Everton Banter Archive January 30 2013

30 Jan 2013 23:30:17
NATIONAL JIM WHITE DAY is almost upon us. will there any surprises, who knows?? one thing is for sure, there will be more sightings of footballers than luggage at JLA tomorrow. a couple of moyseys surprises to help us kick on for the rest of the season. COYB. .IMWT. antefc

30 Jan 2013 22:46:04
Half of you are embarrassing, our team is on course for a top 4 finish, and all you wanna do is go on here and blast different players, moyes, kenwright, devising conspiracy theory's on bk, grow up the lot of you he is doing his best with the budget he has, why would we wanna spend 8 mlion on a player who could potentially have an injury that cod one day flare up and end his career. . There is a reason we are fans and not invbed with the club, cause 90% haven't got a clue. Sorry to those who are positive but this is getting rediculous.
- GiannisTheBlue

Well said giannis.were positioned beautifully in the league and the board have found us 12 million to improve our team and make a push for this champs league spot.whats not good about that.DublinTom

30 Jan 2013 22:28:23
Glad that Mirallas didn't go off limping tonight, and great to see Gibbo back on the front line. Vic played a great game as well. Great night.

Now lets see what next 24hrs brings us!!

TT

TT.good post mate nice to see some positive comments . Stef the blue,

30 Jan 2013 22:14:09
Not a rumour but i'm a fan of the reading striker Le fondre. what does everyone think about him for Everton?

Andy

30 Jan 2013 22:22:18
or gomez from wigan

Or lallana from southampton

30 Jan 2013 21:56:40
result was everything tonight and results went our way elsewhere as well so a good night.
lets hope we can get a couple of players in tomorrow and then bring on the villa

COYB

stewillow

30 Jan 2013 21:43:22
Great win you blues champions leauge here we come
#4thplace
Johnefc

I never felt more like singing the BLUES.......

30 Jan 2013 21:59:14
Totally agree with you mate only 5 points behind chelsea now
John efc

30 Jan 2013 20:42:49
Play Oveido at LB and Baines up front

Gotta be a hattrick tonight!!

Fluffy01016

When was the last time a defender scored a hat-trick? Does anyone know...just interested...(Cole better than Baines, behave yourself)!

Steve Watson vs Leeds

Fluffy01016

30 Jan 2013 20:30:18
This is better!! Good goal by Baines having most of the possesion at the moment

MikeEFC

30 Jan 2013 20:22:08
Kevin Kilbane, tv Radio 5 liveEverton 1-0 West Brom

"That's typical of Leighton Baines this season - a wonderful strike. He set himself nicely and got a little bend on it, with such power. I recommended him to Everton when I was at Wigan. He was in the process of going to Sunderland at the time, so I'll take a little credit there. He's a top player."


Thanks Kevin

George

30 Jan 2013 19:59:37
does phil neville ever play a positive attacking pass? no wonder we draw so many with his safety first football {Ed025's Note - give the guy a break will you!..

Every one knows Phil Neville is the weak link in our team, editor, I know your just being Political, but come on, Neville is poor, always has been, always will be. Right back or Bench {Ed025's Note - i do prefer him at full back, but while gibbo is injured, he can still do a job for me mate..

Gibbo back next game. move neville to right back and heitinga to the bench. {Ed025's Note - that works for me..

Give us all a break will you ed25 - we don't come here for your views - and by the way someone else wrote similar two posts below and I see you said nothing to him {Ed025's Note - im a supporter just like you..im entitled to a view as well you know!

Totally agree with this post, it so obvious, Neville needs to do one

30 Jan 2013 19:39:27
Phill Neville in Midfield again? Sick to death of him getting a start in Midfield. I don't even care if people disagree. Never was a decent Cm in his prime, never mind at his age. Sorry everyone, its RB or no where.
Fuming, a must win game against a side that have already beaten us and he's in CM again.

Just bang Fellaini in the Middle with Osman and put Vic and Vellios up top, simple

Another Thing, if Mirallas pulls up again then i'm going to gonna invade the pitch and bollock Moyes.

