Everton Banter Archive November 26 2017

 

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26 Nov 2017 23:05:13
My Missus has been an ardent Evertonian all her life, has in the past followed Everton in Europe and was a season Ticket Holder. Not often I have to agree with her, but I'm beginning to see another tilt on the sorry state of our Club this season and the possible reasons behind it all? She always says "You don't always get what you wish for"! Meaning that for the last decade or so Everton FC has been crying out for a Major Investor/ New Multi Millionaire Owner just to compete with the so called Big 5/ 6 Clubs in the Premier League. Kenwright was patient and always promised that he would only sell to "the right people"? Enter Farhad Moshiri to all intents and purposes a brilliant businessman who loves his football& has now supposedly taken Everton to his heart! But it would appear at the moment that Moshiri and Kenwright do not seem to be singing from the same hymn sheet, and the whole infrastructure of our Club is crumbling rapidly. Unsworth is NOT good enough to manage Everton at this time, I fear he is another Colin Harvey. a great coach of the youngsters but not up to being Manager over the 1st team etc. Once again today we never turned up, or maybe I just wish we hadn't, and it was totally embarrassing and insulting. I just can't grasp how or why EVERY SINGLE PLAYER is so badly out of form at the very same time? There is NO FIGHT, NO HEART, NO UNDERSTANDING OR COHESION. in defence. in midfield. and in attack. We have had poor sides in the past but I'm struggling to try to understand how any team could be so abject in every match. Unsworth has chopped and changed the team which hasn't really helped. Rooney came out after the Atalanta game and said that "The boys were all behind Unsworth, training has been great, positive and we have worked hard on a number of things"? He also stated that "The spirit in the camp was brilliant"? Sorry but that isn't the picture Everton fans are seeing on the pitch. I don't know what the answer is, don't know who the New Manager might be, and I'm not even sure who I would like the Manager to be anymore. What I do know is that whoever comes in has a massive job on his hands just trying to boost morale and instill some discipline let alone getting these players, whoever is selected, to play like they at least know each other! We need a Striker, we all know that, and where is Ross Barkley up to regarding his fitness? If we make it safely to the end of the season then we need a whole new back four, midfield needs sorting as well as up front. so major surgery required. Baines, Jags, Williams aren't up to it anymore, Keane is having a nightmare at present, Funes Mori to come back from injury and we need a forceful midfield player who who take a game by the scruff of the neck and find a pass. But will it happen? One thing is for sure. this debacle CANNOT CARRY ON ANY LONGER! COYB.

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26 Nov 2017 23:47:47
Couldn't agree more with every word golden vision.

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27 Nov 2017 10:46:59
Golden Vision, we have the ideal destroyer in Besic already at the Club but his playing style ensures we cannot get a consistent run of games out of him (injury) . If we could get him to tone it down a bit then Besic alongside Gueye, Barkley fit maybe even alongside Siguurdson and that area would be sorted. If we do get through this still in the Prem millions needs spending on he back line and it needs planning now so that we hit the ground running. In every walk of business and public service life in this Country economics has dictated that we have forgotten or deliberately left to die (costs) a basic premise and that is to be Pro-Active instead everyone is reactive and we see the consequencies of that especially at EFC.

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26 Nov 2017 22:55:31
All, I hate to say it but as I have said in the past, we bought the wrong type of players with the odd exception. I got the manager wrong though, thought Koeman was the right man. In hindsight, looking at what he has done, we picked a manager in form, not a tried and tested manager who has won things consistently. I did say that we should have bought young athletic talented players with pace! We've also unsettled the team by bringing so many players in. Damage has been done now so bringing more in won't make any difference and any new manager will bring more players in. Biggest decision now is a decent manager with a proven pedigree, no matter what the cost. Need 6 players in and six out. Incidently, some of the players in, shouldn't cost the earth. Williams, Jags, Martina need to go. Told all my friends that Rooney was a mistake and they all laughed. His hearts there, no question, but not good enough anymore. There are others that can go as well. We sold a £90M goal nachine and didn't replace that asset. BUSINESS BASICS! For me, two world class strikers need buying on day one of the transfer window. Announcement imminent for the new manager, but I fear the worst. Years of waiting for money and investment and ironically, look where we are.

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27 Nov 2017 06:25:53
I think we all got it wrong on koeman and those who wanted an end to the passing game under martinez sure got their wish.
The silence from the club has got every media outlet filling the empty space with what seems to be pure speculation and conjecture with few quotes from any of the candidates that makes you think it's the work of the old private eye journalist Phil Space.

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26 Nov 2017 22:52:39
As i have said, we need a quality experienced manager along with at least 4 signings ofthe same ilk,
Thats just to get us up and running, think we will hear this week a bit more, then roll on january to get us out of this shog dite, i know i'm stating the obvious, but now i hope the board now also see it.

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27 Nov 2017 08:58:15
Nico. You almost feel like a friend so I'll be kind but just tell us which quality manager and top class players are going to join that load of tripe we saw yesterday?

