Everton Banter Archive August 27 2015

27 Aug 2015 22:00:01
So Ed who would YOU like us to get for the No10 role?Cant say i'm not gutted about the Kiev lads deal fallin thru but now the plot thickens as to who else RM has in mind for that position.

{Ed025's Note - kagawa would be good tony..

27 Aug 2015 22:10:20
Do you think there's a chance of us getting him. He'd do for me mate tbh.

{Ed025's Note - unlikely tony, but we can wish mate..

28 Aug 2015 00:23:35
Been starting for Dortmund and playing well

27 Aug 2015 21:53:19
alfter chelseas tapping up of john stone how good would it be if the now couldn't get a decent cb b4 tranfer window closes, poetic justice at its very best, no doubt they will sign someone tho, but if carling got involed you never know! "if carling made".
probably the best stuff you ever lol

27 Aug 2015 21:58:34
lol "stuff" ed I know you can't put the words I put in but stuff lol, hows about the best eat that ever

{Ed025's Note - it was "stuff you" which was far more appropriate than yours TB..:)

27 Aug 2015 21:59:56
oh I see it now ed sry, lol 4 too many beers lol

{Ed025's Note - have one for me mate.. :)

27 Aug 2015 20:58:26
I wonder if all this come out to make us feel better and forget about any new signings we was meant to be getting 2 or 3 I think we was told not so long ago

27 Aug 2015 20:51:42
Hi Ed Bill Kenwright and Roberto are to be commended over this saga with J S to stick to their guns and put Chelsea firmly in their place is brilliant just hope the press report on this for the way Everton behaves, and hopefully we will get a few big signings in before the end of the window, just a word of thanks to all Eds for the great work you all do, many thanks GuernseyBlue

{Ed025's Note - i have to say guernsey, i thought they would crumble like so many before them, im so proud of how we have stood up to be counted and sent a message out to all of football that nobody bullies everton!, a couple of good signings and its christmas come early mate..

28 Aug 2015 00:25:58
Gotta say although the banners aren't my thing they may have swayed his decision to go public, selling now would suicidle

28 Aug 2015 08:17:24
Only remains to try and make sure Chelsea get nothing from the games with Everton when they play.

27 Aug 2015 20:21:52
I work in marketing and pr and I can not stress the genius of whoever wrote the Kenwright statement because it is brilliant on so many levels.
Regardless and I won't bore you as to why it's brilliant I am so proud to be part of the club that had essentially changed the landscape of football transfers moving forward.
It also makes our neighbours look pathetic over the Sterling sale, I guess they are now a selling club and we aren't.
Sod transfer incomings let's properly get behind them now regardless. We will have the backing of 18 clubs plus us, only Chelsea won't support us.
Can't wait to hear, read and see what the pundits have to say. They have to applaud. We are the 1st club in recent time to say f it, honour your contract lad. Shouldn't have signed it if you didn't believe in it. Here's your pay rise now play your socks off and all will be forgotten.
Cos if ya know ya history.

{Ed025's Note - good stuff svenny..

27 Aug 2015 21:08:55
love it svenny so much for being a selling club everton should be proud today this is why I love this club :)

27 Aug 2015 21:30:29
Love it as well Svenny. Less is more as you know in marketing but so is timing.

I expect Everton to build on this over the next couple days with signings. A crest of a wave coming me thinks.

If you think that if this was released earlier it would have been forgotten by now. Again though they've done when they should have when Stones handed in his request as there is nothing more that can be done by either Stones or Chelsea.

27 Aug 2015 19:42:39
Just thinking, so stones is staying and we really need to show the lad how much we appreciate him. Because he wears the number 5, how about in the Fifth minute against spurs the fans start cheering for stonesy. Show the lad some support.

27 Aug 2015 20:03:33
The money he gets paid should be support enough

27 Aug 2015 20:58:06
i agree blueray, he is a boy who has been ill advised, he is 21 yrs old and tbh from what I have seen from yesterdays game, I am ashamed I was stunned when I seen he jumped the ball for their 1st goal but I didn't slate him, fans shouting you f*&^ing rat at him, grown men prob with kids of their own is shocking stuff like that will make him think yeah this not the place for me, and if the vid is true shame on you who are in volved, he is a boy. I hope to god that some how he has got wind that like me many many fans are disgusted with the treatment he recieved and those idiots responsaable are in the minority. I for one will back him 100% while he plays for efc.