Statistic from TV last week. Average points gained without Neville = 1. Average points gained with Neville = 2. So that's why he is England international and League Winner and why Red Nose didn't want him to leave. Yes he is a safety first player, but the amount of last ditch blocks and tackles he does amazes me.
Degsypulford

30 Jan 2013 20:17:23
Everton have one more games when Neville plays in cm without him

Moyes obviously doesn't agree with you and he is the manager so i'll get behind the team

30 Jan 2013 19:28:32
Jelavic dropped mirallas starting.ryan

30 Jan 2013 19:27:16
The biggest mystery for me about the Fer deal is that it is announced on the site that we agreed a fee. Why? He then fails the medical (or is nicked in Holland) and the deal is off. All that happens now is that other clubs are alerted to the fact that we have cash to spend. Whereas before clubs may have thought "Oh, it's Everton. They're skint. The fee for our player is £3M" will now be thinking "Moyes has £9M burning a hole in his back pocket and has 24 hours to spend it. We'll hold them to ransom and that player who we value at £3M is now going to get us £7M". BlueTone {Ed025's Note - your over-thinking things tone...the internet, and social media sites make it virtually impossible to keep these things under wraps..

31 Jan 2013 08:29:46
The reports were that we were paying in instalments.

That would suggest to me that we only have the first instalment to spend.

Nobody knows anything apart from those that need too

Blue bones

30 Jan 2013 19:06:50
Hate to say it but
Fer today gone tomorrow.

All gutted to see this but Moyes knows best. Looking forward to tomorrow.
Anybody know site I can watch the game on tonight please?
Ginger Blue {Ed025's Note - firstrow has always been ok ginge...until last weekend..

30 Jan 2013 18:40:35
Sorry but this off deal for Fer has done my nut in... Didn't we sign lescott and jags with previous knee problems!? And has the likes of Ba even passed a medical!?!? Whoever is doin these medicals didn't seem to spot any potential problems with Mirrales did they Ay!? {Ed025's Note - why are people comparing mirralas with fer?...come on guys...i do despair sometimes.

30 Jan 2013 19:12:21
Why do you print this rubbish Ed absolute Baloney, GuernseyBlue {Ed025's Note - just showing you what i have to put up with guernsey mate..

30 Jan 2013 18:38:49
Hi Ed 025, We have been linked with 3 Midfielders this window.
Etienne Capoue
Vadis Odjidja-Ofoe
Leroy Fer
Firstly, do you think the Fer deal can be brought back to life so to speak?

Secondly, do you expect us to sign one of the 3?

Cheers Mate really appreciate what you do on this sight for us impatient fans, Dan1 {Ed025's Note - its a possibility....but not probable...and we may have missed the boat dan..

30 Jan 2013 18:10:22
Team for tonight

Howard

Neville Jagielka Distan Baines

Osman Fellaini Pienaar Oviedo

Velios Jelavic

30 Jan 2013 18:00:26
Here we go again with the spelling.its a footy site not a spelling test mate chill out.

30 Jan 2013 17:49:12
not so much a rumour here but more of a question/statement!
With the Fer deal falling through that means we have that money to spend, maybe a couple of million more on top of that?
So, we need a defensive midfielder, a striker and maybe a young keeper?
So...
Defensive midfielder - Ofoe?
Striker - I would personally take Darren Bent? but GENUINE rumour about Fernando Amorebieta from Athletico Madrid? so you never know!
Keeper - Shay Given doing the rounds but I would personally be happier with Butland

cokey the blue

Amorebieta is a centre-half.

Keith EFC.

Plus it's Bilbao, not Madrid.

Keith EFC.

30 Jan 2013 17:42:04
so where do we go nw ? who do you think we should go for nw leroy fer is not coming personally I think we should go for capoue what you think Ed ? {Ed025's Note - im not sure mate..

30 Jan 2013 17:32:49
Wernt darren bents fault it was the useless managers I mean look at lambert now not playing him and look where villa are.

30 Jan 2013 17:19:22
Think moyes should go for Diame and wes hoolahan with that £8mill or Diame and danny graham.

Behave lad, we want Champions League quality players...so WHY would we sign these players who are NOT of Champions League quality. If you're going after CHAMPIONS LEAGUE you don't buy MID-TABLE PREMIER LEAGUE players or CHAMPIONSHIP standard players. Are Diame, Graham or Hoolahan Champions League players? NO

Diame is quality and exactly the box to box tough tackling midfielder we are after and has a 3.5 million buy out clause. As in Santa!
Degsypulford

30 Jan 2013 17:02:02
At least now we know that we have some cash and that moyse and the team are looking at new players to sign.In moyes we trust!
Blue kaz

30 Jan 2013 16:49:58
Any chance of us unveiling a suprise signing at the game tonight eds? McBlue {Ed025's Note - not tonight..maybe tomorrow..

