Everton Banter Archive July 29 2018

 

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29 Jul 2018 23:49:03
What a sorry state where in if that's the fact. don't these players look further down than top 6 of the premier league.

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{Ed002's Note - Do you think any 24 year old Everton player knows about how Cagliari did last year?}

30 Jul 2018 08:47:43
The Premier League has more appeal that Serie A these days regardless of league position. The Digne deal alone proves that. I don’t understand though why most of our fans think players should be queueing up to sign for us us. Most foreign players will look to CL first. All this aside, I still think we’ll pull of a few more after Digne.

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{Ed025's Note - absolutely BLUE..

30 Jul 2018 10:32:50
Sorry to say it but we are so much further away from the top 6 than the start of last season, top players as always want European football and although money talks it just means agents are jacking the price for average players!
Seventh is the realistic target and clubs around us like West Ham have significantly strengthened much earlier than us.

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{Ed002's Note - It is the clubs and not agents who push prices up.}

30 Jul 2018 10:57:12
Ed’s right Wakka. It’s supply and demand - Prem clubs have so much money that other clubs know they can hold them to ransom. Clubs are so desperate to strengthen in the last few days of the window that they’ll pay almost any price knowing that if they don’t, another club will. You only need to look at our business last summer to see that.
What agents do is encourage their players to move on regularly and plant stories about unrest to trigger contract negotiations- they get their 10-15%.

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30 Jul 2018 11:33:07
Is Digne just coming to Everton because we pay high wages? I feel that a lot of Everton's problems come from overpaying players who know they could not get the same sort of money at smaller prem clubs. Once here they are just collecting money.
Take a club like Burnley where the players have to prove themselves a lot more, there wages while still very good are a lot less than Everton.
Players like Mirallis are earning a lot more than they could anywhere else so they just sit out there contracts, he is just an example, Ashley Williams another to name but two.
In the days of Moyes players came to improve themselves, ok they left as say Arteta did but at least we had a good few years from him, we need that kind of attitude now.
I think I am making sense.

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{Ed002's Note - The compelling factor would have been game time as he knew that would not have been guaranteed by the other sides who had shown an interest as they were looking for cover - which is what he was at Barcelona.}

29 Jul 2018 23:41:10
heard something today about Schindler from Huddersfield town in regards to defenders - anyone heard about this.

Checked his stats and they seem ok - played plenty last season, 28 years of age - maybe a stop gap for the next couple of years.

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30 Jul 2018 08:48:17
Don’t think we need a 3rd choice left back pavillion.

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30 Jul 2018 10:35:32
He's not top of my list of players we need.

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29 Jul 2018 23:29:55
Ed mate if these players want to play for someone else well go. that's if they want you. am getting pissed off (pardon me French) . That there waiting for a better offer. I understand were not an attractive club anymore but were offering a good wage and a 3 to 5 year contract . come and play for the shirt not the wage or don't come at all. am sorry for the abrut approach but if yer not arsed don't come.

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{Ed002's Note - To be frank you need to understand that Everton will not be known by many of the players from mainland Europe, like the English players will not know about Getafe, Rennes, Kaiserslauten, Bari etc. Without searching the Internet.}

30 Jul 2018 10:04:56
I think the only way we can sell Everton to young players who don’t really know everton is sell to them went are a stepping stone to a bigger club give us 3 years of good performacea and the interest will come. There’s nothing wrong with doing it this look at Atletico Madrid and monAco they do spend big If a young player has huge potential and they do sell big too and they have so very well in the leagues well that’s what model we should me aiming for.

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30 Jul 2018 10:27:10
I disagree to an extent there ed. Although I completely disagree with the original post. A player is going to try and get the best job available, play CL football and try to satisfy their ambitions of competing and winning silverware. We can't expext people to beg to sign for us if there are better job prospects. We would all do the same in our working life. Ed, I do think the premier league status and popularity alone would make us more known than the clubs that you mentioned. For a club outside of the elite we have a decent global recognition/ brand. I think a lot more players abroad would know of Everton. But the appeal, knowledge and pull is nowhere near as strong as others which is why players will consider their options. It could be I agree or disagree but to an extent.

