Everton Banter Archive August 30 2014

30 Aug 2014 22:54:36
10 goals in 3 games nothing else needs to be said
But just incase

NOT GOOD ENOUGH

30 Aug 2014 22:19:00
Away from all the negative stuff, well done again today to steven naismith, the boy is becoming a fan favourite and epitomises everything everton, never gives in, works hard and plays for the shirt, the lad is a class act

{Ed025's Note - you probably know i dont need convincing swan, as you say mate...class act..

30 Aug 2014 21:17:33
Ed who else do u expect roberto to sign before Mondays deadline

{Ed025's Note - no specific names adam, but hopefully someone who can defend mate..

30 Aug 2014 21:31:35
I've just re-watched the match to make sure I hadn't imagined what I'd previously seen.
Jags cannot play in a Martinez system, he was great under Moyes playing hoof ball but he has no pace, can't pass, can't mark, and gets caught out of position too many times, Stones is there sat on the bench - I just don't understand it, a centre half that plays football with Distin to stay back and cover, is this not clear for all to see? Sort that defence out and we've got a team #shambles

Baz

30 Aug 2014 19:50:30
Oh dear. Jags has got to be dropped but I'll admit I'm a bit worried for this season. Conceding 6 with extremely poor defending is scary. Also 10 in three games is not good.

If it was a one off poor defending performance I'd be more forgiving but this is 3 games now and we are moving backwards.

I backed martinez the other day on here but today I'm eating humble pie.

On another note can't believe there's only 4mil difference between Lukaku and Costa. He was superb for them today.

IMWT just!

30 Aug 2014 20:34:01
Absolute shambles & totally shocked tonight. What has happened to our defense this season, jags can no longer play in this system & his confidence is totally shot since the World Cup, For Distin it's a season too far. but more worrying is the lack of cover & protection being offered to the back 4 from 2 outstanding defensive midfielders from last season - Barry & McCarthy.Barry has looked slow & disinterested & quite content/or not with his new 3 year contract on much lower wages, & McCarthy has been simply awful & maybe has been unsettled by interest from Man utd? Our defense keep standing off the opposition attackers allowing them to score too easily & we simply just cannot defend or even do the basics properly & keep leaving massive holes for the opposition to exploit. I think the Shambolic pre-season planning hasn't helped as so many of our players don't look 100% & Lukaku 28 million?!? Naghhh, sorry nowhere near that at the moment, he doesn't look fit which is disgraceful for a professional footballer. & so I could on & on & on.but I won't as I don't have the time too. any positives from tonight's defensive embarrassment? I thought Etoo looked superb, his movement & sharpness & finish for his goal was world class, in fact everything that the rest of our team wasn't!! Our attacking play is looking good at times, but you have to be able to defend in the premier league as well, not Wigan fc style but Everton dare I say it Moyesesque style. we desperately now need to buy a couple of defenders before the end of the window & cover for Ross whilst he's out injured as I feel we are missing him in the centre at the mo. so what's the answer to all this then?!? I say bring Tony Pulis in as defensive coach only, least then we'll be able defend & Bobby can worry about the attacking side of play as that appears to be all he's coached so far this season!! Another gripe - what the hell has happened to our set pieces & corners for the 2 seasons now?!? We can never seem to take them properly or pick out our own players from set play. obviously something else not coached on the training field. let his is simply not good enough boys. in fact I've almost detected a somewhat cavalierish/sloppy type of attitude from both manager & players alike so far this season, whether it's new contracts & raised pay packets that have caused it I just don't know, but what I do know is that we have a real problem as a team at the moment & if we don't sort it quickly, we can kiss goodbye to another top 4/5/6 finish this season. Bobby, Re you listening mate - this Everton fc, not Wigan Athletic! :(

30 Aug 2014 20:04:24
Before I get on to the negatives I want to say there were so many positives today that the score line will hide. Mirrallas mcgeady and once again naismith were all outstanding for me today. And what I wasnt expecting was how effective eto would be he was a real threat as soon as he come on. Once lukaku is up to speed we don't have to worry about our front line this season in my opinion. Now for the negatives. It is becoming more and more clear that we can no longer play jags and distan together at the back without looking completley vunlerable. With barry playing in front of them its just too much at once. We were torn apart today every time chelsea attacked we panicked. Stones needs to replace jags for me and a dominant centre half is now a priority. All the hard work from last season is in danger of evaporating unless we sort this out. Also lukaku is clearly still some way from being match sharp, hopefully the international break will give him the time he needs because for me he's been a passenger for the last 3 games we can ill afford.

