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28 Jul 2016 22:13:46
Well it's nearly august; and I am getting worried about lack if transfers after nearly half the window gone. I hope we do not end up trying to get players who might be just be out of our reach and the players who are then end up at other clubs. Any way this is a huge season ahead; I trust in the new manangement to get it right. So coyb''s. Happy days ahead.
28 Jul 2016 21:29:36
would anyone bring Mustafi back think he be great buy was gutted when we let him go seen him for under 21s he looked solid and had improved greatly.
28 Jul 2016 21:38:02
Yup good young ball playing centre half. Id happily take him back.
28 Jul 2016 22:21:17
Isn't he Arsenal bound? Big error letting him leave!
28 Jul 2016 23:15:18
apparently arsenal offering 20 they want 30 id go bid 25 think he be soild defender for us what you think ed 25.
{Ed025's Note - i think he is decent bretto but it seems a lot of money to me but the way prices have gone through the roof maybe its not mate..
29 Jul 2016 07:57:30
Moyes masterclass that one letting him go.
29 Jul 2016 09:15:01
saddest part is, we let mustafi go to re-sign duffy.
29 Jul 2016 17:00:29
Let's not forget he signed Coleman and Stones and no I wouldn't pay what they are asking for him.
28 Jul 2016 17:10:37
Getting very boring now, city should pay up, or p. off. But weather Stones plays for us or city, with Sam as the England manager, young john is going to have to learn when to play out from the back, and when to put his foot though the ball. Learn that, and he will be on the road to becomeing a great player.
28 Jul 2016 19:05:51
They are allegedly in talks mate. Negotiations are taking place and the fee is not the problem.
28 Jul 2016 21:00:51
What is the problem then Degsy?
28 Jul 2016 21:57:26
I don't know, but the fee part is apparently "almost" sorted. That sounds like things willhappen soon unless the other problem proves significant. The original post said City should pay up or shut up. so I pointed out that they are willing to pay up.
28 Jul 2016 22:22:32
I heard the fee WAS the problem. city want him but not at £50 mil.
28 Jul 2016 23:33:19
Listened to pep before his words where I want John Stones but not sure whether we will be able to make it happen so reading between the lines it must be the fee can't see wages being a problem.
29 Jul 2016 07:34:54
I heard the clubs were close to agreeing the fee. They were not far apart.
29 Jul 2016 09:34:38
If we want 50 million, we shouldn't take anything less. we are in the power seat, its our choice and we set the rules regarding the transfer. I can't see City wanting to wait until deadline day to get him, so they will either pay up or maybe panic buy him on the last day and maybe pay more. Anyone remember fellini's sale to United?
29 Jul 2016 11:03:22
Cheers Degsy.
29 Jul 2016 11:07:25
At this stage, we are probably insisting that we have a ready made replacement lined up before we release Stones. ie it is no good accepting 50 million and then finding out that there is no one around to replace him. I would guess we are in for Van Dyjk and negotiating with Southampton. Could they refuse a 20 odd million offer? There may be others we are interested in and that's where Mr Walsh now comes in. But I would guess thee club is far busier than any of us know. Doing it the Everton way. Quietly. The first we will know is when deals are done.
29 Jul 2016 13:07:51
I heard yesterday that they were about 10m short of what we are prepared to accept. Might sound a lot but I'm sure it will be resolved quickly, possibly over the week end. Stones is with the squad for tonight's game in the Dresden cup so I don't expect to hear anything about his sale today.
28 Jul 2016 14:31:04
Been having a bit of a think over the squad. Would like to see Garrbutt (Galloway ahead of him now) , Gibson (but he's just re-signed) , maybe Barry (experience) , McGeedy, Kone and Niasse gone. May be harsh on Garbutt though.
Incoming. A keeper. A cb (2 if/ when Stones goes) a cm, a left sided mid/ winger and a striker (2 if/ when Lukaku goes)
28 Jul 2016 15:38:27
Got to disagree on Garbutt and Barry, Garbutt will hopefully be our future first choice RB, don't forget Galloway's a CB. Even if Barry doesn't start we need his experience.
