Everton Banter Archive June 03 2013

 

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03 Jun 2013 23:00:51
Everton not happy with Whelan speaking too soon, Everton saying there are further negotiations to be conducted, and nothing is final yet. KK.

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03 Jun 2013 22:59:15
No Martinez deal yet hope for pereira still

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03 Jun 2013 22:59:07
We all love our club and want the best me included but some of you guys are do blinkered. Remember we
Have won nowt for years we have no european football and a very small budget. Why would a top european coach want to manage us. All the top guys want minimum europa league and 20-30 mill to spend. RM must be given a chance and is prob the best we could hope for at the moment
We have a good but ageing squad that needs improving to get to the Next level do get behind the manager the team and the club and stop whining. we are supposed to be evertonians so let's behave like them
Blue60

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03 Jun 2013 22:58:43
The club is denying any deal has been done as yet, according to tv. com
I hope they don't appoint RM, I'd rather the German took over with Weir as his number two but we should get behind whoever gets the job

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03 Jun 2013 22:56:13
ed have you looked at everton website they say somewhat premature reports about the managers job they say it is ongoing someone cocked up then looks like they jumped the gun mr whelen been some poor reporting on this by the press take ragniack for example {Ed025's Note - i have mate..

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03 Jun 2013 22:54:49
I'm massively disappointed in the appointment, I feel it shows a huge lack of ambition on BK's part. I seriously hope the rumours of some of the players he might bring in (in particular Alcaraz) are wide of the mark. How can bringing in a load of freshly relegated players help us push on to the CL?
I don't understand how barely keeping a team in the PL for 3 seasons then getting relegated can be viewed as successful, when he never managed to correct the teams failings at the back. I know they won the FA cup this year, hammering us in the process, but Bradford city got to a cup final this year, it doesn't mean we should get their manager.
If we get top half next season i'll be surprised. I know people will say that we have better players, but it's the manager who determines tactics and I think he'll have us playing some bizarre formation at the back. Thus ruining are best attacking force Baines.
I'm sure people will disagree and I really hope i'll be back on hear in 9 months admitting I was wrong, but I don't think I will.

Lee

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03 Jun 2013 23:54:59
Nor me Lee

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03 Jun 2013 22:48:01
Ed what's going on! {Ed025's Note - search me mate..

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03 Jun 2013 22:45:31
What's going on? (Wavertree Blue)

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03 Jun 2013 22:45:19
Wrote this morning and said what I said and believe in it 100% that Martinez will be a disaster but good luck to the lad, you can only apply and hope you are successful so no moans at lad he is decent bloke.
BUT (you just knew this was coming ed!)
BK Honeymoon period over for you and the shower of baffoons who run this club, you have spent two weeks running over candidates for this?
Note to the football world. join a club do worst than a bloke you replaced, get them relegated and win a contract for Everton!
And people wonder why we can't break into the top four, staggering but tomorrow Martinez is my top man and good luck to him (and us)

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03 Jun 2013 22:44:15
Wats happenin ed's has dave whelan opened his mouth on somethin that's not happened yet? {Ed025's Note - could be dave..

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03 Jun 2013 22:43:21
bloody hell! another twist now. I was happy to be patient but this is becoming a saga now.

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03 Jun 2013 22:42:53
While RM is not my 1st choice I will welcome him in to our great club if he is confirmed as our manager however DW may have been a bit premature with his statement according to the everton website I will continue to wait for confirmation I_WT coyb

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03 Jun 2013 22:42:36
Wigan fans seem to be rejoicing that Martinez has gone, the only reason they never turned on him was he was a former player who showed loyalty. Source numerous posts on dailyM online.

I genuinely don't think he is the right man for the job, but I genuinely hope I am Wrong.

Anyway time to get behind hind our new manager! COYB

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03 Jun 2013 22:42:25
Wow, DW really does bullsh*t:
Everton have this evening issued a statement, refuting Dave Whelan�s claim that his Club, Wigan Athletic had agreed compensation terms with Everton.
Earlier, tv and tv News reported that Wigan Chairman Dave Whelan had claimed his Club had agreed a deal with Everton.
But Everton have issued a statement advising reports to be premature;
EVERTON: In response to regrettable and somewhat premature reports earlier this evening, Everton Football Club are continuing discussions with regards to the vacant managerial position.
Whilst positive moves are being made, the Club will officially announce details as and only when they are agreed and completed.

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03 Jun 2013 22:37:11
This has just popped up on official website looks like the wait goes on

http://m. evertonfc.com/news/archive/2013/06/03/everton-statement

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03 Jun 2013 22:33:08
Evening Eds and fellow Blues, just my personal opinion on the pending Martinez appointment. I think he will be a great manager for our truly great club, he wants to come to us, he plays great football, all his fellow pros and peers speak extremely highly of him, and I'm sure they know a thing or two. Yes, Wigan were relegated but they don't have the class of player that we have, they had injuries to key players and they won the fa cup with a tactical victory over a supposedly far superior team and deserved it. As regards to perreira, the Portuguese league is dominated by Porto and benfica and both have huge financial resources, he could have been another juande Ramos who was hugely rated at Sevilla then proper f***ed it up at spurs. Yes, it's a safe choice but at least he knows what our league is about and will have us playing some great football which in turn with our best 14 I believe will bring results, he is not afraid to go for the win, which let's face it as great as the legend that is DM was sometimes he was so negative with his tactics it really grated. So let's all get behind him 110% and you never know, he may actually sign a few players before the final 3 days of the transfer window! Lol.

COYB ETID

Skeeta

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03 Jun 2013 22:29:10
Come on everton fans this is exciting times for us blues everyone raves on rodgers an laudrup they've just carried on what martinez started were not chelsea were everton let's get behind him he's OUR manager now jay bluenose

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No he isn't our manager

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03 Jun 2013 22:24:29
What I like about Martinez his the way he handles the media there is no circus surrounding everything he is honest and he says things how they are

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03 Jun 2013 22:20:00
Terrific made up prove all the miserys wrong Roberto Can't wait to watch us attack next year give pip the number 2 job be even happier welcome Mr Martinez let's all get behind him, the duck.

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03 Jun 2013 22:53:05
yer can't wait lad- you had better be behind the back four because you'll be needed!

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03 Jun 2013 22:17:26
Roberto wasn't my first choice but you know what, get behind him and he will play attacking football, bring youth through. Moyes wasn't the be all and end all and kenwright will never please everyone so get off his back as well.
I will back Roberto all the way because that what we do we are EVERTON, your born a blue fact. Stop moaning or pee off
Jc

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03 Jun 2013 22:15:40
time to go kenwright my friend awful appointment you have made better managers about than Martinez give it time and you will believe me.

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03 Jun 2013 22:05:18
Should get behind the new manager rather then say we don't want him soona have marty then brenda any day of the week give Bill some credit he ain't rushed into it hetook his time and hopefully he has got it right

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03 Jun 2013 22:04:46
Sorry to say fellow evertonians but BK has made a bad choice in Martinez this guy has just relegated wigan we will be lucky to finish above 12th with this geezer in charge realy worried for our club what is going on BK looks like the cheap option to me sorry like I said just my views and concerns. mikeEFCforlife.

