Everton Banter Archive January 24 2016

 

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24 Jan 2016 23:00:57
Eleven wins in 51 games said a blue tonight on BBC.
If that's true (verification please Cowpat? )
then the guys got to be sacked that's an appalling record.

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25 Jan 2016 00:12:42
It's true mushy. he needs to be sacked. personally I think he'll soon be gone!

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25 Jan 2016 01:15:06
Like to think he will be gone in the morning, but, the chairmans health seems to have created a seance of paralisis, not a fan of bill's, but would not wish anything other than a full recovery, but in the meantime, he must delegate someone to protect the interests of the club, the naysmith fee should be enough to pay off that fraud.

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24 Jan 2016 22:14:13
we have only won 6 league games this season both Newcasle and Sunderland have won 5.

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24 Jan 2016 21:01:19
Is it true that the sign above the exit from the players' tunnel onto the pitch that read "Welcome to Goodison" has been extended to add "and please take all lthe points when you leave"?

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24 Jan 2016 20:27:17
What a way to get the fans back on side and say the players are in fear of the crowd at goodison. After that I think it's the beginning of the end for roberto.

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24 Jan 2016 20:06:10
Would the same fans still say no to Benitez. Regardless if his past he is a successful coach and manager.

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24 Jan 2016 22:03:12
I would have him at the drop of a hat it's better than getting relegated.

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24 Jan 2016 22:06:13
Always no to him from me. Sorry bluegray87 just don't rate him.

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24 Jan 2016 22:14:35
No, but would take Jose. at least he wins things. I say let's get a takeover done. give Mourinhio the job and nice transfer kitty and up up and away we go. fat chance hey?

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24 Jan 2016 23:27:09
Jose at the drop of a hat but that will never happen Moyes is still jobless lol.

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24 Jan 2016 23:59:15
Move on, it's a non starter just like it has been every time you (I think it is you anyway) keep mentioning his name. Not even worth the time going through why, just NO.

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25 Jan 2016 08:32:56
What would you do to get us out of this rut then Spud?

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24 Jan 2016 20:18:37
Apparently, social, media is all of a whirl with a viral rumour that we're appointing renowned, but notoriously flamboyant, European coach Maria von Trapp who's quoted in the press saying:

"Dew-drops on noses and hands wrapped in mittens,
Playing through winter is common in Britain.
Brown paper packages stuffed full of bungs,
These are a few of my favourite things.

"Ten pints of Stella and molten hot curries,
Makes all the players explosive with worries.
Putting in crosses from both of the wings,
These are a few of my favourite things.

"Girls in blue dresses and starchy white aprons,
Giving out toffees to all of the patrons.
Playing at Goodison and not at the Kings,
These are a few of my favourite things.

When the Cruyff turns,
And the star jumps,
Cost us winning leads,
I simply remember my favourite things,
And then I don't feel so bad. "

I don't know about the rest of you fans, but to me he seems tailor-made for us.

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{Ed007's Note - (clap)

25 Jan 2016 01:55:20
Quality Sid!

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24 Jan 2016 20:16:03
Mark Hughes is the man I believe to change our season. A big name who is well respected and manages like how he played.

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24 Jan 2016 20:42:38
Until the takeover currently in "due diligence" is (or isn't! ) resolved, I doubt if the manager's position will be adressed.
If the current owners remain, then there's the situation with BK's health and whether or not a change of chairman is unfortunately necessitated.

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25 Jan 2016 00:00:12
No disrespect to our club but why would Sparky want to come as he's doing a fantastic job at Stoke?

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24 Jan 2016 20:03:04
Never usually post match day, usually take time to think rather than give a knee jerk reaction.
Home form however is abysmal and our league position is where we deserve to be. On paper we have squad that should comfortably see us top six. The reality is we are easy to outwit tactically and that inferior teams the likes of Leicester are simply set up, everyone knows their job and they are 100% committed. There is a good balance and they play as a team and for the manager.
I was very critical of Martinez last season. This season I naively thought that without Europe and with a better pre season and squad we would do well.
I deliberately switch off when Martinez speaks to the press, so I have been spared most of the excuses and delusion he comes out with. I do care deeply however about Everton and want success for the younger supporters who have never tasted it.
Change can be difficult but change is a necessity. Bill is a tolerant chairman and I admire him for that, but he must see that for all the youthful prospects we have nurtured and acquired that a change is required. Whatever happens on Wednesday and the only optimism I take into the second leg is that City are poor defensively too so we will get chances. But even a Wembley final can't replace your Premiership status, just ask Birmingham supporters.
I was on dry January until after the match, but a few beers and a bottle of red and still going thought I would post whilst I can still spell.

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24 Jan 2016 19:55:05
As you all know. I have been RM's biggest critic all the way through on here. but now is not the time to call for his sacking. We are in a cup semi and half way up/ down the league. Achange in direction can stabilise or de-stabilise a club. it is 50:50. It is up to us and the board to get behind the team. If we win our next 3 games which is a possibility. we will all be happy bunny's thinking about Wembly and forgetting all abou today and talking about Europe again. We need to support now! However difficult that seems.

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24 Jan 2016 20:41:17
How can a change from the current situation destabilise us. 3 seasons on from 'I will take you to the Champions League' and look at us now. There is nothing whatsoever in this blokes history or CV to indicate anything other than mediocrity. Whereas after last season and this season so far a change could not do anything else but be positive.

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24 Jan 2016 20:53:19
Degsypulford has your body been possessed by a Martinez lover and made a post in your name?

Couldn't believe it was you when I looked at the bottom of the comment!