30 Jan 2013 16:44:05
Probably like the rest of my fellow blues, I had never heard of Leroy Fer before this week. Disappointed that it didn't go through as he sounds a decent player. It does highlight the importance of a thorough medical, as £8.6m would have been a large sum of money to lose if he had proven to be a crock! Lets hope he doesn't go on to be a £40m player and end up at Madrid or Barca.

Just hope we haven't left it too late to find someone else! BK and DM are going to be busy tomorrow. An evening in front of tv tomorrow night for me.

2-0 Everton tonight

Alastair

I'd go 4 Steven defour probably gt him 4 six million still only 24 25 lost his way abit ideal for everton hungry and well suited to prem

Defour a class player and moyes has shown interest in the past, think he'd be a bit more than 6 mill tho.

30 Jan 2013 16:23:36
Atleast we now no we have a couple of quid to spend, go and buy ofoe no more messing about with a loan

Clubs will know how much we have since we pretty much told them it will be very difficult now.
Joe EFC

Dont know about anyone else but if we go back in for ofoe now it would feel like losing a pound and finding a penny.

To be honest I wanted this ofoe in first place even v. Kompany said we have got a top player to be honest not herd of this fer before

Ofoe is in awful form for Club Brugge, one to avoid

30 Jan 2013 16:13:05
any idea who are next 'targets' are ed
ryanlowe1878 {Ed025's Note - no ryan..its all smoke and mirrors mate..

30 Jan 2013 16:02:10
really can't believe its off proper gutted, really hope we do have other targets, needs to be a decent player the mood i'm in now, I mean we should really of known bout the KNEE, were meant to of scouted this lad. how has he been playin if he is unsignable?

rhyl blue gary

Hes not unsignable, its just something they have spotted in medical that could or could not cause a problem in the future, not worth risking that much money for it all to go wrong

You can do all the scouting in the world, but you only find out if there is something wrong with a player once he has a medical. {Ed025's Note - thats true mate..

Most players are playing with injuries most weeks may not be serious but are playing with some sort of problem this was a first time he would of done a medical since joining twente other clubs won't know anything about a injury until it shows up at a medical

30 Jan 2013 15:58:43
I think we should go for fabrizio miccoli from Parma
He's about 29 and would cost around 7m gret striker and. W was a great player at juventus

30 Jan 2013 15:49:33
I wish people would wait until teh club make a statement ergarding Lero Fer. yes the club have kept this target quiet, due to Harry Robknapp and Girtrid Souness previously trying to buy everyonwe of our transfer targets.

I trust moyes and think if he has been watching Leroy for so long then it must be a serious knee problem to cause Moyes to pull out. However as soem peopkle suggest this could be a bargaining tool to lower teh up front fee paid by the club.

In moyes we trust so I suggest we wait and see what happens with Leroy the Lion and also the likes of Ofoa etc as i'm sure we will have at least 2 new faces come Friday Morning.

In Moyes we trust COYB

Brian The Blue

They have made an official statement now mate

4.30pm...and what now..??how long must we keep waiting for Everton to do something positive or take a chance. {Ed025's Note - so you want us to buy a crock, with all our kitty then?..look, these things happen...time for a reality check guys..

30 Jan 2013 14:57:06
eds? can Fer agree terms and sign a contract with us without acutally being baught yet. cause for all we know he could have signed but we haven't sent out the paper work that's why his agent is still here? {Ed013's Note - A fee would have to be agreed}

30 Jan 2013 14:08:45
Can, t believe DM has been tracking Fer since he was a teenager and the minute he decides to go in for him after his great performances this season with Twente he has a dodgy knee.What happened to all the homework they supposedly do on a player.

All the homework was done, we decided he was a good player! a medical isn't homework, its a transfer formality, to ensure what you are paying for is in working order!