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03 Jun 2013 21:59:44
In Rob We Trust. COYB. Get behind our man

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03 Jun 2013 21:55:11
the first thing Martinez should do at Everton is resign {Ed025's Note - sigh..

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03 Jun 2013 21:53:24
Okay, so it looks as if Martinez is going to be our manager and I believe he'll do well if he doesn't rush everything. The key to success is that he can't come into the squad, bring in 5-6 players he wants and dictate his style on the team, as it will just end catastrophically. Thankfully, on the occasions that Moyes went out attacking, the squad we have proved that it can play wonderful football, something Martinez loves and I think we will flourish if everything works.

But people need to understand that we are now in a process of where we have a new manager who may want to put his own mark on the team, and this will take a bit of time. Therefore, do not be surprised if we drop to 9th/10th next season as Martinez may not hit instant success, as it may take a bit of time. On the flip side, I maybe be wrong and he could come in and bring instant success; but all I'm saying is don't be so negative if next season we drop a couple of places as we need time to settle with Martinez.

I hope he brings 2-3 key players (not much more though, as it will disrupt the team) ship out the deadwood, keep our star players, add a couple of squad players and instigate a few youth players. If he can manage this, then I think Martinez will be successful with Everton and take us a step further.

Cheers.

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03 Jun 2013 21:50:27
I think he is the right man for the job ok wigan were relegated after 8 years of being in premiership let's look at where Wigan have come from there fan base is low so to come on the journey they have is special so Martinez took them down and let's remember they won the cup in style as well not just luck they out played teams all the way to final and that includes us, he put the DNA into Swansea let's not forget Rogers and laudrup have just added to it but there style of play is down to Martinez and even had wigan playing wonderful stuff, yes there defending was shocking but he is not stupid he will be coming into club that have a great set up and if he can add to what we have then he can take us up another level players I would like to see him bring with him are Macarthy, Maloney and mcmanaman remember guys our midfield needs adding to it with the future of felleni uncertain osman getting older Gibson injury problems Neville finished its not strong enough so those three and a striker we have a great chance to have another go next season but we need to give Martinez full backing and patience just like we did with moyes let's not be like other clubs and want it to click straight away and if It doesn't then sack him were everton and we get behind our people that's why we're the people's club

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03 Jun 2013 21:50:20
ok, to the person who posted kenwright out out out, so you haven't put it quite right, we still need to respect kenwright, but I know where your coming from, we will go nowhere with kenwright, look at the state of the stadium, the team looks great, but that's all down to moyes and he's gone, so now its time for bill to go, ok he can have some sort of honorary chairman, but enough is enough of our club being ran 2nd rate

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03 Jun 2013 21:50:03
welcome to the blues roberto.

any 1 who turn LFC down will do for me,
i give you 100% support.

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03 Jun 2013 21:45:40
He took wigan down can't defend conceded most goals and a win rate of 20%

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Yep. This will all end in tears and Bungling Bill will be paying compensation for the privilege of hiring him and then be forking out to sack him. You couldn't make it up. Well, technically that isn't true because this is William Kenwright's Everton.

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03 Jun 2013 23:26:27
But it would appear we are in the minority guys. totally agree

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03 Jun 2013 21:41:28
Hopefully that is most of the negatives out of the way. Whoever got appointed would not please everyone so its just tough on those who don't like it.
Now is not the time to get on at bill or anybody else. It is time to stand together and get behind our team and let's give them a chance.

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03 Jun 2013 21:34:18
Welcome Roberto looking forward to attacking football at last.

Our manager has won more trophies than the United and RS managers combined.

Hey Ed, what is the difference between the post a reply and the post an alternative reply tabs?

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Fans starting to come around to roberto. after his first press conference it will get better. the man is class, his style of play is the everton way. good times ahead but please the board back him

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There is no difference mate, sometimes you can't post with the 'Reply' button if on your phone, tablet, etc so you would use the 'Alternative Reply'.

Mike

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03 Jun 2013 21:33:21
Martinez Not my 1st choice, but neither was David moyes. Plus Martinez turned down the red Norwegians! ha

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03 Jun 2013 21:33:05
our supporters are like a gang of old women! moaning like kopites! we all criticised moyes on his approach and tactics even though we all praised him on turning the club on the right tracks after a period of desperation with walter and co!the defence isn't changing and roberto has the same lads plus whoever he brings in!his style of attack and appetite to play ball the right way is what we need to kick on! credit to moyes in steadiying the ship into safe waters and keeping us their! but also goodbye!we need martinez and he needs everton! let's give it a go! with stubbsy and weir to guide him defensively, big duncan to install a bit of order and passion, and the best little spaniard we know to spin his attacking magic! bring on the kopites and co!

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03 Jun 2013 21:26:44
Ok, So the big news is we have agreed a compensation deal with wigan, RM would not of been my preferred choice of manager but But if he is then we really need to get behind the guy and give him a shot! Attacking Football, Two up Top, And give youth a chance please Bobby IMWT COYB

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03 Jun 2013 21:23:47
Whelan couldn't wait to get his fat gob in the press before anyone else yet again, no class pie eating sphinkter muscle

Degsy

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Show a bit of respect, the guy is still getting over the mental scars of breaking his leg in the 1960 FA Cup final at Wembley.

Mike {Ed025's Note - love it mike..

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Haha quality mike I'm in stitches mate

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03 Jun 2013 21:22:35
Get behind him instead of saying 'were going down' or 'kenwright out' and no the majority didn't want pereira just the majority of the no name posters who are likely all the same person 'but he has a poor defensive record' WITH WIGAN hardly fair to compare emerson boyce, ivan ramis and stam with baines, distin and jagielka he plays good attacking football which we have been crying out for instead of negativity in every big game and I saw a post before saying martinez doesn't go for it in games, are you on something? Fa cup final could bring on a defender like caldwell and hope for penalties but no brings on another midfielder and an attacking one at that and look what happened if you only support everton because of moyes then go support manchester united because your negative comments about a manager who hasn't started yet or said anything bad about us in the past are just silly get behind him and support our team WE ARE EVERTON

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Indeed we R indeed we R! Well said Son.

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03 Jun 2013 21:19:16
Just read the 'compo' reports on Zky

If true then I personally ask all Evertonians to rally round the sacred Blue Flag!

Whoever is our ship's master we must back him to the hilt!

Nil Satis Nisi Optimum

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03 Jun 2013 21:18:10
If we have the money we should buy soldado, negredo, atsu and fer, then loan one or two players with a view to a permanent deal.

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One problem with that plan mate. We don't have the money.

Mike

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As much as i'd like them players I don't think we. ll get them as they were moyes targets

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Why? You seriously think we have over £30m to spend? You're going to be very disappointed when these don't materialise. I don't know what planet you live on but it's not the same one I inhabit, which is Earth.

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03 Jun 2013 21:18:06
Am I the only one who doesn't mind martinez coming to the club? {Ed025's Note - no..

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Always wanted him to be our next manager.

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03 Jun 2013 21:17:10
Why do some people think Martinez will relegate us Ed? He won't come into Everton (A MUCH better side than f*cking Wigan) with the aim of keeping us up! ffs he'll be wanting to challenge for European spots & trophies!!

