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29 Aug 2013 23:40:02
Hey ed's is the barry deal a goer. And bobby said would like another. Any idea's on who with your contacts m8 {Ed013's Note - Barry looks a strong possibility, I am unsure if he is a back up in case McCarthy doesn't come in or whether both will sign}
29 Aug 2013 23:33:35
I will post again as the first one not put on! Barry is the biggest waste of space going! Slow no skill a basically rubbish! It's going to be a long hard season blues! Say what u want but I'm concerned!
Better than Leon Osman
This is not FIFA 13 mate, all 11 players do not need to be pacey and skilful, Barry is not the kind of player to sprint down the wing, skin 3 player and score, he is a ball winner who can play a pass to start and attack. He would be a good signing, especially with the state our current midfield is in
29 Aug 2013 23:19:52
I am conviced that moses and barry will arrive on loan. Also can see fellaini leaving for about £24m with marrone arriving as replacement. I think moyes knows fellaini is for sale, that's why he is coming in with low offers as we are going to sell before the deadline. We will play hardball over baines. Don't know of a contingency plan if he goes, maybe siquero (if still available). One more surprise signing will arrive late, probably a centre half
Robertcon
Not being funny but when we played juve marrone gave the ball away about 10times I don't know why people are so obssesed with him
29 Aug 2013 22:41:54
an interesting few days ahead.I hope BK does the right thing for our club in the same way Levy is doing at Spurs.We are told we don't have to sell, that we are in a strong financial position and that neither player has asked to leave. For those reasons and the fact that the Mancs, and their manager in particular, have behaved appallingly he needs to come out and make a statement defending our club and our values & principles.he has got to stop being Mr Nice guy.
Come on Bill.Time for leadership.
29 Aug 2013 22:07:54
just wondering who you all would like at everton out of the players we have bin linked with.?
Providing we don't lose anyone and assuming we have around £10 mill to spend I would take Barry on loan, Moses for £7mill or poss Defoe for £5mill & Diame for £3mill.
stewillow
Assuming we have 10mil is different from acctually having 10mil
29 Aug 2013 21:41:44
Considering me made so many early signings, not pleased that we haven't signed anybody else, I feel we have the money and SHOULD have added more by now
Oscar, simple really. money. got none. END OF!
29 Aug 2013 19:59:37
Ed could you clarify something with me, how much did we sell pienaar to spurs for and how much did we buy him back for? {Ed025's Note - he was sold for £3m...and bought back for £4.5m lee..
Thats levy for you. I admire how is handling the BALE situation.He will only do the deal when the its right for Spurs.
I hope BK does the same
stewillow
29 Aug 2013 19:41:13
really hope we don't get rid of big vic, I think he's better than kone and he would have made a bigger imact yesterday, we need another striker as it is so we can't afford to lose one
FACT, since 2005 to present day victors has played 131 games in all compitions and scored 26 goals. aroua kone played 296 in all compitions scored 113. since 2001.
29 Aug 2013 20:09:57
Sell them both and buy kevin phillips with the 2 million
Degsy
You hope we don't get rid of big vic he averages 3 goals a season. yes 3 goals a season this is not me saying this this is fact.
29 Aug 2013 20:52:50
at least kone has pace and can use his left foot whereas all vic does is get the ball barge the defender and score once every like 30 times he attempts it and the turning he does just slows our play down I've seen the titanic turn faster than vic
Kone, jely and vellios are all better than vic sell him and bring in someone like Hoisner who has a great scoring record in a weaker league and may be able to carry on that form
There stats in terms of minutes played prob are not that different, vic being used mostly as sub
29 Aug 2013 19:33:46
Hi ed and spurs fans everton fan here what's the deal with holtby everyone has forgotten about him on here and even more signings puts him way down the pecking order any ideas if he's for sale or loan would love him at everton
Thoughts
Thanks
Wasy {Ed025's Note - hi wasy, the spurs ed is unavailable mate, but he thinks he is surplus to requirement, and that his home page still has an everton crest on. so why not.
I asked this question On the spurs site .ED025...i know mate, i answered it as he was out..
29 Aug 2013 18:13:56
demba ba on loan anyone? {Ed025's Note - not for me..
29 Aug 2013 18:00:45
man utd fan posting in peace.
I think Utd have gone about these signings in the wrong way but all clubs have been victims like this in the past including united. All managers tend to go for players they rate like and trust your manager did the same thing with Kone and is trying to do with mccarthy. do you think martinez will try to get mccarthy for the best price he can or will he spend more of evertons money than he has to because he used to work for wigan? he got kone for less than his buy out we see benitez got reine on loan moyes is no different, I hope if everton do sell to united they get a fair price and that your manager will get most of the money to re-invest but to be honest i'm sure your chairman will sell at last minute so he does not have to give RM the cash. he did it to moyes nearly every window. I think the person you should be most upset with is the chairman if this happens not Moyes he is doing the best he can for his current employers. the same any of you would do and the same as RM is doing to wigan.
