Everton Banter Archive February 02 2019

02 Feb 2019 22:47:18
We could really do with signing a few pairs of B****ks to help the players try and attack the ball! What a shower that was today. The bare minimum you should ever give when you pull on that magnificent Royal Blue Jersey is 110%! There is no fight in any of our players. The only one he puts his body on the line and i'd take in the trenches with me is Jimmy Mac. yet Silva won't play him! It's beyond belief sometimes. Why don't we try a different formation? We are so predictable.

{Ed025's Note - i agree mate..

02 Feb 2019 23:52:56
That was the hardest thing about today.
Getting outdone tactically is bad. Conceding again from a set piece because of problems with the zonal marking is really poor.
But the lack of fight, that was atrocious.
But I think it's a big part of why we concede at set pieces as no-one is attacking the ball.
Manager publicly blamed his players after the game. He has a point, it's not all down to the manager, but isn't that best done privately? And he didn't seem to take any blame himself. The danger is that way he will 'lose the dressing room' if he hasn't already.
Maybe the lack of fight is down to our 'mid table safe but going nowhere' position combined with 'here we go again' when we lose games from set pieces but the manager needs to deal with these things and seems unable.

So which is worse?
1) getting a reputation as a 'sacking club'
Or
2) being a club that accepts mediocrity
For me the second is worse and Man United took the same view and aren't looking back.
I don't know how long you give him. Just hope that we have someone lined up this time.

03 Feb 2019 08:29:47
I understand those that say constantly changing Manager is not on. I honestly believe this is different though. There is no evidence in the Premiership that Silva is capable of beyond six months consistency. This is supposed to be a better bunch of players on paper, yet even against Huddersfield they lacked confidence. Add to that he has started blaming 'his' players publicly, that is terrible Man Management. It really is beyond me why he was hired in the first place.

02 Feb 2019 20:11:09
Passionless, Pathetic, Predictable, and pointless again. How is it we continue with zonal marking when the team cannot understand it?

{Ed025's Note - i really dont know Lhr, it does not suit or players and the learning process is killing us mate..

02 Feb 2019 21:11:05
Ed025 the learning has to be both sides player and manager there has to be a compromise at the moment there is no progression and I really feel it is not a united group!

{Ed025's Note - it certainly looks that way to me as well wakka..

02 Feb 2019 18:47:44
I really don't know what to say, I'm all out of hope. On one hand, it's obvious that Silva is another manager not capable but then this constant cycle of sacking managers is destroying us at the same time. For me the players are as much of an embarrassment, 4 or 5 managers now and no heart or guts. It's a joke.

02 Feb 2019 19:24:58
Maybe in hindsight we should have kept Martinez.

02 Feb 2019 20:10:45
I don't think we'd be any worse off and certainly could have had a too striker with the dosh we've blown on managers since.

02 Feb 2019 21:12:48
No, we would have got relegated. Martinez is an awful club Manager.

02 Feb 2019
New image uploaded to the
Everton Player Sightings page entitled, Everton team lineup

02 Feb 2019 17:56:39
Get Mccarthy in that team get jagielka back soon as he's fit get some leadership some passion some balls. It's shocking to watch it really is poor, as everyone knows am not for sacking him but he needs to think up a plan b before Wednesday as this could be humiliation for us blues.

02 Feb 2019 18:26:13
I have to admit I was all for the appointment of Brands and Silva. I really thought that for once we we had a management team who along with FM would take us to challenge the top 6. Maybe not this season but put together a squad that would mature this season and challenge next season. I am now at a loss what to think. We could end up 11th by tomorrow and I just cannot see us beating Man City in the week. I am against sacking too early but what options do we have?

02 Feb 2019 18:37:56
I haven't had a drink for 2 months but this team of ours is turning me to drink. Silly mistakes again some of our play today was ok just a shame about the other 80 minutes.

02 Feb 2019 19:15:44
Nick Brands is a good appointment and apparently Silva was partly on his say so. It really is quite baffling. I have no idea how or why but this is his 3rd Prem Club and once again he is at the six month stage and everything going pear shaped. Hull were already down and he won a couple there but his job was difficult. Watford doing well up till Nov/ Christmas and then down hill. Here doing well up till Dec and then dismal. Given the pattern, as I say it just does not make sense.

