincidence the gems we find/produce all move on to clubs in the champions league. Think about our stature of a club and where we are in the grand scheme of things these days. It's not 1960 anymore we are not one of the big punchers.

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Paddock blue was spot on with what he says, i'm a 100% certain we had next to nothing and despite whelan being an absolute arse about it he made he clear funds were not in place, i'm also made up with the window but it takes less than common sense to realise we were working near towards are financial limit.
If funds were avaliable and he really wanted macarthy you don't wait till 10 2 11 to confirm it makes no sense, then 2 mins later all the other transfers are confirmed simutanously, the first team looks solid to me but don't be expecting 20m in jan because we have 60m of debts

MikeDeBlue

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What's all the fuss about January money for?

Have you looked at out team? It's now packed with talent front to back and right through the bench!

Last season we had misfiring jelavic, big vic and vellios up front = no goals

This year we've got lukaku, on form jelavic, Kone and Vellios plus mirrallas is needed

The midfield is now stuffed with talent with at least 8 to choose from.

Defence looks fine too

We have the bodies - we don't need any more - now it's about getting the ball forwards faster and turning possession into chances into goals and turning draws into wins

It's fine tuning what we have that's important now - we have the right players!
Mike

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Mike? Is that you?

Toffee ace

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04 Sep 2013 18:15:31
not sure if it's been asked already,

do we have a 'to buy' clause with chelsea and Lukaku? hope so, and activate it in January

Jelavic will miss out too as there is no way lukaku would of come just to sit on the bench and wba wanting him + Kone just arriving and being one of RM old boys Jelavic won't get a game, shame really as I think he still has a lot of offer

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No right to buy clause sadly, anyway I believe he will be too expensive to buy after this season.

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Lukaku spent quite a lot of last season on the bench for West Brom by all accounts.

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04 Sep 2013 17:52:33
It's good to see positive posts, is it just me but I can't wait to watch our next game and gutted its international week I always look forward to our games but I am intrigued at our new style especially with our new players. I know someone mentioned the other day about Rodwell coming back I know he injury prone but just think he would suit RM style perfect. At first I thought we should get him before Barry but I think we could do with his experience in the squad since we lost Neville, maybe we can still get Jack back in the summer. Imagine the trio for years to come McCarthy, Rodwell and Barkley. {Ed025's Note - its just a pity lukaku cant play robbie..

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04 Sep 2013 17:25:35
Martinez seems to have read my posts. I suggested that it was wrong to buy Kone and push Victor Anichebe to be 3rd choice just when his value was increasing. ie after his good performances at the end of last season when he replaced Jelly as 1st choice. I had suggested we should have sold Victor whilst his value was on the up and put it with the 6 million spent on Kone to grab a more successful goalscorer. A few of you gave me a hard time. Although Martinez has not done exactly what I said, he has done something very similar in selling Vic and bringing in Lukaku on loan. Maybe if he has a good season with us it will become a permanent signing. I also said Moyes was lined up as Fergies replacement 2 seasons ago. Even my own son disagreed with me on that one. Next we should use the money left over to sign Luke Shaw and let Baines go at the end of this season.
Degsypulford

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I think everyone knew moyes was fergies choice years ago

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04 Sep 2013 17:14:20
A question. if LUKAKU scores 20 overall, between now and May.very possible. more than likely then off to the World Cup . gets 5 plus there. he must then be in the region of 35-40 million, considering he went to Chelsea for a max of 17 this includes add on. No doubt he will choose a team with CL qualification next year even if Chelsea off load. With CL qualification I reckon we may have a small chance of keeping him even if we were to break the bank. without CL we have none. the question is. are you happy with loan signings when we have very little chance of keeping them?. GB may be different of course, To me it will be like hiring a Ferrari for the weekend but knowing you have to give it back.

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04 Sep 2013 17:45:59
Its better to have loved and lost than to never have loved at all

Degsy

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The point is mute. Chelsea will not sell him. Especially if he is scoring at the rate you're suggesting

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04 Sep 2013 14:40:56
Apologies Eds if this has already been published but what are the squad numbers of the new players? {Ed025's Note - barry..18, and Mcarthy..16, lukaku is still in abeyance tone..

