Everton Banter Archive January 25 2013

25 Jan 2013 21:41:45
Ed do you think we will get a decent permanent signing in, eg a player for over £3m? {Ed025's Note - i think we will mate, but it may be loans with option to buy scenario,s, as this seems to be the latest fad..

What makes you think that the price of a player is linked to his ability?
By your reckoning that makes Andy Carroll a world beater and Darren Gibson a Sunday League hoofer.
I am guessing that you are in your early teens, and, like many children these days, you know the price of everything and the value of nothing.

EFCWhitesocks

25 Jan 2013 21:17:02
Great that every time I read were in for becchio austin or some other championship player, lets be brutally honest if they could hack it in the prem wouldn't they have been tapped up by someone else by now.. isn't like were gonnna break the wage budget for them so they're probably not getting sniffed around by anyone else.. But hopefully with the TV money we can get some better players next year, were pretty solid atm anyway, we just need a cm

Cahill?
Joe EFC

Everyone deserves a chance in my view, as there may be someone who can step up to the challenge an prove themselves. We all have to start at the bottom of the ladder and work our way up.

TT

25 Jan 2013 19:15:55
I have looked at our remaining fixtures for the season and I think our target has got to be 63/64pts if we want top 4. what's everyone else think we need or will get.

Robbie

Hav a few big guns away so will be tough, utd, spurs, aresnal and of course liverpool, if we make top 5, we wil hav earned it, true blue, efc 4 life

And chelski away

Usually top 4 you would need around 70 points. We are on 38 now so your looking at another 32 points, would be tough with only 15 games left, we would need to win 9 or 10 games and draw 3-4 and only lose 1 or 2.
Tough ask but we have to believe. Gut feeling? We will finish 5th or 6th and regret these draws we dominated! Especially Fulham away!

25 Jan 2013 18:41:45
Hi Eds and fellow Toffees.
Just a change of topic from transfers.

If an investor was found and they wanted to build a new stadium or redevelop Goodison what capacity do you think would be suitable.
I am reliably told that big isn't always beautiful! ;)

Thoughts?

AW {Ed025's Note - 60,000 for me AW..

Yeahh, about 60,000 would do me...50,000 minimum.

Murf

Agree with Ed025 60,000

Robbie

Could we fill 60k though? {Ed025's Note - i feel that if continue to progress, that we could do it justice, all the big games it would be mostly full, and dont forget the other markets out there, such as boxing, pop concerts etc.. that will increase revenue..

We'd never fill a 50,000 seater never mind 60,000. We're lucky to sell out for home game against man united and the reds {Ed025's Note - its not just about football though...the commercial side of things is very lucrative..

26 Jan 2013 13:02:32
Personally, I would love to see us do what Juventus have done in Italy. Their new ground is by no means the biggest, but it does have the crowd close to the pitch & generates a fantastic, intimidating atmosphere for the visitors. Juve's full season unbeaten run last year was down to the effect of having the new home, according to the experts. So, as I tell any new girlfriend, bigger does not always mean better!
Toffee Tezza

25 Jan 2013 18:27:01
Cardiff city in debt to tune of 83 million.

Makes our worries look small in comparison.

AW

25 Jan 2013 17:47:05
Nice to see we have Atkinson for Sat's game... awful ref

25 Jan 2013 16:07:36
Way too much negativity on this page, people post a rumour and then get shot down for it straight away!

Or misspell the players name and get a sarcastic comment back

26 Jan 2013 03:15:31
leave mike alone

25 Jan 2013 14:04:35
It's all a bit negative at the moment, which is understandable off the back of two games without scoring, seeing 2 teams getting to a final that we are clearly better than. And no transfer business done yet.... YET!!

But seriously lads, we have many reasons to be cheerful.

We are going into the second half of the season looking ahead and not behind.

Our neighbours are playing catchup with us and not the other way around

Our top players are on long contracts which leaves us strong on and off the pitch

Still a chance of silverware this season

2 clean sheets in a row to build from

There are many more great things to pick out from the season so far and indeed plenty to look forward to. Starting with Bolton and the countries best away support bar none

So come on lads our team needs us to help them to do what they always do at this time of the Year.... Win games

Let's play our part and enjoy watching our boys play theirs

COYB
Toffee ace {Ed025's Note - great post ace..

Nothing to be cheerful about tp {Ed025's Note - stop being a miserable sod!, we are 5th, in the best league in the world tp..

With no new signings you ace and degsy must be on happy pills we need signings two draws against awful teams were playing crap one dimensional football and our "best" striker is a half a season wonder tp {Ed025's Note - it beats the misery pills you seem to have overdosed on tp..

I dnt think its negativity people, I think all us blues are a bit frustated wit last few results and wit the otherside catchin up and teams strengtenin, we are panicin a little, we now know for certain that 7 wil not be good nuf to get into europe, we stil hav to travel to, anfield, spurs, utd and aresnal so it will be tough but lets hav little faith, TRUE BLUE EFC 4 LIFE

Wow we are grumpy today. 5 disagrees. and probably a few more after this.