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{Ed002's Note - No, I am afraid not. If you were to take young French, Italian, Spanish and German players from Guingamp, Sassuolo, Eibar and Augsburg they would know little of Everton - they would be unlikely to be able to put a pin in a map and tell you where the club is based or name players from the club. It would be no different to the young English players from Everton like Pennington and Calvert-Lewin - could they put a pin in a map and find any of these clubs, or name any of the players? No will be the answer. I think you are perhaps over estimating the standing Everton has in Europe. Take a simple European ranking position - Everton sits between Partizan Belgrade who sit one place above them and Slovan Liberec.}

30 Jul 2018 11:04:34
Sorry Ed, we’ll have to agree to disagree here. Been to Europe, US, Asia, Africa. Everton are well known and respected. Not all players of course, but certainly Rooney raised our profile last season. The Premier League in general now has a far greater exposure than any other league.

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{Ed002's Note - Of course.}

30 Jul 2018 11:31:04
B79 although the PL s probably watched by a fare few people across Europe, I suspect they tend to watch the clubs at the top end of the league not so much the mid table sides. So unless we are playing a top side I suspect not many people watch Everton. I think Ed002 is probably closer with his assumption that not a lot of European players know much about us. We don't compete regularly enough in European competitions to raise our profile either. We have never been a big European club and until we can rise our profile within Europe then I can see why we struggle to get players in the top European competitions banging on our doors wanting to play for us.

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30 Jul 2018 11:38:37
Goes without saying that more people watch the top clubs. But we play top clubs often and so have good exposure worldwide. Also goes without saying that a player would rather join ManU than Everton. Outside of the top 6 though, we do have a pull over mid table teams from other European leagues.

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30 Jul 2018 14:44:06
Plus Liverpool FC raises knowledge of us. They know Liverpool so they would most probably know of the derbies, so they would most probably know that we are in Liverpool :) that's why I said to an extent. No where near as much as the big clubs and not in as much depth butore than the clubs that you mentioned in both regards imo atleast ed.

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{Ed002's Note - You are all kidding yourselves.}

30 Jul 2018 15:25:05
Leave us alone ed, let us live in ignorance 😅 haha.

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30 Jul 2018 16:06:12
embarrassing thread this, no one knows everton across Europe eds right it's just a fact.

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02 Aug 2018 18:04:32
People can give there opinion yano lad.

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29 Jul 2018 23:06:06
Mind up . if yer not interested don't come stay at Barcelona pickin yer wage up. I want players to come to Everton to play for the shirt not the wage or the stepping stone. am sorry but it's doing my ed in.

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{Ed002's Note - Realistically limiting the potential players to Everton supporters would be a dangerous approach.}

30 Jul 2018 00:00:55
I wouldn't believe the reports that he is waiting for a better offer, something to fill a gap in the news until he signs tomorrow. If someone like Juve came in before then and he went you could hardly blame him.

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30 Jul 2018 10:29:50
Bob you need to calm yano mate. Take a breather. I understand your pationate but 1 we do not know much about football and 2 we can't change anything anyway mate. don't believe everything you read either. If I wasnt an efc fan I would want to know my options before signing for us.

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29 Jul 2018 23:00:21
Close to signing Digne sky sports whoopee. Obviously nobody else interested why does it take so long for players to make there.

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29 Jul 2018 22:41:50
Most vital signing to make for me is a CM that can drive a team forward we have no one hence the sideways and backward passes, it makes one hell of difference, and will help our defence a lot, RLC fits the bill, I don't know how much he would cost but I think even 30m would be a bargain in today's market, he will only get better and there is no reason why he wouldn't be worth double or treble that in few years time, I know we took a loss on Klassen but let's be honest we have made more profit on players than losses.

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29 Jul 2018 22:59:23
I said the same, he would be the ticket, young, big, strong and skillfull, what's not to like about him.

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29 Jul 2018 23:03:00
I'd even take drink water on loan to go along side him, give gueue some competition.

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29 Jul 2018 23:07:45
RLC would be a fantastic signing. If he is available, would other top teams not be interested? He’d walk into our side at the moment - hopefully game time is top of his wish list!

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30 Jul 2018 00:11:49
I think this World Cup will change younger players hunger to play first team football RLC proved what can be achieved to playing regular, and he has a decision to make I likewise think he walks into are team, but top 6 clubs I think he will have to Be in same position as he is at Chelsea.

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30 Jul 2018 10:31:24
RLC would give us something we lack. We don't need goal scorers we need to create more for the players we have.