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Ffs, why do people come on here and ask questions like this when it is on the official site, like when we were in the US, post after post asking what time the games were being shown in the UK when it was plastered all over the official site

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04 Sep 2013 13:39:31
I'd just like to clear up the actual name of our new loan signing from Chelsea.

It is ROMELU LUKAKU,

Not
Lakaku or Lukaka or Lukuka or Lukuku or Lakuku or even Lakaka.

It's really not difficult, I allow some leeway for Gerard D because that's impossible to spell but Lukaku really isn't, and I for one would hate to join a new club and all the supporters not know how to spell or pronounce my name.

John Smith

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Here i'll help since you're having difficulty. Deulofeu - deyo-lo-feyo {Ed025's Note - del boy works for me.. :)

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So what professor, who cares . we all know who it meant to be.

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Are you the john smith from my school? he was annoying too

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04 Sep 2013 13:17:51
Just like to say ED's I am more than happy with the players we managed to get on transfer deadline day and also with the money we managed to rake in as Felli and Big Vic departed. I think we look stronger and am looking foward to the next game. However it seems to me that reading some of these posts that some blues aren't happy. I say get behind the team and be positive. Finally I would like to wish Big Vic all the Best at West Brom. COYB

NSNO Always.

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04 Sep 2013 12:48:41
Although we have a strong team the numbers are the same and the wage bill is higher I don't think we should be taking risks by giving Barkley the free role. He is a wonderful player but all I see now is all our players shooting on sight since the Norwhich game no one is getting in the 6yard box for crosses hence 30 shots 6 on target. For me its not good enough. Get the crosses in and the players in there to get on the end of em {Ed025's Note - i think lukaku might solve that mate..

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Alan Myers has said take Manchester United paid 26.5 up front with 1 in add ons nothing to do with Felliani loyalty bonus being waived so the deal could go thru .that is between everton and Felliani .we got 27.5 off utd

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Lukaku will get all the service he needs from Baines and Coleman.the goals are coming! (Wavertree Blue)

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04 Sep 2013 12:40:02
What I can't understand is that Reading are in talks to sign Mohammed Sissoko he was a free transfer 28yo and was willing to come to us. This could be a mistake not getting him. Even though we have a strong midfield we don't have the creative player who can put the final pass to jelavic feet.

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THIS IS FROM..ED02...for your information


As for transfer fees, what is paid by the buying club would typically include:
(a) Transfer fee - the big number.
(b) Any levy applied by the local FA ? 5% for the EPL.
(c) Tax due on the transfer fee ? typically this will be VAT (at varying rates across Europe) some or all of which should be reclaimable.
(d) Agent fees ? this may be to one or more agents (as an example, Liverpool have spent £25M plus VAT on agent fees over the past three years leading to this window).
(e) Tax due on the agent fees ? typically this is VAT at the local rate where the agent bills from ? it is not reclaimable.
(f) Intermediary fees ? this may be to one or more sponging leeches(what do you mean you have a super agent?) .
(g) Tax due on the Intermediary fees ? typically this is VAT at the local rate where the Intermediary bills from ? it is not reclaimable.
(h) Signing on fee to the player (possibly including non-reclaimable VAT if the player is VAT registered).
(i) Legal fees.
(j) VAT on legal fees which is reclaimable.
(k) Moving/relocation costs for the player.
(l) VAT on moving/relocation costs which is reclaimable.
(m) Paying up insurance costs to the selling club (sometimes waived).

What is paid by the buying club would typically include:
(a) If the player is under 24, a Solidarity contribution paid to his previous clubs responsible for his training - this is 5% of the transfer fee received.
(b) Any monies owed to the player if he did not request a transfer ? again this is 5% of the transfer fee received.
(c) Any monies owed to the player in terms of his contract (typically outstanding wages and bonuses).


{Ed025's Note - sorry to use your name degs, its just a way for me to post

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Martinez isn't interested in him would be my guess as to why we aren't in for him. Don't let your judgement be clouded, just because a player is on a free doesn't mean he is going to add anything different to the squad. Why pay him wages if he is going to get splinters in his arse all season

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04 Sep 2013 13:18:10
No probs Ed, makes me look dead intelligent this post

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You missed taxi and Starbucks from the airport.

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You should have used Tristans name Ed. It would have been nice to here from him

Toffee ace. {Ed025's Note - yeah, i wonder what happened to him?..

