Everton Banter Archive October 30 2017

30 Oct 2017 22:59:00
Realistically we should be looking at 2 choices. Eddie Howe would be a preference but his style may mean results are not forthcoming and it is debatable how much patience the board and the fans have but I think he is a brilliant manager. Sean Dyche would bring instant results but isn’t the sexy choice nor the big name that the board thrive to take us to future title contender status. The likes of Sam Allardyce shouldn’t even be considered they are the Calibre or manager we would have expected round the Walter Smith times and represent a distinct lack of ambition.

31 Oct 2017 09:02:37
If the club's history and motto still mean anything Allardyce should not even be considered. I like most of the other candidates mentioned they clearly all have risks and merits.
What we do need is someone who can build a project, we don't want to be looking for another manager this time next year. Yes there is an immediate need for points but we are not desperate we have a strong squad and a transfer window in 2 months time. Ancelotti sounds from his recent interviews like a man who wants that type of job.

31 Oct 2017 10:59:27
. we are desparate mate. I'm just not desperate enough to want big Sam, pardew, Moyes, rednapp or Warnock.

30 Oct 2017 21:36:47
First time poster,
Anyone fancy moyes back?

{Ed025's Note - absolutely not mick..

30 Oct 2017 22:25:17
I would have him on the list.

30 Oct 2017 22:46:25
I think anyone mentioning Moyes name should be made to write "He is a loser" 500 times or run naked round Stanley Park. He went to Man U and told them they were not good enough. Great confidence boost. He went to Sunderland and told them they were not good enough. Great confidence boost. Our players confidence is low. They don't need it ramming down their throats. They need it boosting.

30 Oct 2017 23:18:41
I get why you wouldn't want him ed and probably agree with most of them
But going solely on getting the best out of what we've got, and staying in this league then he's got to be as good a shout as some that have been mentioned we've been on a downward spiral since he left, found some great servants to the club in Cahill, Coleman, Arteta jags all on a small budget.
If he keeps us up I'll forgive him anything.

{Ed025's Note - i cant mick, not only did we play boring football and never even tried to beat the big boys (knife to a gun fight), but he also dissed the club by his comments then tried to buy our better players offering pathetic fees, forgiving is not in my nature..once a traitor always a traitor mate..

31 Oct 2017 00:12:59
I think he'd be a fantastic appointment ;) lol only messing, you'd be going from terrible to terribly bad if he was to return. Avoid like the plague.

30 Oct 2017 21:16:34
Hopefully Rhino will play our best performers against Watford. Baningime and McCarthy in the centre. Lookman and Vlasic and if the stats are correct Siggy instead of Rooney. Apart from Pickford and Keane the rest are much and much the same. Maybe put Sandro in for a bit of pace up front.

31 Oct 2017 00:53:52
Mccarthy is injured again, he has a hamstring injury.

30 Oct 2017 19:38:33
It's stating the obvious that everyone is worried sick at the moment. I'm lying pawake at night going through every line up imaginable and only Jordan Pickford is a shoe in.

I had no argument with the Koeman dismissal and no argument with Unsy getting a trial run. Unfortunately despite others Big Dunc, Joe Royle assisting the set up against Leicester was all wrong. Leicester won the league counter attacking and brought back Gray as well against a slow defence with an inexperienced right back.

Whoever the new manager may be I am anti Big Sam. Dyche has succeeded at Burnley largely with a 4411 with the 4 midfielders being defensive, something that made Keane appear rather better than he has shown so far.

I think Moshiri will favour a more glamorous manager and however bad we are there will be no shortage of mercenaries and other mangers who will want to come.

I think we need to consider very carefully our next move. We need to keep our nerve for the time being and try and find a blend that includes pace, which we do have in the squad, but is often overlooked.