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26 Nov 2017 22:36:25
Farhad Moshiri reportedly said upon buying his major shareholding in Everton Football Club that there is a "small window of opportunity" to reach the same level as the successful, wealthier (bigger? ) , "Hollywood" clubs.
So, why does it feel that, instead of a window opening, a door is being slammed shut (possibly permanently if the spectre of relegation isn't thwarted) , especially as last Summer we were encouraged to peek through that window and were buoyed by the tantalising prospect of sustainable success (rather than yet another false dawn) ?
As "the Who" sang, is it a case of "meet the new boss, same as the old boss"? Well, I think that's unfair to say that for now, but the clock's ticking ever louder.
It was was always going to be difficult and challenging to improve the club's fortunes, both on and off the field, but I hope the line "won't get fooled again" doesn't come back to demoralise the fanbase even more.
One thing's for sure imho: the club MUST make the key football decisions (like choice of first-team manager) based on sound expert advice rather than wishful thinking and sentiment - just as the club's business and commercial decisions must be made by expert professionals. I am yet to be convinced that we are seeking - let alone listening to - expert advice; and I wonder if we even have genuine agreement (not just lip service) at board level about the club's strategy, let alone if we have the right executive management in place to carry it out.
Still, like every fan, all we can do is support the team (no matter how poorly they have performed) and hope that the people owning/ running the club are on the right track. Fingers crossed.

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26 Nov 2017 22:29:39
I heard DU saying today the players are happy and having fun on the training ground. Well maybe if we had them working industrial type hours for a few weeks they may not be laughing too much. Up at 5-6am, off to work at 6-7am, start at 7-8am lunch 12-30 to 1pm, finish at 4-5pm, rain, hail, or snow. They might value their luck in being footballers and understand that, the people who pay their wages do that 5-6 days per week and them pay to see them produce rubbish. Whoever comes in needs to be tough and drive these prima donnas.

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26 Nov 2017 21:20:06
We spent 140m over the summer, with the exception of Pickford, they have all, to a greater or lesser extent, flopped. Whilst Koeman must take some of the blame, walsh it seems, has come out of this mess smelling of roses, even if directed to look at this or that player, he should have, afder observation, have reported back on their limitations. This man had a luckey streak at lester, picking up 3 players who came good, in fact that was all his reputation was built on, and it is now time for him to leave, in any job, you mess up badley, you pay the price.

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26 Nov 2017 20:55:01
Enough is enough sort ARE club out BK.

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26 Nov 2017 20:22:58
Lets stop for a minute. had we not spent the money we did in the summer and been in the position we are in now we would be talking about a poor start to the season and not relegation - we are now comparing our position verses ridiculous expectations on the back of the big spend!

We beat Watford a couple of weeks ago and suddenly we are almost mid table. its a very congested league with little between half of the teams in it
There are certain players who clearly don't want to be here and if that's the case we'll move them on but for me the biggest concern is the apparent boardroom split who appear to be at odds with regards to the new manager. why o why would you sack Koeman with no replacement lined up? . they clearly haven't learned from the Lukaku debacle.
Lets see what happens this week as they must be close to a decision now - and whatever that decision is it is our duty to support the appointment.

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26 Nov 2017 20:47:24
Nev, the problem has nothing at all to do with Lukaku leaving the problem is the way we are playing, The lack of respect the players have for the board, the manager, the club, the fans and themselves.

Lukaku was not the glue that held the team together nor is not replacing him the reason we now have the worst defence in the premiership. We have let in 26 goals in the last 8 games and that is due to the players acting like and playing like school kids.

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26 Nov 2017 20:52:12
The worry currently is that we seem incapable of matching the opposition never mind outplaying them. Watford must still be trying to figure out how they managed to lose a game in which they were by far the better side. We are "nicking" rather than earning points even against the bottom club in the division. The whole situation is made worse by the fact that potential "confidence boosting wins that will kick start the season" such as the win against Watford turn out to be no such thing but merely the prelude to debacles like this afternoon. It does not instil hope never mind confidence.

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26 Nov 2017 20:55:56
too true Grumpy as for beating Watford WOOPEEDOOO a missed penalty from Clev got us that fluke.

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26 Nov 2017 21:00:58
What Boardroom split, don't read too many rags mate does you no good.

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26 Nov 2017 21:12:29
Have you not watched all our games this season? We are poor and have been all season, nothing to do with the board. The problem is Koeman asked for productivity and got it. What he didn't realise is the productivity came in the guise of Klassen, Sandro and Vlasic all just squad players. Lukaku was a 1st teamer and hasn't been replaced. Barkley was a 1st choice no10 and he hasn't been replaced, Baines is one of the best left backs in the league but he needs cover or a replacement. Barry one of the best passers in the league left but wasn't replaced. We have bought well in Sandro, Klassen, Vlasic and Lookman but these are all for the future not now.

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26 Nov 2017 21:23:39
you tell him mate.

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26 Nov 2017 20:10:17
Get Dyche now please before its to late sos.

