Everton Banter Archive June 26 2016

 

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26 Jun 2016 20:09:06
Hi Ed shame for S. Coleman today hope he's still with us next year because I rate him very highly what do you think.

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{Ed025's Note - im not so sure you know AB, 2 years ago i was touting him as the best full back in europe but since then he seems to have gone downhill, i dont know whether it was the united rumours or other factors but he does not seem to be the same hungry young man who i seen then and greatly admired, it may be me though mate as i have an inflated opinion of all our players..

26 Jun 2016 21:48:45
Hi Ed your right he had a quiet season for us last year but still what a quality fullback makes my team anyday.

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{Ed025's Note - i know what you mean AB but im very critical of players who i think are not giving 100% mate, i would love to be proved wrong though..

26 Jun 2016 22:00:50
he had no competion so he was compliance think we need right back.

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26 Jun 2016 22:29:16
I hear you Ed but I think its not in his nature to give anything less than 100%. Great player and seems down to earth to me. Never says anything that he shouldn't to the media even when he was heavily linked with a move away.

Always respected Everton and never said anything wrong. Seemed grateful to Everton from what I've seen anyway. Developed well under Moyes and first season under Martinez. We all know defense wasn't Martinez strong point. Towards the end of last season he Coleman didn't look enthusiastic in an Everton shirt but hey, who did?

Top player and top professional imho.

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{Ed025's Note - you may be right about the martinez factor NBTB, he seems to have stopped being the rampaging footballer he was 2 seasons ago where he would take on defenders and deliver quality crosses, he has become very safe in his approach and tends to play the ball sideways or back most of the time, lets hope ronnie can get the best out of him mate..

27 Jun 2016 08:19:41
I think he looks short of confidence and that showed in the game against France, how often did he run at their defence and seemed to want to pass it on at the earliest opportunity, maybe the lad need a beak and a chance to recharge the batteries before the season starts.
However it is important to sign some healthy competition for the RB position.

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27 Jun 2016 08:52:14
IMO RMs tactics had a big on both him and Baines plus look what he had in front of him. Both flanks under DM attacked a fair amount with overlapping fullbacks this seem to disappear once RM took over. Seamus looks happiest going forward not tippy tapping around half way to me it seemed as though his natural game looked stifled and he suffered as a consequence. let's see what happens when RK employs his tactics which IMO will suit both fullbacks better.

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27 Jun 2016 09:25:33
Sa90 has it spot on. Under Moyes, Pienaar and Osman had no pace but were regular 1st team. We would defend deep then counter very quickly by Pienaar and Osman joining up with the forward (s) . however, rather than always running or passing square or backwards as under Martinez, it was the fullbacks job to rampage down the wings with Osman and Pienaar holding the ball up until the full backs were more like a forward winger. Both Osman and Pienaar became quite profficient at holding the ball up and when Martinez took over, they had to change their game plan completely. This is why some fans got on their backs. The new system did not suit what they had been doing for 4 or 5 seasons. Osman was often caught in posession and fans turned on him. Pienaar too to a degree. Yet I think it was one of the Europa League away where Martinez played Osman in the holding midfield position and we had one of our best performances in the whole of Martinez's time at the club. I expected to see Osman play there again, but he never did. In that game he was responsible for 2 or 3 interceptions and passes out of defence that resulted in goals. I think they call them assists these days. It is a shame because he is even slower now and probably at best a Championship player.

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27 Jun 2016 12:31:55
Wakka (and others) , I think your spot on, Coleman needs competition to push him for the starting role or atleast give him something to worry about. I don't think Hibbo is that player even if we did sign an extension with him he wouldn't push Coleman enough to pressure him.

What do you guys think of Thomas Meunière, the Belgian RB? Reports linking him with Napoli, Lazzio, Sassulo and Middlseborough so I'm unsure if he'd like to play second fiddle.

I'm a big fan of letting the youth players come into the squad and Kenny said he'd like a crack at the first team. Do we go for a new player or bring youth through considering we have Browning, Kenny and Pennington (not to mention Holgate) who can play RB.



Not that we need LB's but any news on Jordan Luakaku's transfer movement?

