Everton Banter Archive March 24 2014

24 Mar 2014 15:33:24
I see the notts forest manager has been sacked and Warnock is inline to replace him, so happy to see that we have so much stability these days because the managerial roundabout exspecially in the championship is a bit of a joke, the constant sacking and re hiring of sacked managers is a farce, managers go round clubs continually and its the only job were a manager can get sacked over and over again yet still get another job

its getting pathetic and sort of embarrassing to be honest, it seems stability is the last thing many of these clubs look for

The only problem is that stability didn't really get us anywhere.

I would've been delighted if moyes was sacked years ago.

Stability is good if you can see the manager at least trying to take the club forward. Hopefully Martinez is that man.

A few years of stability got us out of the relegation fights, yes he couldn't take us much further but our club does have its limits in terms of spending etc, at least we built a team year on year rather than the trend of 10 players in 10 out that a lot of teams adopt

Stability has got us nowhere? So stability was a bad thing? Of course it is, who wants to go from almost being relegated to consistently finishing in the top ten, hovering around the top teams in the top league. Who would want a solid team and solid set-up for a manager like Martinez to come in and take the steps forward. Without stability, you never know we might have won the league. Get real mate. I don't like Moyes' behaviour of recent times more than the next blue, but that stability he brought to the club was and is vital. It has allowed somebody like Martinez to come in and implement his plans.

My mistake.

David Moyes is great. Thank you Davie, please come back and give us another 11 years of 'stability'. Never mind that we were dull to watch and have won bugger all for donkeys years. He got us in the top 10, yippeee.

David Moyes you absolute legend.

Nobody else in the history of the game could have 'achieved' what the Moyesiah did at his time here.

Whether you are a Moyes lover or not the reality is that if he hadn't have walked out on us we would be accepting mediocrity still thinking that until we get a billionaire we won't win at old Trafford, win games 1-0 and spend the last 15 minutes of every home game having a coronary as the opposition batter our overworked defence.

Going from relegation fodder to stable top 8 was what we have to thank Moyes for. But that was achieved after 5 years of his tenure. Looking back I'm wondering if we ever would have improved from that as there was little sign in the following 6 years.

Now we have changed our outlook completely, thanks to an enforced change to our management and coaching staff. Only time will tell if Martinez can make league position improvements with a similar budget to his predecessors. In the meantime I think it's fair to say that we are all enjoying a much changed and exciting way of playing. More goals scored and yes maybe more conceded but not enough to lose matches.

We have an exciting end of season to look forward to - something Martinez is a master at. And if reports are true a bit of business to conduct in the summer

Bring it on!

COYB

Firstly, I enjoy the wholly sarcastic conversation and was tempted to reply sarcastically haha. however, I don't know how people can forget or undermine what Moyes has done. I am made up moyes is now go and he ws a total **** over the summer, I have lost fondness and respect for the man, however I still know that he built a very good team on little resources and had to deal woth losing his star man very often. And not not many could have done how he did over his reign, what he achieved was remarkable. That is why manchester united offered him the job, no other reason. i'm sure someone on here said it was because he was scottish, but I don't even have to say anythingto say on that worthless statement. most of our best players are moyes players, ones he brought in at exceptional prices, coleman one example. How many teams are trying and have tried to stabilise there clubs and failed or are failing? roberto is a breath of fresh air, he really is and wouldn't take moyes back if he paid me, but I am not deluded about the past.

The Real Mike #Legend

Legend? How? Blue tit that was well put,

The T*t using words like deluded again. Shouldn't use big words you don't understand, stick to the shorter less complicated ones. Then again you use words like 'past' too. And what past is that? The David Moyes negative, average, boring, scrape results past? Or the multiple Title and Cup winning past?

Thanks Honest Blue. Oil Jennings, no need for such hostility. Firstly, have you used the same word twice? Me and The real Mike were having debate, a back and forth yet you feel the need to aimlessly and pointlessly insult my intelligence despite having no evidence to justify such actions. You insulted me by using 'tit' also, rather than backing up your point with an intelligent, structured argument. Yet I am the one who needs to consider the language I use? You should not get so abusive when somebody apposes your argument or opinion. I would like you to look down to your left, and pick up your dummy. I suppose when our premier league years were seemingly drawing to an end (for at least a short period), we should have just played exciting attacking football. After all that is more important than securing a long and successful stay in the premier league, isn't it? You see Moyes did what he needed in those circumstances and it worked well, did it not? Now we have took the step forward with Roberto Martinez, one which is needed and welcomed by all blues. It's about progression, something which I think we have done well. I think your opinions are purely emotively motivated which subsequently prevents logic from seeping in.

The point I was trying to make about stability is it is ok as long as you see progression or results.

If in the next 5 years our finishes are say 6th, 7th, 8th, 7th, 6th and Martinez doesn't win a trophy.

Would you A) Give him a new contract. or B) sack him and get a new manager.

I would go for B. But I think most on here and even Kenwright himself would go for option A.

Oh and Oli is right. I am a Legend.

I get your point mate. Now that we are stable, progression is key, but before Moyes, we was not stable, and that is my point. Put it like this, Moyes' ways was a necessary evil, but as I have reiterated change was needed and it is welcomed in the form of RM and hopefully progression follows. I would only say B if there was a promising prospect who could realistically do better than RM in this hypothetical situation. It is a difficult one though.

Emotionally motivated? No. Motivated by logic. And I have a distaste for people using words like delusional to their fellow supporters. And it's not the first time someone hasn't agreed with you and you then respond with it. That is a non argument. It's what people resort to when they have nothing to actually go on.

You also need to look up the word abuse. If that's abuse then I don't know how you'd react to someone actually abusing you.