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26 Nov 2017 19:55:38
Unsworth got it wrong when he took over I know the players he has been playing he knows from u23 but there confidence is taking a battering especially when you have rooney say on the bench.

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26 Nov 2017 21:04:41
Koeman didn't have the answers so how the heck do the board expect Unsworth to. We all know the problems with defence but it starts further up field than that. For a start our DM's go wandering instead of concentrating on their major job of protecting the back 4. Playing Rooney slows the game right down, he also refuses to stay where he is put (mainly because he has no legs) so gradually falls deeper and deeper, he gets the ball and the person the ball should go to up front is himself. Another thing Sandro was getting his confidence the other night and we had a bloke (for a little while) that had the legs to run onto the ball. So what does Unsworth do, drops him to the bench. As most point out we are literally at the level of Sunday Pub Football and to be honest it is embarrassing.

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26 Nov 2017 19:52:25
I cannot understand why you would play a player that has not played much football over last 12 months, had a mental health issue recently and put him into a team that's got no confidence and in a mess ahead of a young fearless lookman and leave Rooney on the bench Klassen out of the squad, it's hardly rocket science.

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26 Nov 2017 20:18:08
What has Lennons mental health problems got to do with our performance as a team or his performance? That’s quite disrespectful, Lennon has always worked his socks off for this club, Lookman is terrible whenever he starts, fearless or not.

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26 Nov 2017 20:44:39
he has been one of the better players nothing at all to do with mental health issues, if only all the players would put in a shift like Lennon does we would not be in this position!

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26 Nov 2017 20:49:28
I agree Swan.

Very disrespectful.

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26 Nov 2017 20:53:50
Well said Grumpy mate usual rubbish being spouted.

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26 Nov 2017 21:12:08
Lennons been one of the few players who gives is all every game, he also offers great cover for a very young RB who needs it. Very poor comment that mate, there's about 10 other players who I'd slate before Lennon. At least he's professional and gives a sh*ep which is more than I can say for a lot of them.

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26 Nov 2017 21:25:24
well said you.

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26 Nov 2017 19:01:43
It's very easy to say players are not good enough so get rid and get new ones, i watched Huddersfield today defending for there club organised making the best team in the league having to work for the 3pts, Burnley on a great run just loosing to a late penalty, my point is we have a far better squad of talent than both of them, but they are fighting for each other all doing there own jobs well and that comes down to the manager, I feel for unsworth I really do but we were lucky to go in level and he should of changed things there and then.

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26 Nov 2017 19:32:21
Agree. Schniederlin and DCL should have been replaced
with Rooney and Sandro. Everyone could see it wasn’t working for DCL he’s a kid of 20 and needs to be played sparingly. Rooney could have at least replaced Schneiderlin, and Sandro after scoring mid week may have had some confidence. I’m afraid to say that Unsworth just hasn’t got it in him, and I worry that no manager will want to take this on, well some for the money, however that’s not a good reason. Who will want to join as a player in the transfer window, no one decent for sure. I think this could be it for our run at top flight unless the board grow a pair.

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26 Nov 2017 19:45:53
With Koeman it was a matter of pride I believe, he was determined to play his number 10's even if it meant out of position and also players out of form, every man woman and their dog could see the players out of form and consistently out of form except Koeman it would seem. Unsworth needs to get experience and he is making mistakes precisely because he loves the Club, he is determined to get it right but doesn't have the experience around him, I do wonder you know is anyone listening to Joe Royle or has he been sidelined. You know I would take Martin O'Neil just to steady the ship, but for Gods sake stop giving these Managers huge long contracts.

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26 Nov 2017 17:59:50
I have said from the start of the season, they are what they are, they have always looked a yard of the pace against any level of opposition, there is no tempo when we have the ball and tempo to win the ball back, plus we have not one stand out performer so that means they are of all the same level.
A new Manager whoever will not improve this lot, it will take January window along with a new Manager but I think we will need 5 new player ready and signed up tto come in the first week
I feel for David Unsworth.

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26 Nov 2017 19:58:21
We have seen the problem with buying too many players at once and trying to bed them all in together.

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26 Nov 2017 17:37:28
yes this is painfull, BUT for all the supporters saying we are relegated, that is even more painfull. we will 100 percent not get relegated. come on guys new manger,2 new strikers in 5-6 weeks, confidence back in the players we got and couple back from injury, mid table easy come may. i love my blues and always will till die.

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26 Nov 2017 17:59:30
I do as well BUT we are walking a tight line mate.

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26 Nov 2017 18:13:05
I think you may be in denial mate. Have you watched us play. It’s shambolic from start to finish and only seems to be getting worse.

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26 Nov 2017 19:10:55
why Is Klassen Sandro rooney and lookman not involved.

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26 Nov 2017 19:21:37
To say we will 100% not get relegated is a dangerous attitude to have, if we keep playing like we are we will definitely get relegated. To concede 9 goals in 4 days to teams who struggle to score is shocking. OK if we win a few games on the bounce we might be in the top half. But if we don't then were fked. We're not winning the games we should be winning, wait til we have to play the top teams again in jan it might be too late by then.

