Everton Banter Archive January 21 2013

 

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21 Jan 2013 23:25:57
Absolutely terrible game, definitely need to freshen up the team for the next game I'd personally try-

Howard

Jagielka Distin Heitinga Baines


Mirallas Osman Fellaini Pienaar


Anichebe Naismith

Jelavic needs a break and as much as I haven't been a fan of Vic he looks like the only player having a real go lately and as much as people keep sledging Naismith I say give him a go in his natural position. Would also like to see Duffy get a game at the back but was trying to be realistic as there's no way Moyes would play him. What's everyone's thoughts?

SydneyBlue

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Why play heitinga at cb? did you not see it a few weeks ago when he was playing there, he was terrible and made so many mistakes

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21 Jan 2013 23:21:29
ok, today was not great but it was the Swansea draw that has annoyed me because it was a home game, and tonight was always going to be hard away against a struggling team with a new gaffa. (would have been better off beating Swansea and loosing tonight).

we HAVE to win the next 2 games both at home (we need to open up a gap on arsenal and lpool) hoping they draw next week and we pick up 3 points.

jelavic has been having trouble all season, but he has been playing well and putting in the effort, tonight however was different, he was none existing and everybody was hoping he got his 1 chance, he did and I almost feel sorry for him, like he's trying to hard, he tried to smash it with his left and really think he would have been better just opening up his body and placing it with his right (just guiding it in, the ball had the right pace on it, just needed directing) andway the chance and game has gone.

victor is looking like a totally new signing and deserves a start in the next LEAGUE game, and really hope moyes has a trick or 2 up his sleeve with a cm and a striker needed badly.

sorry for babbling on but to sum up, were 5th in the league, lost just 3 all season and were 4 points above our competition and just 3 behind a champions league place, we all would have took that so lets get behind the team and start a fresh in out next league game, its a night game and hopefully goodison will be rocking, gibson should be back aswell. imwt coyb

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21 Jan 2013 23:14:33
After today I'll make a few points.

1. I am by no means a bic vic fan but after today I think him and mirallas should start upfront because jelavic just is not performing.

2. People are always moaning about naismith working hard but not doing anything else...have any of you seen jelavic lately ?, all he does is run and miss chances.

3. Neville needs to be dropped, yes I know he is a good influence for the team in the dressing room but is it better to have a quiet player in the dressing room who is brilliant on the pitch or someone who will speak up but is not good in any way besides passing backwards ?.

Need new signings, I'm content with a point because we should of been 3-0 down at half time so I suppose we should be grateful, I know I've been negative but I believe I have a right to be.


Phil, COYB!!

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21 Jan 2013 22:59:49
Poor performance. why won't moyes let players like hitz and oviedo start a game for once as the players look tired. you wouldn't think they had a longer break. Anichebe and mirallas played well when they came on. Naismith is not a winger so why can't moyes see that. We had oviedo and mirallas on the bench but played naismith on the right instead. I don't and never have rated osman. We miss gibson a lot. jelavic lets not go there. not the player he was.We need to start giving the youth a chance up top with anichebe and vellios. were not a top 4 team. more like 7th again Andy

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21 Jan 2013 22:53:03
Dont know what he'd cost but thought sneiderling (sorry about the spelling) is exactly what we need in the middle of the park .Must be cheaper than M'vila and other rumoured targets!

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No he isn't cheaper, because he is not for sale-and if he was you couldn't afford him.

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21 Jan 2013 22:48:45
We need another striker who can hit 20 goals, jelavic lacking confidence at moment could give him a break& take pressure off him, I would go for holt or Shane long

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21 Jan 2013 22:21:38
Poor performance, should got 4/6 points from our last 2 PL games but still....

Pros:

- I thought Howard played well
- 2 Clean sheets in a row, although this one was a bit lucky
- Mirallas came on and didn't get injured
- I thought Vic played superbly when we came on

Cons:

-Baines and Pienaar were the worst I've seen them. This is OK if we have an attacking right side, but when it was Naismith and Neville, we offered very little

-Jelavic! What's gone on with him! Still believe that last season's player is still there, maybe he needs a rest or some fresh competition?!?!