We have only bought 1 wigan player kone. Alcatraz was a free agent and robles was only on loan. Secondly wigan have cto sell being in a lower league. We don't need to sell but the fact is felliani probably wants champions league football and we would get a good fee and 70k a week off wage. As for moyes 95% of fans where happy with him. But he has disrespected us in a lot of ways This year.
Hi Ken
This is the same post that ruffled a few feathers the last time Manchester United put in a bid. I wish you would get your facts right and not try to apportion blame to Kenwright when the only people to have shown a lack of respect or dignity sit within the United camp. We will sell if WE want to sell not because you want to buy. We will act in a dignified and professional manner even if those around us don't.
Popeye
No disrespect intended popeye, I am not happy with the way utd have handled this I wish it could all be done behind closed doors it was the same for us when madrid wanted ronaldo and chelsea with rooney. no manager should talk about another clubs players. but they all do and the media frenzy fuels the fire. as I said IF you do sell I hope u get a fair price 38m + some add ons IMO and I hope your new man gets the opportunity to reinvest.
Ken the guys here have pretty much summed up everything, but what got our backs up is moyes hypocracy. in January Baines was a 20m player. now he is a 10m player. additionally he said efc should act in the players interests and sell them to man utd. same could be said when he handled lescott to city. and more recently Rodney's alleged request to leave. Yes he did a lot for Efc and the fans. but we did a lot for him. we stuck with him and appreciated his honesty and gentleman like nature. but secret meetings with saf and unsettling of our players public ally with below par bids doesn't wash well with us, and we would have expected a certain amount of loyalty still. he will get an awful reception at goodison and rightly so.jcl
I understand your point of view and respect your opinion. I think he will do a good job for Manchester United and I hope that you finish above your noisy neighbours.
At the end of the day most evertonians expected a bid for one or both of the players from moyes, what they can't accept is him saying himself there wortth more then making a bid the day before are first game that was clearly never going to get accepted.
It seems he made the bid to make them aware so maybe they would come out and say they wanted the move, either way unsettling them exspecially with his comment of holding them back. So now if he does come in with another bid he leaves us no time to replace them with decent players as there is hardly anyone around. don't try and compare how we have dealt with wigan in the same breath as he is dealing with us, 10 years service and within a month he's forgot the lot
MikeDeBlue
Ken. all jokin aside mate. good to have a logical debate with you.jcl
29 Aug 2013 17:17:27
Eto to Chelsea! . Leaves Ba, Lukaku or Torres free for a move?.
Also Moses left out of squad so he's off!,
Any worth an offer?
29 Aug 2013 20:55:05
i would get moses and the others are a big no no I would rather have jimmy carr if he was on crutches playing up front than have torres or ba and lukaku will still get game time there don't forget how mourinho loves his drogbas
29 Aug 2013 13:13:32
why don't we ask for hernandez into the deal for felli and baines, come on billy boy show them you are not a soppy dog who likes his belly rubbed and make it worth while.whats the chances ed? {Ed025's Note - he is for sale dazza, wages might be a problem though mate..
Anyone know what he's on I think it could be less than felli {Ed025's Note - £3.9m per year..
Its a good shout though ed - if hernandez is happy to warm a bench and take the dosh then good luck to him. otherwise he should wanna play and he would be a regular in our side. jcl
29 Aug 2013 16:39:04
if we apparently have money to spend why the **** are we being linked with gareth barry, after last nights performance and saturdays, I think we need a winger, another central mid fielder and a striker.and I think to get them we will have to sell baines an the wig.because I think we are all being lied to, we don't have to sell to buy, then were are the signings roberto an kenwright.
Rm has already said he's not spending money for the fun of it, and the prices for good players has just gone sky high, also he's looking for the right characters for our great club, have faith mate and get behind the players we do have
Prices for good players sky high? Eriksson going to spurs for £9mill? let's face it we have been proper left behind when we could of broke the top 4, the board are just greedy liars!!
9 million for essentially an unproven although very promising kid in the last year of his contract is high compared to the last two seasons actually. Eg Pienaar to spurs proven prem player who at the time was bang in form and the right side of 30, 3 mill because last year of contract. So there has been a huge jump actually.
Svenny
Your acting as if we've got no chance of top four with the team we've got, sounds like moyes, always knocking our chances before we actually see were we finish, if we don't make top four then we don't make but at least we wouldn't be putting ourselves in even more debt through buying players who are on scary amounts of money
We've absolutely no chance of top 4, nor top 6, not even top 8. Top 10 if we're lucky. Somewhere near the top half of the bottom half of the league 11-13th is a realistic finish.
