Everton Banter Archive January 31 2018

31 Jan 2018 23:25:16
What's everyone thinking about Tosun being dropped and Niasse being brought in? I'm hearing tosun has been poor in training, I hope this isn't true the guy looks like he has potential, maybe it's kust Everton killed Sandro and looking more and more likely killing klaasen, and lookman out on loan? What's everyone's opinions?

01 Feb 2018 00:01:07
Can't see it to be fair. He's still new to the league, maybe just thought it'd be a battling game tonight which, at this stage of Tosun career, would be more suited to Niasse game at the moment. 2 weeks at a club doesn't usually make you a bad player. But, at the moment, with most Everton fans it seems, if we signed Messi and he didn't score a hat trick every 45 minutes, there would be a story or we've been ripped off etc. The lad just needs some bedding in time. All I've heard about him so far is 'He's ruined his career now signing for us" as he is destined for much bigger things.

31 Jan 2018 22:45:08
I'm keeping this short. Seamus Coleman is absolutely frickin awesome.

His first senior game since his injury and on 93 minutes he runs from our penalty area to theirs. He's like the terminator.

He scared the sh*t out them tonight. Also, how good does his partnership look with Walcott?

Can't knock anyone tonight. I know some will want to but they worked hard all of them. That's all I ask for.

COYB.

01 Feb 2018 09:52:46
Best post I have ever read from you mate. Yes he was and is awesome!

01 Feb 2018 11:52:57
Cheers degsy. I respect that mate. Loved yours above as well. I told you we agree more than dont😁😉.

31 Jan 2018 22:42:29
Managala will be an excellent signing. Hopefully true with the 15m tag if we want to keep him. That's going to be a steal. He puts everything into the game and he's a big strong lad. I think he can be a bit dodgy when dribbling out of the back 4 though. A very positive signing.

31 Jan 2018 23:19:25
Think we have nothing to lose on this. No loan fee, just covering his wages. Not a bad player, but is partial to a mistake or 2. Different manager, different style maybe her rid of these. Good signing in my opinion. Would like to see a Mangala, Keane partnership.

31 Jan 2018 22:30:20
Really pleased with the win tonight, showed great heart through pressing and the confidence seemed to allow us to play with more style. Made it difficult in the end but that's the Everton way. Coleman gueye and Walcott were mustard tonight. Onwards and upwards blues no idea why Lookmans gone though.

31 Jan 2018 22:00:28
The result was the most important thing tonight. Even though we are closer to 7th than we are relegation I still find myself looking down rather than up.
I was feeling positive earlier today Mangala in would give us better balance.
Thinking that Garbutt would play.
Width of Walcott and Bolasie and Lookman as a replacement for either.
I am shaking my head now thinking why play players out of position when we have players there.
I understand Martina playing as Baines injured and there must be something we don’t know about Garbutt!

31 Jan 2018 22:11:03
Watched garbutt few times for u23 doesn't look like the answer but at least he's left footed.

31 Jan 2018 22:18:54
It is quite baffling Robbie. I really get the Bolasie, Walcott thing, even more so when our Manager (who by the way is not the neanderthal, many would have you believe, he is the exact opposite, very methodical) , says on record Rooney and Siguurdson cannot play together.

31 Jan 2018 22:21:00
Garbutt not registered until 1st Feb.

31 Jan 2018 21:47:56
A great performance from Walcott, fantastic to see Coleman marauding down the right wing again and a really valuable 3 points against a good team. What a welcome change to recent performances that was!

What a weird game to watch though. We were awful, then fantastic, then awful then pretty good. I think that inconsistency in the match shows just how mentally fragile this squad is at the moment. I think many of our problems this year have been caused by the poor mental toughness of the squad.

It was nerve wracking to watch at times but hopefully the fact that we had to hang on and did it effectively after that dodgy 5-10 mins after the penalty will be a boost to the confidence of the players.

If the mental strength and confidence can be improved on in the coming games there is plenty of quality in the squad and I think we will be able to win some games.

31 Jan 2018 22:08:32
You need certainty and consistency and may I say what a difference a couple of tackles can make add to that we looked far more mobile. I still don't rate the bloke, but Martina put a couple of good tackles and intercepts tonight although I have yet to see the replays later tonight (old age, alcohol and seat position not the best LOL) . Question, always been an advocate of don't change a winning Team, thought that playing and managing. Do we stick with that side or use Niasse as super sub.

