Everton Banter Archive June 04 2014

04 Jun 2014 23:31:45
Hi ed025,

Wondered whether you could set up a poll, did Barkley leave that through ball short just so Jack wouldn't score? ;-)

{Ed025's Note - ross is not that type of guy jen, hes still a bit green yet, and not bright enough to really know much of what he is doing..but a great talent in the making.. :)

No reason for him to not play jack'ill fall over, 'wilshire in.ross probably wanted to keep play going ibstead of fall over going for a free kick

05 Jun 2014 06:44:50
I know that ed, it was said in jest, hence the ;-), as I honestly couldn't believe you'd had a poll asking if Jack had deliberately not passed to Ross.

Stef and Dentie, blowing someone's candle out to make yours shine brighter is not the best trait. Barkley is a quality young player and I'm hoping that when Jack gets a decent run again we'll see the quality he is.

I don't see the two of them being a Gerrard/Lampard situation.

Oh and the Ox is ten times better than Ross ;-)

{Ed025's Note - im a very big fan of the ox jenny, lets hope him and ross are two of the players the new england team will be built around, the jury is still out on JW for me though..

05 Jun 2014 07:46:42
I'm hoping those two are too, they are just really exciting players and will be sad if the Ox is out of it.

I agree with you on JW, unfortunately it has to be out until he sorts himself out, he's shown us what he could be but needs to work his socks off to get back to that player.

Whether he or his injuries stop that we'll have to wait and find out. I guess I'm hoping for the same outcome as Ramsey. :-)

Im a fan of ox too.by far the best player against Ecuador. Just hope he came off as a precaution and isn't injured. i'm not a big wilshire fan, goes down over the slightest bump, runs into players and too injury prone. I think Ramsey has taken over wilshire as a main midfielder for the gunners

05 Jun 2014 09:34:17
Have to agree with you there Jenny, that poll was a bit embarrassing to be fair. That said, I've got to say that I'm of the opinion that Jack is not as good as the press would like us to believe. I've not watched him too much but, when I have, I haven't been able to see what the fuss is about. He can show moments of brilliance but I feel this is outweighed by far too much time on the treatment table. Last night, there were at least 3 occasions were he lost the ball and stayed on the ground rather than jump up to recover the ball. That's not good enough at international level. The Ox, on the other hand, is going to be a tremendous player. Just hope the injury isn't as bad as feared, we need him on the pitch for the WC. Barkley is going to be one of the greats of his generation, he will make mistakes but as long as he learns from them then all is good. Got a feeling that he is going to show a few teams his ability in this competition

04 Jun 2014 22:35:13
If we give you Jack Wilshere can we have Ross please?

{Ed025's Note - sorry dags..our treatment table is already full mate..

Dags. I've honestly never seen a professional footballer fall over as much as wilshire. i'm pretty sure at one point tonight he took on 3 blades of grass and got brought down off a daisy.you can keep him lol

04 Jun 2014 23:41:43
Lol oh well, no harm in trying.

04 Jun 2014 21:35:01
Why is Rooney in the England team, 300k a week player my ass

Because although his England performances have not been great, there are no better players than him.although the youngsters are starting to push him now.

Degsy I'd av Ross, sterling, or the ox in before him in the hole, they can all offer quick feet and power, like Rooney had in the euros in 04, the reason Rooney starts is because no England manager would dare to bench him,,

Unless he bucks his ideas up soon, I reckon he will be dropped. You can't deny his goalscoring record. even though most were tap ins. He still performs for Utd but you are right to say "when was his last good England game?"

04 Jun 2014 19:47:31
Apparently, from the local news this evening the signing of Gareth Barry on a three year contract is a done deal. He will remain at Everton. Have to admit I am pleased. If, as feared by some, he fades due to age or injury within those three years I am quite sure he can be sold as Barry won't want to spend the final years of his career on the bench or not playing. Hopefully he will be followed by more high profile targets.

04 Jun 2014 13:53:10
I say get the Barry deal done if it cost that much money over 3 years well then so be it he has proven his worth and we need him in there with Mcarthy they were rocks for us in midfield remember its over 3 years not one year. Plus Greg okeefe tweeted he still has other offers to consider but 60 grand a week is well in our wage structure he will be worth it you all seen what he offers on the pitch.

Agreed Stef. Money in the bank is no substitute for a footballer!

04 Jun 2014 12:30:40
Serious question here. Have we actually been linked anywhere at all to Bony or has someone just said they fancied him on here and its snowballed

The bookies have us as favourites for him so it probably has legs.

04 Jun 2014 12:11:45
Just a question to everyone out there

Would you rather we paid the £20+ million for Lukaku or spend a combined £16 millionish for Victor Ibarbo and Michy Batshuayi Tunga?

Personally I'd go for the second option Bit of a gamble as both are not proven in the premier league. However I do believe we would be getting two for the price of less than one.

04 Jun 2014 14:39:32
ive been watching him since someone mentioned him on here, very fast and strong, has a good leap and shot, very good touches of the ball when running but his goalscoring record is beyond awful, be has had injury trouble in the past, very one footed, poor finisher and for the rumoured 9m, no tar

04 Jun 2014 10:46:28
Just saw hangaland from Fulham is available on a free, would defo take him as a squad player

04 Jun 2014 14:35:59
a couple of years ago yes, now, no

04 Jun 2014 20:46:47
have to agree with swan, a few years ago I would have loved hangeland but now i'm afraid he has passed it

Don't write him off just yet. He was a class act for years keeping Fulham up. He had a very poor last season, with a back injury. He only played about 20 games and Fulham struggled. I would put him through a vigorous fitness test. but only if RM thinks we need cover there. He is only 32 and Distin has proved center backs can play on into mid thirties if fit these days. Strange that Fulham have released him though. Something fishy there.

03 Jun 2014 23:27:41
Not specifically Everton related more a footballing thought.
A few of the political parties are lobbying for the UK to get out of Europe.
If that should ever happen where would British clubs stand with European competitions?
Would we be allowed to compete in them or not?

{Ed003's Note - *facepalm*

04 Jun 2014 01:01:50
bloody big facepalm

There's lots of countries playing in European football that are not in the EU at all - such as turkey and Russia - some are part of the free trade association area but not full EU members like Norway - but all these countries play in European football because playing in UEFA competitions is not connected to EU membership - just physical location - plus israel also plays though its not actually in Europe because its got no mates in its own neighbourhood - (having 'invaded' and taken over what was Palestine in around 1949)

UKIP would probably want us to be like Norway and trade with Europe but not be ruled by EU as we mostly are now- and not pay in about 10 billion a year to be part of it

europe won't boot us out of that because they sell more to us than we sell to them

Our gravy train politicians might not be able to play in the Brussels EU parliament social club football event though - which would be a big shame - for them

The bigger issue would surely be the work permit regulations for the non-British players if the UK left the EU. Would EU players (including those South Americans, etc., with EU passports giving them 'dual nationality') no longer have unrestricted freedom of movement to English clubs and be required to 'qualify' for work permits? Then there's the possibility of Scotland voting for independence - with the added complication of them staying in the EU while the rest of the UK voted to leave the EU. There'd be special arrangements agreed no doubt about footballers already at English clubs, but imagine if not only continental (EU) footballers, but also Scottish footballers were subject to work permit conditions just like non-EU (e.g. African) players are. It's a funny old game :-)