Everton Banter Archive May 20 2018

20 May 2018 20:27:57
If the rumours on Marco Silva being hired are true, I state here and now it will be yet another leap in the dark mistake. I predict that come Xmas time his head will be called for. Far to like Martinez. Because of some of the vitriol I have to state yet again, this is an opinion and not a personal attack.

{Ed025's Note - there will always be pluses and minus,s when hiring a new manager DFS it goes with the territory, not everyone will be happy whoever we appoint but we must get behind whoever it may be and with the influence of brands back them all the way, we cant go on replacing managers every season and need some stability within the club if we are to move forward imo mate..

20 May 2018 21:57:23
For what it’s worth, I was not in the Koeman camp even before he came, was again not in Sams camp, however I think Silva will be a good choice, should he come.

Only time will tell but I am in the Silva camp and hope we manage to get the guy.

20 May 2018 21:57:28
Well if he finishes 5th in his 1st season I'll be chuffed DFS.
Just about everyone linked with us will be a risk. We've just got to get on board and enjoy the ride.

20 May 2018 22:18:00
I'd be happy with Silva. Apparently he is very meticulous with his set up and analysis of the opponent he is facing. He is an attacking, passing football based coach but also a good disciplinarian in defense. His record at Watford was very good til his head was turned by our interest which would normally worry me, but it would be Brands job to keep that from happening, which I believe he could do and keep Silva concentrated on the Everton project of building us into the team we all want to be cheering for. A team competing for honours.

20 May 2018 23:03:08
Negativity was fair when we're watchin 'Allerdyces' version of Everton.
But Silva hasn't even been announced yet, give him a chance. I'll be right behind him and I suggest every other blue is otherwise he's fighting a losing battle before he's started.

21 May 2018 01:18:31
There’s a lot of negativity surrounding the possible Silva appointment. I just hope, that should he become manager, we give him a chance. I gave chippy a chance, but he ended up being appalling. I hope we don’t hear boos at half time when we aren’t winning our first game 3-0.

21 May 2018 02:56:39
Enough now DFS. You've made your views on Silva perfectly clear several times now.

How we expect to attract any manager when all we do is slag anybody off associated with the position is beyond me.

Can we all just wait until a decision is made (hopefully by people with more information / knowledge than us) and then get behind them 100 %.

21 May 2018 06:14:06
It's easy to predict accurately that the guy will be or under pressure by Christmas if you're doing it already before he's even been appointed! Silva is not like Martinez; he cares about defensive discipline. He's a very good coach. He's managed 5 clubs and every one of them, including Hull and Watford, were higher up the table when he left than when he took over. So Hull were relegated? So were Newcastle under Benitez. Good managers who take jobs with poor teams are going to have low win percentages and they won't win trophies. The issue with Silva isn't whether he will improve us; it's that he doesn't stay anywhere for very long. Get behind him - IF he's even appointed!

21 May 2018 11:19:24
I'm not for Silva but if he is appointed I'll give him my whole support like I do for every manager that comes. Regardless whether I like him to come or not. Every manager that comes deserves a proper chance. Innocent till proven guilty and all that.

Totally agree with Ed025. We need stability and a manager that will get a run of seasons together. Silva just might be the one to do that. Regardless of his history with not staying long with other clubs.

21 May 2018 12:24:19
expecting a lot their smit, if he even finished seventh but cemented it like we did under koeman for his first year I'd take that.

20 May 2018 19:09:45
While BK (and JW) stay on the board, is there a lack of unity with the other directors (and with the major shareholder) at Everton?
Whatever personal animosity you have towards BK/ JW, do you have a rational reason for them to lose their influence at Everton?
Personally, I think the composition of the board must be addressed so that there's a unity of direction and a clarity of purpose AND that imho requires a clear controlling ownership.

20 May 2018 18:52:16
It's okay to disagree with my thoughts or opinions, That doesn't give you the right to deny any sense they might make, Nor does it give you a right to accuse someone of poorly expressing their beliefs just because you don't like what they are saying. Learn to recognize different opinions when you read it, even if it means overcoming your pride and opening your mind beyond what is comfortable.

20 May 2018 19:55:03
I will if you take your own advice, Stig. I just don't see the logic in attacking BK like some do. I remember the PJ saga as it played out so, despite your refusal to admit it, BK saved us from the inevitable plummet that we were heading for. He has given us a new man to lead us forwards and will soon step down, why keep beating the 'I hate BK drum'?
If there has been some posters that have had a personal dig at you then that is below the belt but your original post was always going to bring about an adverse reaction. Can't really moan if you was wound up by the very people you was trying to wind up!

20 May 2018 20:57:06
i don't think anyone was personal everyone just stated in there opinion your wrong. that's just our opinion but as i stated our opinions don't count if they don't follow certain agendas.