-Coleman went off injured. We need Hibbo back ASAP imo

-The team lacked desire or energy in the first half

Imo, the next two games are absolutely crucial. If we don't get 6 points from them, I can see us falling off the race for 4, and finishing 6/7. Hopefully this game will shock the board into buying someone - I'm not asking for millions, just a couple of loans-to-buys. But I'd like a Striker, some CM cover and maybe a CB. I'm confident we can still get 4th if the board acts quickly and one-or-two players get their act together, but I'm gutted with the performance today. Anyway, onwards and upwards! COYB

AJ {Ed025's Note - good summary that AJ...spot on for me mate..

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Getting Mirallas back and losing Coleman is just one step forward, one step back.

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I blame Moyes for Jelavic's form as he has turned an out and out goalscorer to somebody who works hard and plays on the wings instead of working the confines of the penalty area, But Moyes ruins all our strikers by not allowing them to be strikers, so theirs no wonder he's not scoring goals. {Ed025's Note - I think he does try to do too much..

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21 Jan 2013 22:21:01
Couldn't watch second half, look tired no pace jelly needs some help we need moral las and gibbo back ASAP and some fresh faces, seen better on a Sunday morning, come on everton this is not us
Jc

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We need mirallas back?? he came on in the second half

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21 Jan 2013 22:20:49
Got to say the worst performance of the year by a mile, first half in particular was shocking

Worried about jelavic not good when your doing air shots, lack of confidence maybe and although i'm not one to call for a change being dropped might have to happen, shame we have little to replace him with {Ed025's Note - how about vic?..

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21 Jan 2013 22:15:14
That was quite possibly the worst Everton game I've ever seen; and I was at the Coventry game on new years eve 1983.
Moody Blue

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21 Jan 2013 22:14:42
Depressed after that. We need a few extra players to freshing thing up ASAP or else we will just slip down the league. The last 2 matches have been very damaging to our european chances.

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21 Jan 2013 22:09:09
Why every good striker we get moyes turn into crap just go through list tell me am wrong chase that all they get

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You're right:
Johnson
Yakubu
Beattie
Jelavic
Spent loads of them and they all turned crap

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That's because Moyes tries to make them into something there not as being a striker is not good enough for Moyes as he wants them to tackle, defend, press, run the channels and last of all score goals.

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Just wish for 1 game we could go more direct and go 4-3-3.
Give it a go

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21 Jan 2013 22:08:05
Looked tired tonight? Looked like a team that had been told we were getting any new players in. On the plus side Kevin back, and Victor looking good. Felt really sorry for Nico might be worth giving him a rest.

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21 Jan 2013 22:07:50
Need to get some striking options, Jelavic just isn't pulling his weight at the moment. Good to see DM drag him off and try something else - poor show on the whole though! :(

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Running all over the place without the ball. Needs support up top or we will end up turning him into a midfielder. Not his fault style of play to blame.

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21 Jan 2013 22:05:37
That was embarrassing to watch, never getting top 4 or even top 6 if we play like that. Disappointed to say the least.

ToffeeMike

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21 Jan 2013 22:04:30
Awful performance lucky to get away with a point reinforcements are needed we just can't seem to score anymore! On a plus side Vic was excellent when he came on.
Joe EFC

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21 Jan 2013 22:03:34
Someone promise me that Naismith, Peanuts and Osman will not be paid this week! pathetic display from them. People have a go at victor! at least he had a go.
Jon {Ed025's Note - fair comment jon..

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I felt Naisy played fairly good compared. When we got ever so close to getting the ball in on goal in the first half it had Naisy involved, even if it came to completely nothing..

It was hardly a world-class winger performance but I felt it was a step up from his other performances in the royal blue shirt.

Keith EFC.

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I thought Naisy was our best outfield player first half and that says a lot. I'm really starting to believe that he's an imposter and, in fact, isn't a professional footballer.