02 Feb 2019 17:37:50
25 games. 15 goals conceded from set pieces. Says it all.

02 Feb 2019 18:27:25
And still the idiot zonal marks, uses the same tactics and formation. Absolute quality management if it doesn't work then keep persisting and it might work one week.
Its true what was said during the week that he flattered his eye lids at EFC and they fell for it hook, line and sinker.

02 Feb 2019 18:59:36
I think he has brought in some decent players and attacking wise we are just missing maybe a center forward. but these stats show we concede way to many from set pieces. If we just cut out half of them we would be on so many more points and still in FA cup. He will surely see soon that he needs to change?

02 Feb 2019 19:27:21
His posture is one that says he knows he will get to the end of the season and start of next.

02 Feb 2019 20:10:55
Degsyp, Charlie Nicholas put the boot in and when pundits start doing that, the end is nigh. Charlie 'Silva is not a Manager', a lot said in a simple sentence.

02 Feb 2019 17:17:02
When A Cat Is The Highlight Of The Match. says it all.

{Ed025's Note - sign him up to replace siggy..

02 Feb 2019 17:40:06
During that 4 odd minutes when the cat was on the loose not one Everton player went over to the bench for instructions etc, they just all stood around, hands on hips, plenty of activity on the Wolves side though. Pickford kept us in it against Huddersfield, I think those 3 points bought Silva a few more weeks. The lack of passion and fight is down to the manager, he just does not inspire anyone. Another bad day to be a blue. Shambolic.

02 Feb 2019 18:03:06
Tells you the state of the attitude of the players and also the manager.

02 Feb 2019 17:09:18
All I can say is, that was horrendous from start to finish except for Gomes Goal. That was dire. Zonal Marking WTF is it, cause our players have no idea, no creativity anywhere on the field. We started the season brilliantly but we have been found out and there doesn't seem to be a Plan B. I'm not one for the manager to be sacked but if I were Everton he needs to be looked at closely. Seems to be a pattern with the last 3 Premier league teams he has coached. All started Brilliantly and fallen in a massive hole. I think it's time we look at Benetiz very seriously.

02 Feb 2019 14:45:20
Sigs and Walcott start WHY? Blue eyes come to mind.

02 Feb 2019 14:51:03
f f sake! the game hasn't even kicked off yet and you're already moaning.

02 Feb 2019 15:09:47
oh dear.

02 Feb 2019 15:28:48
Hallelujah :-) 1-1.

02 Feb 2019 15:48:37
Can't blame him tbf.

02 Feb 2019 15:55:53
With Silva under pressure it is interesting to see that Paddy Powers has David Wagner 7/ 2 as next manager.

02 Feb 2019 15:56:06
Well we will see if I'm right to moan big h . sorry if we all can't agree with you and if I want to say something I will wether you agree or not.

02 Feb 2019 16:00:40
The gloves are off. Out with the dueling pistols :-)

02 Feb 2019 17:02:53
Questioning the team line-up is okay. Nothing wrong with that. Should leave people to do what they do.

02 Feb 2019 17:04:16
They would both miss Nick, typical blues :)

02 Feb 2019 16:35:22
I am getting a ring side seat for tonight's ding dong in here. Will sandwiches be served ed?

{Ed025's Note - only nuts nick.. :)

02 Feb 2019 17:10:55
Maybe at my age blue tit 🤔.

02 Feb 2019 17:21:37
I can't say what I want because the Eds censor it in case it upsets one of poor lickle snowflakes.

02 Feb 2019 17:35:47
Watch what you say bigH 😀🤛.

{Ed001's Note - BigH gets censored because he personally insults anyone with a different viewpoint. His posts are censored because he is out of order nothing to do with snowflakes, he is just being an arse who is in need of some lessons in manners.}

02 Feb 2019 13:43:49
Can whoever is editing today tell me why some of my replies fail to appear?

{Ed025's Note - i have only just come on mate and the site seems to be playing up a bit, i will try to find out why..

02 Feb 2019 13:51:58
Thanks Ed. I know I can get slightly carried away once in a while when idiots wind me up but I'm never overly offensive.