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03 Jun 2013 21:12:51
Martinez, fair enough, get behind the lad. The one thing that's got on me tits ed is the last 4 or 5 days of complete silence from the club. I know we like to do things with a touch of class and that's how it should be. But do u reckon we've been waiting all this time because Whelan as been taking the piss over the compo or do u reckon it's backroom staff who's going, staying etc. OR do you reckon there mite still be a bit a surprise with regards RM assistant, takeover or watever. {Ed025's Note - i think more likely the compo mate..

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03 Jun 2013 21:11:24
Not going to be one of those guys that immediately says this is an awful appointment and we will be in the championship next season because I will get behind Martinez 100% and give him a chance, but I do have my concerns about him.

Wigan got 10th place under Paul Jewell and 10th place under Steve Bruce in his last season. Martinez then came in and they found themselves in three consecutive relegation battles, which, most recently, they lost.

People say that they are one clinical striker away from a top half finish - they're top scorer (kone - 13) had more goals than ours! (Fellaini - 12). People say they won the cup - we put up no resistance, Millwall are Millwall and City didn't look like they cared either, it wasn't difficult. People say they played beautiful football - They did, but with the players they had, you'd expect them to be winning with it to. I mean: Kone, Maloney, McCarthy, McManaman, Gomez. All good, premier league quality players. Personally, I don't see this as a particularly good thing for Everton and just hope he proves me wrong.

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Yes we can say we were bad that day but they destroyed us and man city end of no one says Manchester United won league yea but they had the 2nd worst defence out of the top 8 they won its had simple as that Martinez led a team to win fa cup not by luck but by beating everyone they faced we couldn't do it moyes is the perfect fit for utd and Martinez for us people just can't see it we won't be defending as bad as Wigan did don't panic we have sensible defenders and defensive coaches in place

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Finally, an Everton fan who has smelt the Nescafe.

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03 Jun 2013 21:11:04
Fantastic news

Really pleased with this appointment. We MUST get behind Roberto now. let's show the rest of the premier league how sagacious we are as football fans. Roberto will need time, we are NOT expecting to win a trophy this season, it should be about consolidation.
A top 10 finish is good, survival is minimum of course but we must be patient. The buyer will come. in the mean time I urge all Evertonians to support our club and cheer our players on.

Its difficult as a blue to really look at our club through non-tinted spectacles however all my colleagues and patients always comment on how the Big Goodison nights are epic to witness from afar. The stern and rambunctious pillars of Goodison park tremble under the soul billowing out from our royal blue veins.

Come on Roberto
Come on Everton
Come on you Blues.

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Lad apart from swallowing a dictionary your post is more mixed up than a Gin and Tonic (witty use of sarcasm), Top 10 finish is GOOD? Survival is MINIMUM? Your colleagues and patients? Coming out with a few of your comments methinks you are a patient and you`ve nicked a doctors white coat, I think you are intoxicated by the exuberence of your own verbosity!

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03 Jun 2013 21:07:46
Not disappointed with the decision. Think Martinez has something about him. no one comes to Goodison and wins 3 zip if he has not got a footall brain. I was a Moyse supporter and sorry to see him go but I also admit I won't miss his press conferences and Roberto will give us more of a smile. Good luck to you Roberto, if we can get some investment you could be the right man at the right time!
Oscar

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Oscar, have you asked yourself how that team that beat you 3 zip got relegated by any chance?.

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03 Jun 2013 21:03:27
What is clear is the club's PR men are caught sleeping on the job yet again. Where are the club statements, website updates, proposed press conferences etc.
No wonder all sky are talking about is Chelsea.

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03 Jun 2013 21:00:00
whats all this talk about a Red Bull take over? is it the normal post-season takeover talk?

Lets all get behind bobby, fresh start for the new season, we can start thinking about our new kit now.

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03 Jun 2013 20:59:19
£2 mil compo. Well done BK that's 4 x Gibson or 1/3 of a Mirrallas.

Good job you know business!

Just peeved right now. I'll be OK in the morning.

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03 Jun 2013 20:59:01
People are judgeing martinez allready and he hasn't walked thru the door yet judge him after 2 years we are everton football club we have the best fans in the world let's get behind martinez

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03 Jun 2013 20:57:09
OK my fellow blues, I wanted Pereira but let's get behind Martinez and give all the support we've got and not get on his back, too early to make judgement on him. Let's think positive. IMWT

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03 Jun 2013 20:56:52
Old svenny has gone a bit quiet on here recently lads.
BluenoseTommy

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03 Jun 2013 20:55:51
Ed your head must be cabbaged mate, i'm guessing you are deleting most of the garbage, hold it together fella as it will be tomorrows chip paper soon

Degsy {Ed025's Note - cheers degs..

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03 Jun 2013 20:47:32
MARTINEZ it is then! Give the bloke a chance get behind him and your team!
COYB!

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Y people Givin Martinez stick. the Swansea success was based on foundations placed by Martinez not Rodgers, that's why lpool approached Martinez first. he changed Wigan into a side that gave all the big teams a game and beat nearly all of them. wigan are a tiny club but still won the fa cup. they were always guna fall one season,. his teams seem to want to play for him. welcome roberto stick to your principles and style of football and u will soon win over the sceptics

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03 Jun 2013 20:47:18
Martinez it is then. Seems like a safe option and would have preferred someone to push and challenge the board rather than someone who will simply bow down and accept what he's told as they will give him nothing if they can.

In saying all that, time to get on board and give the team our support. Won't be happy though if he signs anyone from wigan as there's no one good enough for the blues. Mcmanaman is average and won't budge mirrallas. Kone is no where near the quality we need. McArthur is woeful. So leave them be and look to improve the squad with 2 or three QUALITY players.

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03 Jun 2013 20:52:17
Well based on that thank god we didn't appoint you as manager.

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Mccarthy is imo a quality player bluejohn from what I've seen of him mate.

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Dont get me wrong. they would be good signings for average clubs but we need to be pushing on. Spurs, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal will spend well this summer and buy proven quality. For us to progress we have to as well.

You tell me are any of those teams going to buy from Wigan?

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03 Jun 2013 20:39:01
Soo. it's Martinez, been confirmed on tv! Best thing to do is get behind him and give him a chance, hopefully he can bring in McMannaman and McCarthy with him, and try and bring some young talent, both English and Spanish
I would like to see us sign that Deulofeu lad from Barcelona

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03 Jun 2013 20:35:55
PHEW finally. Now let's all get behind the new man and show him he has our full support. Hope he brings callum mc manaman or mc carthy with him

Andy

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03 Jun 2013 20:35:14
Quick question to the lads slamming Roberto before he's even signed. what had Moyes done before he signed for us? What had he won? He was a no mark managing a no mark team. WE gave him the chance and he did really well. Before we slag off Roberto, let's get behind him and give the fella a chance. All this talk about us 'being in a fight to stay up' and 'not going forward' is rubbish. No one knows yet so let's give him a chance. I appreciate that everyone is entitled to their own opinion so I'm sorry if I have affended anyone.

Everton Al.

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Back then, we were a team fighting the drop! Now we ought to be a far more attractive proposition. Lack of ambition appointment this one! Well done on getting your yes man Bill!

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03 Jun 2013 20:35:06
Salut, je vis � Paris, en France et je suis � l'int�rieur du PSG club, je suis inform� que Blaise Matuidi et Kevin Gameiro sont li�s � Everton FC pour la saison prochaine. C'est un double coup de 32 M � et un mouvement de pr�t pour Mohamed Sissoko est une bonne possibilit�. Cela est cens� �tre orchastrated par Red Bull et l'on croit �tre la cons�quence d'une prise de contr�le. Je vais informer de nouvelles connaissances sur la question.