27 Aug 2015 21:12:42
miserable git kingy :)

27 Aug 2015 19:19:48
Away from all the Stones business for a second,just a question I wanna ask. Aiden Mcgeady!! what's the point?

{Ed025's Note - you never know jimmy..chelsea might make a sly little bid to try and poach him..

27 Aug 2015 19:52:54
Any chance we can raise the money to get someone to take him off us.

{Ed025's Note - not now that john is staying navy.. :)

27 Aug 2015 21:14:59
no point why ask :)

27 Aug 2015 22:12:03
wtf did he go for him in the first place

{Ed025's Note - search me DM..

28 Aug 2015 00:29:54
Mcgeady was a fantasy RM had for Wigan he couldn't let go off, Del Boy made him look even worse

{Ed025's Note - his fantasy has become our nightmare mike.. :)

27 Aug 2015 18:52:00
Just to get away from the circus a little more about last night. Barclay and Del look like they have grown up and can reach their full potential. Barclay held the ball well and broke with power and pace. Del is now a team player and much better for it, if he, s not making chances he, s drawing 2 or 3 defenders out of position a major force this year. Lukaku showed how good he is with the right service after Ross and Del came on and he responded and got better as the game went on. thgfest

27 Aug 2015 18:27:43
Magnificent statement. Wonderfully formal and personal at the same time. Exceptional use of words.
Well done Bobby for forcing the Bill in to that statement and well done bill for giving us what we crave, communication.
We will never turn our backs. If times are tough we get behind you. We just don't like the silence. We are the people's club and we need to act as one unit not two. It's not the club and the clubs fans it's the club. We are part of it.
Weirdly I would find it hypocritical for us to sign people now unless the club selling states they wanted to sell as it does seem ridiculous for us to stand so strong but then we force other people in to selling so I hope we bring people in but hope it is done correctly.
Love this club, you will never see a chairman releasing a statement like that from someone else. He's john he's ours and we will support him.
If anyone knows the **** shouting bile at him yesterday do me a favor will you, slap him in the chops from me.

27 Aug 2015 18:15:16
Finally an official statement from Kenwright. STONES NOT FOR SALE. Up yours jose.

27 Aug 2015 18:09:53
Can anyone tell please tell me what happened with these persons following Naisy and Stones home!? Haven't seen the vid. Is this true!? If so, we have really reached an all time low as a football club. :(

27 Aug 2015 18:08:18
Kenwright has just issued a statement repeating what RM has been saying all along.

27 Aug 2015 17:57:58
Couldn't be clearer, let's hope Mourinho can read

"Everton Football Club has rejected a transfer request from John Stones.

Since the start of the transfer window, we have resolutely turned down offers from another Premier League football club for our player.

John is not for sale and he will remain a highly valued member of our first team squad".

Bill Kenwright
Chairman, Everton Football Club

Now let's support John Stones please

27 Aug 2015 16:02:50
What's happened to Funes Mori and Rodriguez? Get them signed!

27 Aug 2015 15:00:22
One very positive sign early on this year is Everton coming from behind to take something from games. Last season Everton lost a lot of points in games when we were ahead during the game. We'd go 1 or 2 up and then end up drawing or even losing them games. This season against Watford we went 2 down which was dreadful I know but the players had the fight to come back and take something from the game. The same last night. Never say die attitude can go along way in the determining how well the season goes. Nice to see last years trend reversing.

Also how good was Del boy last night! Even linking up with Miralles on the other wing. Best team for me is Howard, Coleman Jag Stones Oviedo, McCarthy Besic, Miralles Barkley Del boy, Lukaku. If we add to that over next week then great. Think a striker would be no harm to keep Lukaku on his toes for the whole season. He even knows he's a shoe in on the team sheet for every game

27 Aug 2015 18:10:54
never thought I say this but right now I would pick clev over besic :)

{Ed025's Note - really?, clevs works hard enough coby but achieves very little for me, besic can be a loose cannon at times but will get up and down and sprayed some really good passes last night..but its all about opinions mate..