28 Jul 2016 15:43:03
Garbutt our best LB until he got injured then the clueless one sent him out on loan because he was afraid to upset his favourite (s) (Bainsie) . Galloway against Stoke at Christmas was a rabbit in the headlights against the likes of Shakiri.
28 Jul 2016 15:45:48
I'm not sure about Garbutt but he needs a chance. personally I'd like to see a right and left winger come in as Deulofeu looks like he could be a striker. Not a replacement for Lukaku but could be a real plus in that position.
I've been very surprised at how effective he has been in the position and looks a natural.
The centre back position is a difficult one and I could flip a coin on who I want. I thought Galloway looked good the other day and he seems very comfortable in that role. Much better than at left back.
The money I want to see being spent is in the middle of the park.
Two or three real quality players. This is to replace Barry and Cleverly. Barry is too old and Cleverly because he gives his all but lacks any kind of stature on the pitch.
I'd settle for Besic, Gibson and McCarthy staying but we need real presence in the middle.
28 Jul 2016 16:41:23
I kinda agree about Barry experience, but if we are buying any sort of quality, then surely they will have experience anyway. Genuinely not sure on who is better left back, Garrbutt or Galloway, and not really seen Galloway at cb to have everything an opinion.
28 Jul 2016 23:35:23
Id like to see Del Boy off Lukaku, with Mirralas behind then a centre mid of Barkley and JMac with a holding mid. Width provided by Coleman and Baines. So I think a keeper is 100% required, a Makele like midfielder and another striker for injury purposes, as Kev could play off Rom, as could Ross but then we would still need some creative cover or fire power in the squad. Let the youth flourish in the engine room of midfield and on the full back positions. Keep Barry for suspensions and injury to the holding mid.
Still if push came to shove I'd take a decent keeper and nothing else this window as our squad is strong and massively underachieved last season (including 2 semi finals)
28 Jul 2016 11:33:19
interesting read by Daniel Storey,
patience is a virtue
Less than three weeks before Everton's first league game of 2015/ 16, supporters were expressing their outrage at the lack of investment in the club's first team. Tom Cleverley had arrived on a free transfer from Manchester United and Gerard Deulofeu arrived permanently from Barcelona, but the usual rumours has produced nothing concrete.
In the Daily Telegraph, Chris Bascombe wrote how 'Everton faced a ticking transfer time bomb as Roberto Martinez tried to defuse fans' frustrations', while fans protested on the streets outside the stadium in late August over the club's transfer market inactivity. 'Kenwright and the board, you're holding us back. If you love the club, set it free; we need investment, ' their banner read.
One year later, and not much has changed. The only addition to the playing staff from last season is Maarten Stekelenburg, a 33-year-old goalkeeper with 18 league starts since March 2014. Add the exits of Tim Howard, Leon Osman and Steven Pienaar, and it is no exaggeration to say that Everton's squad is weaker than in May. Both John Stones and Romelu Lukaku are both more likely to leave this summer than last, with the former finally to be granted the big-money move he craves.
Should Stones go, Everton's first-team squad will be reduced to 29, with untested youngsters accounting for seven of those positions. Of the remaining 22, Oumar Niasse, Darron Gibson, Aiden McGeady and Arouna Kone are generally unwanted. That leaves 11 starters and a bench of seven substitutes; cross your fingers for no injuries. Finally, 21-year-old Shani Tarashaj could feasibly be Romelu Lukaku's only back-up/ competition/ support. Have the lessons of last season not been learnt?
It's a funny thing, perception. For while last July and August 2015 brought pique and protest, Everton could reasonably be described as a feel-good club again. The appointment of Ronald Koeman from upwardly mobile Southampton stroked the ego of a support worried at how far their mighty had fallen; the bank balance of new owner Farhan Moshiri persuaded them that everything would be okay.