J�r�mie {Ed025's Note - cru de te al a plat!...as delboy would say..

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03 Jun 2013 20:34:02
Trust Dave Whelan to break the news! Will be excited to see if Martinez can beat his overall 25% win record with us. Bit sceptical to be honest but I am genuinely excited about the signings and next season. Good luck Roberto!

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03 Jun 2013 20:32:53
Absolutely devastated with this news, still don't really know what to say so I won't go on a rant, just hope my fears are proven wrong
I'll always fully support the club, and my love for us still as strong as ever, which is the reason I feel like I do!

I welcome Martinez to the club but pray he doesn't bring any players with him

King Chong

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03 Jun 2013 20:29:04
Ed, now Martinez is all but confirmed. What is your opinion on his appointment? do you think he will go for the same philosophy as he did at Wigan or will he play it a bit more cautiously?

Mark B {Ed025's Note - we will carry on like last year, only with a bit more flair mark, it will be a progression rather than a overhaul mate..

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03 Jun 2013 20:24:59
Bill I`ve just heard the news,
You said you`d think over our views,
We said Pereira, we couldn`t be fairer,
But Martinez now bosses The Blues.

Now we all love our great team,
To boss them it must be a dream,
So give Robbie some money,
Dip deep in the honey,
And bring us some trophies we SCREAM.

Roberto your welcome, come in,
We want glory back here again,
The league or a cup, we`d be made up,
We hope you can cope with the strain.

Our defence is nice and steady
Our strikers they`re pumped up and ready
Your football is tight, You said NO to the s****
So you`re an Everton legend already.

Good Luck Roberto and welcome to the greatest Football club you will ever be involved with. {Ed025's Note - thats quality hugster...superb mate..

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Makes it feel a lot better that he essentially chose us over them

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Love it.

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03 Jun 2013 20:15:54
Welcome to our great club Roberto.

Proove all the doubters wrong. As a fan u will have my 100% backing like the majority of Evertonians.
If u are as smart as I think you are tough lessons will have been learnt. Good luck and we will now await your official welcome to the footballing club of science.
Nil Satis Nisi Optimum.

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Everton have been brilliant at home this season only one side have played us off the park. wigan. martinez is a progressive manager, Wigan would always struggle to stave off relegation regardless of whoever was in charge. he's brought on young players and made them better players. there defense was hit by horrendous injuries, but its an area were he must know improvement is needed,. good appointment let's get behind him

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03 Jun 2013 20:08:19
I know some people don't want him, but I for one am pleased with the appointment.

Plays excellent, attacking, free flowing football
Happy to trust/play youth (even if they aren't Wigan academy)
Picked up a few fantastic bargain buys
Good scouting knowledge in south america it seems
Won FA Cup
Young, good reputation
Media friendly
Turned down Liverpool
Seems like the sort to be happy to build a legacy and stay for a long time

Would surely benefit from having a Weir/Stubbs etc. as no. 2/ coach and simply having better defenders

Also seems like a great guy too, please can everyone get behind him - regardless if you wanted him or not. COYB IMWT (Martinez)

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AJ, let me give you a slightly different angle.

1/ I will give you the attacking football, however wait till your scratching your head at the sudden lack of work rate without the ball.

2/ don't kid yourself. Took him over 18 months to give McManaman a game. when it was clear he had massive potential, I won't even mention Fyife, Golobart, Campandbal who have hardly played this season.

3/ He has, but you forget to mention Mauro Bosselli, whos he?, I hear you ask. I will tell you. Wigans record signing at 6.5 million, who he decided after 4 games wasnt good enough and has spent 3 seasons being farmed out on loan to other clubs.

4/ He hasn't put the South American Scouting network in place, Wigan Athletic have. These South American links were established long before Martinez joined Wigan

5/ He did, no arguing about that. Best day of my life, however you didn't mention he also got the same squad relegated.

6/ Talking reputations. so did Bearings bank back in the day.

7/ he's good at the media bit, it won't however win you football games. He will tell you how you need "Time to Gel", also "How you weren't yourselves"and "how he loves the cloooob"

8/ Really. Do you really think he was offered the job?, with respect, do you really believe he would turn down your friends from across Stanley Park.

Not looking to get into a debate, just offer you an alternative view. GOOD LUCK

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Ok, your point about the youngsters is fair, I'm sure you're right, but like our outgoing manager - he has gained a reputation, perhaps wrongly, for nurturing young players. McCarthy, di Santo, Joel all given game time despite age. I know who Mauro Boselli thanks very much, I've seen him play for Palermo this season and he's obviously hopeless fair enough. However, every manager has bad signings. Even the best. Moyes certainly had a few rare big signings which didn't come off, even Fergie had his flops. Martinez has made some excellent signings, often cheaply, the likes of Diame, Valencia, N'Zogbia, di Santo, Kone, McCarthy, Beausejour, Maloney spring to mind and I'm sure there are others too. It may well be that the scouting network is Wigan's, but who's to say he won't take it with him? Or maybe you can give him some credit for it? Besides, it's not exactly a crucial point. Same goes for the media friendly bit. Whether or not you think he would really reject Liverpool, we have finished above them for 2 seasons in a row now - they are no longer the massive draw they were. I know you were relegated under him, but frankly I believe this won't be a danger with Everton's squad and fanbase, and we are imo crying out for a manager like him. GOOD LUCK in the championship.

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03 Jun 2013 20:07:39
Well it look's like it's all sorted. First none British manager, hopefully that little bit of flair and creativity we need to take us forward. We've got to get behind him boys and girls. COYB! (Wavertree Blue) {Ed025's Note - your right wavo..

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03 Jun 2013 20:05:24
well i'm happy and worried about martinez, defensive worries for me there is, he is bad at defending due to the attacking approach, but thanks to moyes' defensive structure over the years I am a little more confident, but seen it then he's won a quarter of his games with wigan, all be it there's a poor side to work with, but look at the side moyes inherrited and still worked wonders, high's and low's of robbie

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03 Jun 2013 20:04:53
MARTINEZ. Really!! How underwhelming and uninspiring. Can't see us pushing on with this guy. Don't get me wrong I will support the manager, no need for any displays like chelski with Benitez, but I just feel it shows a total lack of ambition on the clubs behalf.

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It shows where we are as a club, we can't afford the best lack of ambition does not come into it. {Ed025's Note - have a day off mate..

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03 Jun 2013 20:02:40
well to the fella claiming he's 'dave whelan' you changed your mind quick? thought he was going spain? ahh well happy with the signing! ed do you think he'll bring any wigan players with him? if so who? and what players do you think we can/should sign? {Ed025's Note - he may bring 1 or 2 mate, but only top ones..

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03 Jun 2013 20:00:45
I am very concerned and nervous about Martinez possibly now being our new manager. I don't need to go on about his record in the prem, it has been very well documented on here. Like everyone one of us we simply need to get behind him nowM

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You might be very worried, but myself i'm looking forward to some fantastic attacking football next season after 11 years of sheer boredom under Moyes, so i'm completely behind our new manager.