With that we lose a few million in place money and slip further behind financially and our transfer dealings will be even less. This is the start of a long slide to mediocrity. Call me a doom and gloom monger all you like but this is the harsh reality.
Granville. {Ed025's Note - your a doom and gloom merchant..
Granville: fetch a cloth!
Im no doom and gloom myself but realistically i'd say were further away from it than last year. a push for top 6 at best I think
29 Aug 2013 15:51:56
I think man u and the press are trying to bully martinez!
Let's hope we tell them where to go seen a tweet this morning claiming to be Kev sheedy saying all the Everton players have lost all respect for moyes I hope this is true shows they care about the club
It appears to be the case, but I'm afraid both are gone. Which will be an absolute disgrace from our pathetic, spineless excuse of a board. The rug will be pulled out from under Martinez before he's had a chance to get his feet under the table.
What other top 6 side would sell their top goalscorer and most influential midfielder, together with their player if the year 3 or 4 days before the window shuts.
This should be the final nail for 'Arkwright' and the other shower
29 Aug 2013 15:31:14
well it wouldn't be a transfer window without the hotlby rumours doing there rounds, apparently spurs are willing to let him go on loan . ild personally like that
29 Aug 2013 15:17:15
Will be totally pissed off if we get Barry! No pace cart horse! We need young, pacey & skillfull players not players like him! Totally gutted if he signs!
Yeah let's stick with Osman instead hey
Spot on .ozzies the same a cart horse. we need young quick talented players.and before all the ozzie fans start getting on there high horse.did you him take the game by the scruff of the neck last night.i think not. ozzie ozzie ozzie out out out.
Go back to your own page Osman hater, historically speaking he won't get going for a few more weeks.
Osman for England.
30 Aug 2013 00:19:13
i ain't no osman hater he played well until the last few months of last year but he wouldn't get near a top four club and that's a fact, I wouldn't sell though gave a lot to the club and should be there as back up
"Osman hater". Dear me. He was absolutely atrocious against Stevenage. Wake up. He's past it.
29 Aug 2013 15:12:04
As if gerrard has said most the reds team who play Manchester United on sunday have played too much football already.we are 3 games in.its just age catching up with you stevie boy.instead of training they must be sat about eating pies and playing on there phones
29 Aug 2013 14:33:48
I keep on saying, "we already had an Aruna Kone clone." He is called Victor Anichibe. Except I think Victor is better. Last season he had displaced Jelly in the team on merit. So what do we do? Buy an almost identical type of player for 6 million, put him as 2nd choice and move the other to 3rd choice. All that will do is give Victor the hump, depreciate his value so that we get say 500k for him rather than 4 million and still have no improvement in the squad. I know you all seem to blame Moyes for everything including Syria, but so far I have seen no improvement in our squad nor performances and am VERY worried about the future. When we drew a few games last year it was Moyes' fault for being negative. Well you can't blame him now. Everyone told me we were going to see a much more fluid attacking system. So far I think we have played worse under RM. I guess I will continue to support RM but I am not a happy Blue. I am a very worried Blue.
Degsypulford
It won't happen overnite give him 10 to15 games.he wasn't my first choice but you have to give him a chance
There very different kone has pace and runs at people whereas vic uses his strength to turn defenders and plays with his back to goal
Degsy get a grip victors like a cat with a ping pong ball enough said.
29 Aug 2013 17:23:55
I recall a striker having a far worse start missing chance after chance for several games, his name was linker he didn't do too bad in the end. Only with you fellas he'd have been out after one game
You guys are completely missing my points. Victor was just starting to show some form. Last season he scored a couple of crackers at the end and was keeping Jelly out of the team. Now he is at best 3rd choice. His value was increasing with 1st team games and goals under his belt alst season. Now his value is decreasing rapidly.
Whilst Kone is not identical, he cost 6 million. Victor could have been sold for probably a good fee as soon as the window opened. That money could have been added to the 6 million spent on Kone and a real top quality forward signed. I am not saying Kone is exactly the same as Victor. What I am saying is we have signed a like for like player, then just pushed the other down the pecking order. I hope I am wrong and Kone turns into a world beater banging in the goals. But I think he will do a similar job to Victor scoring at most 5 to10 goals a season and at the same time completely pi**ing Victor off. Victor will fade away and we will release him for next to nothing at Christmas. ie 6 million down the pan that could have been better used for really strengthening the squad.
Degsypulford
If what you advocated came to fruition degsy, then we'd have been left with only 2 recognised senior strikers. And whilst Kone may be similar to vic he's far superior in every department, barring maybe strength, an attribute that vic doesn't use to his advantage enough. And do you really think we'd have got near £6m for vic? As I think we'd be lucky to get £600k.