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26 Nov 2017 19:55:40
Look wake up and smell the coffee we conceded 4 goals to one of the poorest scoring teams!
We are in a massive rut and it will take a big personality to get us out of it!
No confidence no form no direction! Board wrangles it is a club in severe downfall!
Sorry guys but wishy washy managers will fail, the next appointment is crucial in this great clubs history!
I read the names every day and fear for the first time in years, we have had no long term stability since Moyes left and really worry that this will continue!
Believe me we are in a relegation battle and our troops at this time do not have the fight in their belly’s!
Unsworth has just followed the same road as Koeman, but will give him credit for giving the lad Bangingime his opportunity and for me has been the most impressive player lately!

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26 Nov 2017 23:58:40
I'll give him credit for giving Bangingime a chance and he has been one of our best players recently but why didn't he play him today instead of the invisible duo of Gueye and SNIDErlin.

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26 Nov 2017 17:22:44
If you are upset by today's game, try to imagine being Davy Klaasen. Not rated highly enough to make the bench for that horror show. Now he must know what despair really is.

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26 Nov 2017 17:12:30
I cannot truley remember, was it martinez or koeman who sold Duffy to blackburn for pocket chang?
At brighton and for the republic he has been outstanding, know we can't do anything about that till JAN and by then it may already be too late, but a c/ back who knows his job is to clear the ball, and NOT piss about on the edge of his own box would be a step in the right diection.

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26 Nov 2017 17:32:56
Always worked for me. If in doubt put it out. And now and again take one for the team, you don't just stand there and wave them through. Two best defenders in my Grand Sons Team are he and another lad and both get man of the match between them most weeks, yes they can play a bit or bring the ball out but invariably they look up see there is nothing on so row Z it goes or down the opposition goalkeepers throat.

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26 Nov 2017 17:48:32
Sounds like he’s in the stoke academy?

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26 Nov 2017 19:55:24
Maybe so Cruncher or maybe 'somewhere else'. The point is you want to hear them and their Coach (s) . You cock up and there is nowhere to hide. And that is how it should be. Everton have been messed up good and proper and need to get back to basics and discipline. Rooney if you are up front stay the F there, Scheiderlin Gueye you are DMs in front of the back 4 protection stay the F there, what was Schneiderlin doing today wandering around like he had lost his sheep dog. Same for most of them to be honest. If a pattern and adjustments is laid out stick with it. Sorry to blather on.

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26 Nov 2017 17:08:46
This isn't a "I told you so" but I've said Ferguson needs to go he's useless as a forward coach. Walsh I think needs to go for simply not buying a striker. Knowing full well Lukaku was going before he actually did. When it comes to the team the list is endless I think everyone needs to go. Niasse and Pickford are the only ones trying. Davies looks like a little hothead. DCL just isn't cutting the mustard and the rest of the first team youth need more experience and should only play when the team is stable. Right now they aren't learning anything constructive.
I say get either Dyche, Allerdyce and I quite like the thought of Leipzig DOF Ralf Rangnick. The team needs a no bull back to basic manager. If not kiss goodbye to the Premiership.
Mirallas, Schneiders, Jags, Williams, Rooney, all need to go. The new boys Sandro, Klassen, Sigurdsson must all be thinking what the hell have I done. Once the team has settled. I'd like to think they will to start showing their value. Keane not sure if he's just crap or nervous. I'd like to think the later and that's why he's making torrid blunders.
Just my opinion.

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26 Nov 2017 18:24:55
Bit harsh on DCL, only 20 and leading the front line with that crap behind him, kid should still be a bit part player learning his trade. Agree on back to basics, said that all along, defend first and utmost then build from that.

Get rid of all mentioned, think Keane just has no confidence as he don’t know who is next to him and they are crap who ever it is any way, no partnership.

New boys need time, look at Niasse?!?

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26 Nov 2017 19:09:17
Klaassen hasn't exactly shown much to be fair.

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26 Nov 2017 19:30:55
DLC was pants today to be fair, great potential but way off the standard we should expect at our club.

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26 Nov 2017 16:51:06
Need to identify the manager we want and the ln throw whatever money is needed to secure, even it means paying £10m a year to get them. I feel sorry for Pickford having to take the ball out the net 9 times this week due to the inept players in front of him.

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26 Nov 2017 17:02:30
Why did I miss something? Sure we only lost 4-1 today so that means he picked it out 4 times this week yes?

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26 Nov 2017 17:10:14
Wish I could forget Atalanta happened too.

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26 Nov 2017 17:11:27
Yes you've missed a whole 90 woeful minutes Thursday we lost 5-1 didn't we. Fluffy included that.

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26 Nov 2017 17:11:57
Plus 5 times on Thursday.