That doesn't change the reality, of course. The problem with Moshiri's wealth is that it increases expectation and ambition, but doesn't actually mean a great deal until some of the money is spent. Everton have been linked to Kalidou Koulibaly, William Carvalho, Georginio Wijnaldum, Juan Mata, Moussa Sissoko and Axel Witsel, but should be warned against shopping in an unrealistic market. Deals for Lamine Kone and Idrissa Gueye might not make mouths water, but Everton must avoid trying to sprint before pacing out the marathon course at walking pace.
Two weeks until the season begins with a home fixture against Tottenham, and one goalkeeper signed, yet the manager's mood of relaxation is mirrored across the club. "Things will start happening in the coming days and weeks, " Koeman said on Tuesday. "Everything will be fine. " What's more, supporters believe him.
While Koeman's appointment was a statement of intent from Everton, it is the arrival of Steve Walsh from Leicester that offers the most promise for the future. Walsh is the new Director of Football at Goodison, and will oversee the club's transfer activity in conjunction with the manager. The Director of Football role is still viewed with suspicion by some in English football, as is Walsh's own use of data analysis, but his work at Leicester makes for an overwhelming argument. Koeman's own experiences with Les Reed at Southampton were equally positive.
"It's really good for the club to have someone in Steve who has shown his quality in his job at a number of clubs over many years, " Koeman said after Walsh's appointment. "That's the experience and quality he will bring to us at a good time in the season. He has a great deal of knowledge about building for the long-term. "
It is that last phrase that best encapsulates the mood around Goodison: "Building for the long-term. " Everton have existed on the Premier League's periphery for so long that supporters are happy to remain patient in the search of sustainable success. When a sleeping giant has fallen into a semi-coma, waking it up is a slow process. With Walsh on board, Everton are aiming to be shrewd, not showy. That's the strategy that made them successful in the first place.
A lack of signings will always frustrate in an age where buying in rather than bringing through is the increasing norm; nobody wants to be spurned by Marko Arnautovic. Yet amid newspaper talk of £100m war chests and £30m signings, there lies a club laying the foundations for a brighter future. The bricks will come, in time.
28 Jul 2016 11:43:27
What a brilliant piece of journalism. This is something that is more tangible and constructive than the rubbish that is in most news agencies about Everton at the moment.
28 Jul 2016 11:49:53
Exactly how I see it too mate. But then again. I am a miserable so and so!
28 Jul 2016 12:04:01
Fantastic post blue boy, that's bang on.
28 Jul 2016 12:23:02
Awesome BB69.
28 Jul 2016 12:23:13
You may get your best agrees here yet for the one Degs :)
28 Jul 2016 12:29:15
Not all the time Degsy and i know its all because you love the club bud.
28 Jul 2016 12:49:23
Yeah mate. Seen and heard it all before. I really do believe Steve Walsh is exactly what we needed. I also believe he will bring in one or two signings this window. then another couple next window. But Ido worry that so much damage was done in the last 3 years that things are not as good "right now" as most peple think. It is not being miserable. more realistic. I willbe the happiest man alive if I am wrong and will eat so much humble pie I will probably put on a couple of stone. Anyway, the important signings we need will be a couple of center backs and a couple of forward midfielders. oh and a central midfielder/ captain and a goal keeper. whoops. see what you mean!
28 Jul 2016 13:56:23
I really do not understand this comment about damage done the last 3 years.
Players have got older and some have left to be replaced by the youngsters that have been brought into the first team.
Maybe that was the plan was all along, you just don't know, you are just speculating.
28 Jul 2016 14:19:49
Fantastic post blueboy69. Also agree with sidutton.
28 Jul 2016 15:18:48
Get ready to buy elasticated pants Degsy!