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03 Jun 2013 19:59:01
Now its all sorted can we all give robby a chance. maybe for a lot of us not first choice but he's who we have got. so let's get behind him and give him a chance. let's welcome him into our everton family. good luck robby {Ed025's Note - your right john...well said fella..

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03 Jun 2013 19:51:05
Why oh why do some guys on here just type up lies? Nothing new on VP or Martinez tonight so like a JR 'Who done it' we wait another day!
I really don't know what I will do when all this is over, perhaps I'll get out more!

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Listen you mushy pea get tv on the special one is coming
blue ducky

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03 Jun 2013 20:00:53
Wake up Mushy its all over. RM got the job.

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03 Jun 2013 19:03:17
what do you think the odds are of us naming our manager tomorrow ed?

Andy {Ed025's Note - im not sure mate..

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Compensation agreed with Wigan. it's Martinez on sky. I'm happy we all want good football and with are defence should be solid, let's get behind him

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Am with you mate let's get on with what we no best IMWT COYB

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03 Jun 2013 19:03:14
Does anyone among the usual posters know for sure when the club's loans (debts) are due for repayment in full or when they are due to have their T&Cs renegotiated and renewed? Could the renewal be now - and as such is affecting the timing of the manager decision?
I'm also concerned that our future revenue streams are already committed to servicing these debts and we won't have all of the increased TV and prize money made available for squad strengthening. Without improved commercial income or a modern stadium that provides increased matchday income I see us being unable to compete, even modestly as we have in the past, in the transfer market.
Without enough good players, the new manager - whoever he is - could struggle to deliver results IMHO and he'll be forced to bring through the young players earlier than he'd perhaps like. (At least they would be brought through!)
But hey - ever the optimist - once a blue, always a blue!

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03 Jun 2013 18:41:14
Questions?. Why the delay in naming a manager. Why the delay in the new kit launch?. If bill did meet Ralph what was it for if it was not the managers job?. How will the new tv money effect us? We will be taken over?. Will Tony Hibbert score a league goal?.

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03 Jun 2013 18:34:18
Why does everybody want somebody with no prem experience like pereira? His own fans dislike him. yeah wigan went down but were a lot better than wigan, Martinez plays lovely football and with a stubbs or weir in his coaching staff to help with the defensive side we'd be flying IMO! IMWT COYB!
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Laudrup, mourino, etc had no pl when they came to the EPl. So what if a couple of candidates don't you never know.

Zt.

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03 Jun 2013 17:23:02
Dear mr kenwright, mr martinez is a real nice guy, unfourtuatly we need a drivern, ruthless, ego nutter, one who is willing to do whatever it takes to win. The manager, whoever he may be, is there to produce a winning team, not to make you look good or polish your mr everton halow. so bill, time to grow a set, put in place, a real bas---d, one who does not give a dam about upsetting anyone as long as he wins. that's the person we have needed for a very long time.

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Sadly he's just gone to Chelsea mate.

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Sounds like big dunc to me (not that I think he's ready) but that's what you've described!

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03 Jun 2013 18:03:08
I'm an Evertonian, I prefer class and dignity.

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Sounds like Alan Sugar then.

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03 Jun 2013 19:41:24
JCW100 I think I love you!
Yes been sayin it for years

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03 Jun 2013 17:21:19
Whats been irksome about all this and what really worries me is the Time. Whoever comes in will have a month and a bit to sort out what he wants and needs. Players out and in, lowering the age of the squad, getting in his own backroom staff, preperations for pre-season, getting in a system of play through to players and staff, Media duties, learning about the club, learning about the Board (God help him), New Kit promotion. Ohhh yeah and then hit the ground running.
Thanks Moyes, could have had this all in preperation from last xmas really.

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Totally agree. moyes strung BK along even planning for next season.
i know a lot of people on here love moyes but I say "good riddence"


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Imo moyes knew he was going to united at xmas. If anyone can remember sir purple noses interview after he announced he was retiring he said he made his decision to retire at xmas, after his wifes sister had died it left her on her own, so he decided to retire to be with his wife. Nobody can become the manager of one of the biggest clubs in the world in 24 hours, all negotiations must of took place with moyes well ahead of him accepting the united job.

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How did moyes string kenwright along? kenwright has got a few quid out of it. wake up

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You need to wake up mate, we got nothing, not a penny in compo off united, moyes was out of contract

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He strung us all along by not signing a contract and saying he would wait till the end of the season which he didn't do. he obviously had discussions with UTD weeks or months earlier. anyway enough of whatshisname and onwards and upwards

come on Robbie Lad!

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Spot on Jimmy. he knew all along.

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03 Jun 2013 16:51:14
I defentely. Want stubb as number 2 whoever take the managers job

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03 Jun 2013 16:35:52
I'm still optomistic about Pereira, he's my first choice over Martinez on looking at how he has done with Porto. Two of his best players have also now gone to Monaco so maybe he wants a new challenge at a new club?

Barry the blue

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03 Jun 2013 16:12:55
Christ I wouldn't fancy getting BKs mobile bill at the end of the month and whilst I'm on where the bloody hell are those redundant News of the World phone hackers when you need them!

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03 Jun 2013 15:49:19
Just seen Jaun Riquelme, chatting with Rangnick and drinking red bull at Liverpool airport!

On a serious note I think Rangnick is sounding more and more the likely candidate. He is bound to try and cool links with the post as he is currently employed but one thing he didn't do is deny he wants the role. Another thing is that if it was to be Martinez then I would have thought it would be a done deal by now.

I also agree that Periera was probably using it as a bargaining tool and the fact he is probably going to be given a sizeable transfer kitty should keep him at the club.

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Transfer kitty won't matter to him he doesn't sign the players.

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You could have a point there, all the reports today stem from one source, which seems to be a stalking journalist type rather than an interview, again there was no flat out denial. On the other hand the various stories about him flying in for an interview and what supposedly transpired seem to be from a few different sources rather than a rehash of the same one.

In fact all he said was "Don't believe all you read in the press. " Perhaps we may end up with a Blue Kaiser who has a sense of humour?

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03 Jun 2013 15:23:11
Can someone tell me about victor Pereira? Everyone's jumping on the bandwagon but I don't know much about him

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You don't need to know about him, Martinez is the Everton manager and everyone knows it.

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03 Jun 2013 15:10:45
BK, being a theatrical, should know that the essence of comedy is timing. Well, his delivery is overlong as far as the new manager appointment is concerned - and its not meant to be a joke and mustn't turn into a tragedy. Patience is a virtue, but indecision is fatal.

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Hold on fella, that's only round one. oops sorry did bill not mention that little thing.

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03 Jun 2013 14:48:52
Come on then kenwright hurry up b4 the candidates lose interest. I know he's taking his time for the next option of managers. But it's killing us with the suspense. ryanfromleic

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03 Jun 2013 14:41:30
Does anybody else think that Martinez is the back-up option. Surely if Bill wanted him that bad he would have offered him a contract straight away before other teams had the chance to speak to him. Think there is a lot more going on in the background then any of us know about.

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03 Jun 2013 14:18:55
From what I have been told by an Everton employee is that people don't know what is happening.

Bill hasn't informed even the likes of Ferguson, Irvine, Sheedy what his plans are. What I have been told is that fund will be made available in the summer and money (not if all or a %) of sales will go back into the squad.

