Everton Banter Archive August 03 2015

03 Aug 2015 22:37:49
Understandably last season the atmosphere in Goodson wasn't at its usual levels imo.

To me it seemed with the way we where playing we waited for us to make a chance before reacting.
And overall the majority of games had long spells of silence which just isn't Goodison

Honestly I know it's cliche but we really are the 12th Man, when Goodison is bouncing it gives players that extra yard and we look like we can challenge anyone.

So c'mon on Saturday for those of us who are going let's create the perfect atmosphere for a good start,
Don't just sit there when a game is scrappy and moan let's get the place rocking and give the players that extra motivation.

For us to do well this season we have to make Goodison the fortress it once was and that starts with us

Coyb

{Ed025's Note - thats great sentiment sir loin and i applaud it, but to be fair to the supporters its a two way street mate, its hard to applaud sloppiness and lack of application like what was on offer last season..

04 Aug 2015 07:11:02
It's not the sloppiness Ed. It is the fact we retain possession for big periods in and around our own penalty area. The when we finally decide to go forwards, the opposition has organised their defence making it impossible for us to break them down. The crowd has lost patience by then! You can hear it going more and more quiet when you understand the logistics and reasoning behind it.

{Ed025's Note - fair point degsy, we do overdo the possession and it borders on tedium at times mate, 2 seasons ago the possession seemed to have a purpose and we used it well imo, but it seems to have gone wrong somewhere and has got to the point where it frustrates the hell out of the crowd..

04 Aug 2015 08:10:47
Hard to create an atmosphere when as soon as you start an attack the ball gets played back to the centre back. If a team is counter attacking or playing fast football it is easy to get excited wheras our possession is nowhere near as insisive as barca who play the same way. I think the lack of go-forward makes it hard to create an atmosphere however the booing of our own players is never going to benefit.

04 Aug 2015 09:30:09
I mirror degsys comments completely you can't applaud what we had to endure last season, you have to give to recieve and last year we were given little to applaud, when we kicked it up a gear the crowd were there in the case of the Kiev game, but 87 passes round our box for Howard to aimlessly launch it isn't going to excite no one and judging by pre season and RM in ability to be flexible added to that we will have the same first team I wouldn't be expecting fireworks next year either

03 Aug 2015 20:17:58
Biggest problem we have at Everton is even if we have loads of dosh, why would any player want to come to us, when we show no ambitions or desire to move the club forward. Stagnant is the word i'd use, why go to a club like that?

03 Aug 2015 21:23:14
Because of us, the fans, eternally positive as we are.

{Ed025's Note - your right there ste..

03 Aug 2015 23:02:53
Apologies if it sounds negative, but as I assume you are a lot younger than me, I remember when Everton was ahead of everyone, 1st to do anything, the ones who broke transfer records, the team to want to play for, a team that played beautiful football as the song goes. Ateam that won Cups n Championships. Sadly we are now a team to survive, hope for Europe, though it causes havoc, maybe a

03 Aug 2015 23:09:04
Ooops didn't finish there, win a coca cola or whatever they want to call it; we never get past the 2nd round. A team always with potential, great young players, on a 5 year plan. Its getting tedious now. Change is needed, a different way. Instead of us waiting on a 5 yr plan with potential players, we should go out n buy a team to try n win things now, players with winning mentality whatever their age, experienced in big games. If it doesn't work then you do the sell to buy the next season. It stops this constant waiting for somat to happen, this way each season you can pin your hopes on a known quantity not an unknown(potential) quantity.
Rant over .

04 Aug 2015 00:28:13
Even if we had loads of dosh why would a player want to play for us? Think you just answered your own question mate.
Do you really think the majority of players at Chelsea would be there if it wasn't for the owners wad.
Players go where the money is, very few do it for the badge.

04 Aug 2015 12:18:40
And I think Leeds tried that. How are they these days. You probably are older than me Howie, my first Goodison memories are of Sheedy and co. but we have to be realistic, our board have millions, not the billions required to compete with the Abramovich's of this world and to be quite honest I'm happy with that. Whatever we achieve we earn and people respect that. Do you respect Chelsea or Citeh?
Quote of the day. "The secret to happiness is low expectations". See you all on Saturday! COYB

04 Aug 2015 20:31:02
Sad to hear you say what you say but I guess you are the new Evertonian. Because I've lived with the Blues as a Big successful, first in everything team (go round the ground and look at the history pics) my expectations of our once great club are higher than yours.

03 Aug 2015 19:37:35
Watched us yesterday and have absolutely zero belief going into new season with Kone up front! No width once Mirellas went off either! Hate the way Bobby persists in playing four centre mids! What gets me is first season he played outright wingers and we looked a threat at all times, he then changed the system to a load of centre mids / number 10's and we were garbage so why persist!?!?

03 Aug 2015 21:21:14
Haven't all our wingers got hamstring problems? Perhaps the problem is not tactical but medical. Didn't Moyes sack our old phisio because of that problem, doesn't seem to have helped.

03 Aug 2015 22:22:00
I also wonder big time if he knows his best players and more importantly their best positions? He seems to chop and change all the time. Poor Barkley has played just about every position . as has Naismith. I know Moyes used to play the odd person out of position, but this guy rotates players and positions every game. Tactical genius or buffoon?