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26 Nov 2017 17:19:25
Pickford from a relegated Club, Keene from a yo yo Club, the rest unwanted by their Clubs and snatched our hands off for the prices we paid. We have/ had two Managers (one interim) who were top class defenders in their day. Yet we have a Team that has no confidence and are shipping goals for fun. Now you tell me, because I am baffled! In the old days the buck stopped at the top but now a days it filters down and those at the top protect themselves any way they can. Surely today against a side that couldn't get past the halfway line in previous matches but puts 4 past us, it must be the last straw. Do we have anyone astute, hard and savvy enough at boardroom level to start a root and branch clear out, because from where I/ we sit. This will just go on and on.

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26 Nov 2017 17:24:46
Wasn’t it Robles picking the ball out the net against Atalanta?

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26 Nov 2017 17:35:07
Robles played Thursday.

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26 Nov 2017 18:26:29
That’s my point, OP said 9 times out the net, he didn’t play Thursday, all the clowns quick to give it to me there wasn’t ya hahaha.

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26 Nov 2017 16:50:59
How is everyone feeling about the championship next year?

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26 Nov 2017 17:06:24
Well Cardiff, Villa, Wolves, Reading, Bristol City all not far from me. Just need the "AA Guide To Championship Grounds" for xmas. hope not.

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26 Nov 2017 16:17:53
Bet Moyes is foaming at the mouth at the thought of kick starting his west ham career on Wednesday night. I hope Mr Moshiri shares his plans to fix this mess asap, I don't care if its through carrier pigeon or through that gobsh1#3 Jim white. We need need a solution fast. Someone make a decision!

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26 Nov 2017 15:59:24
Ah well I must look on the bright side we can't get any worse ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

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26 Nov 2017 16:55:10
Said the fans confidently of Aston Villa, Barnsley, Birmingham, Blackburn, Blackpool. Bolton, Bradford, Burnley, Cardiff, Charlton, Coventry, Derby, Fulham, Hull, Ipswich, Leeds, Leicester, Man City, Middlesbrough, Newcastle, Norwich, Notts Forest, Oldham, Portsmouth, QPR, Reading, Sheff Utd, Sheff Wed, Southampton, Sunderland, Swindon, Watford, WBA, WHU, Wigan, Wimbledon, Wolves. oh and the Captain of the Titanic.

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26 Nov 2017 15:49:46
I known this is going to be unpopular but Unsworth has to leave Everton. Unless the manager coming in is going to take him as his no2 then for his own progression he has to either go and manage at a lower league and learn the trade or go and be a no2 with a top class manager. He has shown his inexperience for this job and if he wants to come back and manage this great club he needs to go away and learn. Putting him back in the U23s will be good for them but not for Everton.

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26 Nov 2017 16:00:33
Wished they never appointed him in the first place mate.

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26 Nov 2017 16:58:22
Agree GB but hindight is a wonderful thing. Who do you want as a manager GB?

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26 Nov 2017 17:11:14
We need someone pronto mate, Dyche, Tuchel or the German anybody mate who can stabilize this team they are shot at the mo and we really need to get behind them staring Wed at Goodison mate.

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26 Nov 2017 17:11:57
Which manager would you like mate.

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26 Nov 2017 17:22:22
I would dangle a big carrot in front of Villas Boas, if we was going to pay £10 Million comp for Silva, use that money to tempt Boas in, personally I think the most damage is being done at boardroom level, have a sweep out there, then address the shite we are in.

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26 Nov 2017 17:29:11
Cannot disagree with any of that mate may it happen quick.

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26 Nov 2017 15:48:38
We are an absolute disgrace. The club needs a shake up from top to bottom. Can't defend, can't attack, no passion, desire or fight. Can't appoint a manager. We are the laughing stock of the football world. Never been more disgusted with Everton in my life.

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26 Nov 2017 16:03:40
I am just really sad and also angry. What executive sense does it make to bin your manager without having a concrete replacement. The whole Club top down needs all the rot cutting out.

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26 Nov 2017 15:45:56
The sooner we realise relegation is real the better. I never thought I'd say this but it's time for Allardyce. The derby is going to be hell.

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26 Nov 2017 15:45:56
What manager is going to want to come to Everton.

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26 Nov 2017 16:35:12
There will be no shortage of applicants. The problem is, those we don't want will apply, and those we do want will apply with demands, or be happy to stay where they are.

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26 Nov 2017 15:40:41
At this very moment, I Hate you Everton Football Club. Where is the desire, the passion, the hunger #! &#! Where! You are embarrassing the supporters, the Fans, the die hards. I get the Mickey taken out of me about our lack of silverware at work, now they are into me about being relegated. Please do something, show something, anything. We cannoy go on like this!

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26 Nov 2017 15:49:44
How can anyone take the Mickey for lack of silverware when we are one of the most with it, even if not modern day, we still have plenty.

And let’s not forget all the silverware used at the dinner services, that got to add up the total.

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26 Nov 2017 16:04:51
Sorry not winning any silverware in 22 years and being a big club. Hope that clears that matter up!

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26 Nov 2017 16:13:21
Could be worse, could be 23 years 🤪.

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26 Nov 2017 17:01:43
Well we could have a Championship winners trophy to put in the cabinet next season. gulp.