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24 Jan 2016 23:37:09
Degsy think it's beyond that now lose the fans and then have the brass balls to say the players are frightened of losing at home because of the fans has done it for me! These are words from a manager out of depth and ideas and must be stopped. Get rid now also think the players are not playing for him, they look lost.

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25 Jan 2016 01:54:12
Unfortunately our season is based on cups not league, we bomb out Wednesday then meltdown beckons!

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24 Jan 2016 19:45:33
Swan the majority of us prob watched Moyes football more than you did, so why say Rlchris1982 that obviously didn't watch Moyes.

Alot of people said we were playing good stuff in his last year. Your just totally anti Moyes. I'm not saying I want him back. But we may be looking for him yet. At the moment we are going backwards.

Unless Martinez wins the League cup he'll more than likely go at the end of the season.

I know not many will agree with this but I'd consider Chris Hughton. Decent manager who never got a proper chance. Newcastle should have given him proper time.

Apart from them two, realistically I don't know. As Cowpat says Howe doesn't want to move up to this area.

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24 Jan 2016 20:44:06
Chris is another Martinez, plenty of waffle but no substance.

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24 Jan 2016 20:56:42
Our game stats from notes first six months of are last season are unreal, we actually had teams hemmed into there own box were now we have to open ourselves up to try and get 3 points back, pointless arguing with him he downright hates moyes and wouldn't accept a word for him.

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24 Jan 2016 21:28:05
Well it's simply not true, SAF summed us up perfectly after we beat Utd saying we simply hoofed it to Fellaini, we did that all season. Jags had the most misplaced long passes in the league I believe, that's how often we did it. It worked for most of the season but was dreadful to watch. I'm not anti Moyes, I'm just not someone who creams over him and ignores all his negatives (lots of them to ignore) and call anyone else who disagrees a hater or now "anti-Moyes". Why would we need him still? To "steady the ship"? Get us top 8 again but like before, never go any further? Sorry I'd like to think I have a bit more ambition for my club then another 10 years of being "2nd best of the rest" and "knife to a gun fight".

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24 Jan 2016 22:37:09
mikedeblue, hello mate x.

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25 Jan 2016 00:06:09
But we had the best left side under him Swan we were deadly down the left and could defend. Also we did play lovely football in our last two seasons under him.

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25 Jan 2016 00:07:14
Never forget that moyes got us to a cup final in which we scored in 25 seconds then had us defending for the rest of the match. I would not want to see this again. Way too negative. Can't coach strikers as much as Martinez can't coach defenders.

Both are not good enough.

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24 Jan 2016 19:46:01
Have been going to goodison since 1963, seen good times and bad, but I have never been as angry or depressed as I am right now, this arrogant fraud is destroying our club, and knowone on the board is lifting a finger to stop him, if he does take us down, the only consolation will be that they will lose their ill gotten gain when the takeover falls though, knowone is going to give you 200m+ for a championship club, deep in debt with a ground 70 years out of date.

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24 Jan 2016 19:54:17
Ed025 tell JCW1000 about the dream. I think he needs jeering up.

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{Ed025's Note - its turning into a nightmare mate.. :(

24 Jan 2016 19:33:11
Duncansmum you mentioned below no press give out about Martinez.

Well they did today BEFORE the game. Emanuel Petit and Peter Schimeichel before todays discussed how Everton should be higher up the table. Especially with the squad we have. The two of them were saying that before the game.

I bet there will be plenty more saying now after the game.

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24 Jan 2016 20:48:25
emanuel petite! really! Once guys like Carragher, Lineker etc start then I will take more notice.

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24 Jan 2016 19:21:00
. even Tim Cahill is heavily critising the clueless 1 now on his Twitter feed reminding him how he and his team used to be 100% committed to the cause and defending for their lives when ahead in a game!

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24 Jan 2016 19:32:26
Just imagine Tim in the dressing room (or Reidy for that matter) and the Fraud standing in front of them. This yes man's latest master piece is 'Everton are fearful of Goodison', he may not realise it but this fraud from abroad has just condemned himself and his methods. I am of an age and sufficient manners not to put in type the exact words but this man needs advice, the crux of which eludes to sex and travel.

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24 Jan 2016 19:17:55
What's everyone's view in Eddie Howe all the eds please give your verdict.

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{Ed023's Note - I've just asked an opinion on it earlier haha}

24 Jan 2016 19:16:49
I cannot get a ticket for man city on Wednesday and I can't bear to watch or listen to it so I will watch corrie emeraldale and mid summer murders before I put ssn on at 10pm and pray we get wembley and win a cup for all are younger fans but I fear the worst I hope i'm wrong but today gave us a measure of are team stones for me has been dreadful since October and mori is a better defender so let's rest stones on Wednesday if we r going to defend r slender lead but knowing the mindset of martinez he will do a kiev and all will end in heartache yet again.

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24 Jan 2016 19:16:42
Ranieri anybody?

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24 Jan 2016 19:25:34
No thanks.

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24 Jan 2016 19:27:54
A Zackiii, do you seriously think he'd leave Leicester?

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24 Jan 2016 19:53:31
Heard a few names knocking about today most of them PL managers higher than us, why on earth would they come.

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24 Jan 2016 19:13:47
I welcomed RM's appointment as our manager - and was enthused even more so by his first season - but (unlike many fans who warned the rest of us) I clearly didn't appreciate that his record at Wigan was likely to be repeated (albeit with better players) at Everton. He clearly won't accept that the current squad isn't able to play the fantasy football he wants and worse he is too stubborn to adapt his tactics to suit the current squad. It'll be no good developing young talent that forms our dream team in few years if those players leave because we are in mid-table (or lower) mediocrity, have no European football, and haven't won any domestic cup competitions.
Oh well - maybe the takeover (or investment) will happen, as will a new stadium, and we'll go on an unbeaten run, and keep, our best players. Yeah - right - look out for the flying pigs :- (

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24 Jan 2016 19:12:43
I have been supporting Everton since 1967 and in that time I have never seen such consistently amaturish and inept defending as this set of 'Chuckle Brothers' produce week in, week out.
What will it take for somebody in our club to act and rid us of this, 'Relegated on my CV' baboon?