30 Oct 2017 21:11:20
We have a great keeper.
Coleman to come back with Kenny as a great understudy Keane will come good and is quality. Jags can do for one season and Baines is still one of the best left backs in the league. We have good DMC Gueye, Sneideelun, McCarthy and Benni looks class.
Maybe all this turmoil lately is for a reason and Ross comes back in and is appreciated by our fans. Calvert Lewin will be great in a couple of season. Mistakes have been made in rest of positions. Was there a need for Klassen and Sigurdson? Proven that they are good players.
I would have Bolasie and Lookman on wings with Ross behind a proven striker. Davies to push Ross for starting place. Rooney is a substitute impact player.

If Dyche, Unsworth or Allardyce are appointed can they attract such a striker and have they got the calibre to take us into top four? Probably not like Moyes did maybe a bit harsh on Unsworth.
We need to go all out and get Ancelotti or Benitez to attract top players who will buy into the project.
Jamie Carragher made a comment saying Newcastle have championship and average players but have a champions league manager.
I believe we have premier ship players and a couple that can be champions league players. Imagine what a champions league manager could do with them.
Still don’t know what striker they will bring in though as there is not many out there.
Things aren’t all doom and gloom just yet. A couple of wins and a Manager in to get the team playing in a shyster where everyone knows their job the quality will shine through. Watching Newcastle and Burnley tonight makes me encouraged that we are better than this.

{Ed025's Note - but burnley beat us only a couple of weeks ago on our own midden robbie, which means we are not as good as them at this present time mate..

30 Oct 2017 21:26:14
Player to player we are and it’s obvious now that Ronald lost the dressing room. Once the right man is in. And get these players playing to the levels they can. We will beat these teams.
Champions league
Benitez
Ancelotti

Premier league
Allardyce
Dyche
Moyes
Hughton
Hughes
Mancini
Pellegrini
Ranieri
Howe
Redknapp
Pardew
Villas Boas
Pulis.

30 Oct 2017 19:11:45
Even if appointing Fat Sam as a short-term option is a good idea (which I'm pretty sure it isn't) , why on earth would he take on a project like this as a short-term deal? "Right, Sam, we're in the relegation zone. We'll employ you to get us out of it, but we don't think you're the right manager for us beyond that. So even if you keep us up, we'll be getting someone else in for next year. Course, if you don't keep us up, you'll still be getting sacked but will also have the stain of relegation on your CV. " Tempting.

Plus, people are talking like our only choices are Sam or relegation. He isn't the only manager with a track record of taking teams from the lower reaches of the league and improving them quickly. We have to think longer than 6 months ahead, however desperate it seems at the moment.

30 Oct 2017 19:21:08
Why would he be sacked if he was on a short term contract? I think seeing as he is unemployed it is in his interests to keep on managing in the top tier of football.

30 Oct 2017 19:36:05
How about give Unsy 3 or 4 more games and then if were in the bottom 3 get Sam in until the summer. If he wants the job longer term then let himnearn it. Listening to him talk to Gray yesterday I think he'd leap at the chance and if we are still in the bottom 3 in the next 4 to 5 games time then we really do need the fireman.

30 Oct 2017 22:34:18
Perhaps you could name one manager in the top five leagues over the last five years who signed a six-month contract? It doesn't happen.

31 Oct 2017 06:11:46
Gus Hiddink did it twice at Chelsea.

31 Oct 2017 06:22:59
Almost forgot so did Benitez for Chelsea.

30 Oct 2017 16:45:28
Who would everyone want our next manager to be? We look to be in real trouble right now. We are not creating any chances, and our defense will get us relegated if it continues. As much as I hate to say it, I believe our best option until the end of the season is Big Sam. He is proven to know what it takes to survive relegation battles and I believe he would sort out our defense rather quickly. It is much too risky to appoint a manager like Tuchel who has no perm experience, or Ancelotti who hasn’t had to manage a title contender in years, let alone a team in the relegation zone. We then could go in for a more attractive manager in the summer.

{Ed025's Note - a lot of supporters are saying allardyce denver....i can tell you that im not one of them, i know things are bad but now is not the time for us to appoint someone like that fat headed charletan, i cant stand the guy and we may as well all give up if its come to this, of course thats just my opinion which nobody takes any notice of anyway mate..