{Ed025's Note - no problem mate..

02 Feb 2019 14:18:06
There's only a couple of them now these days BigH mate.

02 Feb 2019 08:04:11
Just looked and I said Sam's win % at us was 38 with a goal difference of - 3.
Silavas record so far is win %39 with a goal difference of +2 so for silva to be a poor replacement he's not doing much difference really apart from scoring more than he concedes and actually tells his players to shoot we had the least shots in the league under Sam just let that sink in mate u say he sets out to win in football he does not he sets out not to lose which is fine if u want to stay in the prem but I would hope wer not just after staying up anymore, I think if Sam would have come to us 20 years ago then he would have been a good appointment but now? No chance.

02 Feb 2019 08:11:32
Sorry this is a follow up rant the original part of which is on the others page.

02 Feb 2019 09:08:30
I will always remember him for that interview sting. Offering to help them fudge the FA rules, whilst working for the FA, in return for a load of cash.
He's a great guy isn't he?

02 Feb 2019 09:16:43
Best forgotten about lads.

02 Feb 2019 09:31:27
Totally agree GB if u read the first part of that rant on the others page u will see its all directed towards Sam's agent I mean ducksflysouth just to point out that silva is actually doing better than Sam whilst working with a massive squad and trying to sift threw the crap we currently have on the payroll.
We need to clear our squad to the bare bones and start again with youth and a few hand picked older professionals to guide the younger lads and for me that's what brands and silva are doing I guarantee we will be better next year after the 2 of them have had 2 summers to get the team how they want it we will se improvement.

02 Feb 2019 10:48:16
I am glad Sam is not our manager but he did what he was asked to do so why knock him. We are still a prem club and we might not have been if we had got Silva at that time I reckon.

02 Feb 2019 11:32:37
Sorry clouds that's skcollob mate we wer not going down last year anyone saying Sam saved us is a fool.

02 Feb 2019 12:02:15
I'm a fool!

02 Feb 2019 12:20:11
Spot on Johny mate.

02 Feb 2019 12:27:48
Allardyces stats for Everton are only slightly better than Silvas at Hull so I see no reason why Silva couldn't have gotten us to 8th.

02 Feb 2019 13:06:29
Of course Smit mate, another spot on post.

02 Feb 2019 13:32:09
There is just no comparisson with the team we had under Sam. but a lot of the blame lies at Martinez/ Koeman eras! The squad we had under Moyes was strong but ageing. It was also balanced. no matter what you say about quality, we attacked.

In Moyes' last season we regularly had stats of 60 to 70% possession and scored lots of goals. We just couldn't seem to muster enough to get into the top 6. Martinez brough Barry and Lukau in and was fortunate that Barkley was maturing. But he signed a load of terrible players too. When Lukaku left we were exposed. Koeman came in and added some bang average players.

When he lost Barkley, we were so weak in midfield and I was writing on here every week about how we were lacking left sided midfielders and our players were either old or young and not many in between. Koeman then had that dreadful transfer window whereby we signed (not my words but others) five number 10's. Well our squad was then at its weakest since Walter Smith's days.

I really thought we would go down. 3 reasons: Lack of left sided players, lack of players at their peak and no center forward. Sam Allardyce was brought in to secure our place in the Premiership. I suspect Unsworth could have done this. it was clear Koeman had lost the players in the dressing room. A change was needed and it was Allardyce. He did what he had to do but got hacked off because at Everton we have an expectation of the School of Science.

We are not the Wimbledon hoof it brigade (sorry Wimbledon) . I point all this out because the fault lies not at Silva nor Allardyce. The fault lies at Martinez and Koeman/ the club. Martinez for allowing a squad to age to the extent he did and not signing left sided players and signing players frankly not good enough. Koeman for initially making progress but then having a nightmare transfer window and losing the confidence of the players.

Silva has players with creativity. We attack far more than under Allardyce. we just need to defend set pieces now. If he can sort that out we will be challenging for the top 6. Patience is now needed. He has taken us back to where we were at the end of Moyes' time. Silva needs 2 or 3 more transfer windows and we will see his team develop.