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24 Jan 2016 18:59:11
. I just had a dream - the takeover happened by this Jordanian billionaire and Mourinhio became boss and won the league title in his first full season with us!

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{Ed023's Note - Waking up with your head in a bowl of cork flakes comes to mind}

24 Jan 2016 18:49:02
Rubbish and time for a change.

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24 Jan 2016 18:48:07
What's people's thoughts on Niger Pearson? He did a great job at Leicester? Martinez has got to go before he does anymore damage.

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24 Jan 2016 18:57:38
I wouldn't want us to go anywhere near him.

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{Ed023's Note - Thoughts on Eddie Howe?}

24 Jan 2016 19:05:08
Think he gets homesick.
Stubbs? Dunc? Karanka? Clements?
Not sure if they got jobs but zola, Di matter, Laudrup, de boer? Think we take anyway over martinez as long as they can organise our defence.

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24 Jan 2016 19:16:12
Yes Eddie Howe all day long for me Everton fan young manager and most of all doing a decent job at Bournemouth.

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{Ed023's Note - and ye share names.. win win!!}

24 Jan 2016 19:46:28
Perfect haha would he even consider Everton though.

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24 Jan 2016 18:47:56
If RM leaves (more like when he leaves! ) , I'd imagine that we'd have to choose from four basic types of manager;
(1) a foreign coach - someone with a good reputation and track record abroad, but who doesn't necessarily know the Premier League.
(2) a promising manager already working in British football, but maybe in the lower tiers or with limited experience of managing in the Premier League.
(3) an experienced Premier League manager who's done well (whatever that might mean) at other clubs.
(4) a coach promoted from within the current staff.

Add in some other conditions: appoint someone that we wouldn't have to pay much (if any) compensation for AND who could get the defence/ offence balance right AND who wouldn't demand massive transfer funds, but who would relish having the television money (and the fees for our outgoing players) to invest AND who could actually deliver the success that RM promised, but has failed to deliver.

Hmmm - it's beginning to sound a lot like the return of the ginger one!

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24 Jan 2016 19:07:00
Cowpat, yep and he would relish it. As someone else said, with this Squad he would do well. I believe he would actually rectify his only weakness and that is beat the so-called top 4 and with the funds (TV money/ investment (ha ha) ) actually have the where/ withall to enhance his coaching skills.

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24 Jan 2016 19:21:34
Duncansmum and Degsypulford along with myself are big fans of that man. The reason I don't discuss him much anymore is because too many dislike him and are very quick to point out his faults.

I'd say pretty much all of them people want Martinez gone too. So they are used to pointing at the problems and let's face it prob wouldn't be happy with any manager we have.

Nearly certain it was me who said he would do well with this squad duncansmum. Said that months ago. My worst fear has been realised with Martinez.

He'll get it hard to get a good run going now.

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24 Jan 2016 19:24:16
Any body else heard this pregnant gold fish (yes I know it is a myth) comments, particularly today. Bloomin amazing how nothing is ever his responsibility or fault. More appalling is our boards lack of communication. Everton are Everton and one of the founding members of the League and a proud Club to support. I have to say though that with the present Board/ CEO and eye off the ball PR attitude (lack off) and given I have consumed a couple or more of the alcohol beverage we are not far off the Johnson era! Never has it been so apparent that a Chairmen's illness has had such dire consequences.

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24 Jan 2016 18:20:41
Can anyone explain why Mr Martinez does not get any criticism in the press or from commentators and pundits. I have been consistent in saying this was/ is not the man for us from the very beginning, there was/ is nothing in his CV to justify his employment, indeed the opposite is there for all to see. Last season he blamed on EUFA, this season he kept quiet and then started blaming the referees, supporters and even our own players, anyone except himself. Could we really be worse off without this man.

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{Ed023's Note - We had the exact same situation with Rodgers - they are men who are just very friendly with the media so the abuse won't be as much, lots of editors including me never saw the big deal regarding Martinez. Overrated as hell!}

24 Jan 2016 18:43:33
I have to say I supported Moyes through his reign and was anti Martinez. However, after his first season and particcularly his signing of Lukaku. my head turned. Only thing is, it's gone allthe way round like in the exorcist now! The man is obsessed with certain players and is ruining our club. Naismith was a class player. So is Mirallas. Neither have had much of a look in. Barkley has been so inconsistent yet gets picked all the time. As does Howard. I am actually lost for words.

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24 Jan 2016 18:55:14
Why are our Board so indolent and lacking so much in PR. Why can they not see that the faults in Roberto far outweigh his positives (beat us 3-0 on the way and won the FA Cup, ermm that's it) . Just come out and say something .

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24 Jan 2016 17:41:26
I thinking could it get any worse, then there it was lukaku to get injured and we got kone up front. to close to relegation if this was to happen.

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24 Jan 2016 18:26:16
Tell Swan and co what I have been saying mate. Its doing my head in!

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24 Jan 2016 18:40:22
Oh please degsy get over yourself.


Dazza, spot on, losing Rom in any way would be a blow as Kone can't play the lone striker role, Naismith could with Kev around him but uh yeah, we don't have him anymore.

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24 Jan 2016 19:25:36
Exactly Swan so if Lukaku is injured or gone for whatever reason for the rest of the season. Who would you like to see being the manager then?