{Ed025's Note - the latter for me degsy..

03 Aug 2015 19:03:55
If a club of he stature of inter want rid of a player why are we Evertonians desperate for him? This Shaquri sounds like a Andy Van De where is the Pub Mater all over again.
As for the lad from Celtic I think if Southampton get him for 8 we are in serious financial trouble as he is the perfect 3rd choice CB been playing in Scotland so would have to earn his place in the team and couldn't argue.
The striker situation is seriously dire, at least at CB we have youngsters pushing.
We need a statement signing from the club because even if we beat Watford when results turn Goodison will be toxic this season unless some big signings or a serious statement verbally to the fans is made.
Someone in digital media within the club must read pages like this. If you do then read this and read it clear. There will be serious repercussions potentially riots if we get in trouble. If you don't trust Bobby tell us that. If you want to save until January tell us that. If we are going to sign players and want patience tell us that. Tell us something because seriously this current media tactic is awful. Stop putting stuff on Facebook as it just gets hundreds of negative responses, same on twitter. The tiny snippets of regurgated rubbish you post is damming to the club.
On a positive Duncs speach was awesome. How blue is he? What a hero.

03 Aug 2015 23:48:04
After watchin that speech I honestly can't wait to see him as our manager one day! (Sooner rather than later)

04 Aug 2015 18:17:00
Svenny as much as I believe everything in your post I just hope it never gets to that point. If we get beat first game there will be lots of angry Evertonians baying for blood. And Martinez will be the first to feel the wrath quickly followed by Bill Kenwright and the Board. And if I'm brutually honest the club only have themselves to blame for not trying to push on. Our first team squad is almost identical to the squad 2 seasons ago. Distin gone and Cleverly in are the only real changes. And we have now bought the 3 loanees from 2 seasons ago. Maybe we will all eat our words and we'll sign 2-3 decent players that can go straight into first team within the next few weeks.

03 Aug 2015 15:18:04
I don't know everyone is panicking over players, loads of time left yet

{Ed025's Note - i see what you mean KR....oh no i dont, the season starts on saturday mate!..

03 Aug 2015 13:23:00
Lamur mate, for me the main problem is not comparing the players from previous eras, but
the attitude of the players & team.
We seem to have lost our fight, which was always a big part of Everton team.
The players we have now seem to be happy to pick up their money week after week, with little concern for how they play.
Say what you like about Rooney, but he never stops trying, give me a team like him & big Dunk every week.
Tactics are also a big problem (or lack of them)
This season will be a "water shed" for our great club, sink or swim?
I can hear the voices now.
we're doomed! we're all doomed! Captain kenwright.

03 Aug 2015 11:21:19
Just reading everyone's posts today and agree with the vast majority.Everyone is depressed as it doesn't look like we are making any signings!! Kone should be sacked as useless.What does RM see in him?So obvious that we need a playmaker that can make things happen.Somebody that Barkley can learn from? Come on Everton, let the loyal fans know what's going on, we need answers.Everton were the richest club in the 70's.Sadly not now, despite having a board of directors that are worth millions? Why won't they invest?

03 Aug 2015 08:41:23
it is bad that so many posters on here have the same flat feeling I have and agreed this is the worse build up in years. What gets to me is that Evertonians are the best and most loyal fans any club could wish for, yet they are given no hope from the club or manager in respect to the seasons business, I heard an interview today with two premier managers openly talking about the pursuit of new recruits, so their fans must be on a high hearing this news. So why does the club and manager seeming mug off the fans by saying nothing? If they have targets and I'm sure they do then give us some hope not necessarily naming targets but even admitting they are working on them. But when RM comes out and says he does not need a striker and we suffer watching the like of Kone then he is absolutely disrespecting these great fans!
So come on Everton what's really going on?

{Ed025's Note - i could not agree more wakka, are the club happy with what we have? i bloody hope not, are we looking at players?..do we have the money to spend?, FFS everton come out and give us supporters a bit of info instead of treating us like fools!, as you say wakka we dont need names or even prices mate, just a bit of hope..come on everton..show us some respect..

03 Aug 2015 11:20:26
Martinez has openly stated he is looking for a striker, a number 10 and a CB. That is all we need to know. Though he did say to get the right character and player may take the full window

03 Aug 2015 12:33:21
All clubs should and do constantly monitor potential targets, he has not admitted that these are the areas he wants cover in until the last couple of days, last week he stated he wasn't after a striker he was happy with what he has, after a few abject performances from Kone he has changed his mind there. The CB was always a priority since Distin and alcarez left.
Manure and the RS have moved early and quickly to bolster the ranks as have Newcastle and stoke. It leads many fans to believe he has no real plan in place and this is a reaction to poor performances highlighting weak areas as opposed to proactive transfer dealings.

03 Aug 2015 13:21:40
If Martinez says he is looking for a Striker, CB and No10 , what's taking him so long to get one. There are probably 40,000 Evertonians out there who have said this all last season. So what's his excuse.
Everton will not move forward under his management.

I agree with another poster, that Gary Monk may be worth a try but think his loyalty will be to Swansea. Mark Hughes another possible target but would probably expect more support from the board than at present.