Next season the club want to start bring through some young lads and give them a chance to shine.

An Ed is more than welcome to email me I will tell them who told me but I won't write it on her as everyone has been told not to speculate. {Ed025's Note - no one has been told not to speculate mate...its a rumours site..

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Not an Ed has been told to speculate the Everton employees ha ha ha

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03 Jun 2013 14:09:40
At the moment all the talk is about the new manager and rightly so because its dragged on far too long now, another situation though this causes is transfers some clubs have already done abit of business we all know we need to strengthen the squad but until we get the manager and identify transfer targets we are way off being ready for the start of next season i'm hoping we get someone in soon and the hard work begins LEE1878

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03 Jun 2013 12:59:24
So martinez is to be the next manager and all I see on hear is 'We're getting relegated' 'Please not him' 'Kenwright out'

Well, you're all fools who constantly go on
about this. If you don't want him fair enough but were not getting relegated. Kenwright isn't as rich as most chairmens, he does what he can and always does right by the club.

Martinez plays a 352 with Alcaraz, Caldwell and Figeroua Cb's. These 3 are not PL standard, compared with The solid Phil Jagielka who blocks everything, is rarely taken on and wins 90% of headers none of these 3 compare. Distin who is getting on but is fasterthan most strikers in the PL, also wins 90% of aerial battles and is solid with jags. Then our 3rd CB. Heitinga maybe going but still he is an established Dutch international and for one I would rather keep him. If not whoever we sign is going to be 10x what wigans cbs are.

Wingbacks. Okay so anyone who had ever watched wigan under RM knows that Espinoza/Jean Beausejour/Boyce constantly get acres of space around in the final third in wide areas. Everton with Baines/Coleman Often get into those areas also from a playing rb/lb not rwb/lwb. Expect everton to make clearcut chances from pullbacks quite often next season and I think the old Jelly with return and hit 15+ (Personal Feeling) Now cdms. i'd be looking at felli/gibbo. felli breaking up play and being a ball winner whilst adding his techical abilities will be a wonderful compliment to gibbos composure, Ability to control a game and his passing range.

Mirallas will play the maloney role, Getting the ball 25 yrds from goal in a morecentral area Kev will be scoring for fun, conmiting defenders, playing balls out wide and then getting the box for the cut backs. Ifancy kev for 15+ goals this season.

Strikers. Jelly deserves a chance for me and we need another CF as we allknow. for me negredo. Forthe chances everton create we need a finisher who is alert and techically brilliant. I watch laliga week in week out. This is the guy.

What i'm getting at is we are goingto finally be scoring 2, 3, 4 against teams like norwich, fulham, villa. teams we struggle to beat for some reason season in season out.

give him a chance and get behind him.

Joe royle was relegated before he came here. moyes was a championship manager before he came. Always the same people piping up having a go at bk then months later you all go quiet

Paul the blue.



P. s Negredo to efc, RM being spanish may further reinforce lur case. just a suggestion nothing fact there

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Great post that. although if it is martinez, unsure if he'll play that formation but if he does I for one will be happy and I like the thought you've given to the post. well done makes a change from the usual doom and gloom by some on this site.

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Great post that mate. I think there is a lot of positives to be had if we hire RM. As you say, are teams are worlds apart and he could be excellent for us! Even with our teams worlds apart, he still beat us 3-0 in our own back yard. I do have to admit that RM is growing on me as the days go by. I will be giving him my full backing.

IMWT!

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Paul the blue:

'' Well, you're all fools who constantly go on
about this. If you don't want him fair enough but were not getting relegated. Kenwright isn't as rich as most chairmens, he does what he can and always does right by the club. ''

''fools''

1: Most posters who express their concerns over RM don't mention relegation!

2:All posters who express their concerns about RM have every right to and are not all ''fools'' by any means!

3: All posters who dismiss the issue or subject of RM taking WAFC into the championship as 'of no importance and does not merit debate' are ' fools'

4: We as Evertonians will continue to have valid and to some extent volatile opinions.

Live with our opinions as we have to live with yours

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Really good post, GarstonBlue

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03 Jun 2013 14:15:32
albiet paul a good post with some valid points, but surely the reason Wigan conceeded so many goals last season, and seasons before it was due to their set up of 3 5 2. If Martinez does come to everton, I would hope he doesn't adjust the set up too much, maybe to a 4-3-3 that is attacking based, but can easily convert to a 4-4-2 or a 4-5-1, keeping 4 at the back is essential to not conceeding goals, as you pointed out baines and coleman get forward enough anyway so wouldn't make much difference to our attacking threat, but I worry we would commonly ship goals playing 3 at the back. We are tried and tested defensive system so hope Martinez would not change that side to us tactically, but rather employ a system where we play our way up the field utilising our midfield more. I would like to see:
Howard
Baines Distan Jagielka Coleman
Osman/Barkley Fellaini Gibson
Pienaar Jelavic Mirallas
Keeping the system of baines and pienaar combining on the left, coleman and mirallas on the right, osman or barkley playing in a more advanced role behind jelavic and fellaini and gibson controling the middle of the park. the difference being the ball will travel forwards with felli/ gibson rather than punted forwards to fellaini. This I feel will allow everton to be more expresive with their football and get us the wins instead of draws to propel us to european football. hoipe the seaon pans out this way and we back our new manager with a packed out goodison each week singing their hearts out like the last game of the season every week.

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Not a bad post that apart from the fact that Martinez has never played a 3-5-2 in the 4 years he's been at Wigan. He has always employed 1 central front man (Sammon, Di Santo, Kone etc) as part of an attacking 3. Either paying a 3-4-3 or a 4-2-3-1

Youre also being a little harsh on Alcaraz, and to be honest i'm wondering how you can form this opinion, bearing in mind he only kicked a ball with about 10 games to go last season, even then picked up a groin injury and missed 4 of these.
Maybe you didn't go to the QF of the FA cup were he was absoloutley outstanding. He has good feet, and can read the game very well. This is a good job cause he does lack a yard of pace.

He will let Jelavic go i'm afraid, (my opinion). He lacks the physical prescence, or pace that Martinez will look for. On the rare occasions he asks his side to be direct, he likes the ball to stick so that he can play from there.

Im a Wigan fan and I am not Martinez biggest fan to be honest, that said, we have played some good football under him. It goes without saying that defensively we have been poor. I won't make excuses for injuries, but tread carefully, as under Bruce we conceeded 45 goals the season before Martinez joined. Virtually the same backline conceeded 79 goals the season after.

I agree that in Distin, Jagielka etc he has better players to work with. For this reason I think Martinez could work for you. You will have to adjust to his style though and that could take a while.

I like Everton, they are a real football club and they get behind their side, (FA Cup QF apart). I have though on accasions seen them turn on their players and I can see a lot of this while they go through the tactical transition.

In the long term it could work, in the short term there are some frustrating days ahead. The big question is "Will you stick with it"?

I wish you all the best if Martinez gets the job. You may well need it.

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To Paul the Blue: excellent post, mate. Well reasoned points IMHO.

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03 Jun 2013 12:20:25
I stated two weeks ago we need to appoint a foreign manager. And I also stated that Roberto would not leave Wigan unless he had something lined up. Why else would we approach Wigan to speak to him. Let's back him as we can do a lot worse. Personally o would get alcaraz and kone as well.

