Everton Banter Archive February 03 2019

03 Feb 2019 19:39:02
We need to look down the league's for new front men, Pukki at Norwich, Hylton at Luton and Shankland up in Scotland, these guys are scoring now, not two years ago, but we will just end up with a 40 million bench warmer from another club, Benetez or McInnes would be my liken for a new Manager.

03 Feb 2019 22:55:07
Yes and Geordies no there strikers.

04 Feb 2019 05:44:08
I don't even think there's one good shout out from the op. Pukki is hardly beef n prolific. Haven't heard of other two players. Benitez, not for me. Mcinnes could be OK but not for us atm. Want a striker go get werner or belotti. Play in big leagues and score. Imagine us putting our hopes on a Luton Town striker. Beggars belief.

04 Feb 2019 07:23:45
Surely that's a wind up that am all for getting the next vardy but pukki?

04 Feb 2019 13:58:01
Laugh all but Pukki has 19 goals this season, Shankland 27, ok not hlyton at luton but Collins at Luton 18 goals, and Tosun at Everton?

04 Feb 2019 16:02:56
I see what your getting at but there's better out there. We need a fast, powerful goal getter. Someone like Josef martinez from Atalanta utd. He gets goals.

03 Feb 2019 18:00:05
At least Leicester lost today against Man U so they stay behind us, incidently how many how many more points do we need to be sure of staying up.

{Ed025's Note - 7..

03 Feb 2019 18:09:42
And how many do you think we will get Ed, I think we can get 11points but I've been wrong before.

{Ed025's Note - im not even going to guess penysarn...but one thing i think we will get...is a pasting on wednesday mate..

03 Feb 2019 18:10:05
Cheers Ed.

03 Feb 2019 18:29:57
We can win our next 2 home games Ed, there's 6 points mate.

{Ed025's Note - hmmmm. we will be lucky to get none the way we are playing mate..

03 Feb 2019 18:35:21
Blimey I have to say it Ed025 but after yesterday, realisticly I can't see us beating any of em at the mo mate.

{Ed025's Note - i wish i could argue with you mate..

03 Feb 2019 18:59:19
Have you seen our home games we got left Ed, 5 out of the top 6 mate happy days.

{Ed025's Note - just what we need mate...not..

03 Feb 2019 19:34:15
Always want us to win and don't care if it is ugly or pretty pretty. Even with all my criticism, I was certain we would get into the 50 point mark. Now as I have earlier I am being serious that after the Hull game, I struggle to see any upcoming games where in the past I would be certain of a win. Never felt that under Martinez, never felt that under Koeman. It is not a nice feeling. Just been out for a nice dinner with swimbo, so feel a little better, waiting for the wine to cool LOL.

03 Feb 2019 22:56:56
We will be lucky to get 45 points at this rate.

04 Feb 2019 20:36:25
Obviously I meant Huddersfield not Hull, or did I have a read on our future fixtures LOL.

03 Feb 2019 14:32:55
Reading all the posts below on who would be a good choice for us if we did change our manager again at Everton, at the end of the day there will be no one manager who everyone on here would be happy with, not all wanted Marco or Koeman and I won't even mention the other one let alone Martinez or Moyes, so as a young manager Ole at Man U is doing a great job so why not Arteta with Tim backing him to take over.

03 Feb 2019 15:05:02
Don't believe the majority wanted Silva, believe the majority wanted Koeman. I was wrong on Koeman but based my call on him okay at Southampton. There really is no logical reason why Silva was selected or why he was pursued. To answer GB though, Benitez, Hughton because of Premiership experience, I like Howe but don't think he would move north of Watford.

03 Feb 2019 15:17:34
Ole will have the old man behind him mate. What we need is a proven winner, not old boys who the fans love but the players don't respect.

03 Feb 2019 15:35:21
Change the manger, change the date, change some players. One common denominator. Same problems. Now we are two years and two managers on, do you think that perhaps we were a bit rash in sacking Koeman? I blame the board for not replacing Lukaku not RK.

03 Feb 2019 15:43:13
That's the problem now mate there are too many if's and but's.

03 Feb 2019 15:55:18
Nick, same process we could say the same about Martinez but we only finished 11th. With Koeman we were dropping and didn't look recoverable. I maintain with our current it is a different siuation, for all the reasons previously given. Pleased that some of you are perhaps seeing what has been obvious. Still if we all thought the same we would be a short lived species.

03 Feb 2019 15:55:46
Jose mourinho.

{Ed025's Note - i would sooner have fat sam than him shakey..

03 Feb 2019 17:21:54
The Media now saying Moyes Ed 025 hmmmm.

{Ed025's Note - i bloody hope not GB..

03 Feb 2019 17:34:19
Nor do I mate, will always be a traitor in my eyes.

03 Feb 2019 18:57:28
I still back Silva but results speak and if things don’t change very soon I would say Moyes to stabilise. If he can take us further I don’t know. Benitez maybe could take us to the next level. Howe has done fantastic but feel it will be risky and not sure if we can be risky with the next appointment.

03 Feb 2019 19:23:10
See where you are going there mate, but think any would be a chance.

03 Feb 2019 19:37:24
I call that blind loyalty Mr Singing, I don't understand it, but Kudos and respect to you.

03 Feb 2019 23:01:36
Moyes was never a traitor, ok handled it badly but he gave us ten good years of mostly over achievement.
You could not blame him for going as you could not blame Rooney years before, or Arteta etc. Top players and managers have ambition and due to lack of finance we we could not fullfill this at the time.