Come on tp, show a little love mate

Toffee ace

Going down the pub with tp much be a barrel of laughs

Tp here please note that email with my name on and which refers to happy pills was not from me .some koppite is using my tp could you check it out ed please tp.. {Ed025's Note - i will try and check it mate, try and use the e-mail field in future mate..

25 Jan 2013 19:20:21
TP - 5 th in the league, some amazing skillful players, ahead of the Koppites and Arsenal, what the f##k do you need to put a smile on your face

We will have new players in before the end of Jan so cheer up and be thankful that we aren't Villa because two years ago we were on par with them

Two words for ye

Pessimist
Optimist

I know which one I am mate

Degsy {Ed025's Note - TP called and said it was not him who posted that degsy, im trying to check it out, to see if we have an imposter mate..

25 Jan 2013 19:39:51
My apologies TP, To all the other negative pessimistic doom mongers please read my post above

Degsy

25 Jan 2013 09:58:13
Hey ed! Only 6 days to go! You got any juicy news of potential incomings? Are we in talks with anyone? Anything at all? Cheers ed! {Ed025's Note - i would love to say yes mate...but it looks like a last minute free for all to me, but im still confident we will do business..

25 Jan 2013 09:17:33
Lets not forget that the team we have now, is the same team we were all praising at the start of the season.

The same team that ripped teams apart, the same players that looked like they could win the league, the same team that all the pundits were saying were playing the best football in the league and could not see anyone else beating us to 4th.

We had players injured and still were dominating games and creating loads of chances.

So what happened? Could it be that The answer lies in how negative some fans have become? Could it be that Goodison has become Quiet? Could it be that all the negativity is affecting the players? Could it be that the players started to believe their own hype and started turning up for games thinking they were going to walk it without putting in any effort?

I don't know, but what I do know is something must have gone on. How can a team go from playing world beating football, to the performances we have seen against Swansea and Southampton? No to mention all then 1 Half performances in the couple of months before.

My Opinion is the players now know that certain players will get a game no matter how poor they play, Moyes has his Favourites and the rest of the squad know that, this must have created some kind of Negativity.

For me Once Neville went to Rb and Fellaini dropped into Cm we looked better. The last 2 games Fellaini has had to be moved around and Osman to try to make up for Phil Neville, What Moyes needs to do is just play Neville RB, if he does not want to drop him then he must play there, After all he marked Bale outta the game twice in that position.

We don't need a Midfielder in this Window, we have Fellaini, what we do need is a Striker, but even that we have if Moyes will just play Vellios or Vic up top. Some times Moyes has to take the blame for some of the decisions he is making. I know we all love him and he has moved this great club forward, but he does not help himself with some of his decisions.

Jelevic needs to stay in the centre, just like Sir Alex told RVP, Lets just hope Super Kev can stay fit.

Sorry for the long Post and hope I didn't upset none of my Fellow Blues, Respect, its now or never for us this season. {Ed025's Note - good post that mate, cant say i agree with all of it, but some really good points..

25 Jan 2013 08:17:30
would you fellow blues ever welcome back john ruddy at everton.. he's a terrific keeper and howard just doesn't seem to be interested anymore... I would definitely bring him back to goodison {Ed025's Note - why dont you think howard is not interested anymore?...i think he is playing well..

Every goal keeper makes mistake, all you fans who have a go at howard (and moyes) hoping we have a change of personnel, will reget it when they're gone.
can we just stop with the "who shall we get to replace??" until that said person is gone then its not even worth thinking about, the whole team are doing great at the moment so be a TRUE BLUE and get behind the squad we have!!!!

Howard has made a few mistakes yes, but every keeper does. Did you not see the Southampton Game? He was Exceptional. {Ed025's Note - your right..

25 Jan 2013 09:45:52
Whats going on Ed with people slamming Howard, he is class and just needs a bit of competition

Degsy {Ed025's Note - i think he is a quality keeper degsy..and for me, our priorities lie elsewhere, i can see the benefits of a good back up, but for me a DM and a striker are top of the list..

We already have a DM Ed and he is too negative. Imagine having 2. Would be like watching paint dry {Ed025's Note - not all DM,s are negative mate, look at players like toure, they are still allowed to go forward..

Reason I said howard was not interested because yes he has made a few mistakes but he's got no one to be compared to, so he is playing at his own pace and just looks as if he's not really bothered... if there was some one who could give him a run for his money as 2nd choice keeper, it might make him look more UP for the games... not necessarily slating howard, he's a terrific professional and has been since we signed him.. {Ed025's Note - he looked bothered to me on monday mate..

25 Jan 2013 14:47:08
I think what he is trying to say Ed is that Howard is class but we would get even more out of the guy if he knew someone was waiting for him to make a cock up, so that they could step into his shoes, it would get an extra few percent out of the guy as it would do with any player who was as proud and professional as Tim.

Degsy {Ed025's Note - i agree that competition does no harm degs..

Why do you think anyone wouldn't welcome him back? he never did anything against the club or bad for the club!
one of my mates is good mates with john and moyes told him a few years ago that he would never make it in the prem, so I think it would be more john saying no to coming back