Everton Banter Archive June 22 2013

22 Jun 2013 22:12:58
I reckon if fellaini goes, as usual about 9 or 10 million pounds of the dish we get for him will go back to the bank leaving us with only 13-14 million squid. With the sale of heitinga & gueye + the 15 million we already have to spend, that should leave Martinez with about 30-35 million to spend on new players. Out of this money I would like to see the following players bought;
* Bruno manga (£5 million)
* Honda (£8 million)
* negrado (£17 million) or soldado (£10 million)
* mcmanaman (£4 million) or Moses (£8 million)
* fer (£8 million)

Obviously, we can't afford all these players, but if 'manga', 'Honda', 'soldado', 'mcmanaman', & 'fer' were all bought, that equals about £35 million (that's assuming I have got my player valuations right which I probably havn't as I'm not 100% sure how much they are exactly worth.

A few points:

1) Any money we have will need sharing between the fees, wages, etc.

2) Honda has a mere 5-6 months on his contract left, so £8m is never going to happen. I'd be surprised if he fetches any more than £3.5m.

3) BK has said Martinez won't get 80% of the funds generated from sales, he will get 100%. Of course it may be BK BS, but he's going to look stupid if he doesn't give Martinez 100%.

Don't take these points as offence, as it's not. I am just stating points to make it a little more realistic. Don't take any of them as a 'dig' at you, because I know you said you aren't sure on the valuations, I'm just stating the corrections.

Other than that, it would be a very nice window if it were to happen.

Soldado is miles better than Negredo and is worth at least a few million more not the other way round

I reckon Soldado and Negredo would be closer to £22mill Zacki

TJ

I think Honda is available cheapish as he is running his contract down

Fer would be a good signing, he seems keen to move to us as well

Everton Dave

22 Jun 2013 20:16:46
Edd do we have a 25% sell on clause on Rooney?

Sinno24 {Ed025's Note - only on the profit sinno..

22 Jun 2013 16:50:52
Leon Osman is way better than Honda {Ed025's Note - hmmm..

Ossie has been a great player for us, but Honda would be a step up in class I reckon

Everton Dave

22 Jun 2013 16:53:05
Obviously a decent striker is top priority but what would people say is next top priority?

I'd say a box to box centre mid dynamo / playmaker is next - but of course good ones don't come cheap

Graveson was great at this pulling the strings with great passes and intelligent movement - another one like him please! Who else is like him out the that's in our price range?

I'd agree, although depends on whether Fellaini stays or goes. If Fellaini stays we need one (preferably a new number 10 and hopefully Fellaini as an defensive mid). If he leaves, we need both

A Honda or wanyama I would say with felli still in the team, I know ones a amc and other sits more but they could inter change with ease, I also think diame would be a good buy

MikeDeBlue

22 Jun 2013 20:33:36
Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang is the one gor me

I'd say Etienne Capoue (not had as good a season as last season, but still solid), Lewis Holtby (highly unlikely Tottenham will let him go, but he'd like to come to us) and Radja Nainggolan (haven't seen much of him, but heard good things) are probably the three best in our range. That said, I think with the right coaching and development, Ross the Boss could be an excellent one.

22 Jun 2013 16:24:25
The new everton kit

http://youtube.com/watch?v=M6r_93rG2H4

Efcblue84

Sleeves make it look cheap

22 Jun 2013 13:12:06
HOWARD

JAGEILKA ALCARAZ (FREE) DISTIN


COLEMAN BAINES


HONDA (4M) FER (8M) PIENNAR


MIRALLAS

JELLAVIC


SUBS: BA (CHESEA 7M)
DI SANTO (WIGAN FREE)
MALONEY (WIGAN 3M)
OSMAN
GIBSON
AL HABSI (WIGAN 2M)

Personally, Gibson is too good to be sitting on the bench!

TC

People need to get over FER he ain't that good, no were near the big fella

I hope we don't go 3 at the back, for me, leaves us a bit exposed, and when we did try it this season, it wasn't as effective as I had hoped. Mainly because Baines was really ineffective, caught between tracking back and staying forward and it doesn't suit his style of play. Baines thrives on playing with a winger, mainly Pienaar, as he has quick feet, good football IQ and can make brilliant runs to unlock the defence, with 3 at the back, that doesn't work.

Hope Martinez sticks to 4 at the back, because I think it suits Baines and Coleman much better.

22 Jun 2013 11:59:23
Disagree. Player's sell season tickets. When the board show us the money they will get mine

Not much of a supporter then are you mate?
Andy The Chef

22 Jun 2013 11:38:42
I hope barkley gets used more this season as Martinez seems to not be scared to throw youngsters in without playing to many at once, didn't really shine to much from his loan spells were he should be at a level were he could stand out more, it dosnt help to be passed from club to club aswell

love to seem him as sub more regular and playing like when he burst onto the scene at the start of two seasons ago, I don't see the point in bringing on Naismith and exspecially hitzslberger on when you got someone like him on the bench.