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26 Nov 2017 15:38:57
Well its Sunday, its everton and its yet another night that will be filled with alcohol and tears.
Im not even going to comment on the team as it is completely useless.
Actually i will say just one thing. if charlie austin gets man of the match and his team are made to look like brazil then there is no hope left in our squad.

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26 Nov 2017 15:37:24
should have got moyes till end season he knows the club and some of the players he would have steadyed the ship, just till end season koeman kenwright walsh and moshiri have a lot to answer for they have destroyed us signed a load of crap and let lukaku walk with no replacement not sure who can help us now but i think its to big for dyche at the moment.

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26 Nov 2017 16:19:39
Moyes will be laughing his **** off at the thought of playing us on Wednesday. WBA win Tuesday and we lose Wednesday and its bottom 3 again. Good luck to the new manager whoever you are. you will need lots of it.

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26 Nov 2017 17:29:01
I feel sorry for you guys at the minute even when Everton haven’t been a technically gifted side you always had heart ad desire, fellas like but dunc who’d play their heart out, at the minute too many players don’t look bothered. Schneiderlin needs an actual beating his attitude is sickening.

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26 Nov 2017 15:32:58
Reality time. Southampton should have scored 7 or 8. This is the worst squad we have had in my lifetime. They are incapable and unwilling. No manager will help. We have to prepare for the championship. I'd go with Karanka if we could. Knows the championship and got out of it. We are 100% going down. All season it's looked like we've been playing with 10 men regardless of opposition or home or away. Awful, spineless, and most alarmingly they are simply not good enough. The summer of 2017 is the summer which will change our club forever. We all thought it was the change of a positive future, turns out it was the change that will be very difficult to reverse and come back from.

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26 Nov 2017 15:30:55
Now please, will someone go and beg Sam Allerdice to change his mind, don't give a toss what the purists think.

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26 Nov 2017 15:43:31
I agree but I think it’s beyond him as well. We are going down for sure so maybe get in a manager who knows the championship.

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26 Nov 2017 15:55:53
I said about SA on the 4th, a lot slated me for it. Not my choice for a permanent manager but look the mess we in. SA would go back to basics, snydiearse would be dropped with them performances with no hesitation by SA. All this arsing around and phone calls to Jim White is a joke. 3 weeks since I said about him, 3 weeks of sorting out that crap lost. I said we would regret looking for fancy managers, we just need stabilising.

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26 Nov 2017 15:28:15
Get Dyche in now, don't care how much compensation Burnley want, give them anything they want, we are going down, Unsworth hasn't for a clue and the players don't care.

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26 Nov 2017 15:34:09
Doubt he'd want to take such a massive risk given he's got Burnley flying while there's clearly something hugely wrong at the core of our club. Not sure whether it's Walsh having too much involvement, resentment towards Rooney from other players or something else, but I think it's gone beyond just a new manager.

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26 Nov 2017 15:38:41
My opinion is that from top to bottom the club have made grave mistakes in recruitment. Rooney was never a replacement for Romelu, Barkley alienated, and no-one there is good enough to replace him, and defense has been neglected. No matter who is brought in, there is no way to U-turn this squad around. For me we need a manager who will attract the right player, and Everton will have to seriously spend the way out of trouble.

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26 Nov 2017 15:40:41
The Board have GOT to get someone in now after that debacle.

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26 Nov 2017 15:45:26
Completely agree. Dyche is by far the best we could get at the moment, if Silva isn't happening. Need fresh ideas from a calm, tactical motivator, not afraid to drop the dross. That for me is Dyche. Having said that, if he's not available, even Pulis is looking like a solid choice to save us from this constant decline. Need someone who can instill the basics of defence. If we have any defenders left after today's utter debacle.

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26 Nov 2017 15:59:15
Jcl agree with a lot there mate, aging defence, I said against Rooney and to invest the money on him in younger talents, people wanted him for shirt sales and what he can pass on to the youth, all he shown the youth is how he’s deteriorated.

Team a mess.

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26 Nov 2017 15:28:06
It really doesn't matter which manager comes in, were gone.

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26 Nov 2017 15:25:04
It comes to something when I look for an excuse so I don’t have to watch Everton. WTF is going on? People are constantly taking the piss out of us. The football is shambollic and so is the board! A new manager should have been in line after the sacking, just like a striker should have been in after Lukaku! Disgusting!

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26 Nov 2017 15:29:31
Should have kept him for one more season we would have got the same money for him next year whoever let him go without a replacement should be flogged.

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26 Nov 2017 15:15:50
well we have just made a side that hadn't won in 7 games and struggled to score look like Barcelona Unsworth is out of his depth Lewin isn't good enough and how he wasn't dragged off at half time today baffled me schniderlin jags Keane Williams gueye mirralas infact every single one of them do not deserve to wear the shirt I am embarrassed i am angry i am upset that a season that promised so much can turn into such a shambles and at the time koeman took the blame (Walsh got away with murder) but now 1 month on it's moshiri and kenwrights fault they need to deliver something extraordinary to appease us fans because I know for a fact if unsworth is in charge on Wed night we will lose.

