Everton Banter Archive June 30 2011

30 Jun 2011 22:47:21
How about this for a likely team for the opening day match at Spuds....

Howard; Hibbert, Jags, Distin, Baines; Osman, Cahill, Neville, Arteta, Heintinga; Beckford.

Have you noticed anything about this team (LOL)?

NB: No Saha or Fellaini as no doubt they'll be injured, no doubt.

One thing iv noticed.....hibbert, instead of coleman.....this makes you....either..a relative, or close friend of hibbert...or a person who knows very little about football

Hibbert is a very good defender, what he lacks going forward he makes up for with his gutsy and determined defending. Coleman is a good prospect but defensively he not as good as Hibbert.{Ed011's Note - Hibbert never lets anyone down

After all he gives everything for the club

Coleman got seriously found out towards the end of last season, and needs to change his game abit, we know what we get with Hibbo

Re my team for the game at Spuds; It was very late last night and having hit the SEND TEXT button, I realised Coleman had slipped my mind. BUT, Hibbert at this moment, is a better defender than Coleman. For those that hadn't realised, it was my effort at wit, suggesting that no signings will be made

Coleman was sent off against chelsea. He would not be able to play the 1st game

30 Jun 2011 20:27:44
What would fellow blues be happy with next season? I think with n'zogbia and maybe long signing we could get 6th and maybe a good cup run

30 Jun 2011 19:01:55
Moyes would only sell baines if he received a crazy bid from city. Baines has given no indication that he wants to leave {Ed024's Note - Correct but we all know that money talks and Man sitteh can offer crazy bids, would you take £25m and re-invest in the team??

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That's one hell of a question, Ed Personally, Bainsey, along with Jags, are the 2 players I would least like to see leave. But you asked the question, so here's my view. Milner, Richards, Bridge & Bellamy PLUS £5m to put towards signing Defoe. OK, Mancini....Take it or leave it

Toffee Tezza

IM(&K)WT

I would take the other 3, but i just don't rate bridge

Bridge...would be a backward step....hes only famous....for being the husband, of john terrys, bit on the side.

Bridge is pony. Bellamy is a head case. Milner is a decent player. Richards isn't bad but seems to have lost his way, but all of them will be on wages we can't afford to pay. In any case Bainsey won't go. I don't want to tempt fate but I just cannot see it happening... unless they top what we got for Lescott... after all, Baines is far superior. If Lescott is worth £24M, Baines has got to be worth £35M.

30 Jun 2011 17:24:04
its time..for a reality check guys, we have not got any dosh, even loans for big players..is out at the moment...we cannot afford their wages.....the solution(in my opinion), is with the money generated by the sale of yuk..and yobbo...buy shane long. he is the best player out there, in our price bracket....its time to consolidate and make do with what we have got, until (hopefully), we get some investment. i know this is not what we want to hear...but unfortunately....its the truth....yours..

Yeah but we need to find someone that wants Yak and Yobo first, people don't seem to understand this, the only thing so far is a possible deal for Yobo, but the only comments for that came from BK who is hardly truthful at the best of times

Are you trying to imply, , , , that bill tells lies?...tut-tut-tut..wash your mouth out with soap.....LOL

30 Jun 2011 15:43:57
Everyone else is putting teams up so here's mine
Howard
Neville Jagielka Distin Baines

Wright-Philips Feliani Arteta N'zogbia

Cahill
Long

Subs
Mucha
Hibbert
Heitinga
Osman
Gueye
Saha
Beckford

I think its likely that we will sell rodwell and personally i hope we sell bilyaletdinov he cant cut it in the english league.

With the sale of rodwell, yakubu, yobo, vaughan and bilyaletdinov we should have enough to buy the player's i have put into the team Cant see it happening though

Where's Coleman

Sorry was meant to have coleman on bench instead of heitinga as i think heitinga will leave, i like him but he has made it clear if a offer from a champs league club came in heitinga would be gone in a flash

I like the look of the team you have put up. cant see us gettin both wright-philips and n'zogbia. i think moyes will move for only one winger

30 Jun 2011 15:27:59
Heard a few rumours arond the city that man city want baines and are willing to pay cash plus a player..... how true do you think this is ed ? {Ed011's Note - This has been talked about for a while, as far as i am concerned moyes does not want to sell baines, bainsey is happy with where he is, but knowing man city they might come up with a deal that is too good to refuse

30 Jun 2011 15:25:50
Everton next season 4-2-2-1-1

--------------Howard--------------

Coleman--Jagielka--Heitinga--Baines

-----------Fellaini--Defour----------

Arteta-----------------------Nzogbia

----------------Cahill----------------

---------------Sturridge--------------

Bench - Lonergan, Distin, Neville, Saha, Gueye, Long, Beckford

Outs:
Rodwell - 20-25m
Yakubu - 4m
Yobo - 3-4m
Bilyaletdnov - 6m
Pienaar - 3m
Vaughan - 2.5m
= 40m

Ins:
Sturridge - 15m
Nzogbia - 9-11m
Defour - 12m
Long 4m
Lonergan - few hundred thousand

Solid team BUT Distin > Heitinga, Distin was solid all last season and is a vital part of the squad atm.