MikeDeBlue

He plays better in the osman role and plays better than osman. He should be given a chance there

22 Jun 2013 11:27:27
I think we should looking into leagues like the French, Belgium and Dutch ones. Some great players in them leagues that dint get enough recognition and will be available on the cheap

We got Gueye from France.

And I will happily pay his transfer fee again to get him out.

22 Jun 2013 11:01:09
Right let's be honest Fellaini is one of the best players in our team but he can be replaced, if we do get the whole £24m or around that then our team could get so much better with the style that Martinez (who for me is saying all the right things at the moment and is making me really excited) like for example Fer can do the same job as Fellaini for only £6-8m get rid of Heitinga and bring in Manga for the same price.

But what the main thing is our striking force hasn't been good for years yes jelavic was class and could still be if he gets into form again but I want someone who is born to create chances and score goals, there is a little gem out there waiting for us.

Possible ins:
Fer
Manga
Redmond
McGeady
Kone
and a class A striker

Outs:
Fellaini
Heitinga.

22 Jun 2013 08:49:26
Apparently where after this guy, who knows, but heres some info on him.
Fortunately for the Toffees, Martinez is very experienced when it comes to working on a tight budget and he seems to have found a potentially brilliant signing in the form of Bruno Ecuele Manga.

Manga is a 24-year-old right sided centre back who is around the perfect age to blend into Everton’s squad as Sylvain Distin and Phil Jagielka head towards the final stages of their careers.

He’s been at Lorient since 2010 and has only ever been involved in French football, which means if he has any preconceptions over moving to England, it should be a much easier transition for him to make.

He only played on 17 occasions last season for Lorient due to a bad knee injury which kept him out of action from the back end of 2012 through to the middle of February this year.

However, despite that injury, he did manage to secure some impressive stats last season.

He won 3. 6 aerial challenges on average based on his performances last year, which is only 0. 7 off the average of Manchester United captain Nemanja Vidic.

He also picked up three man of the match awards last season, which shows that he seems to be able to raise his game well for the big matches in order to produce a superb performance.

That’s significant for Everton fans because playing in the Premier League is much more difficult than a career in Ligue One and playing for Everton, a historic English club, means he’ll have to endure some big matches and big rivalries.

He also has a higher passing success rate on average than either Distin or Jagielka, which suggests he’s a more composed player on the ball.

That’s ideal for the club because Martinez may encourage Everton to play the ball out more from the back rather than taking the aerial route.

22 Jun 2013 06:48:59
i recently had a go at anichebe and quite a few fans agreed with me one dope said I don't go the game I am a season ticket holder in lower bullens. I am a fan of darron gibson and think he's a very under rated player. do fellow blues agree. I hear lee cattermole has been told he can leave sunderland, he is a decent player who martinez knows about afterhim being a wigan player, he sometimes gets sent off but is a good player and is only 25. when heitinga goes, sooner the better tony hibbert can also cover as a centre half. so keep the faith raggy COYB

22 Jun 2013 08:37:25
Darron gibson is very underrated his range of passing is superb, his energy and long shot is deadly if he wasn't as injury prone at united I think he is good enough to replace scholes, cattermole is poor basically another joey barton without the footballing ability

I agreed with you about victor toffepop, but i'm sorry mate not on this one. Cattermole, no mate defo not. I posted to a later post my feelings about him. Gibson is very good at what he does, which sometimes goes unnoticed by a lot of fans, but you can see the players are more comfortable when he's in the side.

The ones that said you don't go the game watch his best bits on match of the day and not the 85 mins were his losing the ball and can't control nothing, but I can't say I fancy catermole the guys a loose cannon and is no good suspended

MikeDeBlue

22 Jun 2013 01:31:51
i know this is a rumour site but have to laugh at some of the posts. seems to be a lot of lies and wishful thinking going on. if your not in the know, no point posting keek or something you read in a daily rag.

21 Jun 2013 23:37:46
Why is everyone getting their knickers in a twist because of the lack of transfer activity, Martinez hasn't even officially taken over yet, and anyhow this is how we act every summer, we never go straight out and spend spend spend, it'll be even more dragged out this summer because Martinez needs to assess our squad himself!

So what if the reds are buying player after player, let them buy all the second rate players they want, after all we should remember the story about the old bull and the young bull.

So relax everyone, its still 2 months till the new season, let's enjoy this summer of re-newed optimisum and hope, I've got faith in Martinez to bring in quality when the time comes!!

IMWT Kurajan

22 Jun 2013 01:36:45
have to agree. just cause the dirt are throwing money about. who cares what they do. (liverpool bought a load of players, why havnt we). some people need to grow up your sounding like a jealous boyfriend.

Remember the day Felli came? It was too late. We spent half of season at bottom half. You want it happen again?