30 Oct 2017 17:06:32
At this moment in time we should probably let go for Dyche has done well at Burnley probably my deserves a chance to manage a bigger club and the one for me is he has perm experience my choice would be Marco Silva but it would be hard to convince him and Dyche looks like the right appointemdnt at this time if I am being honest. The job at the moment though is a career defining one fir anyone who takes over.

30 Oct 2017 17:09:30
To be fair Ed, we really are in the brown stuff, already 4 points adrift of 11/ 12th place. As someone else pointed out we need at least 30 points just to survive, can you or anyone else tell me how or where we are going to get those from. Sam is the very man we need right now not in January but now. He has never been relegated to my knowledge. Dyche is one for us once we have a few points on the board so he has something to work with.

{Ed025's Note - i can see what you are saying DM, unfortunately my soul is not for sale mate..

30 Oct 2017 17:35:23
With you 025, please please not alladyce, heard before he would consider us if approached, that comment alone says it all.

{Ed025's Note - along with moyes they are my worst nightmare KK, i know things are bad but one of them would just compound things for me mate..

30 Oct 2017 17:38:33
I agree with you about Silva and Dyche Eddy, but I don’t know if they would leave right now. Marco Silva is my first choice, but I don’t see him leaving after 3 months. I also completely understand why people wouldn’t want Sam as our manager and under normal circumstances I totally agree, but as the saying goes “desperate times call for desperate measures”. I feel the defense is most important thing to fix because I can’t see any manager getting us scoring 2 to 3 goals a game with no number 9.

30 Oct 2017 17:40:58
Sadly I think fat Sam may be our answer, the team is in such disarray now that it will probably take 2 maybe 3 seasons to fix. It just is not the matter of appointing a couple of strikers I think the problem goes far deeper. The spirit has gone out of the team.

At the same time I do not feel that fat Sam is our answer long term but one of a short term to rebuild our foundations and get us ready to have a manager capable of moving us up.

When the boat is rocking you don't just speed off into the distance and hope for the best, instead you slow down and stabilize it, and then resume the journey.

{Ed025's Note - but when that boat is the titanic you need to proceed to the best equipped life raft you can find grumpy, an old upside down table is likely to sink very quickly mate..

30 Oct 2017 17:50:14
Irrespective of him as a person, Allardyce has a proven record of rescuing clubs in this predicament, however could you not also consider his style similar to that of Joe Royle's 'Dogs of War'? ad maybe just what we need?

{Ed025's Note - but joe was an evertonian who knew the club very well wakka, sam is a mercenary who wont lose any sleep if he fails as long as his wallet can break his fall mate..

30 Oct 2017 18:13:20
Ed25, if big Sam, Moyes or redknapp came near our club, I don't think I could step foot in goodison ever again. regardless if they kept us in prem or not. I'd be done with footy in all honesty.

{Ed025's Note - i think i would not be far behind you mate..

30 Oct 2017 18:17:03
Agree with you there Wakka Big Sam would get us out the mire, but my choice would be Ancelotti for the job, i would be happy mate with anyone who could get us out of this mess and boy are we in a serious spot at the mo.

30 Oct 2017 18:22:05
Ed, it's just dawned on me how sad and desperate it is. even contemplating this. if only we could bottle this feeling and serve it to the players. just gutting.

{Ed025's Note - we have been bottling it all season mate..

30 Oct 2017 18:53:56
Mad this talking about alladyce as manager, only a few months ago we nearly signed costa, have we fallen that much in 3 months? If its devil or deep blue sea i'd go for pulis if am honest .

30 Oct 2017 19:12:27
The thing is yes Sam/ dyche shoes will sure up the ship but next season would you trust them to spend and make the step up to challenging for Europe/ cups etc? I think you're in a predicament as getting one for those managers and them finishing mid table would probably warrant a fair crack next season but expectations etc will increase and they aren't the managers to do achieve that. But would an ancelottti or more exciting manager take the role at the minute?