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04 Sep 2013 12:37:39
hi ed. what happened to 4 new signings that you predicted. will the money we made during the window be made available or will it disappear. I thought there was money available without the need to sell. What happened to the money that was supposedly available for Leroy Fer, where has the SKY money gone and where will the Fellaini money go, There seems to be a bit of a black hole if you ask me {Ed025's Note - we have not received the sky money yet...3 aint too shabby..

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04 Sep 2013 12:25:13
ed reckons we had the best deals and the everton fans are happy with it.im a big everton fan and I might have been happy with lakuku but really are we happy with what we got.KONE(COULDNT HIT A COWS ARSE WITH SHOVEL), ALCARAZ (INJURY PRONE, NOT A DECENT DEFENDER), BARRY A HAS BEEN, MCCARTHY A TOP MIDFIELDER THAT NO OTHER PREMIER LEAGUE CLUB WANTED, let's ALL BE HAPPY.WHAT DO YOU LOT THINK?IS ED RIGHT?OR AM I JUST THE ONLY ONE THAT THINKS THIS

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You're very, very niave if you really think that. Barry is a seasoned pro and will have a solid role in our midfield, he's only 32 hardly a has been. Distan must be a pensioner then going by your standards. Kone hasn't even been given a run or real chance yet and people like you are jumping all over his back shouting he is rubbish. Mcarthey COULD turn out to be one of the best midfielders the league has ever seen. We can't afford to buy Pirlo or Toure so we have to go for a young player and try and nurture him into a future star. How can you be disallusioned with us signing a bright 22 year old who could be the future of the club. Alcaraz is a good defender he has had a lot of bad luck with injuries last season or so but that doesn't mean he is no good. He's a very talented solid centre half and he was free!

People like you are never ever happy. We could of blown 50 million and you would find fault in what we had. Stop being so negative and give them a chance. None of them bar Kone (and he only a bit) have kicked a ball in anger for us yet and you have them wrote off already. You sound like a kopite. Give the players a chance and if you are proved right I will be the first to hold my hands up and say it but I think you'll be surprised

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Stop moaning! Fans like you get on my nerves. In the scheme of things I think we have made some good permanent/loan signings. Start excepting that until the day we are bought by a rich arab/russian or we build a 60,000 seater ground we aren't going to have masses of money to spend!

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04 Sep 2013 13:02:57
Dazza you are talking, no sorry SHOUTING OUTA YOUR ASS MATE

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04 Sep 2013 16:01:39
kone was free basically because we sold vic and let's face it kone is much better, barry is a good player and i'm assuming pirlo, xavi and lampard are all god awful has beens too, alcaraz had one bad injury same as mirallas don't mean they are injury prone

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04 Sep 2013 16:02:59
also no o e wanted mccarthy? so newcastle, tottenham and liverpool all wanted him and he is the new roy keane you're no everton fan

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The barry deal was a shock to me and at first I questioned it, However as I don't regularly watch city I popped over to some of there fan page's who are watching them week in week out, Go check it out son Barry will be miss massively by them they rate him very highly as do villa fans, let's all give him a chance IBWT COYB

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You'll be eating those words soon enough. Kone always looks awful early season, he was the same last year and previously at Levante, but when he hits form, he's a handful for anyone.
Alcaraz hasn't had a sniff but is an experienced international defender who provides quality cover.
McCarthy will be an extremely important player for Everton for years to come, wonderfully underrated player. Wait until he comes out of his shell and grows as a man and he will dominate and dictate games. I'm confident he will be one of, if not, the best 'British' midfielders in the game.
You need to get some perspective, who do you think we were going to attract, Gundogan, Xavi, Pirlo?

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In fellaini we have lost a defensive midfielder who can pass and score goals. We have replaced him with a very good defenses midfielder, a very good passer of the ball with lots of potential and a forward who could well score 20+ goals for us. Now, I didn't want bobby but add to this a few million in the bank too and this was a great bit of business. Can't wait now for our first match when they can all play.

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04 Sep 2013 12:20:37
Hi Ed025,
I know you don't have any control over the ads that appear on our page & normally they don't bother me. For the last few days though, there is one that appears on the right of the screen saying that "your computers performance is poor, click here to solve problem". This ad flashes repeatedly & doesn't move when you scroll down the posts. Not only is it really distracting & stops me reading the longer posts, I am slightly prone to migraines brought on by flashing lights & this ad has caused a couple. I don't know if this has affected anyone else but it's spoiling my enjoyment of the pages. Yeah, I'm a moaning old get, I know, but this ad isn't even truthful, just really fecking annoying! Rant over. {Ed025's Note - i will contact the IT guy tezza..