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29 Jul 2018 21:39:14
Sky reporting Digne will sign tonight.

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29 Jul 2018 22:54:04
I do love the media outlets that say “our sources inform us”. Like they haven’t just read something on twitter that Barcelona posted.

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29 Jul 2018 20:20:06
Peter Reid put on your boots and come back because we've never replaced you.

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29 Jul 2018 20:40:06
I’d like to say his legs are gone. But they also said that when we signed him.

What I would do to have him at his peak in our team.

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29 Jul 2018 20:14:16
Coleman will still be prem standard age 36 baring injury.

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29 Jul 2018 19:29:31
Whilst rumours are great, its just under 2 weeks to kick off and we were woeful against Rennes, let's hope MB/ MS have some aces up there sleeve or we going to be in for a long season, i'm sure many blue noses agree its a frustrating time, without upsetting the Ed, s, we are none the wiser where we stand, COYB.

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29 Jul 2018 19:52:32
Upsetting the Ed is not always difficult 😬
I’ve been callIng for calm and support from the beginning, but. we do need to sign some players.
Sean Dyche has just done an interesting interview. He basically said that all clubs are holding onto players until the last minute to increase interest and get the best price. Dangerous game, but Everton may be one of the teams that are willing to pay over the odds to get bodies through the door.

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29 Jul 2018 19:53:07
Hi Graham mate I would like Marco to get Wellbeck in for us, think he would be ideal.

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29 Jul 2018 20:11:30
Realise Silva has his targets, but only 1 arrived, we are so short in all areas, deadline day for us maybe very interesting, but also a nervous one lol.

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29 Jul 2018 20:30:55
As we keep saying mate no one has a clue,

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29 Jul 2018 18:51:49
I see Fulham are in advanced talks with Swansea for mawson I always thought he was a good defender do anyone think we should put bid in for him I would especially at fee there talking about.

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{Ed002's Note - The sensible plan would be to talk to Middlesbrough and see if the club can come to an agreement over Ben Gibson.}

29 Jul 2018 19:19:06
Last swansea lad we bought wasn't the best.

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29 Jul 2018 19:50:05
I am baffled why we are not after Mawson, a better bet than Mina.

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29 Jul 2018 19:50:57
Gibson is a far better player.

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29 Jul 2018 20:00:59
Maybe we could do a swap!

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29 Jul 2018 20:11:51
Their lad Clucas looked decent last season too - looked like he got stuck in but has a touch of class too.

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29 Jul 2018 20:13:54
I thought Mawson looked good last season Primo. Didn’t ser too much of Gibson. Is he quick enough? We need someone with pace to mop up after Keane.

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29 Jul 2018 20:43:36
If Mawson keeps progressing at current rates then he will be an England regular. I’d be happy with either him or Gibson.

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30 Jul 2018 13:00:38
Why don’t we go get both, we are in need of both for sure.

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29 Jul 2018 17:10:30
Not Everton related but does anyone play football index?

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29 Jul 2018 15:35:31
On a positive note we've scored 24 goals and conceded 9 in preseason.
Reasons to be cheerful.

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29 Jul 2018 19:50:42
22 of them against the blind school though mate.

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29 Jul 2018 14:28:11
Hi Ed has much been mentioned about Wesley from Brugge Seen a few thongs linking is with him never heard or seen him play could be another star like Richarlison?

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{Ed002's Note - Wesley doesn't score enough goals and would likely not get a Work Permit to play in England unless a club were to pay well over the odds for him - Lazio have discussed him with Brugge on a couple of occasions as I understand it.}

29 Jul 2018 16:30:09
Cheers ed 👌🏼

What’s the score with the transfer window this year with the deadline do we have two now one domestic and a international one?

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29 Jul 2018 17:50:37
Ed if he doesn't score enough goals and possibly wouldn't get a work permit, he'd be perfect for us.

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29 Jul 2018 19:21:10
Yes 2 Eddy. The 9th for us and end of August for Europe.

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{Ed002's Note - No Eddy. The transfer window for registering players for next season is August 9. That is it for bring plauers in.}

29 Jul 2018 19:53:25
He just hit a hat triçk today. sign him up lol.

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29 Jul 2018 13:36:34
4 in
6 out

That's what we're led to believe

Outs

Rooney
Funes mori
Klassen
Joel

Ins

Richarlison

Not including loans

So we close too a LB, that leaves a CB and one more depending on other sales

We need the following in my opinion

LB, 2xCB, CM, Striker.