{Ed025's Note - i imagine mangala will com in for jags and hope tom gets a rest myself DFS..

31 Jan 2018 22:08:39
Coleman and Wallcot just make us so much stronger on the right. Good summary of how we were. I like that.

31 Jan 2018 22:28:10
Nobody has doubted the quality and everyone expected a few tweaks here and there, what we got was a new owner (with dosh) arriving with a new manager whose CV did not stand up to scrutiny and a good Scout appointed way above his pay grade, resulting in a massive influx of players in some cases tripling up for one position. We are now desperately trying to repair the result.

31 Jan 2018 21:47:08
Theo was great and Seamus was amazing but what the F Rooney was thinking is beyond me, idiot. Could have and should have been 4-0 up before half time but thankfully the lads held on for a much needed 3 points. 😀😀.

{Ed025's Note - spot on that BigH..

31 Jan 2018 22:13:12
As for Rooney, come on lads, not the brightest.

31 Jan 2018 20:58:57
Just seen Riquelme at half time.

31 Jan 2018 21:26:14
Looks overweight. Maybe next window.

31 Jan 2018 20:35:04
Well, after a nervous 20mins when Leicester had their heads up we aren't looking too shabby are we. Long way to go but a 2 goal cushion is nice. Keep It Up COYB!

31 Jan 2018 20:55:43
Welcome back to football Theo Walcott!

31 Jan 2018 19:44:26
Lookman gone on loan to RB Leipzig. Give me strength, is he ever going to get to play for us?!

31 Jan 2018 20:23:28
What els did you expect from SAM.

31 Jan 2018 21:52:30
I don't understand what the problem is, he's not ready, it's not just Sam who didn't play him, when he has played most of the time he's a 2 minute wonder then none exsistant, give him some football and hope he comes back with something to prove.

31 Jan 2018 19:13:01
Liking the look of the lineup. Gutted I'm not going the match to welcome Seamus back but full of flu so tickets gone to waste. Come on blues let's hope Coleman's return is enough to give us all a lift!

31 Jan 2018 18:40:02
Hi Ed 025 what do you think of Big Sams window so far mate, with us signing Tosun, Walcott and now Mangala seems he has improved our squad no end, but no doubt there will be the odd one who does not agree, but for me Sam has done really well.

{Ed025's Note - the window has been fine GB, we have some very decent players at the club now and with seamus back the ingredients for decent football and safety are certainly there, but the head chef needs to mould them into a team quick smart and give the supporters something to be proud of, im not sure sam is the man to do that but i will give him a little more time to prove me wrong, i have made excuses for him up to now as i want him to do well but the patience of the faithful will only last so long mate, but heres to a bright future an a new beginning and the hope that we will improve and play some entertaining stuff, if not the gloves will be off and i fear my patience will finally snap, lets hope not though as we all love the club and only want the best for our beloved club...NSNO..

31 Jan 2018 19:01:50
Agree Ed but we are Everton and boy do we know how to wait mate, lol.

31 Jan 2018 19:54:29
Mines gone loaning out lookman and playing Rooney and gylfi together after saying the can’t has tipped me over the edge.

31 Jan 2018 20:38:15
Cant they watch the game.

31 Jan 2018 18:49:28
Great to see Coleman back and no schneiderlin but Martina still lb and looks like siggy back to left but niasse up top. Mr unpredictable.

31 Jan 2018 19:28:09
Niasse does seem to have the thing that most strikers look for though. Right place right time.

31 Jan 2018 20:50:48
I do admire him, but he has got anvils instead of feet.

31 Jan 2018 15:41:48
Davy wanting to stay and fight firms up my feelings of wanting to see him given another chance. Eds said there's a player there, he was loved by the Ajax fans and played really well in the Europa last year. The lads got bottle and I feel a run of games for it to gain confidence would show us a different player. He can't offer any less than Schneiderlin does so give him a chance Sam lad.

31 Jan 2018 16:12:51
Put him in a couple u23 games get him used to English style (look what good it done niasse before I get slated for saying its not the same level, of course not same level but similar style) then bring him back into the fold.