Kone will prove his worth when he hits his stride, and his goals to games ratio, compared with vic's is far superior.
Kone is thrice the player vic is and ever will be, vic is nothing more than a championship level striker with the touch of an elephant and the goal scoring nous of an ageing Tony Hibbert.
Sorry degsy, my bad, you didn't say we'd get maybe £6m, you said maybe £4m. But my point about his value still stands, in that he's worth maybe a half million/ 1million at most. Add that to the fee we paid for Kone and is there really someone significantly better than we could've attracted? Last year it would have got us Benteke but those type of deals are few and far between
29 Aug 2013 14:27:08
After last nights game, seen a few positives, the balls Deulofeu was putting across the box were brilliant Jela would have loved it, I really think if jela was on the pitch last night it would have been a different story, Kone for me is a no no jela would have finished the chances he missed last night
29 Aug 2013 13:46:30
Talking to my geordie mate today, and he said they would give anything to have what we have. Last home game they actually went the whole match without a shot on goal. At least we are making chances. Give the team time, we all know that without investment Bla bla bla. So get of Robbies back, he is not the one pulling the purse strings. If he was I am sure we would have seen a lot more signings. As it is he has to work with what he has got.
29 Aug 2013 13:45:07
Has bainsey put a transfer request in, or is it just more journalist bullcrap?
29 Aug 2013 13:43:10
Warning to Bobby, if the powers that be tell you we'll do our signings on monday night be warned, 11pm will come and it will be all too late, and we've missed out again. oh dear. we'll have to try again in January. KK.
29 Aug 2013 13:33:07
I know that everyone has their price, so being a realist, would it not be possible for our chairman to put his name to the following, we have no wish or need to sell any of our top players, but, given the speculation over l/b and m/f, no offer will be considered below 20m for l/b or 30m, in the case of m/f. In that way everyone would know where they stand. Both players are under long term contracts, willingly entered into, and are in recite of more money per week than the vast majority of those who pay their wages earn in a year.
Don't announce a price for public knowledge. Its not like we want to - or even have to - sell to bring in money to cover annual running costs this time.
If and when an offer is made that RM & BK thinks makes sense on all fronts, then we'll see, but until then say nothing - or at least as little as possible other than complimenting the players for their professionalism and criticising a transfer window that doesn't close before the season starts.
BaronHardup
Players contracts mean nothing mate, they are purely signed for the club to get transfer fees, willingly signed shows no indication of how long a player will actually stay. Just because Barkley hypothetically signs a new 5 year deal does not mean he will be an everton player for 5 or even 2 years
Svenny
29 Aug 2013 20:50:29
svenny, although I agree that a signature on a contract generally menas nothing other than we could reap reward of a transfer fee for a player, I also agree with the poster stating we don't have to sell either. 2 prime examples are tevez and rat boy. both were sulking to get a move from their respective clubs, albiet tevez got his request eventually, but not until it was right for his employer to sell, and I believe the same will happen with suarez, but not until it is right of lfc to sell.
I understand we may not have the back up squad to freeze sulking players out the team and drop them into the abyss of 2nd string football, playing in front of 1000 fans or so per week in the reserves as city were able to, making an example out of him and literally shocking him to start performing again for the team to gain his move, I also believe both baines and fella understand the situation efc are in and how much we value each of them to our team and the impact it would have if they are sold in the next 2 or 3 days. Instead they may on a gentlemans agreement understand if we provisionally agree maybe a £45Mill deal for the pair to go through in January, giving RM suitable time to assess where we need to improve and find suitable replacements for the pair uptil then. I would be happier with that result if we were to sell the pair of players as it would give that time to RM, instead of maybe 3/4 days to find a replacement at inflated prices as well as the improvements we already need to make to our squad. What is everyone elses thoughts on this matter. CraigHuytonBlue
29 Aug 2013 12:54:06
We have 2 points. next games in PL. CARDIFF A. CHELSEA. H.WESTHAM. A. NEWCASTLE. H. MAN CITY. A. that's 7 games, almost 1/5 of the season gone, I'll say 8 points from 7. to get support from our supporters, Martinez should have min 12 from 21. 8 points or less from 7 games is relegation stuff, no matter how you butter it. let's hope we ain't there.
How much of your own money would you be prepared to risk on your predictions?
Happy-Camper
29 Aug 2013 13:11:20
Felli for Hernandez and 10m? Seems fair to me then sell big vic and get in McCarthy or Nanniggolan and Marrone on loan
Our chairman is really pissing me off .7 million we've spent and he talks about backing roberto and champions league football .i bet by the time the window closes are net spend will be under 5 million .even kenwrights biggest fans can't be happy this t
Not for me. Any other names?