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29 Jul 2018 14:31:15
Sounds about right true blue.

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30 Jul 2018 13:01:19
Silva is quoted as saying he needed about 6 players if I remember right.

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29 Jul 2018 12:16:11
I am going to log out in a minute. Can one of the Eds please delete my accounts. No reflection on this site I think it an excellent one. Just that much against my character, I find myself becoming more and more negative, probably frustration. I shall of course continue to read comments with interest.

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{Ed025's Note - just have a blow for a bit ktf, dont delete your account just post again in a couple of weeks mate..

29 Jul 2018 17:35:17
I am the same at times ktf. don't worry. It is tough being a Blue at these times.

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29 Jul 2018 11:59:36
Coleman words are a interesting read - it seems the players like Silvas ideas and training methods but what concerns me are the words that they have not brought these to the pitch. these are professional footballers who should be able to follow instructions ie lose the ball track back, get the ball wide etc

If they can't do it in pre season friendlies are they going to do it on match day in 2 weeks time - who knows.

we missed the boat a few years ago in replacing some of the defenders and now with the amounts of money being asked for certain players it seems we will have to do with what we have - I can't really see us spending another 50 mill on defenders at the moment ( and that is if there are any good ones left within that price )

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29 Jul 2018 18:56:21
Bout time Coleman was made captain.

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29 Jul 2018 10:45:27
Let's analyse the current position at our club.
Marco and Marcel would/ should have looked at videos of every game last season and made an assessment of the players.
Pre-season would have been Marco's opportunity to see if his coaching methods had the potential to improve the performance of certain players. Both MS and MB will now be fully aware which players figure in their future plans and where the team needs fresh blood.
What is a little perplexing is what is obvious to all bloggers he would be unable to turn back the clock with regards to Jags and Bainsey, so has a priority a commanding CB with pace and a L/ WB again with pace who could defend and offer something going forward should have been identified and recruited.
We have a core of good established players, such as Pickford, Coleman, Gueye Sigusson, Walcott and youngsters who are ready for the first team squad in Lookman, DCL, Holgate and Banningme.
So, given that we recruit two defenders that meet the above criteria, and identify a midfielder who has the skill to beat a man and see a pass Marco needs to clearly communicate his plan and realistic expectations going forward and the supporters will then be able to relate to what is happening.
But don't let's lose the real potential of the likes of Lookman and DCL who imho is better than Kane, at his age, and has more pace, better movement and greater aerial threat than the England captain and with an extended run would produce the goals.
Marco and us supporters give the youngsters a chance to step up to the plate.

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29 Jul 2018 11:05:41
I’d agree DCL is faster and taller, but Kane was a far more clinical finisher at the same age, with his head and both feet.

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29 Jul 2018 11:40:06
Withe reference to Kane, I live in Norwich and saw Kane when he was on loan not sure of his age then but he was hopeless and never looked like he would make it. There is plenty of time for DCL to develop.

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29 Jul 2018 11:47:06
Nice reminder Fancy Smith. Yes we have some great youngsters coming through. I sometimes forget some of the potential. But even so, we expect too much from them sometimes. It is a man's game and you could see with young Tom Davies how he initially broke into the team yet when things started to go wrong, he was often missing. I also think Schneiderlin just has to be replaced with a dynamic midfielder who wants to win the ball and then carry it and look to go forwards. I do understand we have some great kids and also some quality. but I have been banging on and on and on about replacing Jags and Baines since the end of last season and some posters on here just say I am being negative and "enjoy the ride". I am sorry, but I cannot enjoy watching a 36 year old center back partner a 33 year old left back and then if they are injured watch Cuco Martina or Ashley Williams or Michael Keane look like the ball is some hot potato that you have to get rid of. Holgate has to be a starter for me even at the tender age of 21. And another from elsewhere. And a left back. and a center midfielder. and there lies the problem. We are mediocre to poor in many positions. it is all well and good having a manager with attacking intentions, but if the players are not good enough (which is what he seems to be hinting at now) then you cannot turn a pigs ear into a silk purse!