Can't imagine its Martinez.

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24 Jan 2016 17:32:26
With the squad we got I don't see many better in the premier league, its down to management, we need a hungry manager with experience that don't take no mess. moyes was good and don't deserve the abuse he gets on here, he gave us a good strong respectable side but we should not go back. who I don't know .

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24 Jan 2016 17:43:18
Dont forget mate, Moyes left us and said we where holding good players back, no way I want him back?

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24 Jan 2016 17:47:35
It doesn't stop at the manager, once he's gone this useless chairman and board will just hire another yes man.

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24 Jan 2016 18:40:10
Nice yes man to stroke bill's ego, and yes I do no he's unwell, but if he is unable to run his club, he should appoint someone to do so, and their first act should be to give martinez his p45, that truely must be the final strew.

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24 Jan 2016 17:31:32
I have to say I have been watching the Blues since the sixties and that was one of the worst games I have seen, what Geri must be thinking with all those lovely passes going to waste Rom was nowhere to be seen and as for Stones I would take the £50mill now he was dredful, before we get any takeover or investment we need a new manager, Disgusted GuernseyBlue.

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24 Jan 2016 19:01:29
50's for me buddy.

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24 Jan 2016 17:20:09
To paraphrase Michael Caine's character, Harry Palmer, in "The Ipcress File" and the reply to him:
'You know - if Lukaku and Coleman and the others had converted all of those crosses from Deulofeu, we'd have won by a landslide and Martinez would be hailed as the master of attacking football and the fans would be deliriously happy. "
"They didn't. He isn't. And we're not. ".

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24 Jan 2016 17:34:39
Your post made me laugh thanks Cowpat. The problem is Cowpat, that by the time Deulofeu crosses, there are about 7 defeenders in the box. because we have passed it in and out of own defence 3 times and up and down both wings. If we played like we did against Man City and broke from defence quickly and got an early cross in, maybe Lukaku could be on the end. Not much chance of anyone else getting there though. read my other post.

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24 Jan 2016 17:14:24
Is Jose mourinho lined up for anyone? Because maybe just maybe if we could get him it may just give us the opportunity to keep hold of our young stars for another season. He's one of those managers that have the pulling power and persuade stones and Rom to stay. The only other option for me is Moyes but not sure if he could keep them at the club and would probably need to build and reinvest in new players. Either way this is what's needed. I never like a knee jerk reaction after a game but once I have made my decision it's usually the correct one. Let's see if Bill thinks the same.

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24 Jan 2016 17:33:41
Wasn't it Mourinho who got rid of Rom in the first place. Do agree though it would be fascinating to see what would happen. As for Moyes, no thanks.

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24 Jan 2016 17:54:09
This is not a knee jerk reaction after an appalling performance but I'd willing take £40m+ each for both Lukaka and Stones for the following reasons:
Lukaka has no first touch, demands the ball when he is tightly marked, has little or no movement and can't head a ball oh, and believes he is better than he really is. He may have scored 15 or so goals but he misses far too many sitters from 2 or 3 yards out like today. A more mobile striker would by now have the nous to anticipate Deboy's deliveries. I appreciate the same could be said of Coleman today though in terms of missing chances from close range.
Stones believes all the media hype and now believes he can play top class football at walking pace, all too often being caught out or playing team mates into trouble. At this stage of his career he should know when to put his foot through the ball. His mistakes resulted in both goals today, although Howard's reacted very slowly for the first.
Both need a reality check!

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24 Jan 2016 18:15:16
Sorry mate you are talking rubbish. Lukaku had a bad game. Doesn't take away the fact that his all round game has been far better this year and he has scored 19 goals this season. Can't slate a player for one bad game. Best forward we've had in years.

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24 Jan 2016 18:58:46
Normally in any situation life/ football/ other Business no news is good news but with this board no news replaces any news.

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24 Jan 2016 17:30:07
Ed 25 what ya thoughts? I would give Moyes a contract til end of season then see how he is on his return.

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{Ed025's Note - frying pans and fires there robbie, get rid of bobby yes, but dont replace him with another charletan..

24 Jan 2016 17:12:01
I get some stick on here for stating things as I see them. and even get accused of saying things and pretending that I had said them in the past. I stand by what I have been saying. 60% possession in 90 minutes and 2 tame shots on target. Team today consisted of our defence. Then for midfielders and forwards: Cleverly.1 goal. Barry.2 goals. Besic. no goals. Replaced by Cleverly.1 goal. Deulofeu.2 goals. Lukaaku 15.goals. So besides Lukaku.6 goals from RM signings. That is far too much reliance on 1 player. In effect. stop Lukaku. stop EVERTON. Add to that a keeper that is as dodgy as a football agent and a system of playing that ensures the opposition has time to organise themselve and it is a recipe for relegation. I said it about 8 weeks ago and am still saying it. I am as Blue ass aanyone before you have a go Swan and co. but this is killing me!

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24 Jan 2016 18:29:33
How can people disagree with facts? except the relegation bit. but I hope the manager is not as complacent on this.

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24 Jan 2016 17:11:45
I say bring Archie Knox back and get him to get his bat out! Stones needs to be subbed for a few games to let some air out of his head. Desperatley miss McCarthy and jags. Never looked more like wigerton athletic fc.

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24 Jan 2016 18:01:49
Wigerton very good Big busta. Agree Stones needs to wake up and realise he has still a lot of football to play and play well.

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24 Jan 2016 16:48:19
Just watched RM interview in which flatly refused to blame Stones for the first goal, and then mumbled something about how unlucky we were not to win?