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Don't think anybody else has been considered, why would he leave Wigan, again Kenwright has conned us all, like the badge issue. Kenwright out?
Bluenose.

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03 Jun 2013 14:20:48
as opposed to alcaraz and kone, would prefer mccarthy. think he is the player who could add something to everton, along with martinez style of play passing movement and not hoof ball. jelavic will be a new signing again next season. playing to his strengths in and around the box rather than chasing lost causes up the wings. leave that job to pienaar and mirallas. CraigHuytonBlue

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03 Jun 2013 12:17:50
Rm for me. ok record in premier with a suspect team. Should be a good replacement. hopefully he will get the funds for some good players. If and when we find out who it will be.

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03 Jun 2013 11:11:00
Has anyone got eyes on GP or FF for when the media circus turns up?

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03 Jun 2013 11:04:52
Ed could I just clarify what I said in my original post over potential Martinez post this morning.
I simply stated that I believe this to be a dreadful appointment but if it happens, it happens and I will support him to the hilt. What did disturb me is not one post reply has answered my original question of why Martinez?
Most simply fire back the usual 'get behind him' or you're not a true blue cr*p.
I posted prior to news for that reason, after we know I will support him and really do hope I am 100% wrong.

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Mushy:

Ignore the stock responses e. g. 'stop moaning about our beloved RM and don't be a traitor to the cause ' stuff.

It's a poor argument when imagined rubbish is thrown at a fellow Evertonian,
as a means to win the debate.

Once again I reiterate my point that RM though inheriting a very good squad he (if he doesn't change his approach to the defensive side of the game) could quite easily demoralize a perfectly capable team of intelligent footballers who have been taught well by the new managers predecessor!

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It is martinez because his experience of working on a small budget (as will probably be the case at everton), his ability to bring through and play youth players, his attacking football, his good media image and the fact that many evertonians do want him (although personally he is not my ideal choice). that answer your question?

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03 Jun 2013 12:26:29
Although I'm yet to 100% convinced I think he might be just what we need. He's 39 [as was Moyes when he joined us], however he has got 4 years Premier League experience and won the FA Cup, having previously played a major role in getting Swansea promoted. Moyes had only taken Preston to the First Division at same age. I like his style of play and whilst his lack of defence was a problem this season he did have major injuries in the defence all year against Arsenal he had 8 first teamers missing. Now I would expect him to learn from his experiences and be absolutely over the moon to have 2 English internationals in Baines and Jags as well as Distin, Coleman, Duffy coming through, Oviedo and others in defence[ Jonny can go asap]. Holding on to our best [Baines will stay] and buying 2-3 other class players, CM, striker and Gk and more if we sell some of the fringe players and things begin to add up for me.
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I agree with this post, a man who has spent the last 4 years fighting relegation, is not the one I wish to see running our club, so much for bill listerning to fans views.

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He plays attractive football, he got swansea playing the way they do, rogers and laudrup just inherrited it. His style of play would fit us perfectly with baines and coleman running down the flanks as wing backs as fellani ( from center mid) a new striker and a in-form jelavic get thier head on it. Also the football we would play would suit jelavic perfectly with through balls from a new creative center mid. He can also work on a small budget and fing gems like kone although I wouldn't like everton to sign him as he is too old. He won the fa cup witch moyes couldn't do in 11 years. The only bad thing is his teams difensive record but with jags, duffy, distin and a new cb we WILL push for top 4

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03 Jun 2013 11:03:36
Welcome aboard roberto to our fantastic club. welcome to the family. let's get behind him folks from the outset. he's not stupid and he will not tinker with our proven system. he will bring flair, positivity, a few good new additions. And he will be sold on the clubs traditions. he will make us a better team than we are now. we drew 14 times last season because moyes always set out to not lose a game rather than going out and winning it. its been that way for 11 years. I for one am really excited about the imminent appointment.

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03 Jun 2013 11:19:52
Er, 'we drew 14 times last season because moyes always set out to not lose a game rather than going out and winning it. '
EFC wins =16
Wigan=9

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I highly doubt Moyes always set out to lose a game. Otherwise he wouldn't have got the United job. The draws were down to poor finishing.

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He never set out to lose a game, but its difficult to argue that he didn't go for draws. Every time we were winning: get the striker off for another defender or Naismith (which in itself is basically giving up) so I hope we try to always go for wins. That said, I still have concerns regarding Martinez

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Well poor finishing and an inability to see games out. Hopefully that might improve under the new manager. (Wavertree Blue)

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03 Jun 2013 12:28:09
Or the fact Moyes continued with 4-5-1 and was not as adventurous as he could have been.

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Out of any team in the prem last year we created the most chances in the oppositions box. but could not finish them!. FACT. If we had a world class striker last season we would be in the champions league without any doubt.

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03 Jun 2013 10:58:49
I would like to pose a few questions to all Martinez haters, or those who would preferably see somebody else take charge of our team on the basis that Martinez has just been relegated with Wigan. My questions are as follows:
1) How much in realistic terms is the Wigan squad worth compared to Evertons?
2) How much of a transfer budget did Matinez spend season upon season while with Wigan?
3) Which players did Matinez have to sell at the end of each season while he was at Wigan?
4) could all the answers to the questions above be the reason why Wigan were finally relegated and not Martinez' fault?
My belief is that Dave Whelan, due to being tight fisted, has ultimately sent his own club crashing into the chapionship, forcing Martinez to sell his best players each season and replacing them with average at best players, with little profit as it was going into whelans pocket or funding debt. Everton are no longer in the position where we have to sell our best players, and if we do, I'm sure kenwright would make any money from player sales available to Martinez should he become our new manager to spend on players. thoughts?

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1) Wigan £300 million Everton £700 million
2) £65 million
3) Pascal Chimbonda, Hugo Rodallega
4) No

Mike

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Also sold nzogbia, moses, valencia but to name a few

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03 Jun 2013 12:27:39
mike how about Valencia?, N'Zogbia?, Heskey?

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You didn't think I was being serious with my answers did you?
Do you really think that I rate Wigan's squad at £300 million, and that I think our squad is worth £700 million?
Has Martinez spent £65 million a season?
I just picked 2 awful players that Martinez has sold that is all.

Mike {Ed025's Note - you are the devil.. :)

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03 Jun 2013 10:57:24
Hey, thanks for being nice :-) Of course you are entitled to yr opinion which is fine with me. I will rarely ever post on here because I very rarely get 'inside info' if ever. I have no reason to place spurious posts for the fun of it. Come August I doubt I will have any contribution towards transfer rumours. The topic just struck a chord as it was what I was wondering and it tied in with what I have been told. Naturally yr suspicious due to some of the ridiculous rumours posted on here and that I am new. The only other forum I use is the Lindos or Pefkos forum on Trip Advisor where I give advice out and answer questions. I have no reason to waste my time making rumours up as I fly out to Pefkos on Wed and loads to do.

Whoever Bill chooses it appears he has been diligent and not a rushed decision and I will offer my full support for whoever gets the job.

Take it easy

Mart

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Hey Mart, we love Pefkos as well, been going there since 99 and saw the big eclipse on the beach there. Have a pint in Pefkos by night for me and say hello to the lads in Lee's bar down on the beach (best tuna baguettes in the village)
Domo

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03 Jun 2013 10:08:28
Any idea if there will be an announcement today Ed? And if so what time? {Ed025's Note - i think it will be today joe, but at what time i dont know..