28 Jul 2016 16:55:26
I am not speculating, Sidutton. I am stating facts. Things that are real. eg Osman, Pienaar, Hibbert were all coming to the end. Jags also had limited playing time left. Distin too. RM came in and immediately sold Anichebe. Then replaced him with Kone. Kone had very little left to offer. He also signed Alcaraz. Another with little time left. Then he signed Barry. At the same time, all the other players in the squad were ageing. Howard was coming to the end. When you look at it with all this in mind, Baines and Gibson will need replacing in a couple. That's 8 regular first team players and I remember that was the figure I gave to Swan 2 or 3 years ago. You are right that we have lots of upand coming youth players, but not 8. And certainly some will not make the grade. Yes Besic, McCarthy, Lukaku, Cleverly were all brought in. but so were Niasse and McGeady (not old but maybe not good enough? ) . If you do the sums, the squad has aged tremendously with players ready for the first team. If you now add in Stones' iminent departure, the problem is compounded. That is why I say damage was done in the last 3 years. In my opinion we might get 2 or 3 youngsters making the first team. But that still leaves this squad very short of cover, first team quality and weaker than many others in the Premier League. All I say is factual except for the last bit which is my opinion.
28 Jul 2016 16:56:47
Just out of interest. which youngsters are first team regulars?
28 Jul 2016 17:49:54
I never said 1st team youngsters I said brought into the 1st team
Okay I've bitten so I'll play along.
Off the top of my head
Dowell, Davies, Kenny, Pennington, Garbutt, Tarashej, Galloway, that's seven to replace your 8 and I believe we have signed a keeper this year so your arguement doesn't hold water, 8 players to replace your 8 players.
Out of all the people you mention Howard was the only regular and as I've said there are players coming through.
Not quite so doom and gloom!
28 Jul 2016 18:09:11
The keeper is 33.so is another "older" player. If we get 8 regular youngsters in the first team through our youth policy, it will be the first time since Manchester United did it with the Beckham, Scholes, Nevilles etc. I just cat see it happening mate. as much as I wouldlove it. I answered your question with facts. Your answer to mine is speculation. And to show something else. you say Howard was the only regular. which actually makes my point all the more acurate. Damage wasdone by signing ageing players and players that were simply not good enough. Shall we leave it at that? By the way I am not all gloom and doom. Like I said, I believe Steve Walsh is exactly what we needed and the reversal of the last 3 years damage has begun!
28 Jul 2016 18:22:06
Degsy, let it go, let it go! The only damage done in last three years was Martinez's bad tactics and team selection.
This group of players will be much better under Koeman. I'm convinced. We have plenty of youngsters coming through. Some will make it. Not all but some. This along with new signings by our new Fab recruitment team along with the players we have should be enough. I believe all these things will ensure we progress in the right way.
28 Jul 2016 19:12:31
I really hope you are right NBTB. I do suspect otherwise. We will see how things progress, but I think we need quite a few signings. Why should I not say that? If you look at how many points we took off top 6 sides last seaason, it was not many. We will have to show fantastic improvements all round to end up in that group of teams. There was 5 wins. We only won 12 all season. that's a nearly 50% improvement needed. Time will tell and I sincerely hope you are right. I will be happy with top half at this stage. and that's being realistic not miserable.
28 Jul 2016 19:17:06
Sorry 16 points not 15.It was 15 the season before. So we need 5 wins and a draw from our losses of last season.
28 Jul 2016 19:32:55
Degsy, I understand what you are saying but, Alcarez and Distin have now left the club, Barry has been our most consistent player the last couple of years.
You forgot to mention that he also signed Tarashaj, Holgate, Henen for the future and I would hardly say that McCarthy Cleverly, Lukaku, and Delofeuo, Besic are old and need replacing just yet.
Okay Kone I will give you, but although he signed some older players he brought in younger players aswell, it's just you seem to have a slanted view of things.
28 Jul 2016 20:03:04
Degsy you've made your point about your opinions on aging players, the past 3 years, midfielders scoring 1 goal a year a thousand times. Now all 'this is fact' is making you sound like Benitez when he had a meltdown about Ferguson 😂😂😂
Just take some very good advice from your fellow blues Let it go. Wait until we've played a few games (10-15) and let's see how the season is panning out. You might be pleasantly surprised. COYB!
28 Jul 2016 21:25:42
Degsy the Everton rumours Dave Whelan strikes again.