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24 Jan 2016 16:46:19
I love the attractive football we have been playing and goals we been scoring and I was prepared to give martinez time to develop and organise the team to defend better. But now after today's performance I have to agree with the majority and want him out. I'd even take the fat Spanish waiter or why not Alan stubbs, he's doing a decent job in Scotland.

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24 Jan 2016 17:26:22
Why not bring in Stubbs and Big Dunc as a Team for the rest of the Season. Priority now is to somehow get to 40 points, anyone else see that as a challenge because I do.

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24 Jan 2016 17:43:53
Not a bad idea. Stubbs sort defending. This league season is now a write off. Let's to get survival and pray to do well in cups. We do need a change tho.

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24 Jan 2016 16:35:47
I'm not going to shout for Martinez head as I don't think it will make much difference. In the summer however I would look elsewhere. Getting thoroughly fed up this season, 40 goals scored warrants a better return than 6 league wins. We can defend when we need to, I. e against City. The insistence we playing the ball out every time is wearing a bit thin, it was our downfall last season and is ruining our season again. Barkley today was absolutely awful, why a player of that ability shoots so little is beyond me. We have a midfield that refuse to shoot outside the box. Just relying on Deulofeu to Lukaku combination. Gutted that Besic and Mirallas went off injured as they might have made the difference. What had the potential to be a good season is turning into a nightmare. Let's have a couple of cup matches and hopefully come better against Newcastle.

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24 Jan 2016 16:48:42
i am get rid asap.

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24 Jan 2016 16:55:30
Our realistic target now just has to be getting to 40 points and staying up. Talk of finishing in the Europen places or winning a cup competition was clearly pie in the sky. In the summer, the board can bring in a new manager who'll make better use of the club's resources - not only the huge television money, but also the massive transfer fees we"ll get when Stones, Lukaku, etc., inevitably move on.

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24 Jan 2016 17:20:37
I am saying nothing.

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24 Jan 2016 16:32:56
The thing that really gets me is that RM comes out with the ususl rubbish but seems to think that everything is really OK and supporters don't we understand that EFC are punching over their weight and should be happy as a mid table team. Although with this twerp in charge I think I may be happy with mid table, if we loose Lukaku, Stones etc in the summer god help us next year.

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24 Jan 2016 16:28:55
I have always stated that this man will, if given enough time, take us down!
2 hamstring injuries and a ridiculous penalty in the first 20 mins is appalling!
His back room staff need scrutinising and he himself needs to face facts
The team get to the halfway line and then stop as the only movement ahead of them has already been and gone
We have one outlet and that is to put the ball in front of lukaku but the slow paced build up leaves lukaku out cold and so he has to play hold up all game
It will never be his strong point! He needs am early ball through and he's dangerous
Why does this man allow our midfield to be so predictable? If he can't the best out of the talent we have then he has to go before they do.
I'm sorry but even a cup win will not paper over the cracks for me
Swansea have never won a league game against us till today
They were far batter than us
1 win in 10 and this was supposed to be the run of games that we expected to pick up some serious points
I don't doubt that we create chances but I doubt the confidence the players have in the tactics
We are in trouble with this man
No way should he have played Oviedo instead of Coleman and it back fired
I've had enough of watching that boring sideways build up so much that I was begging to see long balls into the box!

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24 Jan 2016 16:27:57
It's time for roberto to go. We do not learn from r errors we just keep making them. I am getting sick of his excuses and most of all his tactical naivety.

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24 Jan 2016 16:25:57
Martinez out Moyes in.

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24 Jan 2016 16:19:57
I called it this morning RM, you have failed and the hatchets are out!
However I do question whether to many players had the semi final in mind and not the game today?

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24 Jan 2016 16:37:15
The OP's point about players' minds being on the semi-final occurred to me, but I discounted it. Our players are far too professional and honest for that aren't they - surely - don't you think - perhaps - maybe?

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24 Jan 2016 16:15:05
I guess Rm and the team decided that playing well and drawing was getting boring so the went with playing s##t and losing just for a change.

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24 Jan 2016 16:40:01
A change is as good as a rest. Our club could do with a change - and give our manager a rest from his duties - permanently.

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24 Jan 2016 16:14:44
Howard-1-Never despised an Everton player so much in my life.

Oviedo-4.5-No protection from Deulofeu but sloppy as hell.

Stones-2-Please god, I love this fella but 50m is way too much for him, take it and get a DEFENDER in to DEFEND.

Funes Mori-4-Passing made Sakho look like Maldini.

Baines-3-Poor deliveries all game and caught out so often, bring back Galloway. He is finished.

Barry-7-Feel sorry he has to play in this teams.

Besic-6-Unlucky again.

Barkley-3-So many simple passes he couldn't see, got bullied all game by LEON BRITTON.

Deulofeu-5-He put 4 tap ins across the box and NO ONE THERE.

Mirallas-6-Unlucky.

Lukaku-5-Oh god.

Pienaar-7-Actually looked like creating something.

Cleverley-6-Worked hard.

Worst performance I've ever seen from an Everton side.

Swansea were terrible, worse than Villa and Sunderland at Goodison, that's how bad WE were to lose.

Get rid of Martinez now, please.

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24 Jan 2016 16:45:05
Swan: it was a very bad performance, but if that's the worst you've seen, then you can't have been watching Everton for as many years as me and plenty other old codgers ;-)

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24 Jan 2016 16:10:08
I think rm time is up. but he won't be sacked.
We were sooooo bad its unbelievable.

I hate watching them play.

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24 Jan 2016 16:10:03
not botherd wot anyone says and I mean ANYONE but stones never got his chelsea move and I think he is definitely deffo definitely did u get that definitely playing his way out of everton because he does not want to be there. slate me if you want because I cudint give a crap its my opinion.GET RID NOW 50MILL FOR A SHOW PONY AV IIIIITT.