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{Ed025's Note - you can over time but not overnight degsy, its ok saying buy him and him then lash a few out but its a process mate and thats why patience is the key..

29 Jul 2018 11:56:12
I’ll have to slightly disagree with the original post. MB and MS could watch all the videos they like, but until they actually work with the players and see how they respond to their way of training/ thinking, then they won’t know what they’ve got on their hands. Everyone has a clean slate imo and, quite rightly, will be given a chance to impress and find their form again under this new regime. Obviously with the likes of Davey Klassen, they saw what they saw early on and he was moved on. It will be the same for others, I’ve no doubt.

I do agree regarding the youth though. MS is known to be a good man manager from what I can gather, so will be interesting to see how he brings the young lads on.

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29 Jul 2018 12:03:53
Of course Ed025. I agree 100% but what is frustrating is that I have come on this site for years now. I suggest that there may be a problem with certain players (eg the age thing with our defence) . I remember me and Swan going hammer and tongs about it 3 or 4 years ago when I first suggested we needed to deal with it. Everyone was saying I was negative! Here we are 3/ 4 years down the line with exactly 3 players who have been loyal servants to the club but are clearly past it. So we buy Ashley Williams of the same age. We sign Cuco Martina who can't even get on the Southampton bench! Then talk about top 6. The damage was indeed done when Martinez took over. It now needs dealing with big time. Yes I understand the need for patience. I have had to use a lot of mine up over the last few years. ps Coleman will be past it in a couple more years. we should be signing the best youth right back about now!

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{Ed025's Note - maybe everton should have appointed you degsy...you seem to have all the answers mate.. :)

29 Jul 2018 13:28:50
I agree with Kane I saw him play for u21s few times when he was younger and thought he is not good enough looked clumsy and would be a championship player at max.
I was completely wrong. DCL has got potential but I think he should go out on loan and play week in week out maybe prem side or championship club.

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29 Jul 2018 13:40:07
Jesus degs I feel sorry for your cat mate, cheer up, Coleman's got 7/ 8 years left in him and we habe the best youth right back already at the club in Kenny, we also have a top lb at the club in Robinson, couple of top top young cbs in holgate feeney and the Aussie lad who's name escapes me, we have top youth wingers in lookman blower evans, top youth midfielders in beni, Davies, dowell and some fine youth strikers in DCL and lavery. don't worry bout our youth mate wer good it's just the here and now we need to worry bout.

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29 Jul 2018 13:37:25
Agree Degsy since Martinez took over it’s been our defence letting us down and it hasn’t been addressed players are Herron older and slower SO WE BUY an old Ashley Williams and slow Keane. The back line needs some pace in fact the whole team needs pace we need a plan b from tosun.

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29 Jul 2018 16:24:03
Coleman may have 7 or 8 years of football but only 4 maybe 5 left in the Prem. He is 29.

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29 Jul 2018 17:41:53
Johny1989, Coleman is 29.turns 30 this season. Fullbacks these days in the prem can go to 33 if they are absolutely in top condition. At most 2 more seasons after this. And this is exactly the conversation I had about Jags, Baines etc a couple of years ago. People over estimate the length of players' careers. Just because one or two can extend, does not mean they all can. Some players careers are over at 20! re all the youth. I have already said it is promising. you even say yourself it is the here and now we need to deal with! So youth is not the short term answer!

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29 Jul 2018 16:23:40
no degsy you come on here thinking you are the only that sees any problems with the team for example some players are getting old like nobody else can see this again in these messages you are banging on about how right you are and how we all know nothing it really is sad i have read your messages for at least two years its always the same i predicted this im right ye are all wrong just grow up.

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29 Jul 2018 17:52:57
Agree Degsy 3 seasons max.

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29 Jul 2018 17:53:15
It's as if most of you are ignoring what is actually going on, right now, at the club just so you can start thd criticism.

We need a younger fresher LB. Digne is close to signing.

We need a CB. We've been in discussion for Mina and are hoping to close out the deal this week when he returns.

Silva has said he wants 5 or 6 players meaning that we are out there trying to fill those places where we need them.

Keep the hysterics for after the window when we know what we have.

Unlike 12 months ago we ARE filling the areas we need to and not wasting on areas we don't need.

Have a bevy, chil out and get a bit of perspective. Otherwise that vein on the side of your head will explode.