20 May 2018 21:56:46
I can understand the feelings from stig. It can feel personal when people swarm in to dismantle your opinions and while nobody was personal they are strong opinions. Plus I personally think the anti Kenwright thing has been an unnecessary toxic vent and an u just one.

I was personally disagreeing to the views in general and not just you. This is how things come across sometimes mate on certain issues and we all do it especially on something that is left or right like this. Try not to tale it personally mate its the anti-BK movement people are opposing not just your individual beliefs. But like I said I can feel sensitive when various people chop down something I am saying but it will happen.

20 May 2018 23:29:49
I’d like to apologise to you Stig if my comment came across as belittling/ degrading yours. I’ve read it again and believe it could have been written with more thought.

The point I intended to make was: where does slating Bill get any of us? It feels, to me, like you have a personal grudge against him. If he has wronged you in some way then I hope you will be able to eventually move on and focus on some of the interesting stuff you have discussed in the past.

To many posters (and readers who don’t post) , Bill is seen as a integral part to our existence in the Premier League. I agree it is time for him to move on but the anti-Bill sentiment doesn’t seem necessary; especially when it feels like you’re attacking the guy.

Stating Everton was saved from Bill is a little far fetched in my eyes. If we had ended up like Leeds, Blackburn, Portsmouth or Sunderland then I could emphasise with your point but sadly, I can’t at present.

Maybe this is a classic case of needing to agree to disagree on the matter.

21 May 2018 02:51:42
The simple fact is Stig is that Kenwright will be remembered favourably in Everton history, you and KEIOC will not even be remembered.


It was you that wanted to rake up old coals. Seems like they were too hot for you.

21 May 2018 11:23:44
Hey stig. I've known you on here for a long time now and always enjoyed your posts. Especially last season on the match day banter during the games. You are a great laugh.

I don't agree with your views on BK but I still respect them. They are your views and yours to own. I believe you should be free to air them and also believe you don't deserve any stick for them. Even though I don't agree with them.

Its obvious to me you are a genuine Everton supporter and want what is best for the club. Just thought I'd show you some support stig on here stig. Sometimes the vigilantly can get out of hand on here.

20 May 2018 09:23:38
Usmanov story not going away. If true then massive changes are afoot and this brilliant Everton Club looks set to return to the apex of English football, bringing the glory days this Club deserves.

20 May 2018 11:29:11
Usmanov coming in would be a step in the right direction but it doesn’t guarantee we’ll “return to the apex of English football”. There are still massive changes that need to happen at this club from the top down, and it will take a while for this to be done effectively.

20 May 2018 14:09:19
I agree, Bitterblue, him coming in, if reports are actually true, wouldn't mean instant success. It would, however, mean we can be competitive with the top tier of premier clubs which, in turn, should see us really attack the teams that currently dominate the top four places. What's better than having one billionaire running the club? Two billionaires!
Joking aside, we shouldn't get too fixated on th AU rumours until there is some substance to them.

20 May 2018 14:53:13
It would put us in the financial elite that’s for sure being able to compete with anyone.

20 May 2018 17:31:07
In the first instance it would remove any doubts around the BMD Stadium deal. We'd be more competitive commercially all it would need would be for the footballing side to catch up.

19 May 2018 11:31:50
It is often incorrectly said that 'Kenwright saved us from Johnson'. What is definitely true is that KEIOC saved Everton from Kenwright. We highlighted the lies put the pressure on in the public inquiry to stop it happening. We saved Everton from Kenwright.

{Ed025's Note - the thing is stig is that people like yourself and the BU (bullies unlimited) are trying to save people who dont want to be saved, they are extremists who try to force their ideals on fans to fulfill their own agenda, i honestly cant see what bill kenwright has done thats so wrong, for me he has been the rock that the club needed when it was in big trouble and i for 1 am very grateful for all that this good man has brought to this great club,but i dont intend to try and convince others to think the same way as me as thats down to personal choice mate..

20 May 2018 07:42:18
Ed is right Stig. You are coming across like a troll.

Don't know what you have against the man; he is as much a supporter as you but has invested far more money and time into the club.

If it turns out you have sunken millions into the club and most of your life than I take it all back. Otherwise, it may be time to give him credit where credit is due.

20 May 2018 08:09:49
oh stig get a grip kid, the man has done everything in his power to better everton, has he made mistakes along the way? probably but every decision he has made he has had evertons best interests at heart never personal gain. people like the blue union and keioc are an embarrassment to the club with there bile and hatred of a man who bleeds blue and would die for the club. that's my opinion but u won't agree as anyone whos opinion doesn't match the BU or KEIOC agenda isn't valid is it mate yous no best.

20 May 2018 09:26:20
Bill has been our Savior over the years and to cap it off he finds Mr Moshiri and we all know what a Gem he is, I would hope that when our new stadium is built Bill will at least get a stand named after him, he. Certainly deserves that, I would like to say a massive thank you to him for all he has done for Everton and if he goes wish him well.

