Everton Banter Archive January 29 2015

29 Jan 2015 22:12:57
Right that's Mutch and Ameobi to score this weekend then. Comes to something when a team like Palace are looking to strengthen there ranks, and we just plod on blindly ignoring the bloody obvious. I pray RM is pulling a fast one and that he really has something up his sleeve or else we are in deep doo doo.

{Ed025's Note - dont bank on it woburn..

To be fair I don't those 2 players are strengthing palace. Would be poor signings for any premiership team in my opinion.

30 Jan 2015 06:02:43
HB I agree, I wouldn't want them either. The point I'm making is at least there looking to strengthen. And if they finish above us because of that, then that's one place we are nearer to going down.

No agree and will be incredibly frustrated if we don't sign anybody. I always book deadline day off work as well, don't know why because any deals we do are always last minute anyway.
It goes without saying that the 2 players aren't good enough for everton and in my opionion aren't good enough for palace's. So as much as I want new signing and we need at least 1 signing to pick us fans up and the players, I wouldn't want anybody in that isn't going to improve us.
I am by no means in the know, and don't have contacts as such but have heard we will bring in at least 2 players and pineaar to join moyes in Spain.

29 Jan 2015 20:50:31
Sorry Deloitte rich list. Bloody autocorrect. We are European 20th richest club.

{Ed025's Note - i think we all know what you meant ST..

29 Jan 2015 19:39:41
so after supporting this club for over 55 years, through a lot of good times but a lot more poorer, I am now informed by the genius that is our current manager that I am not a real Evertonian. My crime, I have criticised the team, and the Manager on quite a few occasions. Never mind, I will spend a considerable amount of money on Saturday, along with a large number of other not real Evertonians watching a team that I don't really support.
I've got two words Roberto and the second one is off.

{Ed025's Note - it does beggar belief GTB..

Seen that myself gosport but he must be missing something because the crowd has been dead since September, quite arrogant 4 sum1 doing so poor lately

Yeah and I suppose roberto is a real evertonian isn't he. If we go down he will just get another job like when he left wigan and we the fans will still be going the ground each week spending our hard earned money. Theman is losing the plot.

29 Jan 2015 18:37:41
I'm just waiting, (uncomfortably), for the article - "Why I left Everton" by Samuel Eto'o. I don't know if I want to read it or not!

{Ed025's Note - i was thinking exactly the same tezza....thats all we need..more mud mate..

29 Jan 2015 22:45:15
I say we need to hear it Tezza, if only so we know for sure what is happening behind the scenes at Goodison. If the players are not on board with RM then it may help to explain why we have been so poor so far this year. I want to know exactly how he operates away from the cameras and what the players really think of him and his methods. It won't happen though as I'm sure he would have signed some sort of confidentiality clause so he could get his move

I think the fact that we haven't heard anything from behind the scenes, for me, shows the team are still fully behind the management. These days its so easy to leak stories if there was some sort of massive unrest I'm sure it would've come out by now.

I can only speculate but I was surprised to see Eto'o taking the team talks on the pitch before games - he'd only been with us for 2 mins and maybe it put some peoples back up that he'd installed himself as leader straight off, it was quite a tight knit group before. Suppose we'll see if if performances suddenly turn around.

29 Jan 2015 15:53:48
There's a lot of Bobby bashing going on here which personally I think is a bit harsh.

We are top of the 'individual mistakes leading to goals' table(11) with basically the same team / defence as last year - No manager can do anything about that its down to the players.

We have had so many bad decisions go against us - Jordi Gomez not being sent off for that tackle on Barry. Baines taken out when clean through against Stoke, again no red, that penalty against Man City that has never been a penalty - just the first few that spring to mind - we've had some shockers this season. Not much luck with injuries too.

Take away the basic mistakes, get a few decisions going our way and the confidence will come back as we have some top quality players.

I agree it frustrates when we're losing against teams we were battering last year and Bobby comes out and says we played well. that's just him trying to keep confidence up. I just think he deserves a chance to turn it around, last year was the most enjoyable season I can remember being a blue since the 80's, it was no fluke.the table doesn't lie.