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26 Jun 2016 16:10:28
Just watched Seamus' post match interview, poor lad looked heartbroken. Thought he 've across very well though, showing more maturity than his years suggest.
Have a good break Seamus lad and see you in August fresh and ready for a new era at Goodison.

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26 Jun 2016 18:30:14
He has captained his country well, could he be Everton's next captain?
He has youth and experience on his side new manager new captain, why not.

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26 Jun 2016 18:36:01
I think jags should remain our captain. Done nothing wrong to deserve to be stripped of it in my eyes. Gives his all in every game, gets stuck in and puts his body on the line when needed.

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26 Jun 2016 21:20:36
Sorry but jags isn't a great captain I think he's too nice, even though I hate it he doesn't contest decisions or have words with refs when every other club captain will harass the ref during games, I mean I even remember at goodison mark noble last season constantly in the refs ear and jags doing nothing to combat it, I've seen it many times. As I say I hate it and it was supposed to be getting stamped out but it hasn't and we're too nice/ easy to ref.

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26 Jun 2016 22:55:17
Jags is a very good captain. as for contesting decisions, didn't he follow the ref about complaining the ball was out against man city in the league cup 2nd leg. he may not be a baller and screamer, but his having a quiet word with team mates is just as affective I think.

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26 Jun 2016 22:58:11
Also, why should jags follow the nobles and Terry in harassing a ref it was ment to be stamped out. maybe jags just doesn't whine at every opportunity like others. his moan against man city was well justified imo.

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27 Jun 2016 12:36:31
I agree, I think Jags is a good captain. I do think he maybe needs to be a little more aggressive with players such as stone when he wonders off or leaves a gap but during the spell jags was injured we had Barry step in as Vice captain which I think is just as good due to his experience in the league.

I think Jags deserve to be the captain of Everton, as mentioned above he always puts In a shift and plays when he needs to. Plus she scored that screamer against Liverpool in the 89th minute or so a couple season back.

You have my vote jags!

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27 Jun 2016 11:56:36
I've had a ST in the paddock 30yrs mate and jags isn't vocal, I'm not saying be a Terry, if we concede he drops his head like everyone else, noble was a example he sprinted to the ref everytime a foul was committed, jags did nothing easy for the ref.

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27 Jun 2016 13:08:12
Dentie because it hasn't been stamped out that's my point, we're too nice easy to ref we don't get in the refs ear like others.

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26 Jun 2016 13:06:45
So some Italian ITK journalist appears convinced that Arsenal have agreed terms with Lukaku, followed with "lets see how Chelsea respond". Have the club been contacted? Likely to be made up, and would we really sell to Arsenal.

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26 Jun 2016 12:56:21
Okay lads, its evident to most of the footballing world at this point that lukaku has a 'pretty poor' first touch.

thinking back to the days of Nikica Jelavic i belive the guy scored a majority of his goald in his first season with his first touch.

back to the Moyes era for that one but if our coaches could teach Rom a thing or two about that then maybe we'd have some improvments and more goal of the season contenders!

(one can only wish)

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26 Jun 2016 13:10:15
Koeman and his team will sort it.

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27 Jun 2016 08:21:48
I don't believe first touch is something you can teach, you either have it or not! Its just some players have a better touch than others.

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26 Jun 2016 11:50:18
What does anyone think of krychowiak from Poland, think he's getting on a bit but looked a very good player and very cool on the ball.

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26 Jun 2016 12:48:29
he looks older than he is, the lads only 26 years old. i know paper talk has linked him with a move with Arsenal for a season or so and i believe bigger fish are looking to pry him away from Sevilla. if he leaves i think it'll be to a big club.

I agree though, looks a very good player from what I've seen.

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26 Jun 2016 09:24:11
Getting a bit boring now can we please stop calling our ex manager the clueless one and brown shoes and give the man a break and show a bit of respect it's pathetic and your making yourselves and the club look like fools enough is enough move on.

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26 Jun 2016 12:47:08
Well said sky.

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26 Jun 2016 13:11:49
I love brown shoes but currently (since March) wear flip flops as often as I can.

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