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21 Jan 2013 22:02:34
wow, how can we possibly play that bad?
are all the anichebe slaters, he gave us a lift when he came on actually game us an out let. I hate watching us play poor 180 mins not a single goal?
get a signing in Davey preferably a midfielder that will chip in with a goal and change the game!
Not Happy At All!!
Dan1

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21 Jan 2013 22:01:21
god that was sh*t3!

Half of em looked not bothered and the quality isn't there - this is what its like when we're missing hibbo gibbo and mirralas

Has Naismith won a single 50-50 challenge since like EVER? Watch him - he never wins a single one!

Pienaar completely absent

Distin and Howard look like they've got a cock up error in them every game and it's amazing when it doesn't come off

jelavic - oh dear - misses a sitter and not much else to report

osman was lightweight and gets robbed to easy

we need half a new team - hopefully gibson back soon - and hibbert - then please please Moyes sign Donovan for a month or two - otherwise we're mid table

(anichebe was good though and jags and baines - no one else though)

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21 Jan 2013 22:01:12
Naismith missing if found please return to finch farm

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Get off his back he wasn't the worse one out there tonight.

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21 Jan 2013 22:00:09
75k a week moyes earning every penny ste 45

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21 Jan 2013 21:59:45
Like most Toffees very dissapointed with that performance. We were sluggish, our chasing down was poor, no.physicality or pace in centre mid.
Yes jelly missed a sitter, but what other service did he get?
Vic did spice it up a bit, but ozzie was very poor.
If ever we needed two players in transfer window and that's a barn storming centre mid a ball winner like sneidling who played well for saints tonight and a right winger. Got to get more service to our forwards.
Peanuts needs to get his braids back. He's like sampson and appears to of lost a little mojo.
Yes sides know that we are attacking down left, hence more balance needed.
Take a point, but things need to change quickly. New faces needed to freshen things up.
Not all doom and gloom, but Moyes now needs to give the board a few home truths.
AW {Ed025's Note - good realistic post there mate..well done..

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21 Jan 2013 21:59:32
that was the worst display this season, I am so annoyed, jelavic needs to be dropped, no effort at all in the 1st half and the 1 chance he did have he wasted, victor changed us when he came on and should start from now on until jelavic gets his for back, i'm sorry but there's no chance of us finishing 4th now and 5th and 6th look dodgy with Liverpool starting to play well, were only 4 above arsenal who have a game in hand and we've got to visit
arsenal
chelsea
spurs
man you
lpool
really really annoyed, moyes needs to buy a striker asap

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21 Jan 2013 21:58:20
On BK get the chequebook put we need reinforcements after a good break we looked lacklustre but thought vic norall and mirallas livened it up

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21 Jan 2013 21:58:14
very poor display. Jelavic what can you say other than poor. Midfield none exciting. Need a DM desperately. Just note good enough .

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21 Jan 2013 21:58:10
Probably the worst performance by any Premiership side this season. Totally embarrasing. Defence just panicks, midfield desparate - Osman was a liability, Pienaar has lost it, Naismith not up to it, Anichebe only decent performer. All this against a very, very average side. Really depressed - where do we go from here? {Ed025's Note - it was poor mate..i agree, but you have gone a bit far..

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Southampton aren't average, they are a good side

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Southampton are a good side ? A good side would have wiped the floor with us last night and would have won quite comfortably. We only got a point because they couldn't hit a barn door, a bit like Jelavic.

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21 Jan 2013 21:57:35
That was the worst we've been this season, they had a long rest before this game too. Big Vic looked lively, deserves to start next game. Jelavic is trying too hard, needs someone to take the pressure off. Good to have mirallas back tho!

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21 Jan 2013 21:56:52
slightly better 2nd half than 1st but we need to start converting these chances its like swansea all over
again...

MikeEFC

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21 Jan 2013 21:55:16
Anichebe has got to start more games up front. he looks so dangerous every time and I think if jelavic doesn't get a break soon he'll turn into torres! just give him a few games on the bench and give vic a go

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21 Jan 2013 21:53:38
Absolutely disgrace its upsettin I've seriously never seen us play that bad osman naismith and neville were the worst but then again all players were jelavic needs dropping and anichebe and vellios upfront! I am a blue but thays shockin how bad we was! Tottenham arsenal and the reds must be laffin there heads off no chance of top 7 now

Ant wharton

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21 Jan 2013 21:53:16
Hope the Neville and Osman firm who jumped on my back had their eyes opened tonight. Embarrassing until Fellaini dropped in there. Not good enough! Need another centre mid.