27 Aug 2015 18:14:31
I think cleverly's positional play and vision has been excellent. Wouldn't want to drop him, but I also agree on the width.

27 Aug 2015 19:42:35
I actually agreed with the signing of Clev when Everton signed him. He is a better player that a lot of people give him credit for. All it takes is for a few people to give out about him and then other people think its fashionable or whatever to do the same. That being said I think Besic has the potential to be a better player. Wishful thinking though. I have a feeling Clev is the new Barry and Martinez will play him in every game if he's not injured

{Ed025's Note - clevs has done well up to now NBTB, but i think your right about him playing whatever his form..

27 Aug 2015 21:25:53
with mccarthy playin then maybe clevs might give a bit more going forward do like besic alot

27 Aug 2015 14:15:51
Dammm!

Last night I was going to throw a £50 bet on stones staying and it was giving me a return of 500 odd pounds.

I couldn't find my card so I left it and when I went to do it this morning it's giving me a return of just £80 :(

Suppose it's good in a way though

{Ed025's Note - unlucky mate..

27 Aug 2015 13:44:32
Just going to clear a few things that I see happening
Stones will stay, we will end up with 3 signings by end of deadline day one of them will be a 15-20m marquee player, to protect board and calm fans down till January now it's starts to get interesting our board have been waitin for another boom in the riches of prem league more investment is on the way to prem league once again they are sat there waiting to sell up and make a tidy fortune the club would of doubled in value since they took over without much investment they bought low sold high and paid of clubs debts with it now leaving pretty much a debt free club they all walk away richer than when they walked in, but Bill is a true blue and he wants good for club
But out to happen within 12-18months hold me too it that's me looking at it from a business point of view,

27 Aug 2015 14:46:07
I can't see much wrong with that Truebluemetz. All your comments point to one fact that the club has been well run financially with limited investment. That's seems like a compliment to all involved because how many other clubs out there made the same achievement you have outlined there?

27 Aug 2015 14:56:41
Let's I go to bed first . Thailand time is 9:00 pm.

27 Aug 2015 12:43:51
just saw the clip of the abuse stones got from a grown man last night, supporting a team is some people's lives but come on fella he's still wearing an everton shirt did we call him a rat when we signed him

{Ed025's Note - your right billy..

27 Aug 2015 12:29:33
could we put the stones story to bed and please hurry up and sign someone

{Ed025's Note - im with you billy..

27 Aug 2015 11:31:43
Not been the biggest fan of Roberto but that was down to his tactics. Lots of respect to him how he handled yesterdays interview and how stubborn he is to keep our prized asset. Also well done to him for actually being bold and making the decisions that needed to be made bringing Barkley and good on at half time.

On Stones, I think the treatment from that so called 'fan' was pathetic. it was like he had paid the ticket price and travelled just to hurl abuse at him. Embarrassing, I'm glad its the minority. we don't need fans like that.

Stones has acted impeccably during this saga and it can't be easy at such a young age. I'm confident he will stay and I'm sure 95% of fans will get behind him. he is a professional, and will continue to give his all. much like Suarez when his transfer request was rejected.

What an epic cup tie, that's what its all about. We look so much better when we have GD, Barkley, Lukaku and KM on the pitch at the same time. I hope they start against spurs. but I would be surprised if they all did.

COYB

27 Aug 2015 12:54:17
Spot on PB couldn't agree with you more
Wellzee

27 Aug 2015 18:16:38
agree thank god moyes ain't here he would of drove him to chelsea for 10m :)

27 Aug 2015 10:55:42
I watched the Vid & seen pics of Naysie & Stones! Absolutely disgusted to see MY OWN FANS acting like that. SickMick#Twitter. So bad to post that vid & worse of all its you saying the abuse and other fans heard in back ground! Naughty. We don't need this behaviour. Why don't you's jog on to CFC??