Juve won't sell Marrone on loan. But let's see we get Marrone or McCarthy AND Nainggolan:
Howard
Coleman Jags Distin Baines
Gibson Marrone/McCarthy
Mirallas Nainggolan Pienaar
Hernandez
Sounds good to me.
29 Aug 2013 13:03:56
I feel for RM, Utd have the press on their side and are resilient in assisting them with disrupting felli and baines. I hope the reporter who came out with the story in the independent is taken to the cleaners for making up crap.
It will take RM time I feel sorry for him but he must have known that the clown that is our chairman has no money or backbone.
I will miss felli and baines but if we can get a decent left back we could get McCarthy moses and Barry and that woul be an excellent window for us. Barclay if he stays focused will become are most influential player along with gibbo.
Eric D
Baines is going nowhere my friend, GuernseyBlue
I agree. Osman doesn't fit with this new system
The chairman might have no money - comparatively speaking - but IMHO it's unfair to say he has no backbone.
Mind you, considering the amount of verbal kick-ins he gets from supporters like you it's amazing he has any bones left at all. Give him a break - no pun intended ;-)
Unhappy-Camper
29 Aug 2013 12:35:13
Does anyone have clue why rm playes ossie all the time, I do think the guy has been a valuable squad member over the years just can't see what he brings to the squad anymore.
Westy
Gibson injured might be why?
Who else you going to play there?
Quinny
It's early days in the RM work-in-progress, but Osman doesn't seem strong enough for a holding/defensive midfield role and also (a little surprisingly IMHO) is too inconsistent with his ball retention, passing, and goal attempts to be one of the attacking midfielders behind the main striker.
I imagine he's better suited to being a box-to-box midfielder in a more traditional (e.g. 4-4-2) formation. Unfortunately, his sell-on value can only be a few million at most these days, so that wouldn't generate much money for a replacement. But what do I know?
BaronHardup
Westy, it might be just me and you mate but iam mistified how he is in our team.
Make that three of us.
29 Aug 2013 11:44:36
How many pts did we take of WBA and Norwich last season I'm thinking it was 3 against WBA and think it was only 2 against Norwich so we can still take 4 of both this season so let's stop doom and gloom it's a marathon not a sprint and really the 2 pts could of easily been 6 and everyone would be saying Martinez is god it's how are style fares up against the top teams cause we won't be getting 60%+ against those sides but Martinez always put great displays against them sides look at fa cup where wigan destroyed us and man city and not forgetting previous season when they destroyed every single top team all but Chelsea which they should of won
29 Aug 2013 11:05:22
stop being negative! the guy has a plan, let him get on with it! all the media crap doesn't help! we are all feeling down with all the rumours and lies about our players! miss gibbo big time! bobby trying to play and hopefully things will gell! who could have done better with the squad he was left and the kitty available! 2 wins and still in the cup! his one start to the season is still a lot better than 90 % of the bog eyed rats! he's doing what we alled cried out for last season and the one before and the one before that in sacking the long ball getting it on the deck along with giving the young lads a go! theirs no easy games any more! norwich were flukey and couldn't get the ball of us! wba stuck everyone behind the ball rarely troubled us, and the woodwork saved them!loads of passing again, often with no end product but that will come! last night he made 8 changes giving the fringe players a go, and we are in the next round!get off his back!
2 draws I meant!
29 Aug 2013 10:43:15
If Kone's taps those 3 sitters in last night we walk home with a reserves team, and everyone would be praising the signing, the team play etc etc. unfortunately he missed all 3 and know the usual pessimists are out for blood. He won't miss 3 goals as easy as that again in his life let alone in one game. Calm down everybody.
Well said
Agreed, well said.
29 Aug 2013 10:10:41
Martinez is the most overrated manager in recent years. Smart money is on him being sacked mid season and Moyes returning after failing at Man Utd.
Tomo
I would call that a waste of money not smart money, moyes can do one the way he's behaved, time for new era and new style, give him time.ok et struggles to break them down yesterday but ithere were a lot of youngsters and grunge players and they park the bus
Wally first poster is obviously a red
Nope, Arsenal supporter here. Just thought I'd give my prediction, as unlikely as it may seem.
Tomo
Same tomo that came on the spurs page and called Lamela overated. the guy is trolling
So you are a red.unless arsenal play in a different colour.your opinion don't matter anyway.for a few seasons now wenger has looked like he just going thru the motions now.he got nowt new to bring to the team.he is tighter than a ducks arse too.wenger thinks he can sign players at half the asking price.then again at least flamini has returned on a free
Tomo: worry more about your manager and where your club will be heading when he leaves - and worry even more if he doesn't leave!
BaronHardup
Yes, I did comment on the Spurs page but no, I did not call Lamela overrated. Get your facts right matey
Tomo
Tomo: instead of being on our page why don't you go back to your own and strike up amazing conversation with other gooners about who else won't sign for your lot.
