Everton Banter Archive May 21 2013

21 May 2013 23:51:31
Just wanted to say the Klinsmann rumours are complete nonsense! It was just started by Paddy Power in an attempt for bets. Klinsmann wouldn't get the job. For a start, there would be players who wouldn't work with him, Tim Howard for one, who has spoken out against him in the past. Howard is a big name in the dressing room so he's likely to have his mates who would also be against him. BK wouldn't employ someone if it causes problems in the team, it'd be like AVB at Chelsea all over again. Klinsmann is also paid 2.5 million a year. That's just over 200k a week, Everton would never pay that for him.

Bluenose Dave

Ye mate but that is in dollars not pounds. Stef the blue

Is that how much he's paid wow that's crazy how much does the Spain manager get paid! {Ed007's Note - Wasn't Moyes on more than that? Dave's maths is a bit out, £2.5m p.a. is NOT £200k a week, it's about £50k a week. £200k a week is just over £10 million. Oh and Vicente del Bosque is on 1.5 million euros p.a.}

£2.5m divided by 52 = £48, 076. 92 per week.

EFCWhitesocks

When you convert into pounds he makes 32k a week

21 May 2013 23:36:16
Leroy fer and negaydo aren't cuming, benteke too expansive, lukaku going stoke on loan, Stubbs to become manager with Duncon as assistent, well finish 10th next seseon

Billyblie

Why so negative don't believe who's manager till he s signed on the dotted line and if players don't wanna come to our great club then so what we'll get players who want to join Everton football club be positive mate

Could I have some of that rubbish for my roses.

How negative can you get? Get a grip lad, jesus christ.

22 May 2013 07:02:58
Benteke isn't tht big is he Ed

Degsy {Ed025's Note - iv never took a shower with him degsy.. :)

21 May 2013 23:14:53
my son apps me. Dad 2012/13 EFC received £51. 7M for broadcasting rights for the 14 matches shown. So he asks, where's the money gone for new players? Sounds like a damn good question to me.

21 May 2013 23:16:28
For once I'm genuinely excited about Everton in the summer! Moyes going is a bad thing sure but he is the only manager I have ever known, a change will be nice

Moyes joined when I was ten so am a little nervous but very excited about the summer as well
COME ON YOU BLUE BOYS

21 May 2013 22:52:20
Hope this Pereira business is right, I can't emphasize how excited I would be. Maybe we will all be wrong and he will take us nowhere and he may leave next year but boy if it comes off the board have shown for ambition, and I tell you, I never thought I would say that

Pinching a top manager from a title winning club, that would be some coop.

But knowing Everton for so many years, it'll be Nev with about 20 quid to work with. Everton that

Excited, worried, anxious, optimistic, pessimistic. not sure anything sums up what we're all feeling, let's hope we get the right conclusion ey?

Alex

21 May 2013 23:01:17
You just described us all Al, we couldn't get this guy, could we, think we are all getting excited and would love it to be true

Degsy

21 May 2013 22:02:37
Is it me, or is it really strange that 'fellaini' moved houses to Manchester earlier in the season so say to stop women drooling over him, or was he in the know about moyes becoming man united manager. Couple this with the fact that moyes stAted shortly after fellainis house move that he wouldn't b signing any contract til after the season finished. & now we have stories that fellainis wants to follow moyes to man united, I reckon there's a lot going on behind the scenes that none of us were aware of & I reckon everton fc have been taken to the cleaners on this one. What does everyone else think? {Ed025's Note - i think your adding 2+2 and coming out with 5 solly mate..

21 May 2013 23:01:53
Its you

Degsy

It may well be a total coincidence with regards Fellaini, (Although unless they do not have women in Manchester it does seem a bit of a lame excuse) I for one do not believe things happened as the "official" story is being touted. As Kevin Ratcliffe said in an interview recently, A 6 year contract negotiated, signed and sorted in 2 days, 1 day of which Moyes was in London is hard to believe.

The point here is a simple one though, none of it matters. Moyes has gone, doesn't matter if he knew well in advance or not, Fellaini was always going to move on, and if he doesn't want to play for us so be it, I don't want him or anyone else who is not 100% committed to Everton at the club.

One point to think about though, word has it there will be money to spend this summer, if true it is not something that happened overnight with a random figure plucked out of the air, so Moyes would have known or at least had a good idea that he would have been able to strengthen the squad this summer, yet he decided not to sign a new contract? However life goes on and so will Everton.