31 Jan 2018 17:20:28
Agree with you both there. I Just find it ridiculous that him and Sandro (to my knowledge) hadn't already been playing in the U23s if they weren't making matchday squad so often. Counter productive and makes no sense.

{Ed025's Note - and me oll, how are they supposed to get used to playing in english conditions?..

31 Jan 2018 13:34:25
Hey Rafa. How's the signings going la? Is that pesky "small club" smashing you all over the place? Good luck with the rest of the season.

31 Jan 2018 12:45:44
Hi Ed 025 if we do manage to get Mangala from City mate, do you think he will be a good addition to the team, i personally he will be a good addition and can't understand all the moans about him b4 he even walks in the door, for heavens sake we have been crying out for help at the back, especially with the age of some of our backs and at over 6ft he would also be good for set pieces in the box, let's at least give the guy a chance, City must have seen something in him to splash out £34 mill, cheers.

{Ed025's Note - well he cant be any worse than whats there now GB, he can play as a LB or CH so its a no brainer for me mate..

31 Jan 2018 13:36:50
Cheers Ed my feelings exactly mate, i know its opinions but some posters need to get real and support the team and stop this toxic stuff.

31 Jan 2018 14:03:11
Guernsey I will support the team but reg mangala he hasn't played well since moving to England and us fans are allowed to say how we feel I hope he proves me wrong and if he signed he will have my total support but he isn't what I expected to go for today as I think we are crying out for a box to box mid someone who can pick the ball up and run and that's Nzonzi for me but as each minute ticks down I'm realising that's not going to happen so we have to pray we stay up and regroup in the summer.

31 Jan 2018 14:33:58
Hi mate agree with you but I just think we need to let these recruits in the door before the slagging off starts, let's give them a bit of time that's all I ask cheers.

31 Jan 2018 15:23:18
Its a tough one guys. Mo salah was useless the last time he played in the prem but look at him now.
Think we need to give him a chance and support the lad.

31 Jan 2018 15:40:24
He is a good solid defender which is what we need right now. If he can play left back then it is a no brainer as he must be better than Martinez.

31 Jan 2018 18:29:51
He is that mate just what we need.

31 Jan 2018 12:26:01
I take it N'Zonzi isn't of interest. i'd rather have him surging forward with the ball than go all out for another top 6 team player who has been frozen out.

{Ed002's Note - Yes there has been interest.}

31 Jan 2018 12:42:47
Is a move for him likely before deadline or are we trying to get Mangala loan sorted first. Cheers for any info.

{Ed002's Note - Why complicate matters?}

31 Jan 2018 12:51:21
Really Dentielad. Considering our luck with european imports this season i would prefer the latter.

31 Jan 2018 13:02:27
Ed are Everton interested in ibrahim Amadou. Rumoured to be a third premier league club interested?

{Ed002's Note - No, it is not Everton.}

31 Jan 2018 13:35:17
With all the midfielders leaving all of a sudden, I'd be shocked if we don't.

31 Jan 2018 13:48:58
Thanks Ed.

31 Jan 2018 11:17:41
Wouldn't it just be great if we just got behind the team of players we have or going to have instead of saying how bad they are when they've only played a couple of games or not even played yet we are everton not some football super power that's going to sign the world's best players does my head in no wonder there low on confidence. Rant over.

31 Jan 2018 11:37:43
Super-roo take it you haven't watched them this season then! For a start I have an 11 year old Grandson who has more positional sense and timing than Martina, I am serious. Schneiderlin on form is a class act but to keep picking him in his current form is detrimental to the team, his confidence and ego. He doesn't even show commitment at the mo.

31 Jan 2018 12:14:48
I've been and watched every game this season weather its at goodison or at home on TV schneiderlin will come good I think we all have the same opinion on Martina but doesn't look like we will be getting a lb so what can we do just think if we show a bit of confidence in what we have might get them going a bit for use instead of getting on there case and making there heads drop.

31 Jan 2018 09:38:21
Get a real feeling this is going to be a quiet day, it appears other than Mangala in on loan most of the other business will be players going out on loan.
Let's not forget it's an important match tonight!