30 Aug 2014 20:29:28
Well if today was not going to be hard enough as it was but to give 2 goals away in first 3 mins against a for me title winners but hey defending was shocking mainly jags and distin apart from that we were brilliant going forward especially 2nd half stones must come in now although distin is older I think he is better than jags his time is over you do not play offside against a guy like costa, mirallas was great as was Naismith went toe to toe with two of the best sides in prem but defending is costing us at start of season I thought we had enough defensive cover but now we need to sign someone Micah Richards cheap option who is class when he can get a game and if he is playing regularly should get england call up

{Ed018's Note - Everton played well today. Clearly controlled large portions of the match. Chelsea clearly took their chances brilliantly. Keep playing that way and you'll be fine. Your defense will sort it out}

30 Aug 2014 19:49:45
You could not print, what I would like to say, but getting mad, would just be a distraction from what must be done. Time has caught up with our two defenders, before monday night, action must be taken to save our season.

30 Aug 2014 18:32:21
Jags had got to be dropped
3 mistakes in 3 games and don't fore this mistakes in the World Cup. He's shocking been saying he's need tongi since bobby took over never a look confident on the ball we need to go for alderwield who would also cover right back

30 Aug 2014 19:10:59
9 goals in 3 games but pass the ball beautifully. We really are resembling a Martinez team but for all the wrong reasons. Well done to Eto'o and Stevie Naismith. Jags needs to be dropped permanently. Great game for the neutral. Pity I'm not one.

Who actually comes out of that performance with any credit? Howard should have been sent off, jags was awful as has become the norm, besic will be happy to forget his cameo whilst Lukaku reminded us just how important Eto'o could be this season. Every time the opposition have had the ball this season we look like we'll concede a goal. Worrying times.

30 Aug 2014 19:36:51
Totally agree eddy jags is woeful he needs to be dropped if anyone else was making these mistakes they would be dropped instantly

To be a top team you not only have to have top players but you also nedd top decision makers. So Bobby, it's time for you to make one.

Reshuffle your defence. Let them know that performances that don't improve cost you your place.

No one should be allowed to come to Goodison and score six goals.

We have scored 7 goals in 3 games and only 2 points to show for it.

Magnificent and awful in one performance. That is the best team that will come to Goodison this season, however Jags was awful, we can't really afford to but Besic should spend 6 months in the reserves for that. Mug.
We dominated the game but conceded 6 goals, that is staggering and worrying, we dominated last week and conceded 2 could have been 3.
Bobby M I love the way we play the game it's fantastic but can you hire Moyes back as a defence coach?

30 Aug 2014 12:07:01
Man City -Richards Sinclaire been told to find a new club
We have just let that Duffy go Do you think Bobbys making a bit of room

He needs to make enough room for the coach to drive straight on the pitch and do the defences job for them.

Imo sinclair is s**t and we have enough wingers and Richards is to injury prone.Why bother wasting money.

30 Aug 2014 13:58:20
A mate of mine is a contractor and has just returned home from carrying out some work in the Liverpool area and he told me that he was havin a pint in a pub after work and overheard a conversation between a couple of blokes who were saying that Everton have been able to attract the likes of Lukaku and Eto as well as re signing our youngsters due to the fact that there is a takeover/investment into the club that's imminent. Please don't shoot the messenger I'm just repeating what he reckons he's over heard. I for one don't believe a word of it, I just thought I would share it with you all

Oh God no please don't start these takeover rumours again mate, everybody is saying takeover since we signed Lukaku it's all bull ps having a rich owner is not that usefull anymore.

30 Aug 2014 01:17:37
A phrase I've heard is 'succession planning' and it seems clear to me that RM's recruitment policy is geared not only to having a strong team/squad for the here & now that's a good blend of youth and experience, but is also geared to bringing in young talent (e.g. Galloway) - alongside the current U-18 and U-21 players - who will develop and learn RM's style of play before making the (hopefully seamless) transition into the first team. The Galloway scenario is succession planning in my eyes - and, in his case, as the eventual successor to Distin. Stones is the eventual successor to Jagielka. Add Browning to those two and we should have three good centre backs in our future first team squad. Plus they'll all be classed as home grown players.
With players like Ledson (surely the eventual successor to Barry or Gibson) coming through - as well as a few others - it's clear to me that RM is organising the club's playing resources for the short, medium and long term.
He's the right one, he's the bright one, he's Martinez!

30 Aug 2014 00:53:30
By common consent amongst our fans - or so it seems - there is very little confidence in Robles as backup goalkeeper to Howard.
However, unless RM brings in another (experienced) goalkeeper - which does seem unlikely - it looks like we're stuck with Robles until one of our youngsters (we now have 5, having just signed Hunt from Blackpool to join Stanek, Griffiths, Hewelt and O'Loughlin) has developed enough to be good enough for the first team.
Is there anyone amongst this website's posters who is NOT concerned about our backup goalkeeping situation?

30 Aug 2014 11:41:20
Personally, I'm not too concerned. People forget he's still very young for a Keeper and has time to learn. Yes, he's unconventional at times but he is a decent shot stopper and has proved (to me anyway) that he has the potential to become a great keeper. He reminds me a lot like De Gea when he first joined Utd, so I feel that he will come good. I hope.