21 May 2013 21:50:27
saw some1 said about a merseyside XI and I don't know how people put reina in before tim. reina flapps at everything more like a drunk duck really

21 May 2013 21:13:10
Dunno bout you's (both evertonians and eds) but I am really excited at the prospect of a new manger aspecially if its pereira with new football style and new players plus this pre-season cup looks really exciting I was as sad as anyone when Moyes news came out and I cried for god sake on the lap of honour but we have to move on and keep the players COYB


PADDOCK BLUE

21 May 2013 20:26:18
You can have a go and say it rubbish but a manager will be appointed by the end of the month he only has continental experience but is the right man to lead us forward with a big transfer kitty (by our standards anyway) COYB

21 May 2013 19:00:05
firstly I am a leeds fan and so am totally unbiased about who I think your new manager will be. secondly I am a gambler and like to look at the candidates thoroughly. I personally think that the reason you have not moved for kenwrights candidate is because you are a club of integrity and do things the right way and this managers season has not finished yet. step forward mr zola. he has premier league experience both as a player and manager. he only has 1 year left on his contract so not huge compo. he can work on a budget. he bloods youngsters. he is highly respected and is a gentleman who would understand your history. I have backed him at huge prices on the exchanges and stand to win 30 grand if it happens. thoughts appreciated

No thanks

21 May 2013 20:26:04
the drinks are on you then

Original poster here. kenwright must have a contingency plan in place as moyes contract was due to run out. this will not be a knee jerk reaction. in managers markets the odds go up and down like rooneys boxers at a brothel. tony pulis made me laugh - apparently he has several offers from super league teams!

If Zola were to be appointed I think I would be more optimistic than if it were a promotion from within.

Hank

21 May 2013 19:40:44
Looks like its Perria porto manager Coyb. Stef the blue

Yes it's pereira with a top porto ace following to Everton

21 May 2013 17:57:20
I know it's a bit of a long shot but what about a move for N'Zogbia, he's looking to leave for a new challenge and we almost signed him before he went to villa if my memory serves me right. 7-8.5 mil I reckon we could get him for. what does everyone else think? Ed?

EtidAaron {Ed025's Note - too much for him IMO aaron..

Sorry, never finished my post. the photo's of Moyes laughing with Fergie in the back of a car was a slap in the face to Everton fans. Although I've been a big fan of Moyes as a manager, I have posted before that I think he started to treat us with contempt months ago. I don't think we can blame BK, what can he do to stop it? sack him.

I would have hoped that Moyes could have had a bit more respect for the club and the fans that gave him the opportunity to become the manager he is today. let's see if he's still laughing in a years time when the fans, media and old red nose himself are on his back. Chelsea, City and Arsenal will all be stronger, Utd without fergie will be much weaker, so when he's battling just to make the top four, let's see if he's still smiling then.

Martin please let it go. You need to move on mate seriously. let's start looking to the future and focus all our time on the mighty blues.

Moyes loves Everton and would Never disrespect the club. season is over so what's left to manage the players summer hols?no point in him targetting any players either so just let him go. He cerrtainly has my blessing and gratitude for saving us from oblivion

Blue60

21 May 2013 16:49:07
I'm sorry but I will be disgusted by both BK and the board if they appoint from within we must get an experienced manager! {Ed025's Note - i agree..

Sorry forgot to sign off.
Joe EFC

21 May 2013 15:40:22
Here's an idea. Let Neville take Stoke job, give him three/four years to gain experience. Then move him into the Mc Cartney Stadium (would call it that if the tight bugger would invest in a new ground) would even let him have concerts there, for a price of course.

21 May 2013 15:11:54
Steve pulis has left stoke. If we even consider him, I will cry. {Ed025's Note - i would not even consider tony, never mind steve!..

21 May 2013 15:53:07
You are a card Ed

Degsy

Ed025:

Charlie Mourinho has just left Real what's the odds? :)


Blue247 {Ed025's Note - the same as steve pullis 247.. :)

21 May 2013 14:53:14
Ed's why do you guys still allow posts to be submitted when that certain newspaper is a source, can we not all agree now to never use their name or any names that we call them i. e. in any posts.

I know people have their own opinions but I would like to think 99. 99999 percent of us do not to want to ever see it mentioned on our website pages again, majority rules Ed's 7 and 25

Simply don't publish any post with a mention of that rag, ever again please

He ain't heavy he is my brother (and finished below us again)

JFT96 Degsy {Ed025's Note - im not a fan of it either degsy..