30 Oct 2017 19:25:30
KingKendall When did we nearly sign Costa?

30 Oct 2017 19:30:58
@ Ed025 There's a difference mate between a sinking ship and a rocking one. Still not hit the iceberg yet, we can still turn and avoid it. ( I bet some idiot gives this a thumbs down )

{Ed025's Note - they probably will mate.. :)

30 Oct 2017 19:39:28
Ed025 sadly they are just like players these days and will jump ship for a better deal, if anyone thought Koeman was here long haul you are sadly mistaken.
Big Joe is past history for us and a managers allegiance to a club does not cut the ice these days it’s all sink or swim I’m afraid!
I fully understand your reservations however.

{Ed025's Note - i just think it sends out the wrong message wakka that everton after 10 games see themselves as relegation candidates, there could be a bit of truth in it but you never show your hand in a game of poker or football mate..

30 Oct 2017 19:52:48
Reported latter part of the summer by most news outlets, gossip columns and even vlasic has stated the number 19 shirt was reserved for costa.

30 Oct 2017 21:50:27
Come on Kingkendall mate when did we start believing the press?

30 Oct 2017 15:53:33
That was not our best team yesterday and if you don't play your best team you will not win the game.

30 Oct 2017 17:13:36
The thing is though alanthomo, Unsy knows the players and put his best side out he thought could get a result. Our best Team we could put out is full of players way off form. So what else was he supposed to do. The two that are slowing our Team up now are Rooney and Williams, Rooney because he will not be disciplined and stay in the position he is put and Williams because he is slow, gives the ball away and makes crucial mistakes at crucial times. Unsy is no mug and after yesterday has seen this. I wouldn't mind betting that Rooney and Williams do not feature in our next Premiership Game.

{Ed025's Note - i would put good money on you being wrong there DM, i think with rhino rooney will be one of the first names on the team sheet, and wiliams not far behind him, thats just my view of course mate..

30 Oct 2017 18:09:12
Have to agree with you there Ed, Wayne is Evertons little pet and Rhino will always pick him, he is not the right person to be Everton manager yet, we need a new broom who will sweep clean, do the job properly and not be worried by what others think.

{Ed025's Note - that will depend on the name of that so called broom for me mate..

30 Oct 2017 18:25:44
How can we clean sweep we just bought 12 players.

30 Oct 2017 18:41:50
Just have to buy a big broom, sorry mate just don't know what we are going to do very worrying times.

{Ed025's Note - very much so GB and i dont envy the guy who has to make that decision mate..

30 Oct 2017 18:53:20
Too right mate awful times, but come what may I will still support this Great Club whatever happens, and will still be cheering them on on Thurs and Sat.

{Ed025's Note - me too mate, but im sure there will be a lot of swearing involved at my house though GB..

30 Oct 2017 19:10:49
Yeh love it Ed and me.

30 Oct 2017 19:43:57
Shows we care.

{Ed025's Note - i will be caring like a trooper irish.. :)

30 Oct 2017 14:39:44
I've read and heard many fans say they'd stop going to the matches - even give up their season ticket - if the club appointed certain named managers.
Fine - those fans are obviously entitled to their opinions and they resolutely stick to their principles, BUT for me it's not a question of a manager's reputation for a particular style of football, but rather his RECORD of turning teams around, getting results and points, and keeping a club in the division that I'm interested in for the time being.
We're dealing with an unbalanced squad of players - several ageing and others inexperienced - who are struggling in the battle for PL survival. Get that sorted out before we can realistically consider challenging for trophies or European qualification.

30 Oct 2017 16:26:26
Our back 4 should be stronger than last year and we were ok back then. Keane should have improved us in the centre, Baines is lacking in confidence to go forward. They are all lacking organisation and belief/ confidence. Its the same with midfield Schneiderlin and Gana haven't become poor players over the summer they are lacking confidence and organisation. Our number 9 is worse than it was last season but we have to find a way to deal with that.
It is down to the manager to build this team up in confidence and that starts with defining a way to play, picking a team and sticking to it until a player gets tired or injured, then you have to rotate and rest. If a player comes in or on and plays well then he has to stay in the team not be dropped the next week or not even get in the squad. That is how you P**s the players off.