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21 Jan 2013 21:52:56
That was gash!

Nostrawigus

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21 Jan 2013 21:50:55
Swear moyes said we would try different things tactically to get wins and not be predictable cause all I'm seeing is the same rubbish week in week out hoof ball to fellaini for someone who claims to the fans that we will be adventurous trying different things to win games all we're seeing is hoof ball to fellaini or our main attacking threat coming from the left flank its getting obisimal if we are serious about our ambitions for a top four finish he needs to pick a side to win and not a side where our players have to carry 1 or 2 players like Naismith and Neville in the midfield who don't offer enough there's a reason why we've drawn many games his favouritism of certain players is costing us oviedo should be getting in the team over Naismith week in week out but he's not moyes has got to take some blame on his part {Ed025's Note - you need to look elsewhere for bad performances mate, peanuts and ozzie were woeful..

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21 Jan 2013 21:38:49
Moyes should play mirallas up with jelly next game with fellaini just behind them both coleman pienaar out wide"

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21 Jan 2013 21:34:10
Awful first half, osman.... Neville are simply not good enough.... We need new blood. I will probably get slated but we have such a great chance to grab cl football and on this performance Southampton should be 5th and not us... {Ed025's Note - nev was not that bad for me..

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21 Jan 2013 21:10:13
What is going on with OsmannPienaar tonite {Ed025's Note - they were awful...and bainsey not much better, but ill give him a bad one..

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21 Jan 2013 20:58:15
Can't possibly play any worse than that in the second half. We should be three down. Lacking pace all over the pitch. I'd take a point now!

Nostrawigus {Ed025's Note - so would i nostra..

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I can't believe we are so bad, you would think that Everton had lost their manager, no pace, Soton seem to want it more, get it soughted Moyes, or go.

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21 Jan 2013 20:48:51
Awful. Possibly the worst I've seen us play so far this season. Our best player has been Naisy or Timmy, in my opinion. I trust Moyesy to dig into them now.

Here's to a rocket of a second half.

COYB.

Keith EFC.

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Yeah we just don't look interested, moysie better give them the hairdryer treatment half time.
Coyb

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21 Jan 2013 20:47:27
Think we should bring Jelavic on second half and the real Everton {Ed025's Note - jelly is getting no service at all...bring on osman, and pienaar..

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Good shout ed ! Think Vic could give us some aggression

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Jelavic shocking again. He got his obligatory 'sitter' and fluffed it...again.

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21 Jan 2013 20:37:57
Is this some joke!! Do we want to win this game or what! We look tired, uninterested and crap!!

Tree Blue

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21 Jan 2013 20:34:12
We are well off pace at mo. Saints disrupting us well. We are lacking pace.
Poor old jelly getting no service.
I can see a Moyes rocket coming at half time.

We just don't seem with it. Can see a change or two. Lambert playing well for saints.
Coyb {Ed025's Note - peanuts, and Ozzie need to get their finger out!..moyes needs to shake it up..

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Well done, mate. First post I have seen from another clubs supporter during/after a game with Saints that actually says something positive about Saints!

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21 Jan 2013 20:33:39
Hi fellow blues, not being negative, but does anyone believe we be getting anyone in jan? Because I don't

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21 Jan 2013 21:04:16
You are being negative

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21 Jan 2013 20:17:25
We need a cm desperately it's too week at the minute with no pace come one moyes pull a gem out son

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21 Jan 2013 19:50:24
I think everton should go for Adam llalana English supports everton and quality forget holtby

Thoughts

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Go where? He is not for sale.

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21 Jan 2013 19:14:02
Mirallas and Heitinga on bench coyb

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21 Jan 2013 18:47:43
Anyone no if mirallas is defo in the squad for 2nite moyes was a bit cagey about it yesterday...LIAM!! {Ed025's Note - on the bench mate..