EveTheOptimistic

30 Jan 2013 13:22:58
So now that there are problems with Fer all of a sudden he wasn't that good anyway..... 2 things..

1. We have scouts who decide if he is good enough to put in front of Moyse nose, and let's face it, they are usually very good at spotting these gems

2. We have a medical team who are charged with the responsibility to ensure all new signings show no immediate or future signs of injury

So let's not worry, leave it to the pro's and Trust in Moyse

COYB
Toffee ace

Here here!! so many football and medical 'experts' come out of the woodwork and start posting crap on here, if they were so good at spotting good players then they'd be scouts but they aren't

No thanks I'll trust in Moyes

30 Jan 2013 11:38:27
Everton still want to do a deal fer the lad apparently and you can't really blame them for exercising caution. After all it's a significant amount of money for us and we need to get it spot on. It's the same as buying a car only to find out the engine is faulty. You'd renegotiate if that happened, so why shouldn't we. If it fails then I'm sure there are contingencies in place.

Were guna sign 2 .fer and another gem fer will sign by t time

No news is good news, like the way everton are doin there business, .

Hopefully we have someone lined up, I'm hoping Capoue but will probably end up with Vadis on loan or some other unknown quantity. Shame we didn't get this guy, although I've never seen him play, he was keeping Sneijder and van der Vaart out of the national team allegedly.

30 Jan 2013 09:55:04
don't fret - a dutch colleague of mine tells me that Fer is just ok - not brilliant - plenty more fish in sea if it falls through

If his knee was reAlly bad twente would grab the new deal everton are offering, if itvwas that bad everton would pull out completely, .this deal will be still done everton s silence is golden, mite be trying to save a million for another loan

The deal is definitely off, we pulled the plug completely this morning, that's from a chap who works for a national radio station,

You would have thought we were signing Lionel Messi with the overboard reaction to the signing of this no mark. Yet now it looks like Fer is a total crock, he is no longer that good and we don't want him anyway.

Mike

*If he has signed before this gets posted, please note that he is World Class again.

Then why is his agent still in Liverpool working on the deal?

30 Jan 2013 08:45:44
I think we need to forget Fey and put in for Capoue or Ofoe instead.

Too much to risk on a crock! Just look at Mirralas.

And all those thinking that he is a replacement for Fellaini? Do you not think its Phil Neville that needs replacing?

Blue Bones

Well Said I think Twente have reacted very sly about the whole situation, if he has got a bad knee problem they need to act with dignity.Everton don't leave it too long with this need to look at other targets I agree capoue would be a good buy.Coyb Really trust moyesey on this.

Mirallas a crock. Have some patients for crying out loud. How often was big dunc on the treatment table and many other legends?

Players get injuries and we do get impatient. But let's not right them off as crocks please.

I agree that we need to be cautious though as this significant amount of money could well represent our budget for this and the summer budget.

Toffee ace.

30 Jan 2013 14:31:01
So youre happy with the amount of time he's on the treatment table Toffee Ace?
Youre made up when he leaves the field after 20 mins?

Thought Not!

We have too many 'patients' at the moment ace. We don't need any more.

You miss the point nameless ones. A crock is someone who has injury after injury over a long period of time. Let's judge Mirallas afer a longer are period a d give our medical team time to sort his hamstring out.

30 Jan 2013 07:56:07
I love how when the Leroy Fer thing started going round, one of his 'main attributes' was that he rarely got injured. Ironic?!


JG

30 Jan 2013 04:49:48
Fc twenty must have known abt fer injury they braggin how good he is why they selling him for £8mill if he's that good like they say he is they would want more money for him.they seem pretty keen to get rid of him.and am glad our medical team spotted it we don't want to buy a crocked player.ryan

Agree with this post. If the lad has a fundamental problem anywhere on his body and he breaks down, unless we have paid a ridiculous amount for the insurance - we have just lost £8 mill.
Possibly not even insurable.
Sad for him and us but that's why you have medicals.
Time to move on and look elsewhere, which I am certain we already are.

29 Jan 2013 23:47:25
Ed you have been very quiet what's your take on this fer situation and do think the deal will go through speke blue {Ed025's Note - i trust the clubs judgement mate, we cant afford to spend good money on a crock, i still think there is a deal to be done, but it must be on our terms, so if the powers that be think it is right...i will back them all the way..

29 Jan 2013 23:37:40
You only have to listen to Moyse to realise he would have much prefered that Everton didn't release details of the Fer transfer until we "get over the line." He knew in advance that there would be a rigorous check of the knee condition and that personal terms had to be agreed too. In that case, much better to have asked FC Twente and the Everton authorities to keep things under wraps until all is signed, sealed and delivered. You only stand to look foolish if you announce "deal agreed" and then things go pear shaped. Still think the deal will go through but lessons to learn for future signings.