30 Oct 2017 13:51:26
Does anyone think we should start shifting players like Klassen, sandro, Martina etc in January - It seems Unsworth is not going to give them much game time at all and if a new manager comes in I doubt they will either.
Need to start freeing up some funds for new players as I doubt Moshiri is going to keep pumping money in.

Just imagine ( and I say this loosely ) Moshiri decided to walk away if the club is nosediving into the championship - we owe him 80 mill already from a loan - we have no ground sorted as yet - the players are ageing and we have no players who have real great value ( as was the case with Lukaku ) . it is imperative that EFC stay in the premier league by hook or by crook as we could easily end up a portsmouth etc

History is great but it does not count for a lot these days.

30 Oct 2017 15:25:12
They have not become bad players overnight! They are adapting to the premier league which is tough and takes time. I think we all thought they would walk in and start giving top drawer performances from pre season.
I also believe they have no confidence as they have been mismanaged to this point!

30 Oct 2017 11:58:15
Would anyone take 12 goalless draws til January window opens? I would because we just don't look like scoring atm.

Maybe put Rooney up top and fine him if he comes back past half way line.

30 Oct 2017 12:31:34
It's worrying you even have to think like that Geoff. But sadly your right.

30 Oct 2017 12:50:35
Very worrying Woburn. Early August and we were thinking about challenging top 4, now we got to worry about relegation. Wtf has happened to our great club?

30 Oct 2017 12:52:28
Just as an addition. Leicester went on a positive run and couldn't stop winning when they won league. don't want us going on a negative run where we can't win a game.

30 Oct 2017 12:37:51
To be honest John, we look more likely to score than we do to keep a clean sheet.
How about trying Lookman and DCL in a 2 man attack on Thursday. we've nothing to lose really.

30 Oct 2017 14:13:11
Good idea smit. For Sunday, maybe niasse up top or just play 11 u23s. Can it be any worse than what's out there now?

30 Oct 2017 10:39:15
All the hype to start Tom Davies and Jonjoe Kenny has failed.
Tom is easily knocked off the ball, no shots on target, overruns the ball and runs around like a headless chicken.
Jonjoe has not shown he is a first team player.
They though are not the reason we are in the sh?
Jags, Rooney and Baines passed it.
Williams should never play, why can't Rhino see this.
All the new signings a waste of money except for Pickford.
Nobody will want to come to us in January.
It's a pity we will not be playing Wimbledon
In our last game of this season.
Sad times, but will always love our Everton.

30 Oct 2017 11:53:07
That is a sad post. We are in trouble for the time being but I still have hope. If we don't have that we may as well not bother playing any more games and resign to being relegated already.

We have good players. Need a manager who will get the best out of them. Don't care who it is as long as he puts us back in the right direction.

{Ed025's Note - im not resigning myself to relegation just yet NBTB but its difficult to argue with what mag is saying, where is our next win coming from?, we have played probably the weakest couple of teams in brighton and huddersfield and failed to beat either of them, its great to have faith and some are saying we are too good to go down but i can tell you now we are not, the players have no confidence and the lack of quality is in a word shocking, unsy is trying his best but you cant make a silk purse out of a sows ear mate, i really wish i could put some kind of positive spin on things as i dont want to feel like this but im finding it very hard at the moment..

30 Oct 2017 12:36:14
Exactly my sentiments as well NBTB mate, I have seen people on here saying we are too good for the drop, what a load of tripe at the mo we can't beat anybody where the points are going to come from I just don't know, for me the only cance we have is for Mr Moshifi to move quickly and appoint a new manager which I am sure he is in the process of doing right now thing are very grim let's keep our fingers x that whoever is asked WANTS to come.

30 Oct 2017 12:40:16
Don't think you can blame two youngsters for what's going wrong at the club. We have too many senior players who are just not up to it anymore. And as for the players we signed, they are not a waste of money, they have been poorly managed and are low on confidence. No point signing a midfielder and then sticking him on the wing.