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26 Nov 2017 15:44:48
just watched another woeful surrender by a shower who disgrace our royal blue shirt. everyone of them should be ashamed. i can't see any manager do anything with this squad of under achievers. feel sorry for rhino, thought he would steady the ship but this is way beyond him. to my mind it's looking like it's the end of our top league status. we are witnessing the slow and agonising collapse of our club
and it hurts. we are being embarrassed game after game by frauds who think they are footballers.

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26 Nov 2017 15:45:00
Bluey pretty much spot on mate. Sad times ahead.

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26 Nov 2017 15:11:44
prepare for the championship people this is totally awful, keane is rubbish out of his depth, williams jags rubbish and finished mirrallas rubbish schniederlin rubbish no fight n spirit unsworth looks lost we are doomed can see us beating anyone got out of jail against bournmouth palace and watford weare going down.

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26 Nov 2017 15:06:04
No Fight, no heart! Relagation written all over us . That is not being negative, just honest!

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26 Nov 2017 15:05:32
This is the worst Everton side I have ever watched and I've watched Ian Marshal and Mike Langley
It's looking more and more like this is the year!
I can't take anymore of my Red mates feeling sorry for me it's gone past taking the piss😩😩😩.

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26 Nov 2017 14:55:41
Also dcl is garbage Upfront i'd put him in centre mid he isn't a striker.

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26 Nov 2017 14:52:10
Keane and Williams should get their p45 on the coach home 2 exact same goals I've under 12's who mark better we must have conceaded the most easiest goals this season this team is affecting my whole life I'm like a beating bear every day I really need sedated I fear for us against Liverpool.

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26 Nov 2017 14:51:23
I am disgusted it what am seeing this is a joke how is this being allowed by the owners the team selection is dier the players are walking and they look beaten before thw kick off by body language won't me long till the fans start on the players at goodison beacause there is no effort.

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26 Nov 2017 15:07:09
It's disgraceful. They look unfit, unwilling to compete and just a shambles. Where's the screaming and shouting from the dugout? Ferguson just sitting there? What does he actually do at the club? Unsworth is way out of his depth, I know he can only pick from the squad but at least give them fight and passion. Fans at least want those 2 things. They've all given up and something is gravely wrong at our club deep down. Zombies on the Walking dead have more get up and go than this lot.

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26 Nov 2017 14:14:22
The players brought in just aren't good enough and the rest are over the hill there's no fight and we look clueless going forward and panic-stricken at the back we make teams look like world beaters and with the Derby coming up I'm going into hibernation.

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26 Nov 2017 14:05:57
Wow this is bad and belive me ifs gona get worse.

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26 Nov 2017 13:54:46
We need the son of God in because jesus christ we are in need of a miracle on a plus side the tickets are cheaper in the championship.

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26 Nov 2017 13:42:28
10 mins in and I'm already touching cloth! This is worrying.

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26 nov 2017 13:24:04
which of the three do you the people choose and the poeople chose barabas.

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26 Nov 2017 13:15:51
What is it that Managers see in Schneiderlin that the rest of us that watch week in week out cannot. Apart from when he first arrived, he has been a liability in front of the defence. If we do not get at least a draw against this lot today with Schneiderlin in the Team then it is all down to Unsworth.

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26 Nov 2017 14:35:11
And if we do get at least a draw I'm sure you'll think of something else he's to blame for.

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26 Nov 2017 12:25:41
This may be an unpopular opinion, but it is mine nevertheless. Out of all the managers linked with the job, Martin O’Niell is my pick. He’s no world beater, but he knows how to organise a side and he would certainly stop the rot that has taken hold here. He takes no messing and has bags of experience in the premier league. He’s a safe bet - what we need right now. Not an unproven punt that may go horribly wrong. Give him the rest of the season and maybe the next, see what he can do.

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26 Nov 2017 12:15:36
I've woken up today as an optimist. A 4-0 win today will take us to 10th and in the top half of the league. COYB.

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26 Nov 2017 12:23:30
Go back to sleep jk.

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26 Nov 2017 12:38:27
Ha, I love a bit of optimism and I felt it too - until I saw the team sheet 🙄 I hope to god I’m proved wrong, but there’s a direct correlation between us getting battered every week and selecting the same, unpopular players every week.

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26 Nov 2017 11:27:27
I have just been thinking about what is or is not happening ( whatever the case may be ) at the top of our club, namely the so called differences of opinions between FM and BK.

We as supporters are very quick to highlight these differences at every opportunity we can, FM wants to appoint XYZ whilst BK wants to appoint ABC as manager. As soon as a manager gets mentioned we seem happy to put them into one or the others camps.

One common theme that seems to appear time and time again is the fact that they need to take advice about what steps to take next. This seems to of been embraced by all on these forums, myself included, we all agree they need to be taking some sort of advice.

Over the years both FM and BK have become successful business men in their own rights, To have the level of success that both these men have had they would have advisors in place.