21 May 2013 15:45:36
Then we should ignore sly too and the rest of news international. There's plenty of publications I wouldn't wipe my arse with but like others i've an insatiable desire for news about my team! {Ed007's Note - If you believe Sly Spurts then I'm sorry, you're an idiot. Why do they tell you the odds connected to every story? The 10 o'clock news doesn't give you the odds on murders does it? Anything that has been tainted with the hands of a Murdoch should be ignored. I'm on Degsy's side about this.}

Here here degsy. that rag should not be sold on merseyside as far as I'm concerned. I wouldn't soil myself using it as loo roll! jlaff

21 May 2013 17:29:47
So Everton and Liverpool must give back the television money then is the logical conclusion of your position. Its a shame you can't argue, Ed without personal insults. {Ed025's Note - i dont do insults mate..

Love it or hate it its still a paper with some insight. And the Sun wouldn't sell papers on Merseyside if people didn't buy them.

Danny S {Ed025's Note - its a disgrace danny..as well as the people that buy it!..

21 May 2013 13:55:38
Klinsman, Bilic and Pereira front runners for Toffee hotseat, Martinez looks to be staying at Wigan to win promotion

EtidAaron

21 May 2013 12:55:10
from spanish league - Fernando Amorebieta, Javier Saviola, Jaime Gavil�n, Adri�n.

Germany - Thomas Kahlenberg,

Italy - Mathieu Flamini, Daniele Bonera, Emmanuel Badu.

What about them? RW

21 May 2013 10:28:12
Ed do u think in your opinion our next managiier will come from within the club or will it be someone from outside {Ed007's Note - I'm sticking by my guns that he will come from within the club, Phil Neville or Allan Stubbs.}

Ed I am beginning to believe its an internal appointment also. I read an artcile in which Southall is quoted as saying it should basically be someone with an affinity and a passion for the club (i. e. someone internal) also ratty was is quoted by talks. t (along with slating BK) as stating that the club does not have the luxury of paying compensation to another club should the new manager be under contract elsewhere. I am resolute now that it will be from within. not necessarilly a bad move. but the disappointment will be that it could be the only option rather than a preferred choice. jlaff

21 May 2013 11:44:50
I am really getting worried our next manager is going to come from within in the club if it does well i'm sorry blues but all I can see is dark skies coming over Goodison again and I will be devastated.

21 May 2013 12:07:02
Like I stated stef last week, if its an inside job then we have minimal dough for transfers mate, if its a fancy foreign manager then cash will be available in abundance.

Personally I just want someone to hurry up and get named because its getting tiresome now and I think is doing all of our heads in.

I thought it would happen this week but looks like I am wrong because there is not a whisper coming out of Goodison with any credibility.

Bill must be trying to save a few weeks wages lol

I know one thing though and that is no matter who is nambed (including Rafa) we would all be behind him, it would be hard for me with Rafa but I am a forgiving sort of bloke.

Blue have a lot more class than some fans who would boo their manager even if they were winning, i. e. classless Chelski

Degsy

Dito, and the same for Martinez, Mackay, Lennon

the same with people who say don't worry, sorry but it's never been 'in Bill we trust'

Our club needs taking forward, I won't be happy just treading water in the same place or going backwards

(if moyes stayed and said we will be going down the table next season all the fans would be up in arms, We expect him to take the team in to europe and our new manager has to do the same MINIMUM!)

Stef:

I am pretty much in agreement with you here Stef,

If you look at what MUFC have done by taking DM on board it does make a lot of practical sense i. e. DM had said many years ago that managing them was his ultimate goal,
He was not only in the wings waiting he was honing his skills to the penultimate perfection with us.

Going in house with unproven ex players is far too risky in this day and age imo.

The pressure of managing any PL club must be a humongous challenge and one that demands some experience managing in a league that has real competition.

It's one box that must be ticked BK!

Blue247

On a positive note. If it was going internally wouldn't it have been done by now?

No need to wait for the season to be over. nothing to save on wages.

There are so many factors to consider when recruiting from another club that its bound to take some time.

Maybe this time we will get something to shout about.

COYB
Toffee ace.