29 Aug 2013 10:08:02
We had 31 shots last night, we need to be more clinical
Not only do we need to be more clinical, but we need major surgery on our finances ;-)
BaronHardup
29 Aug 2013 09:57:28
Ed, official site says Martinez did not receive transfer request from baines, Gregg O'Keeffe also confirms this and confirms that no 38 mil joint bid has been received.
SO CHILL EVERYONE!
I cannot see why everyone is getting so wound up, if it wasn't for a couple of goal posts we could have atleast 4 points from 2 prem games and Robles had nothing to do last night.
We are about to give someone a pasting ed!
I havn't seen us knock the ball around like we are at the minute since the days of, tricky trev, brace, sheeds and reidy.
Am luvin the Martinez era so far, he is honest, intelligent and genuine. Seems to be very taken with our loyal support as well.
Even when lady luck didn't shine on us last night he still kept trying to pass the ball. Not once did we panic and start to hoof!
BOBBY MARTINEZ IS going to LEAD US TO THE PROMISED LAND!
Just be patient blues,
Barcelona wasn't built in a day.
jon b.
Totally agree we are playing the ball arpund better than ever and refusing to panic and resort to lumping it forward to bigwig, in time this will pay off, our tactics are much better we just need to be à bit more clinical in the box and its about tome lady luck shined on us
29 Aug 2013 10:46:04
I couldn't agree more am loving the way we are playing. Loving seeing the younger players getting a proper opportunity instead of the last 2 minutes.
those that don't like it do you really want return to the crash bang wallop of Moyes and round relying on knockdowns and launching it from the fullbacks
Great shout Jon b.we should have won about 5-1 last night.I was impressed with Ross, Stonesy, Ged but I have to say I thought Naismith & Osman offered very little.
I don't want to destroy them for the sake of it but I just don't see what they bring to the team.
Ossie should be a bit embarrssed to be totally outshone by young Ross and equally Naismith by Ged.I wanted RM from the outset and I am confident he will get it right for us.We need to trust him and support all the way.
Like he previous two posters i'm loving the new style of play, and all those saying it's boring just don't have a clue as they have seen nothing but hoofball for the last 20 years, for me its not the players that need educating it's the fans as they have come to accept hoofball as the norm and everything else is alien to them.
It's not that it's boring, it's ineffective when it's played at a snail's pace around the back allowing teams to regain their shape and get men behind the ball.
It's too predictable and will not work with the players we currently have. There's no cutting edge there and very little pace. You can't teach an old dog new tricks especially when they're not your dogs.
B-wise
B-Wise, Congratulations as you're the only Everton fan who has got it nailed down mate.
Your so money Supermarket you don't even know it .
29 Aug 2013 09:55:16
It's too early for people to criticise and doubt Martinez's ability. I think people are jumping the kalashnikov.
29 Aug 2013 09:36:39
people having a go at martinez already, we all know this season is going to be totally different and we need time to make it work. on another note, how many times did we start off terrible under moyes, always losing in early league cup games and some awful performances at home against really poor teams, let's get behind roberto and give him all the support we can, coyb
I can remember a couple of seasons ago there was three games where a team had no shots on target and we were in two of them, surely even if we don't win to have 20+ shots in a game and draw is better than no shots and lose like we did under moyes.
29 Aug 2013 09:27:22
Had enough of Football now. last night was the last straw
We will do nothing this season with this manager and the crap he has brought in
Felli and Baines thanks for your service you leave with my blessing
Cricket is now a more exciting sport and certainly value for money
I am willing to sell my season ticket for £100 (Top Balcony) any takers?
With this money I will buy tv HD and watch cricket, golf & tennis
So long Football so long my beloved blues. Finally eaten itself!
Great post mate I agree with you
Kone looks like the singer from Yazz and the plastic population and unfortunately for us plays like her
We will end up with yet another ex wigan player in McCarthy while our so called nearest rivals (spurs) are building one of the nest squads in the league
If bale is worth £95m then surely Felli & Baines have got to be at least £50m?
I'll have it. 2dog blue
The Yazz comment is the funniest thing I have heard in ages. Can't stop laughing.
Forgive the cheese but after last night performance. The only way is up.
Sorru
Toffee ace
So you would rather watch Neville hoof it up the pitch in the hope that we get a lucky knockdown. Sell your ticket and go and support Stoke mate, they would be just perfect for you.
29 Aug 2013 08:53:17
I've never seen Kone as the last man, twice at Goodison for Wigan I thought he played more as an attacking midfielder, just my opinion but he's definitely not an out and out striker.
