Everton Banter Archive May 28 2015

 

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28 May 2015 23:26:40
Hello ed, not Everton related, but with sepp blatter and FIFA corruption scandal, do you think it will have a nock on affect to all the so called big leagues around the world?.

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{Ed025's Note - the only effect will be a positive one daz, if it cleans up its act it will be a boost for all the leagues mate..

28 May 2015 23:36:52
Disgusting man that he is, football would be a lot better without him.

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29 May 2015 07:49:06
He will still get voted in today though mate, corruption rules

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{Ed025's Note - i think his time may be up murf..

29 May 2015 08:07:44
I can't believe he is still running for election. That much scandal at an organisation should always result in the head of it to fall on his sword.

All will benefit when he has finally gone.

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{Ed025's Note - i agree john..

29 May 2015 08:49:34
600K+ a year doesn't have to buy anything even his beers and fags are on FIFA,

Fancy a job any one?

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29 May 2015 09:19:57
Blue247

That is his basic salary too mate, maybe he has secret accounts like the other lot arrested, say perhaps in the Cayman Islands

How the FBI have found no proof of corruption with him I don't know, must have a very shrew accountant indeed. I think they be knocking on his door very soon though because you don't escape those guys

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29 May 2015 13:51:30
I think he will be found guilty of corruption. It makes sense to take the pawns before check mating the king.

If you have evidence and then also people involved pointing the finger, he then becomes the ultimate prize and easier to take down.

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29 May 2015 14:16:15
BlueJohn

Hopefully the FBI have a deal to offer one (if not all) of the people already arrested and some constructive finger pointing can put this anathema of a President away .

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28 May 2015 19:07:22
Just had a read on Toffeweb and the stick Bill Kenwright is getting is bang out of order. People expect him to sell the club for 80 million pounds to any rogue. I hope he has a change of heart though and sacks the phenomenal Roberto, the football has been dreadful this season and can't see it changing much next season with the Catalan in charge.

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28 May 2015 20:13:04
Yes why sell the club for 80m (which isn't much is it) when you can sell it for 200m and get it right in his pocket. Yes bill. What an evertonian you are.

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{Ed025's Note - hes just another of your hate figures swan..

28 May 2015 23:00:23
Hes also a hate figure of a lot of other evertonians ed. but i'm not jumping on the bandwagon, as, to be fair, the support is split down the middle for him. For me as a fan i'd like to see us go places, not the championship which we will be in soon unless there is something done about the stadium. i'm sick of (like most fans of clubs like us are) this inferiority complex and being happy with mediocrity.

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{Ed025's Note - i agree about the stadium mate, but we have to be realistic, we cant compete at the highest level im afraid..

28 May 2015 23:16:22
I understand that ed but surely trying to sell us for 200m (10x what he paid), piled on with debt, stadium issues and the need to improve the squad is a silly amount to ask for when trying to sell a club. We are at a terrible point though I reckon, we need a new stadium for investment but need investment for a new stadium.

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{Ed025's Note - its catch 22 as you say swan, but for me BK is a top bloke who bleeds everton and does not want to sell to any tom dick or harry, if someone is only willing to pay buttons for the club then they will not have the clout to improve it a great deal..

29 May 2015 08:28:46
Lets face it only a billionaire can change our fortunes, £80m to buy the club, then how much more to build a better team £200m then develop the stadium or build a new one? that's the problem he faces, Just £80m and no more leaves us nowhere.

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29 May 2015 09:23:31
They should redevelop Goodison Park, it can be done. Anfield is getting redeveloped. A decision needs to be addressed soon because I don't think the stadium will pass it's safety test soon it's that bad, look at the roof situation earlier this season.

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{Ed025's Note - im afraid it needs knocking down alan, to try to revamp it would be throwing good money after bad as the infrastructure around the ground is not good enough mate..

29 May 2015 09:47:32
Damn it's so frustrating, GP needs demolishing but we ain't got the cash for a new stadium. Sorry state of affairs at the moment, thanks for the reply ed have a great weekend.

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{Ed025's Note - you too mate..