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24 Jan 2016 16:20:17
I'd happily take £40m.

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24 Jan 2016 16:06:30
. that was bloody awful. the players don't seem to be up for it anymore either, terrible defending again, atmosphere at Goodison toxic, surely the board must now act and sack this clueless clown who is supposed to be a football manager! We have become an embarrassment to all and i'm really hoping Man City do us a favor and dump us out of the Mickey Mouse cup on Wednesday so that the decision can be made quickly and easily! We are a million miles away from where we were when Moyes left. I'm not saying he should be the next man in charge. I think at this stage of the season just get someone in to get us through to the end of the season safely someone like Peter Reid, Fergy, Donal duck anyone really. then go for someone radical in the summer like Frank De Boer, Klinsmann or even Mark Hughes could be worth a go!

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24 Jan 2016 16:04:47
That is the worst I have seen us all season, I think all our games have been good to watch so far good going forward but defensively weak. That today was lacklustre and not acceptable. I said a couple of weeks ago my head was saying we need a change as we need to be more solid and can't play that way with success, my heart was saying it's an exciting young team that are learning and will come good.
I'm sorry but both my head and heart are telling me the same. Even if we get through on Wednesday and win a trophy it's not good enough. We need to be consistent in the league, Roberto will probably come out and say Mirrallas and Besic going off stopped any momentum and affected our first half. It was not acceptable and I say bring back Moyes. Is mourinho going anywhere?

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24 Jan 2016 16:30:30
RM will no doubt blame diabolical decisions by the officials. How dare the referee award two goals to Swansea for them putting the ball into our net in complete accordance with the laws of the game! Surely everyone knows that goals only count if they're from open play following ponderous, indirect, backwards, sideways, slow, possession in your own half (in particular between the keeper and the centre-backs) . Heaven forbid that a team dares to play with intensity, drive, purpose and aggression.

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24 Jan 2016 15:59:43
6 wins from 22 prem games 3 since September. Please tell me how he still has job. I said earlier give Peter Reid the job till end of season. He used Europe last year, where even worse this year. Forget Wednesday just sort league out. Team we have and look what we just showed on tv. Embarrassing ain't the word. John stones needs a month on the bench, believes his own hype.

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24 Jan 2016 15:58:17
2014/ 2015 season. Played 23 games Won 6 Drawn 8 Loss 9. Points 26 12th on the table.
2015/ 2016 season After 23 games Won
Drawn 11 Loss 7 29 points 12th on the table.

So all it tells me is that we are having another miserable season. Martinez needs to go. . Stones needs to go. Has cost us countless times. Today again. Passing Awful. Howard not at fault for both goals today but he still needs to go.

Everton you are like my wife. You don't know what you are going to get when she gets out of bed in the morning.

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24 Jan 2016 15:57:58
I am not a Everton supporter but I think if you had a top manager like mouriniho you would definitely be top 4 possibly challenging for the title. The squad you have is unbelievable and Martinez is under achieving big time with your club. Are you evertonians happy with your manager.

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24 Jan 2016 16:10:30
No mate, but Ken&co will never sack him, he is a yes man, that's why he got the job.

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24 Jan 2016 15:51:36
I said it a few weeks back and will say it again Mourinho got the sack because he lost the trust of his players and I feel Bobbie has too.

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24 Jan 2016 15:49:56
If there is a long que to pay 50m for stones, first to have the ink dry on the deal gets him, the use the cash to pay off that usless spanish donkey.

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24 Jan 2016 15:47:16
We need to cash in on Stones and Om and give the funds to a new manager to re build--what a shambolic performance.

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24 Jan 2016 15:44:04
Quite clearly we are in a relegation fight--Martinez has to go. Cup win and Relegation in same season-sounds familiar.

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24 Jan 2016 15:43:12
Use the Naismith money on Martinez' severance package.

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24 Jan 2016 15:41:33
That clown Martinez has to go. It's embarrassing getting beat by Swansea that are awful. Add to that how we have kept only one clean sheet at home all season and everything points to a relegation battle the way we are going.
The only plus is you can get free money from the bookies every week on Everton not to keep a clean sheet!

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24 Jan 2016 15:40:20
To all those who said RM I turning us into Wigan I owe an apology, because after today's performance I no longer have a counter argument.
That today was if anything a typical performance of a team going nowhere. Defending abysmal, midfield to slow, and playing only one striker at home.
We are not Barcelona, we are Everton. We do not have the luxury of the Messi's and Naymars of this world. We have to work for our wins, and that just isn't happening.
50m for Stones, take it. 50m for Barkley, take it. Airline ticket for Howard I will buy it.
Stones could have learnt a lot from Ashley Williams today. If in doubt belt it out, simple really.

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24 Jan 2016 15:37:54
I think we can now safely forget about finishing in the Europen places in the Premier League.
Without Champions League football, I think we can also safely forget about keeping hold of Stones and Lukaku. I just hope that we can get the sort of transfer fees being bandied about for them. I'm not sure whether I'd want RM to be spending that money - maybe a new manager should have that money to spend. Who could we REALISTICALLY get as a new manger that is of the right quality?

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24 Jan 2016 15:51:03
I am beyond caring now as long as that clown RM goes, before its to late.

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24 Jan 2016 15:58:19
Frank De Boer. I wanted Bilic last time but the opportunity has gone.

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24 Jan 2016 15:34:43
Champions league don't make me laugh championship more like. Managers have been sacked for less than what martinez has done going to regret selling naismith but not to worry we will sign someone and loan them back. Take note roberto that's how u win a game get in front and protect your lead and as for coleman he needs to give his weeks wages to charity for that misssssss FED UUPPPPPPP city going to have a field day against that defence dynamo kiev 5-2 all over again ahhhhhhhhhh.