30 Oct 2017 12:43:30
Ed, one of the biggest issues is that we lost a key player from defence, midfield and upfront. all of whom created opportunities AND scored goals. Coleman, Barkley and Lukaku. and none of the new arrivals look close to being replacements. the only positive in all of this is pickford. that's the only area we have truly strengthened. but as I've said previously, what strategy were the board buying into with the addition of 4central midfielders. koeman may have wanted the players but the board bought them. knowing that we had not replaced those players mentioned. regardless we have who we have and for me the first thing the team needs to do is stop losing. not winning, stop losing. and the management team need to look at each opponent with a view to nullifying the scoring and creative threats. for me we need to balance the flanks such that wingers and defenders can double up when attacking and defending, they need to protect the two central defenders. Gana and another whoever is the number 10, or second striker to be able to interchange between a 4-5-1 formation and a 4-4-2 formation when needed. right now I'd honestly play Gana and maybe McCarthy there and take your pick between Davies, Sandro, sigurdson, Rooney to be that false 9/ number 10/ box to box midfielder. got to defend together and understand the main players of each opponent. they need to be drilled on the defensive aspects. the talent is there. just disorganised still.

{Ed002's Note - Before you rush to replace everyone you need to see how they react with Koeman removed from his post. Everton has some very good players who arrived this summer - they now need the opportunity to express themselves.}

30 Oct 2017 13:06:15
A team is never too good to go down. Totally agree with that. We need a manager that can grind out results at the moment. I don't think we are in a position to go with someone who is established.

Not saying Moyes as the way he left and how he conducted himself leaving was disgraceful. But one thing is for sure, since he left we have been all over the place. When he was here we were consistant and steady.

Not calling for Moyes but do think we need that consistency and steadiness otherwise we are up s*it creak.

30 Oct 2017 14:21:57
Ed, I don't think I would replace everyone. the back 4 other than Williams imo is set. pickford set, then Gana for me is a definite. their me the rest is up to manager. I have my preference, but as I said it has to be the best 11 for a specific game plan, and that game plan has to begin with do not concede.

30 Oct 2017 09:15:23
Don't like to have to say this but we are relegation prospects this season.
We cannot keep a clean sheet.
We cannot score goals.
We have 4 very experienced players who seem to be automatic starters namely Rooney, Jagielka, Baines and Williams play now as if they are past it.
Whoever was responsible for allowing Lukaku to leave BEFORE a replacement was in place has a lot to answer for. Talk of signing a striker in January is easier said than done. Iff still in the bottom 3 in January, who would want to come to the club, sign a contract not knowing if he would be playing Premier or Championship football next season.
At least one top CB should have been signed last summer as Jagielka replacement. I think Gareth Barry's prescience is being missed more than expected. A players contribution is not always recognised until they are not there.
I am not a footballer, only a spectator so cannot pass comment on how a ream should be set up etc, but can see the obvious problems,

{Ed025's Note - i agree mate..

30 Oct 2017 09:32:27
Need a much harder Man Manager type to handle the likes of Williams and Rooney if I am being honest. Yesterday Rooney was picked in the No:10 role, yet wanders off post leaving no target man up front. Williams I am sorry to say is woefully out of form. I also agree with the poster that said, it is rapidly comeing near to Sam time the other one I would like is Dyche - down to earth and gets the basics down pat before pissing about.

30 Oct 2017 09:34:26
Yes mate and I think some of our good players will want to leave in January, ?

30 Oct 2017 12:15:51
Good post mate, I was one of the posters yesterday who would have big Sam as our next manager, have said all along that Rhino is not the man for the job as nice a guy as he is, but honestly mate we are in so much sxxxe at the mo anybody who can get us out of this dreadful era and Quick I would be very happy and grateful to may be sooner rather than later, just have a feeling this is going to get resolved very quickly.

30 Oct 2017 06:39:46
Whats going on with people wanting fat sam

Give your heads a wobble will ye, we won't go down so stop flapping and wishing he comes in, our fans are mental, funny but definitely mental.

30 Oct 2017 08:29:52
Why won't we go down you need to score goals to stay up and the team has no balance.

{Ed025's Note - im with you irish, i cant see where our next win is coming from to be honest and make no bones about it...we are in a relegation battle, if things continue we could be well adrift by the time we are able to try and change things in january, this team has nothing going for it im afraid...poor defence...no shape..no bottle..no commitment..and no goals, i think we are in serious trouble mate..