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But ed. please don't delete Holly! {Ed025's Note - i wont mate.. :)

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04 Sep 2013 13:06:25
I will second that Ed, it gets right on my tits mate flashing all the time, also agree with the other poster DO NOT delete the other ones, I keep clicking them, by accident of course, Tulissa is proper fine, Holly is a godess, Miley is defo no longer the sweet girl next door, Selena Gomez and H Flan, need I say more Blues.

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Tezza, install an ad blocker and be done with ads, they're free for all browsers. Also block popups in your browser settings (if you haven't already done so).
What you're describing sounds like scare-ware and if you were to click on it you'd be downloading all sorts of nasty stuff. {Ed001's Note - the ads to the right of the page you mean? If so I will get rid of them altogether, I didn't know they would show stuff like that, we don't want them on the sites!}

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Mr Dozy here had not noticed it till reading this. Cheers lads! But you are right it does get on your piggin nerves. {Ed001's Note - they will be gone later today, just had to inform them that they are being removed and why first.}

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I think so ed001. Tezza describes it in the OP. may have something to do with the code injected into the page which, in sure you're aware, can be filtered out. I'm not getting it myself on mobile or laptop but I use an ad blocker. Another thing you might try Tezza is clearing your browser's cache/cookies.
It's happening to other sites as well recently when they've taken on different ad agencies. {Ed001's Note - it is a new ad we tried, they didn't tell us they would show these kind of things or they would never have been put up!}

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Thanks to the poster with the info about blocking the ads - I'll do that now. Must agree with the other guys about the glam ads though. Hey Degsy, you're dead right, but I'm beginning to realise I've turned into a dirty old man looking at the really young ones! I'll keep hoping they find some pics of Melanie Sykes & Sharon Stone for us fogies!

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It'll be a fault on the foo foo valve that boys. Get it sorted ;)

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04 Sep 2013 10:46:22
Ed, how much of the fell money do you think we'll have to spend in jan and do you think bainesy can be tempted away? Never thought he'd go myself as seems decent lad and loyal plus no one came out saying we had to sell. Am tad worried that we will have to sell to service debt next summer though and fear ross could be on the menu for the big boys. {Ed025's Note - we need to repay his loyalty colonel, and give him a 4yr with a big rise, this will hopefully keep the vultures away, i dont understand the financial side mate, but i do know that all fees are subject to a wide range of payments to different bodies, such as agents, so will not be as much as the layman will expect..

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04 Sep 2013 10:25:00
Assuming Gibson's not fit and seeing as Lukaku probably can't play against Chelsea:

Howard
Coleman Jagielka Distin Baines
McCarthy Barry
Mirallas Barkley Pienaar
Jelavic

I'd personally like to see Deulofeu ahead of Pienaar, but I do think that will probably be the team

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Maybe Osman starting? Might not be perfect to give 2 debuts in centre mid given their strength there

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Can ya remember fellainis debut I thought oh my god what the fffff because he was crap

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I agree with BlueClarkey. Definitely start Ossie.

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Feli was indeed pants for his first season and a half

just lumbered about the place well off the pace

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04 Sep 2013 16:05:36
sorry play osman?, with hazard, mata, oscar or de bruyne all interchanging we need someone with pace and bite to keep them at bay and mccarthy will do that and gibbo will if fit but if not then play barry he isn't quick but reads the game well and is not afraid to tackle, osman has mo pace power and cannot tackle, definitely start mccarthy

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Osman?Have you lost the plot?.He is garbage always has been, far too lightweight and is now off the pace too.Sorry he's just not good enough.

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04 Sep 2013 10:16:54
Been off the radar for a while. Not too bad a window in my opinion. We kept Baines and if everyone is honest that was our main priority so that was one job done.

The wig wanted to go and you can't hold it against the lad really, but all those saying he was crap etc need to get a life. He's a good player and we will miss him but we'll also be fine without him.