31 Jan 2018 10:15:54
Worse than Williams. Just what does Mr Walsh do?

31 Jan 2018 11:51:02
left footed and played well for Valencia last year, don't see the issue with him coming in can hopefully cement a place on the left side in the centre making us have a consistent back four with two left footed players and two right footed players (balance)

31 Jan 2018 13:19:04
Wblue you are of course correct. I was going to correct my original comment but you did it for me chrs.

31 Jan 2018 13:11:36
Look we all agree a new DOF is really the way forward. But just stating over and over "what's Walsh for? " Is getting a bit tedious to the rest of us that have to read this drivvle.

You can't even be sure who he has or hasn't signed for us. I'm sure his skills are and always were in delivering top transfer targets.

Wait. to the finish line to judge if spending over £50 mil in this window is satisfactory.

31 Jan 2018 09:00:53
With the news that two of last summer’s allegedly exciting acquisitions now going out on loan should the club complete the hat trick and send Steve Walsh somewhere so he can learn the job?

31 Jan 2018 11:57:04
To be honest we got rid of keoman, now I think Walsh should go as well, all of the players aparts from pickford haven't done well at all, now he has to take some of the blame, the board need to come out and say they made a big mistake and fire him.

31 Jan 2018 08:24:22
after watching Every Everton game this season it's clear we need a box to box midfielder someone who can pick the ball up and run at the opposition something Barkley could do the question is will we bring somebody in or will we have to keep watching these inept displays of sideways and backwards passing.

31 Jan 2018 10:20:16
Well every Manager so far rate Schbeiderlin so to answer yor question bluey79 yes.

30 Jan 2018 19:57:23
Hi Ed 025 with this deal for Klassen very near according to reports, do you reckon we will now move for new recruits, ie Nzongi.

{Ed025's Note - i cant see why not GB..

31 Jan 2018 07:29:16
linked with nzonzi and go for mangala you just can't make this up.

31 Jan 2018 07:33:03
Don't think either of these can play left back either!

31 Jan 2018 08:05:14
Mangala is a left sided cb so could see us switch to 3 at the back.

{Ed025's Note - instead of 10..

31 Jan 2018 11:20:28
Haha love it Ed, although with Schneids and Martina its only 7 1/ 2 at the back.

31 Jan 2018 12:09:53
Haha. Funny ED😂.

31 Jan 2018 13:24:48
Mangala and Nzonzi? How did you come up with that pearl?

31 Jan 2018 06:51:16
I am beginning to worry for Tosun. Obviously the guy needs a goal but Everton aren't the easiest side to score for. I have a theory that the longer a striker plays for a new team without scoring the less likely it is that he will succeed at that club. I have 5 games in my mind as the watershed. At that point I think his morale goes and he gets edgy.

Can anyone name a striker who was bought for proper money who has gone on to succeed at a club after a dry start?

{Ed001's Note - Peter Crouch at Liverpool.}

31 Jan 2018 07:35:14
Bloody hell Glenk. He's literally just walked through the door. Let the guy settle first before the panic starts to set in.

31 Jan 2018 07:44:51
Agree BTU. Inks still wet on the form!

31 Jan 2018 09:04:39
hahahaha he's only played twice and one of them was spurs away Christ.

31 Jan 2018 13:05:03
Note: I said worried FOR him not about him. Yes it is only 2 games but so far he hasn't had even had a real chance. If he goes goalless tonight then I am afraid the doubts will start to gnaw at him. He was signed after a lot of hype as the solution to our toothlessness. I have said before I think he has been given a cross to beat. It worries me that he isn't getting a cross to finish.

31 Jan 2018 20:54:54
Looks like Allardyce was not even as patient as me.

31 Jan 2018 06:40:38
Mangala!?!?
😱😱😱😱😱.

31 Jan 2018 06:23:47
Looks like we are getting Mangala from City, could that be Keane on his way out?

31 Jan 2018 00:09:07
No LB in this window, anybody who is left footed who is half decent to get down the flank and give tosun some service, is a disgrace - should have a loan deal tied up by now - really concerning that Everton FC believe that cuco martina will do a job until end of season - we currently have worst full backs in league with a constantly rotating, unsteady and lacking n confidence CB pairing, not much of a foundation! Rocky road ahead! Loved Roberson at Hull and always hoped we would Sign him - looks like one of the first names on team sheet for the reds now had another good game Tonight - in the words of delia - Steve Walsh let's be having you!