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29 Jul 2018 19:22:40
Good post BJU.

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29 Jul 2018 10:11:29
Wise words from Seamus Coleman:

"I don't think we should get carried away too early with negativity or whatever, " Coleman said.

"It's pre-season, he's getting to know us and we're getting to know the manager and I have to say that training has been great, his ideas have been good but we haven't taken that onto the pitch.

"Sometimes we need to look at the players, it always seems to be managers nowadays, but we need to look at ourselves and that wasn't good enough but we can't get carried away with too much negativity, it's still early days.

"I'm sure the manager will be busy, possibly, in the next couple of weeks to get his own type of players in and we need to make sure us lads who are out there, and in training, do all we can to impress him.

"I thought we did create a couple of things [against Rennes] but I felt that when we gave it away, one or two passes and they were in on our goal. He wants us to win the ball back quicker and we didn't take that onto the pitch and it's something we need to look at.

"It's disappointing, we're not hiding away from it and nobody is making excuses because you don't want to be losing games in pre-season but we've got to be a little bit calm and take a step back and realise the Wolves game is all important. ".

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{Ed025's Note - thanks for that jcl..

29 Jul 2018 10:30:13
We've had quite a few games in a short period of time so not much time for Silva to iron out the issues in training. That's why we are seeing the same mistakes game after game.

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29 Jul 2018 10:39:21
Agreed. all need to remain calm.

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29 Jul 2018 10:57:59
I am very calm. But whilst I accept what Coleman is saying, the signs are as I expected. Our main problem has been age and lack of replacing key players in defence. Cuco Martina and Ashley Williams were brought in as cover for Jags/ Coleman/ Baines. Neither of which are good enough. Keane was bought for no mean fee as the future. and so far has dissappointed. This is the root of our problems and the 6 players I mention form the basis of our back line with Coleman. Coleman is our ONE positive and shines out like a star. We have known this point has been coming since the days of Moyes and none of our subsequent managers coaches have instigated suitable replacements. We are talking about a Barcelona substitute left back with about 10 days to go before the season starts. Even if we sign him this week, that gives precious little time to bed him in. As yet all rumours about center backs continue. I hope against hope that Mason Holgate is going to be our saviour and has matured sufficiently to partner whoever comes in. I have banged on about Jags being too old at 36 and similar with Baines and Williams and was shouted down for being "negative"! This Premier League has the best players of the world in it. To expect a player like Jags to be able to continue is beyond me. Yes he was playing against a French team that finished 5th last season. Imagine how he will be against Giroud, Lukaku or even Firminio. especially if he has a strain or pull which only players who have played to that age will understand what I mean. This should all have been sorted over the last 4 seasons. Not now with about 10 days to kick off with a new management team.

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29 Jul 2018 11:07:23
Agree with ALL of that degsy BUT brands and and Silva been there at club assessing with their own eyes for 6 weeks. I'll be disappointed if at least 2 cbs come in. but am hoping that by end of transfer window will be much happier.

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29 Jul 2018 11:14:52
smit666. 'Thats why we are seeing the same mistakes game after game'. My Grand Son makes the same mistake game after game he gets a rollicking but In actual fact the lad does not make the same mistake game after game though. 'Professional' footballers should not make the same mistake game after game, unless of course that 'mistake' is what their coach is teaching them.

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29 Jul 2018 11:53:51
A couple more rollickings and your grand son will be perfect then and ready for the premiership. That is unrealistic.

Players however good they are can't just switch as a team from all out defensive play to high pressing, man marking to zonal marking.
That is just not how football and life works KTF.
They need to be trained to do it, and Marco needs time and personnel to do it with.

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29 Jul 2018 12:10:05
The point I was trying to make Smit666 is that if you are making the same mistake game after game 'the same mistake' (your words mate) , then something is wrong. I was a rubbish footballer but never the less played combined services standard (I assume you know what that is) , never quite good enough for my beloved Everton but like us all I had the dream. So yeah my Grand Son listens to me and he may make the same mistake again but never 3 times.

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29 Jul 2018 12:36:27
Some players work better under new managers, some just don't, some players have one season wonders, some just aren't good enough, what Silva needs to do, this won't be easy is let the players go, but every other club has seem them play, so it's not easy, so then it makes it harder for us to bring players in, or take a very big loss, which as a business isn't a good thing to do all the time, we seem to have good youngsters who are not quite there yet, couple of good players, under performing players, and players who ain't good enough, that's not a quick fix, no matter who you are, it could take a couple of seasons to straighten out the mess.