Now for the signings. Barry is a good seasoned pro, he's been around the block more times than most played in high pressure games and played in BIG games. he is no mug so to all those saying he's garbage blah blah again get a life. You don't get to where he has and have a trophy cabinet with title winning medals and a bag load of England caps if you are crap. Crafty signing imo, if he is good we get him on a free next season, he'll be happy here so will take the cut he's going to have to to sign pemanantly if he's garbage (and I very much doubt that) he can go on his merry way. City subsidising some of his wages as well. I can't see where anyone could see a none win win situation in this. If anyone can put a dampener on that deal feel free to tell me. Good CM cover as well.

Mcarthey is the only think that done my head in a bit to be honest, he's way too much money in my view. 14 million for a championship player is just too much I think. I now he's bright and young and extremely talented but I still think it's at least 6 million too much but Martinez want him so that's good enough for me.

Lukaku. I'm absolutely over the moon with this one. I've been bleating about this kid for a couple of years now he is fantastic, big, pacey, awkward, explosively fast cn use is head,, put himself about, lead the line and score goals. he has absolutely everything. This kid will be better than Drogba in 4 or 5 years he is the real deal. I only wish we could get him on a permanant deal but there is no way Chelsea will ever sell him as they know exactly what they have in him. Fantastic player and I'm glad he'll at least don the royal blue jersey albeit for one season. I just hope Martinez doesn't see him as an impact player for last 20 if we need a goal which I fear he will and he'll spend half his time on the bench. Watch him in that final game against Utd last season he ripped the unt defense a new a***hole. Hope he falls in love with us and demands to stay (pipe dream)

Now for the money spent to taken. Seen the usual doom merchants screaming we spent 14 mil and brought in 32.5. For starters Anichebe was only 4 up front the rest is in add ons etc (so I was told) and the Felliani money was 27.5 up front

So that is 31.5 million. 14 million is just the fee for Mcarthey and it's not just a case of us paying 14 mil and in he comes. there's agent fees, legal fees etc to go on to that. The loan deals will of cost money, you don't just borrow a player and give him back, you have to pay the parent club a fee to borrow him and I would stab a guess that both loans cost us about 4 million combined to bring them in, then the players wages for the loan duration need taking into account and all sorts of other costs. SO the 14 million spent probably is closer to 20-22 million to have everything signed sealed delivered nd paid for which means there was pehaps a 10 million overspill. News flash peeps we're broke. If that goes towards a debt and a way towards securing a future for the club then I am happy we have done what wehave.

You have to pay your bills people no matter what walk of life you are from otherwise the wolves come knocking and Everton are no different. let's get behind the team and see where we are going eh instead of bleating that the board are ripping us off.

COYFBB {Ed025's Note - cracking read that paddo mate..

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04 Sep 2013 10:45:38
enjoyed that mate

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Well if we've only got 10m left were going to struggle to replace barry, barca kid, jonny and lukaku and improve squad next summer then THE ORIGINAL PADDOCKBLUE {Ed025's Note - we do have tv money to come mate..

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Good read that Paddock, makes a lot of sense.

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Barry can sign on a free Delefau will only be a bit part player and Lukaku I agree we will struggle to replace such a good player. Stop being so negative and looking too much into things. Next season is eons away and we'll be sound just like we always are. Just enjoy the season and get behind the team instead of being negative and casting a downer over the club.

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On the bright side, Barry could join on a free next year, barca kid it has been spoken of that he may be available for a second year of a load, if johnny goes we will have stones and Duffy coming through to replace him and Distin, that just leaves us in need of a striker!

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04 Sep 2013 09:39:44
If any of the doubters are still thinking Barry is a mistake then please read the last 5 comments from tv from his previous fans, they will know better than us



maccers saysSeptember 4, 2013 8:10am

I'm not convinced our midfield is anywhere good enough yet this season and letting him go so soon could be a big mistake. Whilst he struggled with CL he was outstanding in the Premier for us. Good luck and thanks for the trophies Gareth!


Reply 0 0 maddad saysSeptember 4, 2013 7:53am

Villa still have, nt replaced him

Reply 0 0 mcfcwayne saysSeptember 4, 2013 7:03am

Citys lose is evertons gain, Gaz baz as been one of our best players since the money came in. Week in week out he plays well. Good luck Gaz thanks for being at city and playing so well.