29 May 2015 13:59:21
We all know the stadium is the issue. It's not all doom and gloom over the ground move. We are just being cautious and managing expectations.

As for the amount he is selling the club for. You are just guessing at £200 mil and plucking figures out of thin air. In any case he can sell it for anything he wants. He's invested millions of pounds and thousands of hours into the club. We just go and watch them of a weekend then bitch and moan on here for the rest of the time! What right have we got on how much he asks for.

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{Ed025's Note - fair point john..

28 May 2015 16:17:32
Talking to my mate who is an Arsenal fan earlier. He seems to think Wilshere is better than McCarthy, which I completely disagree with. And furthermore, he has the cheek to say that McCarthy wouldn't get in the Arsenal team. Just wondered what some of you thought about the whole Wilshere vs McCarthy debate.

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{Ed025's Note - its not even a debate KO, i edit the arsenal site and most of them really rate mccarthy, im afraid jack has been a perennial under achiever mate..

28 May 2015 17:04:33
Think its well known how much I despise arsenal so I will keep it nice as possible. Wilshere isn't overrated or someone who never reached his potential. He is, in fact, awful. Heres why, here is what wilshere does, he sprints forward 5 yards (with his tongue out, god knows why) and passes sideways then keeps running with his tongue out until he runs into someone. He then, if the player is smaller than him, will act hard and square up to him. If not, like he did with barkley, yacob, dembele, kompany and huddlestone (thats not me exaggerating either, he literally flapped it off each of these players) he will stay down and act injured, sometimes he is injured. But the whole running 5 yards thing? According to 'experts' like keown he is 'creating space' and is a world class player because of it. Now let's compare, passing, like I said, wilshere 5 yard passes, genius, oh and if you want to mention that pass he did when arsenal beat someone 3-0 or whatever (i can't remember who against) then please do, darron gibson did that same pass on his weaker foot whilst falling over against tottenham. Mccarthy's passing is good and accurate, not paul scholes esq but good. Tackling, not up for debate, mccarthy is an incredible tackler. Energy, haha, mccarthy runs the london marathon before and after games if he wanted to. Strength, mccarthy is a strong lad (ask aaron ramsey whom he put on his arse last season) and wilshere got pushed over by steven pienaar. Pace, mccarthy is quick, wilshere is quick, over 5 yards. Sort of even but wilshere is a cocky and arrogant guy so i'm going to give it to mccarthy for that reson. They are in dreamland if they believe jack wheelchair is even in the same universe as mccarthy. Read daily mail comments by them on bellerin, try to contain laughter. Here is one I will quote, the persons name is 'giroud sucksss' and he said the following (to 300 thumbs up, arsenal fans love a vote) 'hector bellerin is already the best full back in the premier league and will go on to be the best right back of all time, he is much better than phillip lahm, dani alves and zabaleta'. Its no wonder they were voted most deluded fans in the league. It would kill me if players like stones went there. I would rather he went to city or chelsea than arsenal. As they would add it to the list of players they (didn't) develop like ramsey, walcott and oxlade chamberlain. I wouldn't take any notice what they say mate.

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{Ed025's Note - you never have a nice word about anybody though swan, arsenal are my second team as they are a proper club and play football the right way, and i can tell you their supporters are quality on here as well mate..

28 May 2015 17:38:36
Hey no doubt, I think every clubs supporters are class on this. They have always been in the same bracket as utd fans in terms of picking and choosing which players they want (as though they will definitely get them) and act as though the world owes them a favour. Every fan is biased towards their club but arsenal fans take it to the extreme, I mean, giroud better than suarez and aguero? Bellerin already better than lahm? Or my favourite, coquelin better than toure and matic? Come on. If their your second team then that's fine, I just don't like them, from their fans to their players. Very unlikeable bunch imo.

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28 May 2015 17:40:57
I am sorry Ed025 but Tikatak football is not the right way! especially in the premiership, if it was, Arsenal would win the league every year.

It is boring and tiresome. Football is about getting the ball into the box and creating chances, Not overworking it then losing the ball.