28 Jul 2016 22:02:26
Ok guys. Point taken. But after 10 to 15 games (probably less will give us all an idea) if/ when I say "told you so". no getting wound up. Even though I know you all support the Blues as much as me, I think I am more of a realist. I will be delighted to eat humble pie in front of all of you if I am wrong. Absolutely delighted! I will apologise and grovel and be very embarrassed! It has to go both ways guys!
28 Jul 2016 23:51:42
I'll start baking now Degsy because I have no doubt things will be a lot better this season. You said you'd be happy with top half.
My prediction being realistic is top 10 at the very worst. Honestly I think somewhere between 6th and 9th. No point comparing last season. We have a whole different set up now. Team will be refreshed and much better.
Del boy will excel in striker role along side Rom. Dream couple. Mirallas will be brilliant this season. I feel it in my bones. It was no secret he didn't get on with Martinez. He was totally under used last season.
Imagine the attack being better with those 2 along with a better defence. Definitely a couple of places higher with that alone.
Your entitled to voice your opinion obviously Degsy. IMHO you place too much emphasis on the players and not enough on the manager. We had the players to do better last season.
They were just being told to do the wrong things and weren't prepared properly. The video footage of Baines going mad at half time proved that he and others weren't happy.
Don't care what anyone says Martinez lost the dressing room towards the end of last season. That downward trajectory of the team was happening for awhile and affected our results.
That's my opinion anyway. You don't have to agree with them. I'll get back to baking for you Degsy because Koeman and Walsh will ensure you have plenty of humble pie to eat in a few months.
29 Jul 2016 07:38:33
Actually, NBTB you are starting to make me believe mate. I do agree about him losing the dressing room. That was obvious. Ilook forwards to hearing all about those baking skills. I always thought of you as a bit of a master baker! lol.
28 Jul 2016 11:25:25
Right blues time to stop thinking about buying and selling players for a couple of days and get back to what it's all about. Playing football.
I can tell you nothing about Dresden at all other than they are a football club. I'm looking forward seeing the team take their next step under Koeman with a bit of real competition from the two warm up games we've had.
Not really that concerned over the results but hopeful of seeing more composure coming into our back line and how that midfield is shaping up.
I've been really impressed so far with Grant, Barkley and Deulofeu. I was impressed with Stekleenburg as well. the one thing he has over Robles is authority and communication and that comes with age and experience.
Two games in two days on Friday and Saturday and it should be interesting anyway and a change from the daily grind of News Now watching!
28 Jul 2016 11:56:09
tickled me this bit mate
"I can tell you nothing about Dresden at all other than they are a football club"
looking forward to it myself especially with Rom back, we will see how committed he is soon enough.
28 Jul 2016 15:32:50
Dresden we bombed the $$$$ out of it in 1945, mainly to prove a point to the Russians (I. E. that there were other great powers out there not as soft a touch as the NAZI demise) . Also was a munitions point.
28 Jul 2016 16:40:56
Ahaha. Oh yeah and all that of course! Thought that was a given. I'm back off to bed then. :)
28 Jul 2016 10:59:43
I'm slightly concerned by our lack of movement in the transfer market with just over 2 weeks til the premiership starts we still have not bought anybody of note we still need a top class keeper a replacement for John Stones who will regret leaving us CM as I don't think he rates Barry and a Striker to put pressure on Lukaku instead it seems players are using us to get better contracts at there current clubs or using us to make it known they want to leave there current club.
I know we have a good squad with good youngsters coming through but we need to show we need business and 1 more thing when is the work starting on Goodison I drive past the old lady everyday and all they have done so far is remove the badge by the park end.
28 Jul 2016 10:26:38
I love Everton but my god we are the most frustrating club in the world! Only we could get investment when the TV money kicks in and every club in the league therefore has hundreds of millions to spend! How have we gone from being linked to Mata, Wistel and the Napoli defender to some bloke from Villa (judging by his states I don't doubt he could be a half decent signing) and BRADY! I don't care what people say this is not the kind of player we should be aiming for, he's simply not good enough!
We desperately need a GK, 2 centre backs ( las Stones is virtually gone) and attacking midfielder (playmaker) and another striker (or even 2 if both Kone and Niassie go) .