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21 Jan 2013 18:45:17
rumours going round are:

Firstly we supposedly have around £8mil to spend...

Player-wise:

Ins:
M'Vila: QPR want him but we are also interested, but we can only offer a loan deal with an option to buy for approx £8mil in the summer. Also, apparently, he would prefer to come to us.

Donovan: in talks.

Capoue: deal unlikely.

Becchio: in talks with Leeds over a fee.

Diame: possibility of activating his £3.5mil release clause.

Outs:
Heitinga: in talks with Ajax. Some say we're looking for £5mil, others say £3.5mil.

Vellios: linked with a loan move to Hearts, but also linked with a loan move to Celtic as a deal-sweetener for a move to sign Gary Hooper from them.

As I said, these are all just rumours going round, but I thought I'd just update you all! Anyone reckon any of these will come off, or d'you think it's just all a load of bull..?

Murf

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21 Jan 2013 18:22:26
Ed can you give me step by step how to get first row on so I don't mess it up {Ed025's Note - i just posted it to jc

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21 Jan 2013 18:17:26
Landon Donovan 'absent' from LA Galaxy first training session of the new season today. Could he be on his way back to Goodison?
Coopa1878

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Dnt talk rubbish, ther season finished, no trainin, robbie keane trainin at spurs

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21 Jan 2013 17:27:30
Personally I don't think there is any truth I the M'Vila rumour, not Moyes' kind of player, a bit hot headed and not much of a utility player.

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21 Jan 2013 16:53:21
What's peoples thoughts on malouda off chelsea? been told he can leave. I know he's 32 but still decent player who can make an impact on the game! Can see them wanting much and with chance of first team football sure they can agree a wage.

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21 Jan 2013 16:41:59
Mirallas in the squad tonight! What a boost

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21 Jan 2013 16:32:06
We really need a meaty, something to get our teeth into rumour,
Something with a semblance of truth but not OTT.

10 more days and no genuine sightings, perhaps there might be somebody seriously linked with us sat in the stand tonight watching us.

Whilst I accept that with Gibbo and Kev back our first X1 is a match for anyone but as we all know a bit more strength in depth will help us to move onto bigger and better things,,,

Anybody been to Finch Farm today??
COYB

George.

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No point going to FF today as team are in Southampton

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21 Jan 2013 16:24:49
Another clean sheet for the blues tonight me thinks! 2-0 i'll go for with Peanuts first goalscorer :)

toffee jack

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I feel you may be in for a shock, toffee jack. Moyes didn't seem to know how Adkins sacking will influence the game. Well, it will. Saints will go all out to get 3 points as a fitting farewell to Nigel.
You are in for a real test tonight.

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21 Jan 2013 15:35:01
Anyone know we're I can stream the match online

Jc {Ed025's Note - firstrow sports is good jc..

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Vipboxtv is a good one

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Athde.net works a treat

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Www.thefirstrow.eu

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Watchpremierleague.net/ is a decent one

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Sky player

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Are these free or do you have to pay {Ed025's Note - they are free mate, well i know first row is..

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Coolsport.tv - that's the best one. And if it doesn't work (which is very unlikely) myp2p.pe will have loads.

Or if the worst comes to the work you can pop down the pub as it's on Sly.

Keith EFC.

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What do I type in ed for first row and I know it sounds daft
Jc {Ed025's Note - google firstrow sports...download the livid ap..then go to link 3..

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Vipbox.tv is free and has, at the moment, 8 links including 1 HD

Norfolkblue

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21 Jan 2013 15:17:45
Hi guys not a rumour as such I just wanted to ask why the hell are we never on the tv transfer thing ? :/

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Is that a rhetorical question ? Because there's nothing to report, maybe ?

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You seem to of completely misused the phrase "rhetorical question"

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21 Jan 2013 14:27:09
Ed what ever happened to that guy pretending to be a player who was going to sign for us?? {Ed025's Note - people in white coats took him away

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21 Jan 2013 13:13:09
Everton will sign no decent players for any real money in this window, we pulled it off once with Colman. I fear big bad bill is going to keep his wallet firmly closed once again. to be honest can we improve on much anyway, look where we are with we we have got.