27 Aug 2015 12:56:18
Spot on RFBB some fans behaviour males me shudder. He's a 21 year old kid under amazing pressure and handling it so well. These so called fans are no better than the gutter press.
Wellzee

27 Aug 2015 10:34:20
RM has stated that we will be stronger when the window closes, I believe him! Still got a few days and I'm sure work is going on behind the scenes! I'm 100% sure that we will be happy with who we buy in over the next few days!
If not then I will join the protesters and anti board groups!
Come Martinez/board don't make me protest against you :-)

27 Aug 2015 10:19:33
im shocked and embarrassed after watching those videos online, especially the one of the gang following Naismith and stones home, they must have been really afraid, this is not acceptable. I don't care what anybody says, these people are not real supporters, they are scum, we have always had hard times at everton but always got behind the squad, this is not the way to react.

{Ed025's Note - i totally agree rob..

27 Aug 2015 09:44:48
Read Swannys post below and feel embarrassed, shameful acts from some supporters, I bet some of them come on here too but hide away when they see what proper supporters think, let's see if any of you have any balls eh, post on here why you booed and shouted those things at the lad, come on bullies let see your reasoning behind it, I know gobby tits who hide behind anonymity or act the big man in a crowd of thousands

27 Aug 2015 10:25:47
Well said murf, Never slag your team off no matter what, if you don't like it get lost support someone else, made us look a right shower/

players in an efc shirt get 100% even if the frustrate you Aiden in mind lol

27 Aug 2015 10:51:43
agreed Murf a little bit like the fans at Newcastle berating Alladyce! absolutely no need for it the boy had the blue jersey on and was playing the club!

{Ed025's Note - anyone who wants to slag the team off is welcome on here wakka, vent your frustration on these page..NOT AT THE GAME!, i dont know what they hope to achieve?, we want all our players to feel wanted and appreciated so that they perform to their maximum..

27 Aug 2015 11:25:08
I booed because he handed a transfer request in, if you believe in the bored forcing him too you probably believe in the illuminati

27 Aug 2015 11:32:06
Well ryan 1 your what is wrong with the game, thankfully I stopped going away, because of knobs like you

27 Aug 2015 12:07:22
I'm wrong with the game? I spend hundreds of money every season, am I not allowed to voice my opinion? Sorry forgot were all robots

27 Aug 2015 12:17:00
Give you this Ryan, at least you had the balls to come on here fella, I know things are done in the heat of the moment and everyone makes mistakes so hopefully that's what happened with you

27 Aug 2015 13:27:38
spot on Blueboy Evertonian's have always respected anyone who plays in the blue shirt absolutely disgraceful the mindless hatred!

27 Aug 2015 13:44:01
Hundreds of money!? Now there's a phrase that I have never heard before.

27 Aug 2015 09:27:02
Am I the only one thinking this Stones saga has gone a bit sour? Everton fans want him to stay but the moment he asks for a transfer request they call him a rat.It was only Sunday he got a massive roar when his name got called out and people where cheering him on loving him, then 3 days later they hate him. Talk about fickle! and I already know i'm going to get slated for saying that but its true. Everyone says get behind the team but a good 80% of our fans slag most the team off. I remember people last season saying Lukaku an Barkley were rubbish sell them hahahaha they're the future of this club!! give them time to grow in the game!!

27 Aug 2015 09:40:36
Yeah, I was rash in my reaction wishing him the worst at Chelsea without even thinking about it properly. Either way, the lad needs our support now more than ever.

27 Aug 2015 10:54:26
As long as the boy is playing for the club he gets my full support, also I am a realist its a profession a job and like all of us we want what we think is the best in both money and opportunity, the club will still be there long after young stones has moved on!

27 Aug 2015 07:40:36
so fair play to RM, he has come out and said he will reject the transfer request from Stones and that he will not be sold. if this is true and we keep him well done RM

27 Aug 2015 02:25:40
Just seen a video of Stones walking off the pitch at half time and some fool calling him an effing rat and telling him to eff off. I said he deserved what he gets, that was in the heat of the moment, I actually feel sorry for the lad now. No need, could tell hale heard it all too. A man, a fully grown man actually shouted to him 'John Terry's going to **** your bird'. Remember in my ratings for the City game when I explained why we can't have nice things because of some of the fans. This is it. That was completely uncalled for, the lads head is all over the place and the tossers who went to Barnsley today, let's be honest, some probably only went there to have a go. Shameful and embarrassing, shame he is not on social media to at least give him a bit of support and explain not all of us are like that. he's 21!!, animals, complete disgrace. You know I don't like players being abused personally, I get booing an opposite player, just not our own player, least of all shouting all sorts at our young player who we want to keep. Hope the 2 d*ckh**ds got home to find John Terry in bed with their wives, if they have them, god help anyone who has to put up with that. I am changing my mind on the whole situation a bit because I'm not fully convinced he wants to leave. I think he wants to go to Chelsea but I don't think he wants to leave Everton if that makes any sense. Honestly disgusting behaviour by those tits.

