Everton Banter Archive March 23 2014

23 Mar 2014 22:49:21
Well, it's going to be an interesting game on Tuesday night. I honestly do not know what kind of Newcastle team will turn up, it could be the decent and energetic one in the last 15 mins against palace, or it could be the can't be bothered BS in the first half of the palace game.

Everton haven't been at their best, even though you beat Swansea it wasn't too convincing.

I hope we lineup with 3 in the midfield so we can try and matchup to your midfield and get something from the game otherwise I can see you's hammering us.

Swansea played really really on sat mate they make a lot of teams look average i'm going to put my neck on the line here an say we will walk away 4-1 winners lukaku gets two mirallas 1 an mcgeady gets 1 with Ben arfa getting your goal

24 Mar 2014 00:14:19
Depends what everton side turns up mate, when we are bad our opposition are always good, there is never a case of us being bad and our opponents being bad, if we are bad we get punished, tim krul is a good keeper and I like gouffran and debuchy but some of your players are dodgy, santon is woeful, mbiwa is woeful, tiote is overrated and can get too involved in games, sissokho is meh, remy is good and will be your main threat, I see the key battles being out wide, hopefully mcgeady can rip into santon and same with mirallas on debuchy, your wingers, gouffran works hard and will be a handful for coleman, I said that about hazard and ben arfa at goodison earlier and he had both in his pocket so meh, ben arfa vs baines will not be too interesting, last season when we drew 2-2 (remember we were robbed), ben arfa was on the left and hibbert had him in his back pocket, i'm not too worried about him, tbh I don't think many wingers get the better of baines, oh how I miss the days when antonio valencia was good, him vs baines was very exciting too watch, anyway, I digress, anita and tiote will have to cope with ross, anita seems like a carthorse but very weak, tiote is an animal but things go to his head and I see ross frustrating him, sissokho against barry and mccarthy, well, we shall see, lukaku against coloccini and mbiwa or wheoever you play, don't worry, lukaku hasn't tormented a defender since we played united at old trafford, he bullied vidic, but since, has been in phil bardesleys, olssons, williams and god knows how many defenders pockets, remy against distin will be interesting, remy is as one footed as richard dunne so won't worry us on his left, remy is fast, distin is fast, distin has kept up and outpaced walker, ealcott, valencia, jerome, long and benteke (outmuscling benteke too) you know? that's what he is up against, but despite all this i'm predicting a 2-1 win for youse, remy catching stones off guard and a header from one of your centre backs with 10 minutes to go with us taking the lead through another baines 35 yard free kick lol, our players will underperform I guarantee you

I'm guessing this is another late night log in because that's the strangest prediction and assumption av seen, then to round it off you predict a loss after ripping apart there team, add to that remy is injured anyway, like I say strange post all round

{Ed025's Note - im with you there mike, even if we are not at our best i expect us to beat them, i think he may have had a stella moment there mate.. :)

I agree with Mikedeblue there. You have good knolwedge but my god are you negative. You should be a critic mate.

But guys you have to remember that Swan is never happy unless he is moaning about something!

23 Mar 2014 19:09:15
Anyone know when Jags is back because Lord we need him!

23 Mar 2014 21:00:40
I couldn't help but feel the same. Think stones is a great prospect, but its just too early for him and he makes me nervous. The soonerjags Iis back the less I will feel like having a heart attack. For some reason I never felt nervous when duffy got a game for us, heitinga on the other hand towards the last season with us made me nervous like stones does now. Wonder why martinez starts stones before alcaraz?

23 Mar 2014 16:41:28
Its about time Miralas is given a rocket or at least dropped for a few games. He is awful at the momment and I can't remember the last game he did well in. His 2 assists yesterday hide the way he played yesterday, his effort was poor, fell over every time he received the ball or gave an appalling pass to no one. People give Osman a lot of stick(not called for imo) however this ordinary player gets away with everything. He's playing for the World Cup and that's it, making sure he doesn't get injured, the only thing I can think of as to why he is selling us short as fans. Get rid in summer, and get someone who wants to play for the fans and more importantly play as part of the team.

23 Mar 2014 17:31:32
I agree, he was awful, I love him though, he is exciting but recently he seems to be scared of taking anyone on, last season, ripping into wisdom, bosingwa and whoever he came up against, now he won't and seems afraid of getting stuck in, I wouldn't sell him but I wiukd certainly drop him and let him know the club and the fans come first, not him

He is the type of player who can change a game in a flash though so I don't think it would be wise to drop him he mite just need a bit of a rest maybe just rm have a little word with him an say your sitting out the next match an one or two training sessions because you need a break I definitely would not leave him out longer than one game that's for sure

23 Mar 2014 20:29:17
Perhaps he won't get stuck in because he has a lucrative move lined up for the summer. Just a thought as I have no evidence.

I agree his form has dipped. However, no single player can put in performance after performance. Perhaps he needs a little rest? If we got rid of everyone who has a couple of bad names, we would have no one.