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Fingers crossed - but just a couple of injuries away from it all falling apart

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Stay positive, have faith in moyes

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I'm still confident in us getting a loan!

King Chong

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Coyb still think something will happen this transfer window

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21 Jan 2013 13:06:50
Donovan would have been a godsend this season - reckon we'd have had about 6 points more in the bag by now - come on donovan, we need you big time!

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We should have at least 9 more points without him anyway

Andy

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21 Jan 2013 12:14:45
Looks like the reality is we may get a young lad in for a small fee and possibly a loan. We just don't have the money to compete for big players and I don't think the board are willing to take a risk by the sounds of things. Could see us losing felli and baines in summer too which highlights the need to keep moyes as we need the money reinvested wisely. I don't like the thought of it but its a lot closer to the truth than these people posting rumours on m'villa and capoue! Please feel free to come and mock me if we spend big this window and keep those two in the summer, I will be happy to take abuse! Whatever happens get behind the side! Efc is a way of life!
Sheffield blue

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21 Jan 2013 10:14:51
Hi fellow blues how cheecky is it tv showing the tittle odds on sky arsenal 300 to 1 redrubbish 400 to 1 and oh surprise everton are o know they forgot to put us on there again we know where not going to win the league not like them dreamers across the park but would be nice to get the respect we deserve coyb and jft96

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That is typical mate. However we our always over looked and that is when we produce our best, so lets stick it to them.

Micky blue eyes

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I was thinking exactly the same thing Micky
Our best work comes when we are overlooked
So I'm happy when our efforts are not recognised and then just watch us go.

COYB
Toffee ace

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Were always over looked mate, but that's how we like it, watching the football on sky over the weekend one of the pundits said Arsenal have real fight on for 4th with Spurs and Liverpool. Errrmmmm we have been ahead of them teams all season! but as I said that's how we like it

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21 Jan 2013 09:34:52
The Vadis Odjidja deal reminds me of the Danjiel Pranjic deal last year all sorted but the deadline prevented it.
Dan1.

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Difference is, Bayern blocked the move whilst Club Brugge just thought they'd have a cup of tea and a slice of cake before doing the paperwork.

Keith EFC.

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21 Jan 2013 08:38:39
Ed is DFS shut today mate as me and the misses were going to look at a new couch after work, you being in the know and that with your job

Degsy {Ed025's Note - i have packed the couch testing in degs, too hard for me mate..

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21 Jan 2013 08:24:56
10 days left to sign somebody.. will we sign anyone? heck yeah! moyes will pull something out of his sleeve, whether it be a loan or buy a player, he will make the right decision.

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21 Jan 2013 08:12:12
This transfer window has been so boring last year we were linked with so many players and were actually doing business now I am starting to wonder if we will do any deals at all

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Well we only signed Gibson and Donavon, then the last 2 come on the deadline day, if moyes doesn't think a certain player will improve us then he won't go for him, and i'm fine with that, he has always waited and got us some very decent players so if we have to wait until deadline day again then so be it, imwt coyb

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21 Jan 2013 02:30:26
sorry just a wee question no a rumour what do use think of steven naismith I think he's shocking ed what you think? {Ed025's Note - he works very hard for the team, but i dont think we have seen the best of him yet, being played out of position has not helped either, i still think he will come good though..

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21 Jan 2013 00:22:13
Oh I see that person pretending to be a football agent is back on twitter spreading rubbish about us getting donovan
Andy

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22 Jan 2013 01:19:41
You always find that when we have posted that we would love to get a certain player that some nob pretending to be an agent says we are getting them, anyone can pretend to be an agent on twitter. twitter is the most bull**** website in the world, even worse than FB.

Believe it when Moyes parades the guy at Goodison

Degsy

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20 Jan 2013 23:27:58
I would think that this would be a very successful window:

Ins:

Ofoe - Loan with view to permanent
Hooper - £4.5m + Vellios on loan
Alderweireld - Swap with Heitinga

Outs:

Heitinga - Swap with Alderweireld
Anichebe - £4m
Vellios - Loan to Celtic

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