27 Aug 2015 06:14:44
Exactly the kind of behaviour I'm referring to in my post below. These people are destroying our club and certainly don't speak for me! Well said once again Swan.

27 Aug 2015 06:39:16
Spot on Swan.

27 Aug 2015 07:48:44
Well said

27 Aug 2015 08:45:33
Good one Swanny. I also get the impression he wants to go to top club, at the moment Chelsea, but also feels he wants to be loyal to Everton and probably doesn't want to leave. This is a strong case for an old head to give advice without money coming into it. Someone like Joe Royal Peter Reid Bobby Charlton to give advice or even have word with Moyes.
I maintain the best outcome is he stays one more season with the club promise he can go next summer subject to satisfactory offers.

27 Aug 2015 09:32:02
Here are my observations on the Stones saga.
From what RM said last night he will reject Stones transfer request and he will not be sold this gives me the impression that he has not actually handed the request in yet. So it must be sitting on the desk of the reliable ssn desk and he has just forgotten to pass it on. I may be being a bit cynical but surely the best way to get a player who is undecided what to do is to get his supporters to start slagging him off when he plays matches and make him feel like he is hated by the fans. I find it totally baffling why anyone would actually think that the so called media know anything about what is happening and react in such a disgusting manner. From what I have seen and heard from the club they have consistently stated Stones is not for sale and will not be sold, yet everyday the media continually insist Chelsea want Stones and therefore it will be a done deal. Its common knowledge Chelsea have so far put in 3 bids all have been rejected no fourth bid yet. However, we now have so called EFC supporters slagging off one of our best players, which will at best distract Stones and affect his performance at worst convince him that EFC is not the family club full of fantastic supporters and not an attractive place to be. To me it looks like the media holds more sway with the fans than the club but its up to you who to believe! All I would say is please don't help Chelsea's cause by acting on unsubstantiated stories. At least wait till it is an actual fact.

27 Aug 2015 10:58:10
Cant agree more total disgrace to treat the lad like that ud think he robbed a pensioner if he goes we'll get serious money and move on like we have in the past blame rats like mourinho terry and cahill not to mention his agent and advisers money grabbin prats

27 Aug 2015 00:42:42
Heard on radio tonight we are linked to fazio from spurs. Not seen a great deal of him but why are we not talking to celtic about van dijk. Even if stones stays we need cover at centre back. i'm starting to think the board believe galloway browning and holgate can cover. I've said it from the day we signed him, get rid of mcgeady he wouldn't get a game at barnsley, who were great tonight by the way, hope they get promoted to championship. Martinez really can't coach a defence and I worry about recruitment at the back.

27 Aug 2015 06:40:48
We have a coach for the defence same as we have a coach for the strikers. I don't see to many on here calling Big Dunc.

27 Aug 2015 00:02:58
First up what a game football suppose to be entertaining well we had that tonight but not one for supporters.
Hats of to Barnsley they were superb played great football all across the pitch be very surprised if they don't get promoted if that's how they turn out on a Saturday.
Now back to our lot, where to start

Robles- get rid he needs to play week in week out as last season he had a spell where he had a run of decent games after few mistakes but he is not good enough even to be our no 2, made a wicked save in extra time but at fault for 2nd goal rather try our 3rd keeper to be honest who ever that is, it's a position we need as Howard not that reliable any more.

Pennington- felt sorry for lad did not do much wrong but changes needed to be made, but hope he gets a chance again soon

Stones- credit to him playing, got the feeling he was not concentrating mind slightly somewhere else, don't know why he jumped over ball, head has been turned but get the feeling he won't throw toys out pram if he does not go to Chelsea.