21 May 2013 10:50:20
So many posters are speculating on how much money the club will have from the new TV deal, finishing sixth, outgoing transfers, etc. , that I've begun to wonder how much would really be available for incoming transfers.
The club has surely already used this "future" income as security for previous loans, which have to be serviced (e. g. interest payments) and will have to be repaid in full at some point and are probably of a fixed-term length requiring renegotiation and/or extension (quite soon I imagine) until we can repay them.
With our lack of matchday income (due to having no modern stadium) and our comparatively small other commercial income, we cannot currently compete financially with many other clubs (domestic or European).
If we'd got into the UEFA Champions League group stages, that would have been a financial "game changer" for our club IMHO, but we didn't.
I'd be very pleasantly surprised if some of the managerial names being bandied about would want the challenge at Everton while the club doesn't have the finances to compete. Whatever the criticisms of David Moyes, the club finished higher in the table than clubs with bigger incomes/turnovers, bigger wage bills, bigger squads, etc. , but could that be sustained by a new manager?
Without big funding, would a new manager find - and then develop - relatively inexpensive gems like Baines, Jagielka, Lescott, Arteta, Pienaar, Cahill, etc.?
Without incoming transfers, would a new manager be able to bring through the young talent at the club and, more importantly IMHO, take the risk of putting such inexperienced talent into the first team?
With an ageing squad of limited numbers - and younger players learning their trade - would a new manager be able to play an expansive, progressive, attacking, entertaining, winning style?
So, how many of the names - especially the foreign ones - would really be interested in the challenge at Everton if there's little (or no) money and little (or no) prospect of European qualification?
I hope my reasoning is wrong.
Once a blue, always a blue!

We have not used future income, because of our situation banks would not allow this, we operate 5 million in the red a season, which the club has highlighted many times, this is balanced out by player sales, which the money is kept in a account to meet the payments each month or however it's set up, depending on the income made in that time.
With the new tv deal if I remember right it's worth 12-14 mil a year, this based on the lowest leaves us operating 6 mil in the black! We are about to offload some high earners, and big possibility felli will move, this should put us in good position to get in some players, and put us in a position to operate in the black and not be forced to sell as in the past!

21 May 2013 09:39:11
The sun says Phil Neville will be interviewed for the managers job in the next week any thoughts anybody?

DONT READ THE SUN. RW

I think you shouldn't read the sun.

Dont read the s*n

Why you reading that rag?

What are you doing reading that shxt? (Wavertree Blue)

The Sun! Come on mate! F*ck me! JFT96!

Everton Al. {Ed025's Note - im with you al..

21 May 2013 12:22:28
It also says there is a hidden planet in the sat system, that the world is going to end this year, that Obama is really an Alien and that Liverpool are a good side! ( last one really says it all about the sun)

Everything in the Sun is made up and it's only good for lining the boot of my car to soak up dampness!

Kurajan

21 May 2013 09:17:06
Just Joined, Everton fan from South London (courtesy of my old man moving down here many a moon ago from liverpool).

great find this website.

It's always hard to know what rumours have some fact behind them and which one's don't, especially on the internet.

For me, I would support an internal appointment like any fan would but I would be dissapointed if that is the route Kenwright decides to take. Personally Pereria or Martinez would be my favourties if I had the choice.

For what it's worth I've been told that if Steve Round wants the job it's his. But then I got told months ago that Moyes was leaving and that Steve Clarke would be replacing him!

Anyway I hope it's resolved soon, I'm finding myself checking the internet pages every hour to see if there are any developments. {Ed025's Note - BK will not rush into anything southern, its a big decision mate..

Yano what I was thinking the other day how well Steve Clarke has done at west brom but whether its one lucky season or not only time will tell. COYB

Yep had similar thoughts while thinking of the prem managers I would not mind replacing Moyes only two options for me Laudrup and Clarke.
SA90

21 May 2013 08:44:25
I don't no who I want as boss am going to crack up please let it end soon please!!! But please let it end well!!!

Im with you on this Dan, Its exciting but I just want it all sorted and to end well. Surely not too much to ask for? haha

21 May 2013 07:54:45
Please no not Martinez why would anyone want hum as boss he jus had a team sent down bill U said U would listen to the fans and the fans R saying please no not Martinez

18 May 2013 14:22:19
with all the rafa rumors, do we go and get him? we do need someone who can not only attract players but can also convince our main players to stay at the club, rafa has a great cv compared to the likes of martinez, mackay ect. would you take him ed? {Ed025's Note - he is a good manager, but needs big money to work with, which he wont get with us, so i dont think it will happen..

Looks like he is off to Napoli anyway

20 May 2013 23:07:46
heard rumours that United are ready to offer 12million + Danny Welbeck on loan, what you think ed? {Ed007's Note - I can't see Utd paying another team £12m to take a player on loan, although Welbeck is awful.}