I totally i agree but Heitinga is quality when he plays CB and if we dont play him he will just go plus Distin is now 33 and Heitinga is only 27 and if we want to keep Heitinga he has to play ahead of Distin. Sorry Big Sylv but its true

30 Jun 2011 13:02:44
It really annoys me when people can't spell our own players name, I don't know why it frustrates me so much haha
"Heitienger" jeeeezus....

Speaking as a Blackpool supporter i fear that DJC will be leaving us but I ASSURE Everton supporters that at £1.25 mill he is a bargain as he never stops trying and gives 100% ..and knows where the net is

30 Jun 2011 09:11:12
note- to roberto mancini....how very dare you...you expect to take the best left back in europe...and as payment...expect us to take over-rated, overpaid, prima-donnas, if you are serious about wanting baines....then ask your sugar daddy...to stump up £35m at least. we can then give this money to david moyes (who is twice the manager you will ever be), so he can spend it on players we really want, and not the dross, that you are trying to unload, to lower your inflated wage bill....ps in future dont be so condescending...we are a bigger club than you..with far more history and class.....yours..

Agreed - I think Baines is a key, no, KEY, player for Everton. Half of our goals come through him down the left. If he goes we might as well resign ourselves to mid table obscurity and give up. Rodwell is a good player but we have several good central midfielders in Fellaini / Rodwell / Heitinger / Arteta (plus Osman and Neville can play there) so even if Rodwell goes we can survive. baines is irreplaceable and if we want to break into the top four / five we need some class players like him. We just need to add a couple more and we'll be in business. Let him go and we're in trouble.

Couldn't put it any better myself. I agree with every part of this posting. Just who does Mancini think he is? Tell him to go forth and multiply

I think we should not even think for one moment about selling baines He is the best left back in england at the minute. His goals and assists last season were vital and no money can buy that. Id much rather us sell someone else if we need to raise funds KEEP BAINES

30 Jun 2011 00:21:39
I don't understand why some of our supporters complain about our lack of funds for transfers. The problem we face is our huge wage bill, relative to the size of the club.

Arteta earns over 80k a week and other players such as Yakubu, Fellaini, Baines etc are on big wages too. The revenue coming in is quickly eaten up by the large wages we've had to pay out to keep some of our best players at the club.

I think Moyes should sell Rodwell if he can get 20m+ for him as it could be used to fund the purchase of 2-3 good players who could stengthen the team overall.

I'd consider selling Arteta due to his high wages "but" I think Moyes made a mistake playing him in central midfield last season. Due to Fellaini's surging runs forward, Arteta was often forced stay back to keep the teams shape, which isn't exactly making the most of his attacking talents. He should put Arteta back on the wing, which is where he's always played his best. Drop Coleman to right back but let him make overlapping runs forward to support Arteta and I think the team will have more drive going forward. Hibbert tries overlapping but he's awful on the ball and his passing leaves alot to be desired. He's a great tackler, despite lacking pace, but often gives away possession when trying to support the winger.

I'd sell Rodwell for 20m.
Yobo for 4m.
Yakubu for 4m.
Heitinga for 6m.

Then I'd buy;

Sturridge for 16m
N'Zobia for 11m
Barton 5-7m

Then play a 4-4-2.

Beckford and Sturridge upfront.

N'zogbia - Barton - Fellaini - Arteta

Baines - Distin - Jags - Coleman

Howard.

I think that team could get us in the top 6 and have an outside chance of making the top 4 if we got off to a good start.

Why do peolpe insist on putting teams on here and leaving the club captain out, i will admit that when we signed nevile i was very unsure but he has been one of our most consistant players in the whole team and he is a great motivator

Arteta can go (10 games a season either side of Jan transfer window) and so can Rodwell. I dont think for a club that would like to bring in players can afford to knock back the silly bid for a player that really hasnt broke into the first team. Lets hope Moyes doesnt just bring in players for the sake of bringing them in like billy for example.

Steve J (Bluse Nose)

Nice article mate, i agree with most of it...but think 20m for rodwell is abit optimistic.

Not sure about this. No Cahill? No Neville? No Osman?

Would not buy Barton.
Would sell: Mucha, Yobo, Fellaini, Rodwell, Yakubu and Bilyaletdinov.
Would buy: N'Zogbia, Sturridge and Loach.
Would play: Howard
GK

Coleman - Jagielka - Distin - Baines
RB CB CB LB

N'Zogbia - Cahill - Osman - Arteta
RM CM CM LM

Sturridge - Beckford
CF CF

Subs: Loach - Heitinga - Neville -

Barkley - Gueye - Vellios -

Saha

High wages and that, are down to the chief exec and chairman negotiating poor contracts, thus just adding to the fact that our chairman and board are not fit to look after the club, we need someone with a business brain in there who can help us generate proper revenue into the club, and that is NOT the current lot