03 Feb 2019 14:05:00
Seems to me that the last few managers we have had have all had one thing in common. There stubbornness to continually play players who are clearly out of form. We have this now with Siggy, the guy clearly is not on the pace right now and looks a shadow of the player we know he can be. Ultimately this results in them losing their job, and the player stays on.
Why not give Bernard a go in that position, at least he would bring some energy into the side. Or play McCarthy as a second holding player and give Gomes licence to roam in midfield. It worked with Reid, Bracewell and Sheedy after all.
Guess what I'm saying is try something different. Because what is being done is clearly not working.

03 Feb 2019 16:03:17
Walcott being a case in this point WB. Every single blue I speak to says the same thing and can see where it is not working with him playing.

03 Feb 2019 10:12:29
For the first time yesterday I started to have doubts over Silva. It was lacklustre and you can tell a lot about players body language we had 5mins to go plus 7mins stoppage time at 3-1 nobody believed we could get back into the game. That is one of the most worrying things for me if the players don’t believe it had a feeling that if we played for another 20 mins we wouldn’t score. I still don’t agree with the criticism of zonal marking and agree with Marco that players need to man up and take responsibility whether it’s zonal or man to man. Richarlison let the opposition get in front of him in his zone. I am repeating myself but earlier on in the season we defended zonally and yes we had a few wobbles with it but we also played well with it too and got results. When teams concede from set pieces and it’s man to man no body points at the faults of this and do think it’s an easy to say this and maybe a bit old school. I don’t see a problem if the manager comes out to be honest and criticise the players collectively. If he single out a player then that would be wrong and only be said in the dressing room.
Wolves played fluid football and every time they attacked with intent.
I seen Sigurdson receiving the ball with his back to goal and give it straight back to the player who gave it him when he had time and space to turn, exactly what used to frustrate me with Barkley. Possession is great but it needs to be more positive ie Gomes driving forward for the goal.
I see Ed suggested resting Gomes I disagree sorry Ed he was one of the few who was brave enough to want the ball and won’t just get rid if it once he receives it.
I also don’t agree that the players aren’t good enough. All the players who started yesterday are good enough to be in a top 6 team except Tosun ( not convinced but also not fair putting him into a team playing with no confidence) . Walcott is well below the standard when he first arrived, surely Lookman starts ahead of him especially at home when there isn’t as much space. Lookman can beat a man, Walcott away from home playing counter attack maybe if he bucks his ideas up.
Baines was clearly not ready to play but admire his willingness to play through injury.
The conundrum is How does Marco get these players to perform with the confidence they have previously do you give them a kick up the arse or persevere and hopefully things will turn around and quality will shine through?

03 Feb 2019 13:23:10
At home I'd go back to a 442 with as it seems any of the other formations aren't working. We don't cause anyone any problems with one striker on the pitch. So get two in from the start and try to make the opposition defence as uncomfortable as possible.

03 Feb 2019 08:27:25
If we sack Silva, could we not get arteta as manager with Cahill and dunc as assistants?
Arteta got tactical knowledge working with pep and Tim and dunc will show passion and fight.

{Ed025's Note - thats a massive gamble geoff..

03 Feb 2019 09:10:26
I know Silva is not doing well but getting in Arteta (who has never actually managed a team) along with Cahill (also no management experience) and Dunc (part of the backroom staff of 3/ 4 previous failed managers) is not going to solve problems. It’s the same thing Monaco tried to do by bringing in Henry because he “got the club”. Look how well that worked out for them.

03 Feb 2019 09:36:54
And the prize for understatement of this HYS goes to CToffee 'I know Silva is not doing well'.

03 Feb 2019 09:39:12
IF silva is sacked and it is a big if I would still love Marcel gallardo from river plate I no he has no Premier league experience but he has a great knowledge of South American football which I think would work great with brands he also has a winning mentality and you can't say he couldn't cope with the pressure at Everton haha imagine a aging river plate in finals against boca now that's pressure, he is a born winner.

03 Feb 2019 10:32:04
Good shout johny. Could try bielsa from Leeds. Done a good job there and someone we have looked at before apparently. I don't think Silva will be sacked and we need to give managers time but something got to give. Also dunc has been consistently there through last few managers. Is he one of the problems? I just don't know the solution.

03 Feb 2019 10:42:35
Get cahill or Arteta with a solid second man like Alan Irvine.

03 Feb 2019 11:12:00
I like the idea of Arteta and yes a bit of a gamble as any appointment is. Moshiri gambled when he appointed a man who has a record with all teams of letting in goals from free kicks and after a good start doing badly with every club. Now that was a 100/ 1 gamble on this guy Silva ever succeeding I reckon.

03 Feb 2019 12:06:28
Someone is gunna gamble on gallardo and get a very very good manager soon.

03 Feb 2019 13:02:55
We got dunc now with no passion? the silent man.

03 Feb 2019 07:34:29
I was watching the France Wales rugby on Friday. Wales (who are an excellent team) were rank awful in the first half and you could see on their faces that they needed their halftime inspiration (albeit a complete bollocking) from the coaching staff. Which evidently worked because they came out, with a plan and won the match.

My point is this. Players need coaching even during the game. So half time team talk when you are having a bad time of it is priceless. So what was said to our players half time yesterday? Because they came out worse! And didn't get any better. Our coaching staff failed to inspire and that for me is the most damning indictment for the manager. If he wants to save his job then he needs to make changes to his back room staff and find some motivators. Perhaps a simple "Dunc, the floor is yours" at halftime might help.