The reason we where so good in the first 6 months of Martinez's reign was we still played with Moyes's defence and tempo, and slowly Martinez beat it out of them!

Anyway Wheelchair (made me laugh Swanny) wouldn't make it passed McCarthy Barkley Mirallas or Besic/Gibson, and I agree! I would not like to see our kids go to the graveyard of young English talent

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{Ed025's Note - they do play a type of tik-a taka SDS but its with pace, not like the passing backwards and sideways that we have been doing mate..

28 May 2015 20:45:27
Although I do believe he is slightly overrated, your assessment is a bit ott Swan. The lad has got talent, we have all seen it in a game or two. The problem he has is with injuries, he will never be able to showcase his real talents if he can't get enough games to become consistent. With regards to their fans, each club is the same. All have reasonable people as well as the idiots, Everton has got both too.

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{Ed025's Note - your right spud..

28 May 2015 21:01:23
Personally think Wiltshire is a cracking little player, his problem is he's prone to injury. As for him and Macca, I would love to see them play together, (for us of course) think they would be a great partnership.

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28 May 2015 23:03:23
of course every fan has those types of people spud, its just I don't see too many of those fans of chelsea, city or hell even liverpool. With arsenal and utd its the majority (that I know about, not saying the majority of the arsenal fan base is like that). As for wheelchair, we will have to agree to disagree, he's in a similar bracket to rodwell for me (who I've spoken about before) in the sense of I don't know what it is he does, like cleverley.

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29 May 2015 09:48:39
Sorry Swan I have to disagree, IMO Wilshere when he had a run of games did look a good player but as he plays for the Arse and is always injured its a mute point what we think. As for Rodwell he did look like he may have developed into a decent CB would IMO would have had to stayed with us to reach his potential but he didn't. I do agree with you on Cleverly though. let's hope he signs for Villa as Sherwood like him.

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28 May 2015 09:39:15
Please please RM go and get J.Hernandez aka little pea would get him at bargain price and would be a great alongside Lukaku in my opinion

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28 May 2015 09:57:51
Please dont

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28 May 2015 10:15:20
I posted last year little pea, Bolasie. Going to Spain I understand. But those 2 in our ranks I still believe would be cool.

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28 May 2015 14:18:41
Why would Hernandez be a bargain price, he was good enough for Real to take on loan? and Pardue rates Bolasie at £30m lol

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28 May 2015 14:44:40
Dont get the hype over hernandez. Poor first touch, can't beat a man, most of his goals involve rooney smashing the ball at goal and it hits 'little pea' on the knee and goes in.

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28 May 2015 15:42:47
He knows where the net is and if you look at his conversion ratio you see it's better than most and reason why I say bargain probably be around 10million mark which is a bargain considering what you need to pay for someone else who is likely to cost more like Austin or inges

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28 May 2015 17:06:34
conversion rates mean squat. he's done zilch at real and was behind welbeck under 3 different managers. Doesn't suit our play style. END OF, GOD! Joking, in all seriousness I would rather we got austin than him.

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28 May 2015 20:48:31
He's played second fiddle at Real to far superior players, although he did score the winner in the CL derby v athletico. Does seem to score goals when given the chance.
Conversion rates obviously mean something, if he's nott converting then he isn't scoring!

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28 May 2015 23:13:31
lukas podolski had the best conversion rate 2 seasons ago, he couldn't get a game for arsenal when giroud and walcott were injured. How many of his goals are tap ins or deflections. i'm not moaning i'd love a striker who scores 30 tap ins a season rather than 10 wonder goals. He has always been awful as a starter, good sub but not a striker who suits our play style. He scored 7 goals in 23 games at real madrid. that's less than a goal every 3 games. At Utd he averaged just over a goal every 3 games. At guadalajara he averaged under a goal every 2 games. There must be a reaseon he is always on the bench (like dzeko) and has been dropped from the mexico starting xi for giovanni dos santos for the last few games (including the world cup). I don't know, just not keen, someone who suits are style and is a better player are players like loic remy (who will leave chelsea in the summer) and charlie austin. Can't be any worse than some of our recent strikers like jelavic, kone and anichebe though.