29 Aug 2013 08:24:26
after last nights performance its there for all to see we need quality in the middle of the park especially WHEN fellaini goes, gibson injured osman av said for years is rank rotten .
people moaning about kone and making naismith the scapegoat get a grip, kone just off of month fasting take him few weeks to get into shape, naisy been really good since pre season get off his back
id like to see (hopeful)
marrone loan
moses loan
hernandez loan
radja naingollan buy
and if fellaini goes spend it on aldereweild and eriksen both ajax
Exactly MR KOP. It's all about the manager, over 38 games, yes u can go on a cup run. but the bottom line is the premiership and Champions league. we were knocking on the door of CL for a few seasons, ready for it to open. this fella can't even find the street, never mind the door.
FELLANI. fasts. NASRI . fasts. YAYA and his brother . fasts. DO ME A FAVOR.he is rubbish, don't use that as an excuse.
29 Aug 2013 10:08:53
Fasting should never be an excuse:
While fasting from dawn until sunset, Muslims refrain from consuming food, drinking liquids, smoking, and engaging in sexual relations
They still eat, drink, have a cig and get there leg over, just not during the daytime
Fasting should not be an excuse at all for any athlete. I work with people who fast and this is in a factory on 12 hour shifts during the day, they seem to manage so I am pretty sure a couple of training sessions and a match every Saturday should not be a problem, it's a hard life being a footballer as we all know.
Also I slated Kone when we got him stating he is not good enough for us at all and is pretty useless and lazy, enough said, hope he proves me wrong.
Give Bobby some time, well at least until Xmas
Onwards and upwards I say, hopefully
Degsy
Don't forget he hardly had a pre season too, so stop with the blame will you.
29 Aug 2013 08:19:23
As a red I hope we get baines and curly, the way the bidding is going and the tatics being used by United are not great. In the past you would not know who United were getting until they stood on the pitch with ferige, I don't like the way things are going, although as I've said before, that's life with football sadly. It goes on nowadays and each club is as guilty as the other, its just annoying when your club is the victim as you are finding out now.
If I was an Everton fan, I would be more concerned about the new manager. I simply don't get the fuss he creates and in my opinion, he is out of his depth at a club as big as Everton. I hope I am wrong as I have always had a soft spot for Everton but I can't see him doing anything, he nearly took Wigan down each season he was there, last year he finally succeeds and then he gets the Everton job?
If I was an Utd fan, I would be more concerned about your new manager. I simply don't get the fuss he creates and in my opinion, he is out of his depth at a team like Utd. I hope I am not wrong as I have always hated UTD and think they are made for each other.
Moyes is a Marty Feldman look a like
and is very sly with it.
stewillow
Wenger took a team down once, Klopp took a team down once and i'm sure they had not won anything by the time they arrived at the clubs where they made their name at, so what's your point exactly?
29 Aug 2013 08:11:53
I know that myself, Ed25 and the majority of the posters on here have a difference of opinion on the positives/negatives of selling players as I believe it doesn't necessarily have to be a negative if done properly.
On this subject though a question? bearing in mind that there is no money available from Bill or the Board. How do people expect to improve the squad if we don't if we don't buy low and sell high?
I'm not saying it's ideal, but clubs have achieved success using this method? Valencia are one that springs to mind.
If anyone can come up with another viable option of improving the current squad in our current situation I'm all ears.
If I knew the answer to that, I wouldn't be telling it on a fans' website - I'd be using it to be a successful, high-earning, football manager/coach ;-)
BaronHardup
Easy. Stop being ing so rubbish at trying to maximise our revenue stream.
We get 5million a year revenue from our shirt deal with Nike. Others in our league get 10 times that. Even Swansea get more. But then again they have won no titles, no fa cups and no European cups.
How can we possibly expect a solution on the pitch when this is our best off it!
We are a marketing embarrassment
Toffee ace
We get £3.1m a year, not from Nike, (who we don't get a penny off) from kitbag. Swansea and WBA do get more. One gets £4.5m, the other around £5m. All the figures were shown during the recent EGM
So they are actually worse than I thought. Great
Toffee ace
Yes, ace, it's pitiful. Aston Villa get £15m from some third rate kit manufacturer.
And we signed a 10 year deal with kitbag and still have around 6 years left on a deal we can't renegotiate.
Commercially we're being left behind big time and before long it's going to catch up with us and reflect on the first team squad.
We need investment from somewhere pretty soon or our future looks bleak.
29 Aug 2013 08:13:22
to follow up Big Nev's shout the other week .
Naismith . EFC's very own Forest Gump! . run Forest run! .
Osman . we have a new kit man
and as for Kone' .??