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24 Jan 2016 15:33:36
Lots of banter and angry supporters on here. At least that's what I am expecting. I upset my usual people over the last few days with some comments about lack of goals by players that RM signs. Well it also goes down to goals conceding. If you continually concede 2 or 3 goals, you will not win many games. Swansea had never beaten us until RM took over. Now they have beaten us in both cup and league games. We looked like we could play for 90 weeks never mind 90 minutes without scoring. I will point out yet again our lack of goalscoring players with 2 statistics.60% possession.2 shots on target. Both tame efforts if I remember correctly. Add that to the goals we concede and we are or will soon be in a relegation fight. I saidd it about 8 weeks ago and was ridiculed. Call me smug. but I don't like to be right on this. I hate watching us at the moment. I cannot see where goals will come from (Lukaku excepted) and even Coleman is now missing sitters. That is now nerves and confidence. When a team starts to free fall at this time of the season it can be a disaster. We did it last season and except for a few gritty wins near the end, it could have turned out quite different. I think now is the wrong time to sack the manager, but at the end of the season he surely has to go?

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24 Jan 2016 16:02:11
That makes no sense. You're saying we will be in a relegation battle soon but you don't think its the right time to sack the manager? When is the right time then? Once we've gone down?

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24 Jan 2016 16:59:55
Pod, mid season is never a good time to sack a manager. unless he has lost support from the players. It often leads to relegation. You have togive him time to turn it round otherwise you have a new manager every time a team loses form. It could be he turns it round this season just like last. With 6 or 7 games to go. and we are in the mire. then sack him.

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24 Jan 2016 15:33:21
Stones! We should take the money and run.

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24 Jan 2016 15:32:16
Is there anyone with the ball to tell Matinez that his time is up, or do we have to wait to hear those famous words, to good to go down?

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24 Jan 2016 16:04:00
The Facebook comments are pretty much united; time for him to go. The results speak for themselves.

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24 Jan 2016 15:27:52
I'm on a diet for my health, but those Xmas chocolates are going to get totally battered. SHOCKING.

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24 Jan 2016 15:26:44
That's it for me. Enough. I am now on the side of requiring RM to walk or be pushed. The league position does not lie. We deserve to be where we are. For those not in the know, EFC are entering a relegation fight. God help us, from the promise of CL football to this dire mess.

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24 Jan 2016 15:25:54
Aitor Karanka anyone?

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24 Jan 2016 15:24:23
21st Nov15 last time we won a league game at home, beaten today at home by relegation cannon foder, the board surely have to take responsibility othrewise we are going to become relegation material, fans, pundits, press, social media alike are all saying the same thing about how we play and our shambolic defending, martinez has got to go its as simple as that!
Who could come in? Peter Reid as an interim most certainly, Frank De Boer worth a shout in the summer.
BK and the Board Act Now!

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24 Jan 2016 16:06:01
I agree 100% with everything you've written. FDB is my choice too.

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24 Jan 2016 15:24:13
Well panic station has truly set in now. We are slipping closer to the bottom.
2-1 down and brings on a rb.
Martinez is a awful manager.
Stones was terrible.
Lukaku goals dried up.

We are knackered but we need to seriously atart.

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24 Jan 2016 15:16:44
18 attempts 2 on target just not good enough today up front.

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24 Jan 2016 16:04:26
Lukaku was poor today.
Stones was caught out.
Howard did a couple of good things, but must be replaced as first choice keeper sooner rather than later.
Deulofeu put in some great crosses.
Besic unlucky with the injury.
Too many of our players were just not on their game today. A team can accommodate 1 (maybe 2) players having an off-day, but it's impossible if most of the team is clearly performing under par.
We showed some spirit and intent in the second half, but that shouldn't deflect from our overall clear lack of cohesion, organisation, belief, and nous.
I fear for us at ManCity. We could ship a hatful if we don't improve significantly.
After that, we'd also be ripe for being turned over by Carlisle United.
If that happens, it'll be "season over" by the end of January.
Depressed? What - me? As many other posters have written, "this is Everton - this is what we do! "
RM has been losing the crowd more and more.
Next will come stories about serious discontent amongst the players.
Then the final step: the board will have had enough and will call an end to the failed Martinez experiment.
Oh dear, how sad, never mind - only trouble is that the fans do mind :- (

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24 Jan 2016 15:14:15
Today was a must win with excuses game and upto now looks like someone needs to have some good excuses because I can't think of any think it's time for him to go.

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24 Jan 2016 15:11:53
I think we are going to find are selves in a religation battle. that was terrible.

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24 Jan 2016 15:11:38
Bang goes top 7,bobby out, stones out (as I also said) , new manager and £50 million to spend, might get 8th. good premier league spot any day over mickey mouse 🐭 cup.

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24 Jan 2016 14:57:56
Ed my point yesterday when we're wining bring on a midfielder or defender to close game out.

We're now losing and he brings on a right back.

Roberto seriously hasn't got a clue.

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{Ed025's Note - oh for a naisy to come on mate..

24 Jan 2016 15:44:12
Would have been nice Ed said several weeks ago couldn't see us winning any of are next 5 games and we have only Won one from are last 6 so I wasn't that far off but got slated for saying it sometimes the truth hurts.

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{Ed025's Note - it does skylark, that was horrible to watch today mate, and not acceptable for most of us mate..

24 Jan 2016 14:53:14
What is happening to our team I was a Bobby fan but this has got to change Geri must be pulling his hair our all those lovely crosses going to waste GuernseyBlue.

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24 Jan 2016 15:43:31
That's what happens when you play with one striker. Far to many players ball watching today, absolutely clueless.