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29 May 2015 17:01:47
Wiltshire is a good player but not great and nothing more than we have already got.

Hernandez I don't rate but I'd take him if he's cheap. He's better than what we have aside from Rom but he won't be wanting to play second fiddle to anyone, so can't see it.

As for Austin/Ings, they have only had 1 season in the top flight. Austin went a number of games without scoring and I think he will struggle. The same for Ings but he looks like he's signed for the red lot anyway.

What's Paul Dickov up to?

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28 May 2015 03:35:33
Glad this season is over now and hopefully we have more to cheer about next season. As fans we cannot expect every season to be great but the entertainment factor has been nil this season. 3 nil nil draws at home this season and 6 out of 19 games at home we haven't scored a goal. Overall 11 out of 38 games we haven't scored a goal. I was actually bored during the spurs game, granted we had nothing to play for, however the players should remember we have paid to be there. 2 new wingers and a centre forward at least needed over the summer we need to add goals to the side because mccarthy barry osman besic mcgeady barkley kone gibson do not score regularly. Naismith has not been getting a game mirralas scores in fits and starts and lukaku has two goals from open play in the league this calender year. Our players also need to learn how to cross and when to have a shot at goal rather than pass it sideways and backwards. If these problems are not addressed in preseason I fear next year will be worse than this one and our transformation into wigan will be one season closer.

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{Ed025's Note - im glad its all over as well sean, but i cant wait for next season, as i really miss my footy bets mate.. :)

28 May 2015 11:54:46
Me too ed every week i'm certain my accumulator will come in.

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28 May 2015 13:26:24
Nail on head with our crossing. Baines, Coleman and McGeady are the best crossers of the ball we have.

Before you start raging at my McGeady statement he is a good crosser but is terrible, just terrible at everything else. Goes past people all of the time but then decides to do it all over again and again and again. Then his passing to a team mate from anywhere under 3 feet is abysmal. How can this be for a professional footballer!

Anyway, I can already feel myself becoming angry with him, two wingers I think we need who thinks about the forward and does the basics right but I want to see real quality that takes us up a level and may mean good money being invested.

Need to and take some Valium and calm down now.

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28 May 2015 14:46:16
Coleman a good crosser john? don't think I've ever seen him put a ball in the box. He always launches it out for a goal kick or straight into the keepers hands. They very rarely stay in play.

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29 May 2015 08:28:52
Swan, no matter who anybody talks about on here you are going to disagree and say they are rubbish. The only player I've seen you have anything good about is Garbutt. You're one miserable g. person.

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28 May 2015 02:42:47
I thought I'd look at the League Table in a different manner, for what its worth.

Pounds per point. I simply took the reported total wages divided by points achieved. I know the wages spent is only a part of the equation, but it can give some perspective.

I suppose the "winner" gets the most points for the fewest bucks.

1. Burnley: 0.65 million pounds per point
2. Swansea 0.85
3. Leicester City: 0.89
4. Southhampton: 0.92
5. Crystal Palace: 0.95
6. Stoke 1.12
7. Hull City 1.24
8. West Ham 1.36
9. Everton 1.47
10. West Brom 1.49
11. Tottenhem 1.57
12. Sunderland 1.82
13. Aston Villa 1.82
14. Newcastle 2.01
15. Chelsea 2.21
16. Arsenal 2.22
17. Liverpool 2.32
18 QPR 2.51
19. Man City 2.59
20. Man U 3.04

Okay, if you ignore QPR and Swansea and Southhampton. suprise! The more you spend on wages the better you chance of a finish.

I would do a fancy linear regression or calculus, but I left that textbook 25 years ago.

I draw nothing else from this but spend wisely and a little more, you're chances are better. Spend like drunken sailors (yeah I'm talking Liverpool and QPR) you may not get the results. Cheap did not help Burnley.

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28 May 2015 08:34:33
That's good that mate, the QPR one is a cracker, what an unbelievable failure for the guy who bought that

Note to Tony Fernandes (worth £300 million), you should have bought Everton with your investment, he owns 66% and the other percentage is owned by that really skint fella Mittal

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