29 Aug 2013 08:05:26
I know my football. been watching EFC since 1970, seen everything. and I got lambasted on here for saying . "employ a relegated manager you get a relegated mind set from him", they are winning managers, MARTINEZ is not one of them, I promise you this, by the time we come up against MAN CITY in 5 weeks time all those on here, will be eating the stick they gave me. Last night was RUBBISH, KONE is worse than BECKFORD ever was, and he was bad. And all Martinez was doing post match was complaining about the transfer window, not our shameful performance, if we lose felli and baines, it gets 100 times worse. I know, you know, Marinez knows. and we're is "champions league KENWRIGHT?. the silence is deafening. it's a good job palace are in this league, there's 1 spot.
29 Aug 2013 08:21:38
i cannot be bothered to start talking about how we have better players than wigan and all because it has been done to death so once this season is finished if we struggle to stay up or get relegated I will say sorry and run to your house with a cookie but when we don't struggle to stay up and when we don't get relegated don't come on here saying we got lucky or we are doomed or you're sorry so if we struggle to stay up or go down I will say sorry and sing your praises for a month and defend you no matter how silly your posts are but when neither happens and we are sat nice and comfy above the relegation zone I would like you to keep your future thoughts to yourself for your own sake you sound like mike if he went off his happy pills
So you know your football?
How many games did you play as a professional? How many medals have you got? When did you get your coaching badges? How many teams have you managed and at what level?
I don't doubt that you're a dedicated long-term fan who's seen a lot of football and formed a lot of honestly held opinions, but that doesn't make you an expert. I've been supporting Everton for fifty years and I'm still learning about football - and I'm still full of optimistic anticipation, despite all of the heartaches and disappointments over the years, for what Everton's future might hold. Still, each to their own.
Happy-Camper
29 Aug 2013 01:04:10
Fellaini deal has already been agreed for a fee of 23m rising to 25m and after baines has asked to leave they will be in talks over a 16m pound move so reality is blues we need to try and find replacements, here are some potential targets -
Tom ince Blackpool 8m
James Mcarthury wigan 10m
Alex Sandro 5m Porto
Luke shaw 10m Southampton
Claudio yacob west brom 4m
Jonathan does santos 6m Barcelona
Alessandro matri juventus 8m
Carlos vela 10m real sociedad
Borja Valero 7m fiorientina
29 Aug 2013 14:26:35
I reckon Luke Shaw would be a great signing. Pretty cheap. Good now and has bags of potential. Also already knows the league. If Fellaini goes we need a player like Honda who creates and scores.
Pecko
29 Aug 2013 00:43:06
Fancy being unbeaten after three games! Disgraceful. Martinez out!
29 Aug 2013 00:35:14
Tbh I thought naismith had an ok game. Kone awful osmsn poor.
29 Aug 2013 00:32:29
get a grip, you all sound like a bunch of old women! moan all you want but you all have short memories! the lad has been in charge for 3 games! 2 draws and a win. it will take time to tune in his ways! he's not magic! the only downfall is what he sees in kone! he's proper proper garbage! as bad as naismith! but he's giving the young lads ago and trying to play a bit of footy! pitty its with most of the players the bog eyed rat brought to our club! we are everton! the peoples club! gert a grip and give the new boss a bit of teething time!
Well technically 3 draws, 2 home games one against stevanage hardly the best of starts
29 Aug 2013 00:24:43
Just read bobs post match interview on sky. got to admire the guy. he repeats. "there is nothing to tell. if we do well tell the fans", he also admits that they are looking to bring in 1 or 2 more new faces before deadline. without selling (that bits inferred from what he stated). So please fellow blues. chill.jcl
29 Aug 2013 00:06:22
38 million for felli and baines? Bye bye :-(
28 Aug 2013 23:38:16
Up side to the moans on tonight performance the passion we have as fans is obvious and there to see. the down side is the arguments are mundane and slightly irrationale. not only do we have a new manager playing a new system etc, but we also have a manager playing guys who haven't been playing regular football. including youngsters that last year people were slamming rat boy about for not playing. Tonight, bob did the right thing. he gave all of the fringe players a run out. gave kone a run out(who won't be match fit and no doubt after fasting for 1 month will have lost muscle and endurance. I see guys I work with doing Ramadan. they only sit at their desk and they are knackered during and after Ramadan). no doubt the change to the team would have upset the regular first team players in as far as the match sharpness and the understanding they have with the usual suspects wasn't there. With the fringe players. We had over 30 shots, a handful on target and 2 in. not great conversion rate. but give the man a chance to find out which system with which players works.stop thinking with your hearts and more with your heads. if it looks the same in 2 months time then we have a problem. but right now I don't see the fuss. especially when we can't splash the cash like other clubs. we have to make the best of what we have and bob is trying to figure that out. Jcl
Post of the night.
28 Aug 2013 23:12:51
Does anyone else think we should go in for Lukaku, if Chelsea get Eto tomorrow as rumoured?