The thing with advisors is that they know which hand feeds them and which hand gives them a pat on the head. The chances of both these men only taking advice from one person would be slim it would probably be from a team of advisors all working to a brief given to them by whoever is paying their fees.

As forum members we ourselves have great difficulty agreeing on who we would like as our next manager, this job would probably be easier for us if we knew what the criteria was that the club are looking for.

Because of the fact that we know nothing about what the club is really looking for we tend to make our own assumptions, especially when a manager gets linked with us. the first thing that happens is that manager gets put into either the BK camp or the FM camp depending on the type of manager he is. By doing this we have little option but to say that there is conflict at the top where there is probably none.

Each and every one of us can pick a manager who we think would be right for the club, but what about cost? what about terms? and most importantly what about availability? What happens if a manager just does not exist that can meet the full criteria? what parts of it should we drop? and the million dollar question what if the one you advise to go for just does not want the job?

The one thing we can probably assure ourselves on is that we will be taking advice, what we do not know is how many people are giving that advice, What we need to remember is that any advice given, will be in our best interests, as perceived by the advisors own interpretation of the criteria given to themselves. The more advisors we have the more interpretations there are, hence the more managers linked.

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26 Nov 2017 11:44:58
Totally agree mate, and where does this rubbish come from re Mr Moshiri and Bill, the rags of course, all these tabloid crap papers are the same, one comes out and says that there is a rift on the Board and all of a sudden its headline news and they all follow up and print it, when really its just the usual rubbish these sort of papers spout, i know we don't get that as much info from Everton as we should as fans but to me mate no news is good news, i am absolutely sure that that the Board and in particular Mr Moshiri and Bill have the clubs interests at heart.

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26 Nov 2017 12:31:01
You're right GB,

I see some idiot has put a thumbs down to the fact that we have advisors. Probably did it in-between school homework which explains why they have not posted reasons for disagreeing.

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26 Nov 2017 13:02:28
Good post Grumpy. I am struggling to think of a rumour about Everton in the papers in the last few years that has been correct. Whether that be players or managers none of the rubbish printed has come to fruition.
Even Lulakau going to Chelsea which was rumoured for 12 months right UP to the day he signed for Man U. Mata and Witsel 2 summers ago. Costa in January all tripe. Am I the only one who finds it exciting that we are getting a new manager but have absolutely no idea who that might be. And knowing Everton it will be a big surprise.

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26 Nov 2017 13:44:06
I'm fully with you on that one Smit mate.

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26 Nov 2017 11:01:18
Only quoting from the rags. So don't hold me accountable please.
But I'm reading that our 3 top targets are Martin O'Neill, Tony Pulis and David Unsworth. Wow and that's not a good wow. Unsworth I'm not going to slate Unsworth because he was literally thrown into this mess. But if they are our 3 TOP Targets then we are in a sorry state. What does everyone else think. Ed's included please.

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26 Nov 2017 11:24:09
Don't believe all you read in the rags mate they have no more of a clue than us who will be our next manager.

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26 Nov 2017 11:59:50
Fingers crossed they will pull a gem that nobody saw coming!

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26 Nov 2017 12:02:22
If I was BK I would be looking for a cheap option that cost me little but would at least increase my share holdings because I come first. If I was FM I would be looking for a return from my investment and looking higher than the cheap options because I also come first. At the end of the day money and power will win. If I had my chance to put my money in one camp it would be with FM.

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26 Nov 2017 10:59:33
Three man shortlist apparently O'Neill, Pullis and Unsworth, not inspiring I know, but this search has shed new light on our board and the Shambles they appear to be in!

The lunatics have taken over the asylum!

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25 Nov 2017 16:46:30
Hey Ed 025,with Mr Moshiri now seemingly running things at Goodison with his choice for manager and rumblings going on about S W etc about to loose his job, what do you reckon mate on Bill stepping down, i know you like myself are a great admirer of Bill Kenright who is a True Blue through and through and I for one will be forever grateful for what he has done for our Great Club, cheers mate.

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{Ed025's Note - i dont think bill will step down anytime soon GB, even though he gets grief from a lot of supporters he is blue through and through and while he believes he can help the club he will stay around mate..

26 Nov 2017 07:57:49
After what he has done for the club I would think he will want to be in charge when the new stadium is finished. Maybe then he will be happy his work is done.

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26 Nov 2017 08:53:39
with you there smit mate, so glad we have him.

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26 Nov 2017 09:57:11
There is a lot of negativity around this club, some of it justified but how anyone can not see what this guy has done for this club over the years, granted he has made mistakes but who hasn't. Some people are never happy.

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26 Nov 2017 11:25:22
Good post smit mate.

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Premier League Match Previews Sunday 26th November 2017

26 Nov 2017 04:10:03
{Ed's Note - we have posted a new article entitled, Premier League Match Previews Sunday 26th November 2017

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25 Nov 2017 23:44:02
Dear Santa
I have been a very good boy this year. All I want for Christmas is AVB and for him to bring Hulk with him.

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26 Nov 2017 01:24:02
Please no.

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