Reply 0 0 bluedownunder saysSeptember 4, 2013 7:01am

As previously stated, I do not know why he was allowed to leave City, particularly on loan and then effectively on a free at the end of the season. His knowledge of the English game is something that City will lack this season - all the signings are from overseas and will need time to adapt to the EPL. Great deal for Everton though - at least he will not play against City! Good luck Gareth - thanks for the hard work you put in game after game.

Reply 0 0 chris saysSeptember 4, 2013 2:30am

well why not - everton is a good opportunity for any player. great team spirit with great supporters as long as you give 100% the back you but the fans do not tolerate fools lightly.



Sorry about the long message guys but I for one look forward to seeing him in action

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Everyone has there opinion it doesn't make it wrong. I bet even Barce have a skeptic that doesn't rate Messi as he doesn't defend well enough. i'm with you on this though I think Barry will be a good signing.

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04 Sep 2013 10:31:18
I agree mate everyone to their own, was just showing what his own fans think about the guy, just not the Everton way to slate a new player before he has even been given the opportunity to put a shift in.

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04 Sep 2013 09:22:32
It gets better for moyes & felliani. The wig has to lose a 4 mill loyalty bonus because he put a transfer request in. The mancs are saying moyes did not have enough time to sign players (coughs). and now RVP is not happy with moyes training methods. The grass is never greener when you leave our GREAT club. Fans who LOVED you but most now have no respect for you due to your disrepectful behaviour.

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I would have thought RVP would love having to run into the channels and defend, for gods sake he is a forward! DM is a legend at breaking strikers we all knew that and now so do MU LOL :) it just gets better.

SA90

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04 Sep 2013 12:29:04
Hey, Dazza, hurry up, the school bell is ringing get back to your class, play time is over.

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04 Sep 2013 09:05:23
i think all transfer day on sky is a fix, so people watch and sky keep the money flowing to the clubs.fellani to Manchester United with minutes to go and mccarthy to everton, then mccarthy turns up at everton 10 minutes later, if you ask me this deal was done weeks ago.same as the mesut ozil deal.disappointed we didn't get the BIG top player that was promised weeks ago.the only decent signing was lakuku.its a sorry day for everton as I think we have fallen behind half of the other premier league teams. {Ed025's Note - conspiracy theories is a different page dazza, and hardly a sorry day mate, most pundits and journalists reckon we had the best deals of the window...maybe you know better?..

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Er yeah 3 internationals on deadline day not something EFC are renown for.

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04 Sep 2013 08:04:39
Just want to say to our ED (25) what we have all been saying for years mate, Top man and hope you finally enjoyed a night off last night, much appreciated.

All the other Ed's are spot on too and do a great job, especially No 2, great replies and always give me a laugh, very bossy lol

Keep up the good work {Ed025's Note - cheers degs..

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Is this a bromance blossoming ;) {Ed025's Note - it blossomed a long time ago mate.. ;)

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04 Sep 2013 12:18:10
ha ha

Im a sensitive soul at heart mate, unfortunately no bromance though as the wife to be on 14th Sept may have something to say about it. {Ed025's Note - two timer!!...lol

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04 Sep 2013 06:39:24
I think we have a really good team now - front to back, with a pretty decent bench now of players who would/could have been in the team before

Solid defence as before

Midfielder stuffed with talent
McCarthy Barry Barkley deulefeo Gibson pienaar Naismith mirrallas osman

Forwards - 3 or 4 to choose from lukaku jelavic Kone vellios

Maybe left wing is a little bit weak now pienaar off the ball but otherwise we look good

Only problem is we seem to not have a plan in the final 3rd - we seem to take so long getting it forward that they've got everyone behind the ball by the time we get there - think we need to work on that somehow

Otherwise we look good it think

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04 Sep 2013 03:16:27
Reports were suggesting before fellaini and Vic was sold Everton already had transfer funds of approx £17 million ( is this true )

Everton made £20.5 million

Fellaini deal approx £1.0 million went to Standard Liege

Lukula wages is approx £3.0 million
Barry wages is approx £6.0 million
McCarthy wages is approx £3.0 million

Total outlay £13.0 million
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Everton made £20.5 million
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Grand total 6.5 million left + £17.0 million = £23.5 million.

Would you agreed on that summary

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Don't see your point mate.Parameter seem not completed.
- Felli and Vic wage free.
- New coming loyalty and agent fee.
- Where 17m. come from?
- Staff left wage free and their new club compensation payment.
- New staff wage and their old club compensation.