23 Mar 2014 08:24:30
Just a question which I'd like some views on. Should we be looking at trying to sign Hatem Ben Arfa from Newcastle? It's been well documented that he's had a poor season by his standards. And yet I know what he is capable of even though he 's not shown that consistently of late. I feel they he's currently stuck in a rut, missing Yohan Cabaye and could be tempted with a move to us especially if we can offer European football next season. I also think that Ross would learn a lot from Ben Arfa and could forge a good understanding together in midfield. Ben Arfa's only 27 and could be bought for between 7/8 million. What do you guys think?

Daveyboy I totally agree. I have been telling anyone who will listen that we should go for both Ben Arfa and Remy. Especially Ben Arfa. The lad is a magician. Under RM he would be worth 30m. He is totally wasted at Newcastle.

Davey, he is a very exciting player but isn't what we need to bring Ross on. Ross' biggest issue is that he's a little selfish for a midfielder and doesn't look up enough. These are the exact same criticisms I have with Ben Arfa.

Not someone I would look to acquire to move are club on.

Whether or not he's really worth it, I imagine that NUFC will want nearer £12M to £15M for him.

Nah mate, Benny is staying at the toon and won't leave for everton! Hopefully we'll see him playing up against baines mid week, that will be an interesting match up.

23 Mar 2014 13:25:25
No thank you, he has talent but is very greedy, like to the extreme, when they lost 2-0 to sitteh, when they were 1-0 down in the last minute, ben arfa gets the ball and hits it straight at hart, didntbeven look up, he is also wasteful, weak, lazy and, for this season, overweight, i'd rather stick jonny vegas on the wing

Sorry but can't agree Toffee Ace and Swan. I think he's exactly who we need as an attacking right sided midfield player. If not to buy how about a loan deal?

Davey, I actually agree with most of your post . But not the Ross bit. I can't see how Ben Area can help. We need a mid fielder, a creative one at that. One that will look up, see a pass when it's on and not get caught in possession. These are what Ross needs to learn from. What Ben Area does is not see the pass, not look up an shoot from positions that need more patience.

Ben Arfa is exactly what we do not need. He has got talent but he is far too inconsistent, seems to make a lot of wrong choices, and is far too greedy. He seems to think it is his duty to take on the whole defence on his own when a simple pass would be such a better option. He is frustrating too watch. There are much better options out there than Ben Arfa. I like Newcastle and follow them(still a Blue), and from a Newcastle perspective I would like them to offload him and get someone in to do a job consistently and not play brilliantly in some games and dreadfully in others. I think that some people on here have watched match of the day, read things etc. regarding yesterdays match and are making an opinion about him possibly being a good signing based on that game in which he did have a good game.

Don't agree with vast majority as stated earlier. Ben Arfa is a class act. If you can't see his quality then that's your (in my opinion, very poor) judgement. Players often perform better when they are in a 'good place'. Since his injury I'd say Ben Arfa is anywhere but in a good place. This lad has the quality to be one of the best out there, he needs a manager who is going to give him confidence and allow him to play with the arrogance that allows him to glide past 2 or 3 as if they weren't there. If the criticism is that he doesn't pass enough then that's ridiculous. Believe it or not the hard part is actually skinning people and making them look like fools. The easy part is managing them in a way that means they value an assist as much as a goal. Ben Arfa with the right management and motivation could play at the very top.

Thank you Oli, a voice of sense and reason. Ben Arfa is a class player who would provide the sort of silky skills we've not seen since Mikel Arteta departed to the Arse. A little Gallic flair is what's needed even if others can't see it.

You lot are deluded. In my earlier post I admitted he has got talent but you either do not watch him on a consistent basis and have seen few performances or are jut ignorant to his blatant downfalls of his game. I have watched him consistently and know that sometimes he can be brilliant but in too many cases is poor. Plus the lad does not understand the concept of a 'team'. I don't understand the fascination with such players, as yes on their day they are an absolute joy to watch but cannot be relied upon. He has one good game, and he is class. He doesn't really dominate the team sheet at Newcastle, do you think he would do that here? He is not Everton player, has the wrong attitude. You lot are not considering all the facts before making your judgements.

The T*t: note to self. Do not call people deluded who don't share your point of view. It makes you look stupid. Do not call people ignorant when they do not share your point of view. It makes you look stupid. Don't claim to be some sort of false Toon oracle of knowledge, it makes you look stupid. Don't use big undefined phrases like 'Everton player' that you don't understand, it makes you look stupid. When you only have one point to actually offer (in essence you think he's inconsistent) don't take 7 lines to deliver it. It makes you look stupid.

If I have offended you via the use of the term "deluded", I apologise as I did not mean it personally. It is not because people do not share the same opinion it is because there are clear facts which are going ignored. I am not claiming to be some false toon oracle of knowledge, I watch him consistently and suspect that you do not. Please elaborate on how I don't understand the phrase 'Everton Player'?

Thanks a lot to the Ed who posted my reply. I get called a tit twice and a bit about that having a small brain because they have state I took 7 lines to sate one point when in fact it was more than point.