COYB!

{Ed025's Note - i admire your loyalty MM, but as you say the table doesn,t lie mate, we are in dire straits and something needs to change...starting with the gaffer..

This PL is a cruel but honest league, it takes no prisoners and leaves the weak and feeble looking errrr well weak and feeble

The point is we are now a mere shadow of last seasons team

The vultures and hyenas are ready to pick at our bones and survival is the name of the game NOT pretty no end result football!

That ship has sailed and is now awash with stormy seas.

I do love metaphors :)

{Ed025's Note - me too mate..

Nice to see some support, I understand results have not been acceptable but I believe a lot of people are just jumping on the band wagon. When things aren't going well we get reports off training ground bust ups etc everything gets blown up out of all proportion. There was no mention of half the stuff last season.

29 Jan 2015 16:46:37
Agree with some of your points Mike, we have had a lot of bad luck this season. However, the fact that RM refuses to change his style or system is the main cause for being in this predicament. I've said it before and I'll say it again, the best managers don't just play one set way. They have the nous to change things as the game goes on but RM is too stubborn to do this. The buck stops with the manager and, thus far, he has been as poor as the team. If results don't pick up in the next 3 games then BK has to get rid, our proud record of top flight football can not be put in further jeopardy

29 Jan 2015 22:26:09
Not in to bashing everton players or manager. but I think both sides of everton fans need to be pragmatic and realistic. For the haters. who do they want Bobby replaced with? All of the names banded about. have no credibility in the prem league and remain as much of a risk as Bobby represents now. However, at the same time, I read a post above that says (para phrasing) our demise is due to the players. Well in part yes. they kick the ball. However, I think Bobby is mainly to blame. Unlike many managers, he does not alter tactics to suite opponent, he plays players out of position simply to accommodate them ( ross on left wing), he maintains 1 lone striker, he maintains tip tap football at all costs, he maintains same formation, he makes substitutes far too late in games. I don't want him to be sacked, just want him to adapt and make decisions that those of us who go the game can see need to be made. and do it early in game rather than 15 mins to go. I also want him to give garbutt, browning, mcaleny. maybe even Henen a run. Come on Bobby stop being so predictable and stubborn

{Ed025's Note - if he was willing to adapt jclaff we would not be in this mess now..

I hear you ed. however, I also think that sacking now will not help. I wasn't all gooey eyed when Bobby signed. cautious in fact, but unfortunately we need to suck it up, keep making our feelings known at the game and hopefully change things around. big hope BUT it's all we have unfortunately

{Ed025's Note - i respect your opinion mate, even though i dont agree..

29 Jan 2015 15:48:06
It was William Congreve (not William Shakespeare, as is often mistakenly believed) who wrote, "Heaven has no rage like love to hatred turned, Nor hell a fury like a woman scorned."
Well, that's how I now feel about our club's current manager - and, I believe, how many other previous backers of RM also now feel - having been taken to the heights of expectation last season only to have those hopes cruelly dashed and definitively crushed by this season's performances and results.

{Ed025's Note - i have a message to our manager sid.."hell hath no fury like an evertonian relegated"....so pull your finger out!..

29 Jan 2015 13:53:08
To all posters/readers,
Please take note.

"So we are very much in a moment where we all turn to each other, from the fans, to the players, to the staff, to the board of directors to the chairman. We all are a really strong unit and are we are ready to get through this period and become a stronger, more determined football club and that's what you do when you face adversity in football."

Roberto Martinez

Robbie :

Didn't the bloke who led the charge of the light brigade say something on those lines?

{Ed025's Note - i think that was..."into the championship of death went the great everton"...or something like that mate.. :)

UTTER GUFF!

Words are cheap.
Results - and the points they earn - are what matter.
Improved performances - especially exciting, entertaining, expansive, attacking play, but also defensive solidity - would be a very nice bonus.
Silverware - and/or Champions League qualification - remains but an increasingly distant dream.
Dropping out of the Premier League - surely a financial disaster - is a nightmare that is at increasing risk of becoming reality.
The only determination that I see is RM's - his insistence on playing square pegs in round holes AND using tactics/formations that our current squad of available players just don't seem comfortable with AND him not finding a way to counteract how opposing teams so easily nullify us.