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04 Sep 2013 07:59:56
Sitea makes a good point, we must have paid out huge sums in staff replacements and compo, would have helped if OBXMAS would not have left on a free, suppose not his fault as he had no idea that SAF was leaving and the job was coming his way, sorry for moaning but ye can't help ye self sometimes, onward and upwards

IBWT

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04 Sep 2013 00:09:49
Well folks, after all the activity last night, would just like to say "Well done" to Roberto! Some good business all in all. time will tell on just how good James McCarthy might be, bearing in mind that our previous manager did try seriously to sign him, but McCarthy chose to go to Wigan to work with Martinez? I have never been a great admirer of Gareth Barry, but I do believe it could turn out to be a masterstroke as the lad does drive forward with power and can pick a pass to split defences, and he will help young Barkley along also. As for Lukaku, well if he continues his goalscoring feats from last season at West Brom and his previous scoring record in Belgium then we could have a cracker on our hands. he's a big, strong lad in the Everton centre forward mould, and will upset a lot of defences with his power and pace. I really don't think we will miss Fellaini as much as we think. he will be missed over the first few games, but after that I believe we will be fine. Fellaini has a terrible disaplinary record and let Everton down on a number of occasions over the last few seasons, and his distribution wasn't the best either. often caught in possession in midfield and would then foul trying to retrieve the ball. has been a good player for us, but certainly not irreplaceable. So Fellaini now states He has signed for the "Best Club In The World". and "it has always been my dream to play for Manchester United since I was a boy"!! Strange that really, because for the last 2 years or so all we've been hearing from his Father and Fellaini himself, is about "His Dream Move to Chelsea". supported Chelsea since he was a boy! So very fickle, Everton Football Club made him what he is today, by taking a chance on him 5 years ago. Don't think the Manc fans are exactly delighted that they've signed him as he was actually about 4th choice if you believe the papers etc. Onwards and Upwards Blues.
Street End Boy {Ed025's Note - good post mate..

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04 Sep 2013 00:09:05
Baines to United in Jan has started already, do the media ever give us a break? {Ed025's Note - no mike..

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04 Sep 2013 06:30:50
They will once he signs his new contract next week, COME ON BAINESEE GET THE FRIGGIN PEN OUTA YE ARSE AND SIGN

Degs

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No excuse if we don't get him on a new contract now .get him on felliani contract now, he deserves to be are biggest earner

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03 Sep 2013 23:52:06
What Happened with the moves for Bruno martins Indi and Divide Astori ED? {Ed025's Note - pie in the sky fella..

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03 Sep 2013 20:18:25
Ed you said we have not got the sky money yet, how much is it and when do we get it. Also dose it mean teams like Norwich and Swansea have spent it all ready {Ed025's Note - they have vinny..we are all getting the sky dosh mate, but we have been more prudent than most..

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That would seem to be the case, I don't even want to think about the interest they are paying on what they have spent!

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03 Sep 2013 20:03:09
Ed

Enjoy your week off mate, you deserve it.

I agree with your comments earlier regarding that there are more questions than answers after this transfer window.

Zulu toffee

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03 Sep 2013 19:53:36
ED we may not see eye to eye on most things except 1. We want EFC to win trophies and improve. But I have to admit you do a sterling job on here, yes it's a business, but you let fans have their say. right or wrong. Quality stuff Sir. Far far better than most sites. {Ed025's Note - cheers biffy..

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03 Sep 2013 23:01:00
Just wondering where ed025 is 2nite. Not complaining bout other eds but the painkillers must be kicking in for ed025 2nite after last night lol.all eds did a great job last night.carry on the great work {Ed003's Note - We sent him out for pizzas at around 4 AM during the end of deadline day party and he hasn't been seen since, strangely enough it was around the same time the male stripper left with a donkey and a bowl of fruit and some Nutella and they havent been seen since either, I'm getting worried now.Cheers dentie.}

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Bloody nutella.its the devil between eds, strippers and donkeys lol

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03 Sep 2013 22:39:16
So when everyone is fit, what do we think robbies starting eleven will be? Back 5 picks itself and I reckon barry, mac bossing mid with kev, ross and peanuts causing havoc behind the fridge.good cover all round too although think the 6mill on kone could have been wiser spent.thoughts?

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