Jags- made some good challenges but he needs to start being a leader and organise this defence cause it's a shambles at times they only had 3 or 4 shots on target and scored 3 but was not comfortable in defence.

Oviedo- back after along lay of but he is not good enough with everyone at club he would be 4th choice, I hope he can have a good career but not at prem level, I think it's best for him and club to part ways, I was not expecting him to be great but he looked lost done every time, basic defending.

Basic- I love him, the type we need, he should play more he can tackle yes he will pick up cards cause of how he plays but at moment I would have him say infront of our back 4 they need protecting he could do a massive job on players like the one that needed doing on silva on Sunday, needs to play more tidy in possession as well.

Cleverly- did not have the best of games but he gives 100% every time where ever asked to play, I thought it was a good signing especially free fits into squad well.

Mcgeady- rubbish get rid another one not good enough has enough talent but not a prem player Scottish football is made for him, bit like Oviedo he would be 3rd 4th choice bet he is on 50k+ as well if not more.

Mirralas- great finish glad he is staying like he can play on both sides done a lot of roaming around coming deep for the ball, since arriving has done well apart from silly pen incident last season which I hope he does not do silly again, important season we need him to get 12-15 goals this year.

Naismith- I like him you know he is not no 1 on team sheet but he is the most important squad player we have will get us goals but not a starter only in certain games but he works hard, gets into great positions,

Lukaku- first touch surely they work on it in training he be so much better if he could get better, first half it runs away from him or his lay offs are awful then 2nd half he takes it and turns his opponent don't get it, but he will get goals if supplied could of had hat trick, big season needs to hit 20-25 prem goals if we're to have a successful season possible if giving supply like tonight.

Del Boy- game changer that's what he is, talent in abundance made 3 goals tonight and should of scored as well but he supplied so many crosses Lukaku will get goals if the supply comes in like that, he gets lots of assists, give him a run of games boy needs to get confidence going start him Saturday.

Barkley- he changed the game no two ways about it he came on and did what I want him to do influence games and doing it from deep and that's what he done for me he has to be a central midfielder so he can drive at defences, he came on and bossed the game, good to see he is working on decision making so improved, did not have shooting boots on though tonight, he can get 12-15 goals in prem this season such a big season for him but I believe this is the season Ross Barkley becomes world class. He has everything you want in a footballer.

{Ed003's Note - Well done for giving Barnsley credit,It was a good match to watch.}

27 Aug 2015 06:44:26
disagree on oviedo, the bloke needs match time. Like Osman, Oviedo is one of the best ball players at the Club. I see his position as in front of Garbutt (why leave him out on loan) or Baines (once fit).

27 Aug 2015 09:44:30
All the squad players looked really rusty, they need to get more game time to up their level of performance. If you look at Pennington he played well but he plays matches most weeks Robles and Oviedo stood out for me as under performers we have actually seen how good they have been so their under performance, IMO, was magnified. They only player that I felt has consistently not been of PM standard was McGeedy.

27 Aug 2015 11:00:45
But they ain't going to get game time are they you happy for them to start Saturday and then Chelsea cause if not then they won't play for a month, so where do you see Oviedo playing in future left back, don't make me laugh best ball player there is at club, he could not even track is man last night ball watching that's basic defending, and I'm not having a go at the lad, his injuries were bad but this is prem you can't carry passengers In the squad, I like Gibson I think when fit he first name on sheet cause what he provides and we don't loose many when he's playing but he is a wage collector that will never play more than 5-10 games a season, need to get those wages off books
Oviedo 40k
Gibson 50k
Mcgeady 40k
Our squad players don't do enough to earn there money so get rid, especially mcgeady he ain't eve injured just rubbish worst buy from Martinez reason I did not put Kone in is because he has not had chance yet

27 Aug 2015 12:28:43
Bryan Oviedo is not on 40 grand a week I assure you.

26 Aug 2015 23:32:34
Del Boy was MOM changed the game good winger with an end product

26 Aug 2015 23:17:54
We are desperate for a top goal

27 Aug 2015 01:10:42
if the missing bit of your post is keeper, I could not agree more, nither one is fit to be a prem goalkeeper.martinez please take off the rose tinted glasses, they are both a liability, that urgently needs a fix before the window closes.