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24 Jan 2016 15:44:18
What a difference a week makes mate :) If the club is being mismanaged we loose the talent. We have lived through awful Everton players. We cannot except this. Our well earned squad needs a complete manager. With a proven track record or we sacrifice the key players. The lack of Confidence was evident today. I think the players have already lost faith. Sadly if we don`t make the decision we are BOLTON.

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24 Jan 2016 14:52:50
Going to be slated for this but stones believes his own hype. Lots of our defending problems start with him not clearing his lines. Someone just said to me that's how rm wants him to play, ye that's right at the right time otherwise just clear the ball. The first goal was his fault not Howard's.

Rm has to go. I for one would be happy with moyes right now at least you knew we would win 95% of our home games and finish in top 6.

Rm thinks he is still at Wigan, it's time to go.

Put stones on the bench when jags is fit and leave him there till he realises.

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24 Jan 2016 15:27:36
Mate I agree he is a great talent but far too cocky, if anyone was stupid enough to offer £50mil I'd bite they're hand off.

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24 Jan 2016 15:29:24
Get £50m more like.

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24 Jan 2016 15:48:14
have to agree i'd have moyes back in the mornin I think he'd do a great job wid this team its got a lot better players there than moyes had at his disposal plus hopefully he would have money to spend unlike before we would be winning at home all day long.

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24 Jan 2016 15:55:40
Totally agree I think he believes a lot of the publicity he's been getting, to me he slows the game down to a dawdle, is not particularly good in the air and constantly puts other players under pressure with trying to be too clever.
I would also throw Barkley into the mix and take the money and run, when you see the effort and commitment of Gareth Barry at his age and compare it to lack of it from Barkley it's embarrassing.

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24 Jan 2016 14:49:42
Are we playing with 10, is lukaku even in merseyside today or do we need to check Williams back pocket?!?

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24 Jan 2016 15:01:24
One shot on target at home upto now is not Good enough.

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24 Jan 2016 14:47:56
Peter Reid as interim till end of season!

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24 Jan 2016 15:52:04
peter REID WOULD TAKE US DOWN.

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24 Jan 2016 14:33:57
Goodness me Ed who says we have a good selection, today we are awful I think if we are offered £50 mill for Stones we should take it while we can he is far too cocky and should defend far better c'mon you Blues second half GuernseyBlue.

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{Ed025's Note - thats as bad as i have seen us GB, the bobby out brigade will be lapping it up im sure..and who,s to say they are wrong?..

24 Jan 2016 14:51:34
I said we had a good selection before the game. One of Martinez best picked teams of the year. Unfortunately Besic and Mirallas had to go off early.

It is dreadful, Stones having a nightmare. Not good prep for Wednesday.

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24 Jan 2016 14:28:42
I have been a big supporter of Bobby but today's performance is awful. Stones looks like his mind is elsewhere today. And yes it's great to have a young team, but our best player is our oldest (and I don't mean Howard) . Need another striker in the box to support Rom. Far to easy for Swansea this. Second half has to be better, doesn't it?

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24 Jan 2016 14:18:30
Shocking defending. stones not looking comfortable, lukaku is coming looking for the ball (like benteke) and the supporters isn't helping. better 2nd half I hope.

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24 Jan 2016 13:29:14
Lovely, Del boy, Barkley and Mirallas. Lovely stuff. Bobby definitely made good selection today.

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24 Jan 2016 14:19:03
And it's not made one bit of a difference we are awful

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24 Jan 2016 14:27:12
We look like a Sunday league team.

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24 Jan 2016 14:30:11
SB that's insulting to a Sunday league team mate. At least they know how to clear the bloody ball.

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24 Jan 2016 13:05:36
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24 Jan 2016 12:15:14
Howard not playing today.

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24 Jan 2016 12:45:27
Pretty sure he is

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24 Jan 2016 12:47:31
You bet he is.

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24 Jan 2016 12:48:44
Woops.

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24 Jan 2016
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24 Jan 2016 11:37:38
Massive must win game today, so Bobby no more pre match interviews bigging Swansea up, let's talk Everton and have a good win couple from Rom and importantly a shut out, failure and expect the head hunters to be after you! No excuses!

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24 Jan 2016 14:24:59
We are awful dare I say it? John Stone's is a massive liability . He certainly is not worth 50 m to us. That cash would get us a reliable defence and Reberto's Severance pay.

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24 Jan 2016 07:59:06
Right I'm going to say it's the start of our season today. Win and change when needed. 4-0 win and let's see some tactical changes to shut the game out.

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24 Jan 2016 12:04:37
What was there to disagree with the score.

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24 Jan 2016 12:46:45
Agree pb. 4-0 hopefully

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24 Jan 2016 12:52:40
Maybe they think it will be a different score? .

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24 Jan 2016 13:23:22
It wasn't me that diagreed Pb78 but I'm going for 3 - 0. I'm hoping anyway.

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24 Jan 2016 00:50:39
I'm not the first to say this (is mean about most of the post) obviously the recent results have frustrated me. I, maybe stupidly, think think that bobbie is close to something good. Last few games I think team selection and subs have been much better. Bobbie obviously isn't have a huge amount of experience but, at times (and a good few of them) we have played amazing technical football. I probably am alone in thinking that bobbie is close to having us getting top results. We are Evertonians, from a young age it's going to be tough but we will keep going.

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24 Jan 2016 08:56:31
At last someone talks sense.

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24 Jan 2016 11:40:48
Yes I agree his selection as of late has improved. let's hope it keeps improving.

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24 Jan 2016 14:33:05
selection may have improved but the way the team sets up hasn't. Piss poor.

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