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Still think it will be today Ed after the Mourinho announcement?

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03 Jun 2013 10:04:28
I'm sick to death of all the negativity on this page about the manager. We are starting to sound like the Reds

Tree Blue {Ed025's Note - i agree tree

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I agree aswell tree it just we have not know any other manager in 11 years. Expectations are high now with Everton fans we are so close to that champions league spot now we just don't want to slip away from it were desperate for the right man to take over. Martinez our trust lies with you now.

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03 Jun 2013 09:59:08
Only everton could take this long in appointing a new manager. The fixtures for next season are out in 16 days!
It's a good job there not running a blood transfusion service FFS! Get a move on! It's my birthday today give us some good news billy boy and hurry up about it!
Blue andy ( aged 42 ) {Ed025's Note - happy birthday andy. i hope you get martinez as your present mate..

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Happy Birthday Andy. It is also my wife's Birthday today, she is 70. Let's hope whoever gets the job can take us to the next level and get us into Europe.
WestDerbyBlue

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WestDerbyBlue, only aa nice fat cheque will be able to do that i'm afraid.

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03 Jun 2013 08:59:13
Ok it looks like Martinez so what's the problem?
A lot of people have been shouting for Laudrup why? He didn't lay the foundations for that team, Martinez did.
The reds jumped in for Bren why? He didn't build the Swans team? Martinez did.
So give the man a break. He's young comes with fresh ideas, and has an eye for a player. We have good players, and with a little more flair in midfield, and hopefully a goal scorer. I for one will be really looking forward to the coming season.

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I don't have anything personal against Martinez, but for god's sake we have an opportunity here. I am afraid its going to be same old same old, mid table. The plonker as chairman, no money, no ambition. Well let's get use to it fans, dithering Davey, morelike dithering Kenwright.
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Patsy, same old same old?
A lot of other clubs supporters would settle for that mate.
The only reason we didn't finish higher is because we didn't have a 20 goal man in the team. If he gets that right, then who knows.
Chin up mate be positive.

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03 Jun 2013 08:57:58
If it is Martinez get behind him this will be best set of players he has worked with add few more good players and watch us go ste46

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03 Jun 2013 08:40:51
So it looks like Martinez.
Ok stating now that I believe it will the worst appointment possible and really fear for our future.
But I ain't going to spit my dummy out later today (or tomorrow) when he announced.
Would appreciate however any Martinez fans (including ed) explaining what the great attraction is?
His record is dreadful
His 'Banzi' attacking approach sounds brilliant but it's just relagated Wigan.

Could any posts back not contain the usual, 'We've got better players, ' that's irrelevant.
Or some of the abuse that one lad got on Banter.
It really is an honest question. WHY?
RIP VP? {Ed025's Note - well for me mushy..he just fits..young and enthusiastic, plays good football, can work on a limited budget, media friendly, and respected by the majority of football..

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I think he'll be alright ed but surely being relegated shows that he can't work on a limited budget. ? It just shows that he has
Blue D {Ed025's Note - i get your point D, but with our present squad, he will not have to make wholesale changes, so tweaking with a small budget, should be far easier mate..

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03 Jun 2013 09:07:12
Thanks for your comments but come on ed surely not?
Young and enthusiastic, there's plenty of those out there
Plays good football. ditto
Run on a tight budget. no he can't Wigan are now in Championship!
He nice and well respected, well he will be- he hasn't done anything to ruffle up any other teams!
Oh well nice guy, with a nice Chairman and a nice club, same old, same old.
10 more years of niceness and bugger all in trophy room?
Last post on Martinez, have no option but to accept what I believe and thousands like me believe, Nil Satis? {Ed025's Note - you may be pleasantly surprised mushy..

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What do u want redknapp mark hughes steve clarke. or even think about the joke of a foreign manager with no prem exp or stubbs weir neville dunc etc etc. with no exp as boss at all. so please wake up smell the coffee and pray that martinez does not listen to people like you and change his mind. because he is the only candidate available with the right cv.

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03 Jun 2013 09:38:07
Yes part of CV reads, Last four years escaped relegation until this year when I achieved it!

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IMO Its the old catch 22 situation with Martinez. he does prefer an attacking style of football and likes his teams to move the ball but his teams have shown defensive frailties. So the question is do you prefer a club that resembles Arsenal pre Venger or Westham pre Alladyce.

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I get what your saying but wenger and klopp both relegated teams, improved and moved on to better clubs. and look at klopp at dortmund and what wenger did to arsenal. the guy deserves a chance, and with a decent team like ours, with a few adjustments, we could become great again. only time will tell but I think its harsh to slate the bloke already, without giving him a chance for us.

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How can you say us having better players is irrelevent? By your analogy then Manchester United will finish around 6th next season because they have our old manager.

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Forgive me if I am wrong but hadn't Joe Royle just been relegated with Oldham when he became our manager? Not the biggest Martinez fan myself but think he will do a good job. Hopefully whoever comes in will be given the time he needs by us and the board. We are better than that shower who hounded Woy out! NSNO.

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03 Jun 2013 11:11:38
Very possible

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03 Jun 2013 12:43:44
mushy you posted:
Young and enthusiastic, there's plenty of those out there
Plays good football. ditto
please can you enlighten us any managers who won't cost a fortune to bring to efc who fit this bill as I struggle to find one, especially with the experience martinez has.
CraigHuytonBlue

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03 Jun 2013 01:13:24
If its Martinez everyone get behind him I certainly will be he will be the best little Spaniard we know and with one or two additions we can challenge the top four, good luck Roberto look forward to your first press conference tomorrow!

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We are Everton and if it is Martinez we will get right behind him and turn him into the best little spaniard we have ever known. Exciting times ahead. COYB!! (Wavertree Blue).

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03 Jun 2013 08:11:24
We can challenge for top 4?
I'm sure the sky is a wonderful purply blue colour on your planet mate!
Challenge to escape relegation is his track record {Ed025's Note - nice to see your so positive mushy.. :(

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Agree get behind Martinez. seems to have bags of integrity, his teams play the right way, done his apprenticeship with Wigan and Swansea with success. agreed Wigan relegation is a blot, let's be honest it was always gona happen.

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I don't agree with mushy (no change there) I think with martinez we can really push on

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Whoever our new manager will be, good luck to him, 100% behind him/them, can't take much more now. come on bill sort it todayyyyyyy
bluejohn

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If it is to be Martinez then give him a chance despite what happened with Wigan.
I mean Mike Walker took Norwhich to the semi's of the CL one season and us to a last day of the season relegation battle the next.
Domo

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I agree! If it is Matinez then let's get behind him. The relegation experience will be a massive learning curve for him. It was for Wenger who was relegated as a manager of Nancy and he turned out ok!

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Dont harp on about wigan getting relegated. who knows what would have happened if they did not have the fa cup for distraction. I beleive if he is our man and has someone like wier as number 2 our defence will be ok. and who knows we may score more than 2 in a game more regular.

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Mushy, he wasn't my first choice, but we have to get behind him. I'm sure, however, he'll hear your boo's loud and clear. (Wavertree Blue)

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It seems like Mushy is the new mike :| PKBLUE

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