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29 Jul 2018 14:43:32
KTF a whole team can't learn a completely different style of play in six weeks. That is part of why we are seeing so many mistakes.
It has nothing to do with your grand son making 3 mistakes. Every game has different scenarios, patterns of play, opposition.
If your grandson has his eye on the ball and loses his man, are you telling me after the 3rd time he will never do it again ever!, because he will have learnt?
If that was the case he will be better than every other footballer because he'll never make a mistake again.
I'm sorry KTF but that is complete an utter twoddle.

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29 Jul 2018 10:05:40
Not havin a go at brands yet but a blind man can see wat we are missing right through the middle of the team is pace an power an players with recovering ablities so why are we looking at players like mina an gibson who are one paced slow players? The team is already full of players like that.

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{Ed025's Note - i think they know better than us ben mate..

29 Jul 2018 10:18:03
Mina is powerful and good in the air but yes he's not quick, as long as he's partnered with someone like holgate it could be a good partnership. We would need to sign another CB with pace though to create rotating partnerships.

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29 Jul 2018 15:04:37
I know ed they do know better than us that's why brands earning the big money not trying to be negative on him yet but seems obv to most fans were crying out for at least one maybe 2 players of the type of distin in his prime who could rescue us in bad situations but we seem to be lookin at same type of players we already have according to rumours anyway, we seem to have the pace on the wings an full backs but none at all going through the spine of the team.

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{Ed025's Note - hopefully that will be addressed ben..

29 Jul 2018 09:52:26
Not going to repeat everything being said re: patience and pre-season Vs league campaign, however pretty sure that manager and DoF knows our frailties BETTER than we do. turning those frailties around could be achieved over night with the addition of just a couple of the right additions. and there window is still open. and pretty sure that after last year's debacle of transfers the club will want to make sure they have made the right ones. not just manager and DoF but also the board. got to give them a chance.

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{Ed025's Note - very much so jcl..

29 Jul 2018 09:51:50
I think it's time to cash in on the likes of Schneiderlin, Keane, bolasie and Besic.
If poss move on Williams, mirallas and Pennington.
I know he is on big wages but from what I've seen I want to keep Sandro for at least another season. He can play along the front 3, maybe not as a certain starter but he would provide good competition for those positions along with Lookman. His passing and defending is better than Bolasies.
If true and Digne is done then 2 CB and a creative midfielder required at least.
Last season Silva got Cleverley purring whereas Schneiderlin doesn't look like he can change.
Let's get this done Silva.

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29 Jul 2018 10:50:43
I'd be very surprised if any kind of bid came in for any of those except maybe Morgan and Keane, we did have a deal.

I think you need a buyer as well as a seller. obviously not many are sniffing about and frankly with our results the last few seasons, who'd want any of em? Certainly not anyone who has money.
We couldn't even give Miralles away the last 12 month's, he's like a boomerang.

I fully agree we have a below average group of players on big wages and they all need to be sold on. Unfortunately this window was always set to be a nightmare. The English FA in their wisdom chose a world cup year to shorten the window, so we aren't welcome to participate in the real transfer merry go round.

What is it with this country? We seem intent on shooting ourselves in the foot.

Oi! FM! Get that defence sorted or we will be in direstraights again this Xmas. It's in a knife edge this next 2 week's. If he doesn't pull out some quality signings and fast, I'll be joining the miserable brigade and that's just unnaceptbale. He really is days away from a major catastrophe.

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29 Jul 2018 10:52:28
Ps just read Digne is waiting to see if any club bigger than us comes in before he settles on us. I know its a bowl of salt with the press but its not an ideal read.

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29 Jul 2018 10:59:53
Transfer window closes 9th I think Smit. They had better get busy to even offload a player from your list mate.

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29 Jul 2018 11:57:00
European deadline is the same as last year so we can still ship out abroad after our window shuts. That's one consolation.

I predict a fire sale on both deadline days.