30 Oct 2017 08:56:17
Nobody wants Sam at the club Murf, but the situation is getting serious now and apart from the younger players like Davies and Benni there does'nt seem to be a way forward. Our defence is shocking, even Keane was getting ragged in his last few games. Jags is getting on now and Williams is finished from what I've seen. Rooney to slow, losing posession, what has happened to Gana? All the talent brought in by Koeman/ Walsh either sitting on the bench or not in the match squad i.e Klassen, Sandro.
No wonder fans are looking at a manager to avoid the drop.

30 Oct 2017 09:41:40
No conspiracy theory but it did seem just before Koeman left that there was a bit of an ashurnai going on behind the scenes. Koeman/ Walsh and even Moshri/ Kenwright in disagreement. The main one for me though is what one of the Eds alluded to and that is who the heck thought it was a clever move to promote Walsh beyond his pay grade from Scout to Director of Football. Bizarre. As Ed25 says make no bones about it we are in a relegation struggle we are stagnant and in danger of losing touch from 12th place after a third of games gone.

30 Oct 2017 10:20:04
I think they wanted Walsh and the only way they could get him was to offer him the DF post.

30 Oct 2017 12:49:47
Give big Sam a contract till the end of season build confidence it's all about climbing the table not lovely football we tried an attacking line up Yesterday in the first half didn't work.

30 Oct 2017 01:56:26
This will almost certainly bring down the wrath of ed25, and I guss one or two others, but, it's SAM time, it's either that or the championship.
Managers are sometimes unlucky, team plays well, but they don't get the results they deserve, but can anyone truly say one game in which we have played well, in truth the bourmouth and brighton games we got luckey.
We are so far in the brown smelly stuff it's a case of desperate times requier desperate mesures.
PS, and those upstaires should have acted long before now.

30 Oct 2017 09:32:21
Unfortunately we are in the s##t, we need a motivator and survival expert because with the unbalanced squad we have something needs doing urgently.

30 Oct 2017 00:08:25
What has happened to us? Since the premier league began, we have been the poor relations. We had little cash to spend the moment millionaire owners became paupers as the billionaires rolled into town. As soon as we get decent financial backing behind us we implode spectacularly. We all looked at the previous manager but it seems that there is more than meets the eye.
We have a team low on confidence. A team that doesn't look like they know how to score, rarely working the ball into the box and taking pot shots from 30yards+. A team that keeps less clean sheets than the pontins in Southport. I hated the way RK hooked a player at half-time nearly every week, for me this just shows that he got his tactics wrong in the first place. Rhino subbed two today! I'm not bashing the latter here but surely we should be getting the team, shape and tactics sorted before the game? Without a decent out and out striker, we will continue to struggle but this can be rectified in January. Fingers crossed that we haven't fell too far behind the pack by then. Defensively we are shocking, more so than I can remember. Under DM, we were quite solid at the back but Roberto came in and took 12 months to undo that ethic. We have struggled ever since but it is more noticeable now that Rom has left. I think it is too big a job for Rhino to be expected to take on, especially with his limited experience. Get in a manager for the short-term and put DU as his assistant to learn the ropes. The club needs to be decisive over the next manager and sort this mess out before it becomes a fully fledged crisis.

30 Oct 2017 04:04:32
Well said Blue Potato
If you look at our home fixtures from now to Xmas the hardest game is this next one against Watford .
Yes the next few are now hard games but would have been games we would expected to have won comfortably before our present crisis .
We must ensure we give ourselves a fighting chance once January comes and look to make Goodison a fortress and try not to see a big gap open up by then .
Incidentally I think and it won’t help us this year that the fixtures we started with should not be allowed in future .
Yes I know you have to play evryone in the end BUT if you have such a start and loose them it is much harder than if they were spread out evenly from a psychological point of view
We need a minimum of 17 points at halfway and then hope we massively improve from January.