Let's hope Martinez gets the Hull job and comes calling for Kone again (although he'd probably score a hatrick against us! ) Ha!
No one has mentioned it but couldn't we attempt to sign Mario Gomez? Seems like he's going and is available, I know he's getting on but what a signing he would be for Everton! Here's to dreaming!
As an Evertonian I have learnt to keep my chin up, keep doing the same boys!
Nil Satis Nisi Optimum.
28 Jul 2016 10:45:54
Asm. . . keeping our chins up will get easier mate I feel it in me water :)
Thing is, what the hell have you got against Hull?
28 Jul 2016 14:55:41
Ha. Nothing against Hull, just hoping he fancies taking him with him, he really is useless isn't he!
I just want us to kick on a bit, I had so much optimism for this summer and it's just depressing! : (
28 Jul 2016 10:17:38
Do you think everton are going to bid for koulabily because chelsea have 38mil why don't we just bid quietly agree terms then out of the blue on sky everton sign koulabily 45mil i remember when we first signed deulofeu no rumours or nothing just got him on loan didn't know anything about the player and look at him now class.
{Ed002's Note - It really doesn't work like that.}
28 Jul 2016 09:46:32
I miss talking about Axel Witsel haha. What is he up to now?
28 Jul 2016 10:21:17
He's got a new job down at Kwikfit and started going out with that barmaid from The Lodge last I heard. The one with the big, erm, feet.
28 Jul 2016 09:38:13
I am what some may call a veteran - in all definitions of the word. Naive as it may seem to some and as far as football in general and Everton in particular is concerned, I just do not understand that if a Club such as ours with an apparently new owner of wealth and willingness to invest not only his money but but business wealth and experience would sanction the selling off of our best assets I. E. Stones, Lukaku etc! Especially as we are told that Everton are building for the future.
28 Jul 2016 09:54:31
They want to go, simple as that. Anyway, it is good business to get50 mil for stones and 75 mil for Lukaku. All premier league clubs have money these days and an extra 100 mil is nothing. We have to prove ourselves in competition and improve the stadium before we can compete or pay way over the odds for average players. I would take a gamble with Galloway, browning and co and Ronald is the best guy to get results out of them,
28 Jul 2016 09:16:26
I've been thinking if we don't sign any players this transfer window and we are in a top 4/ 6 position in January we can attract some quality then been in a more attractive position. 👍👍👍.
28 Jul 2016 09:33:23
we will sign players mate, plenty of time yet.
28 Jul 2016 09:56:43
Forster, Van Dyjk, Bony for a start. Heard Soton are getting McCarthy as goalkeeper "cover"
28 Jul 2016 10:27:25
Like all Evertonians I have a wish list and fall prey to all the 'silly season' lazy press etc. . . with their almost predictable 'clickbait' stuff e. g. 'Toffees interested in Tom Dick and Harry ' or 'Tom Dick and Harry would like a move to Merseyside'
Wtf, it keeps me alert and it's all part of the fun of footy!
Nevertheless the I'm 100% happier than I was this time last season and have high hopes for our beloved club.
28 Jul 2016 09:09:47
Anyone know who our backroom staff are now. Did everyone leave with Bobby? I know Koeman has brought his brother and fitness coach. Big Duncan is staying with the 1st team. Who else is there? Do we have a go coach yet etc. Not sure if I've seen anything in this yet?
28 Jul 2016 10:19:33
Believe we brought in Lodewijks or something like that from Feyenoord as goalie coach and Jan Kluitenberg came as a fitness coach, Rhino remained as U21 manager, the rest I'm unsure about.
28 Jul 2016 10:41:08
Out:
Graeme Jones (Asst. Manager)
Dennis Lawrence (Development)
Inaki Bergara (GK Coach)
Kevin Reeves (Chief Scout)
In:
Erwin Koeman (Asst. Manager)
Jan Kluitenberg (Fitness Coach)
Steve Walsh (Director of Football)
Patrick Lodewijks (GK Coach)