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29 Jul 2018 08:39:00
Loads of people now getting a bit panicky. Posts about patience needed. Even posts now repeating what I have been saing for so long about the age of our defence and how slow it is. But remember that the games are preseason and the manager has chopped and changed every 45 minutes. I am not saying we will be ok because I dont. At best we will maybe get to 7th/ 8th. But I suspect that if we try and play Silva's attacking football with this squad, we will be stuffed by the top teams and confidence will slip away. So far we have seen that when we push forward, we seem to be unable to get back when the opposition breaks quickly. The counter attack just beats us so easily. We also seem very poor at defending set pieces. Isn't that what happened last season until Sam Allardyce was brought in to stop us leaking goals? Just a thought.

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29 Jul 2018 09:17:12
The difference this time Degsy is we have 2 guys trying to change things the right way.
I'm not panicking, well have a better idea of what our season is going to be on transfer deadline day.
Well also know a lot more about the 2 guys running the show.
This is their interview for the job.

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29 Jul 2018 09:56:03
I get what you're saying Smit666. The problem for me is that an interview might go wrong and we find ourselves in the Championship next season. I know and understand the anti Sam Allardyce feelings. I really do. But I think he understood the big defficiencies in our squad and did a job in halting the slide. Yes the football was dire. but for me. I would rather have dire football in the Premiership for a season or two whilst a rebuilding program goes on. the alternative being a club like Aston Villa, Newcastle Utd etc. ie in and out of the Championship and I believe that would kill us as a club. What happens if by half way through the season we are bottom 3 again? Do we call Allardyce again? Seriously though, this all should have been dealt with over the last 6 or 7 seasons. I know Moyes was not everyones cup of tea, but he left a balanced squad with some great players for Martnez. But then we bought and sold a shed load of players who all came and went with only Lukaku and Barry consistently performing over a few seasons. The rest fade into obscurity.

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29 Jul 2018 10:00:50
Good post Smitt mate, far too much negativity on here, as you say when deadline day has come and gone we will then finally know who our real targets are, until then as we keep saying no one has any real idea let alone the media circus who they are, so let the guys that do know I e Marco and Marcel get on with it,

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29 Jul 2018 10:28:09
Degsy Martinez and moyes are long gone, mistakes have been made but we just need to move on. Silva and brands are here, big Sam wasn't the answer he is only good as a fire fighter and cannot progress a team.
We have signed one player and for me he is an improvement, we look better going forward as well. Silva needs more time and pretty much a whole new defence but we already knew that. They have a plan and are going for the players they want and are not being deterred. A LB, CB and CM could make this team a different prospect.

We just need patience and to look forward rather than backwards.

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{Ed025's Note - exactly smit..

29 Jul 2018 11:56:35
Patience is fine Smit if there is progress. So far we have signed 1 player. Offloaded a few but still have so much to do. And the transfer window closes in 11 days. The season starts then too. The manager has stated it is a bigger job than he ever expected. Other teams have signed 4 or 5 players. Offloaded 7 or 8. We have done the offloading but as yet 1 signing. The club captain has stated that the players are not yet doing what the manager wants. We are conceding goals like we were last season at this stage. Defending set pieces poorly. Slow to get back when the opposition breaks quickly. So far no example of a high pressing game creating chances and looking good. Like I say, early days yet, but I see no evidence whatsoever that says we will do better than last season. I hope I am wrong.

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29 Jul 2018 12:20:44
We played most of these games with our 3rd choice keeper, I'm not sure he is as vocal at telling his defence there useless as pickford is.

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29 Jul 2018 08:19:39
It's a bit nieve to expect too much too soon, this bunch of players are either past it, hated and as many have posted simply not good enough. Can't believe some would even entertain selling pickford if we want to build this club he us a player we need to keep. It's going to take time to sort out this mess we are in let's give it.

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29 Jul 2018 07:07:26
If we sold Pickford, we would be weaker. I don't understand why some fans can't grasp that. But what if we bought him, him and him: no mate, we would be weaker.

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Review Of The Day 29th July 2018

29 Jul 2018 06:13:37
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 29th July 2018

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29 Jul 2018 04:55:38
Watching the ICC Barcelona CB Tottenham game and their young Brazilian CB Marlon looks a talent.

After having a quick search Southampton and west ham are rumoured to be in for him for around 13 mill.

Perhaps he would be worth looking at as the quoted fee is pennies by today's standards.

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{Ed001's Note - teams are put off because he is quite short for a centre back, apparently.}

 
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