At 3pm tomorrow everyone will be 100% supporting the team as always, however at full time it remains to be seen if the manager has somehow turned our fortunes over the last weeks preparation!

{Ed025's Note - i will be supporting them on saturday as well wakka.. :)

"into the championship of death went the great everton".

Ed025:

I hear the sound of the cannons and they are getting closer :(

{Ed025's Note - i can hear them myself mate..

Wakka57: spot on - 100% support (a few groans notwithstanding!) during the match, but the fans are entitled to express their dissatisfaction and concern at the end of the match if the performance and/or result are unacceptable.

Spot on lads, 100% support as we always do.

P.S. Wakka, You made me drop one with that post mate, thought I had lost a day and forgot the wife's birthday, pure panic for a few minutes with visions of being the first eunuch to support Everton.

{Ed025's Note - love it wedge..

Sorry boys wishing the week away! but can't wait till Saturday and hoping Mr Martini will stuff my moans and discontent back down my throat with a large slice of humble pie . ?

{Ed025's Note - me too wakka..

29 Jan 2015 12:42:10
I my god, this is driving me crazy, we spend 25 million on a striker because everton want to progress as a club, RM brings in experience to help in the euros. Last year we looked great. But now we have started poorly it's like this season we have given up, so we can get ready for next year. As far as I know we are paying Chelsea 5 million a year. Everton is in the top 20 highest earning clubs in Europe where is all the money where is it all going. Is it for the stadium, is there massive debts we don't know about. So many question it drives me crazy. Let me guess more loans and no buys. If I had hair I would pull it out. I love my club but times well I am sure people feel the same.

{Ed025's Note - i think we all feel the same ST..

29 Jan 2015 11:17:03
I woke up this morning in a sweat having had a terrible dream, we were in the championship, Roberto Martinez was our manager and he was giving a press interview in which he said that despite our phenomenal performance that was full of energy and creativity, we were unlucky to lose 4-0 to Rotherham, and it was inevitable in this transfer window, we would have to sell our best players Mcelany and Browning to raise cash for new players, but our captain McGeady was here to stay!

{Ed025's Note - go back to bed wakka and have more positive dream please, like surviving on the last day of the season via on own goal..

Zzzz get in there Diamond that's us stayin up ;-)

Wakka57: I'm amazed you can sleep!

Sid its not been easy especially as I 've given up alcohol in January and had to watch us sober!

{Ed025's Note - i have packed in smoking wakka...supporting everton could be next on my list..

Bloody Hell, Flippin Eck, Crikey and I'll go't' foot of ours stairs etc.

Are there no 'Real Evertonians' on here?

{Ed025's Note - loads 247, but not happy ones, how can you expect them to be when we see our club being run into the ground?....i have always been an advocate of positivity mate, but i feel the time has come for us to be very worried about our premier league status..and yes it is that bad!..

Ed : I was having a pop at BK mate and I am extremely concerned that he and others cannot view the situation in its true vista, however negative it may be!

Tick Tock .

{Ed025's Note - sorry mate, i thought you were being one of the head in the sand brigade, who think that everything will be ok and that we are too good to go down, so my apologies 247..

29 Jan 2015 10:13:03
Roberto Martinez has reiterated in his press conference this morning that Everton are unlikely to dip into the transfer market to replace Samuel Eto'o. Martinez believes striker Arouna Kone, who recently returned from a long-term injury, has the ability to step into Eto'o's shoes

Eto'o 5 times African player of the year, 2 European continental trebles, Champions league winner .
Kone . used to play for Wigan .

Sums it all up!

{Ed025's Note - your depressing me now wakka...its all true mate, im just hoping for some positive news...heres hoping.. :)

Don't worry Ed025 we've got McGreedy on his way back from his sunshine break!

{Ed025's Note - i said good news wakka.. :)