20 May 2018 09:32:35
More realistically Mr Kenwright has this Club in his soul so much so that recently (last few years) an otherwise astute business man actually let his heart rule his head. To be honest we the fans are partly responsible for that. We have become impatient and some to be fair downright obnoxious, rather like the kid who takes his ball home. My take on Mr Kenwright is that we owe him a huge debt for his contribution (and yes he did save us from Johnson) , we should say thankyou very much and ask him to gracefully retire to an Everton Honourary non-executive position and enjoy the ride that seems to be coming with the new partnership of Moshri/ Usmanov/ Brands.

20 May 2018 09:48:14
The writing is on the wall Stig. Read all the comments. Either we are all wrong in our judgement of the guy or perhaps you are? I heard some stories in the past from Kenwright haters who were just so off the mark. Blue Bill would have chosen an easier less hassle way of "making a few bob" than running EFC. He devotes his life to us in the same way any other Evertonian understands. Speak to the guy about games he has been to. Can you honestly think that as a businessman he could talk with the same passion as fellow Evertonians? Can you imagine the chairman of any other organisation not putting his foot in his mouth trying toconvince us Evertonians (probably the most sceptical bunch of supporters around) . Mate as the other posts suggest. you have misjudged the situation. He is as Evertonian as you. if not more so!

20 May 2018 10:06:09
My take is that Everton have a lot to thank Bill Kenwright for. He is a true Evertonian who has put the club first every time. Sure, with 50/ 50 hindsight vision he might have made a few mistakes along the way but without him we might have been another Sunderland, Birmingham or Notts Forest.

Stop just seeing what you think is the bad and look at where we are and what we could have been. He doesn't deserve all the bad mouthing.

20 May 2018 10:36:16
We are lucky to have had OUR chairman. The club jas been in extremely difficult positions yet we have always managed to pull through. We have endured a painful season bit this is footbal and we are in great position looking at the greater picture. Kenright has steered us through. I think the compleely negative views on Kenright is a little bit of a disgrace to be honest :/.

20 May 2018 12:08:47
Bill Kenwright has done everything in his power since the Johnson era to bring stability to our club and to find the right man to take over. It's taken time yo achieve that which has sometimes led to frustration for some supporters, but he stuck to his guns and now it appears to be paying off. He could have sold his shares many times over but it never felt the right thing for Everton. That says it all ss far as I'm concerned.

20 May 2018 13:27:18
I don't thank Bill for anything he has done. It's not enough.

I wonder how many on here would sacrifice their home, business and health the way he has for our club. We can't question anything he has done because we have absolutely no idea the choices or options he made or had.

What evidence we do have is we are still in the EPL when others had more money to spend and fell. He then got us the right man to take over.

To think he has a motive other than what's best for the club is pure paranoia.

He's too loyal sometimes for my liking especially with Moyes. Plus he's too emotional as well at times when an iron fist is needed. However, the way our club has developed a true blue beating heart is all downto him and the people he brought in.

As for BU and KEIOC. They spoke for the minority and played on the misinformed. Then add the underhand tactics used means they get little respect from me.

It's time now though for Bill to get back just enjoying Everton again. He might start getting some slack and eventually respect from all.

20 May 2018 16:29:42
Totally agree with ed25 and the other posts here. Stig, you need to move away from the cult-like groups mentioned, they do not represent me as an Evertonian, they are a group of misguided fools who seem intent on destroying our club despite proclaiming that they have its best interests at heart.

Believe me, if BK had not managed to oust PJ 20+ years ago then we would have fallen out of the premier league well before now. He could have given you your wish and sold up years ago when groups like that who purchased Blackburn were sniffing around. Is that what you and them groups wanted? The likes of the Venkies haven't done much good for that particular club have they? And, if reports are to be believed, they wanted to buy us before settling on Rovers.

Bill might have his faults, like the rest of us he is only human, but he has steered the Goodison ship and kept it on course for the premier league for many, many years. In the very least you and those who criticise, for the sake of criticising, should acknowledge that BK has brought in a man to take over that will give the club a chance to thrive. You lot sound like ungrateful, spoilt kids but you can't change history. Bill Kenwright saved this club from the depths of lower league football. It's about time that you anti BK brigade realise as much.

20 May 2018 16:55:42
I think stig is just a secret red looking to cause arguements in here.

{Ed025's Note - no mate hes deffo a blue, hes a long time poster who i agree with most of the time....but not on this one..

20 May 2018 18:29:58
anomblue2 he's definitely a blue he's always on here just let himself down with this post he's usually a top poster who speaks sense but on this one am sorry he is way off the mark.

20 May 2018 18:44:06
Remember lads we all have our own Opinion?

Opinions are not only important in igniting change, but also they help in defining the kind of person you are. Having an opinion shows passion, determination, and knowledge. It shows that you are capable of taking a stand and you are willing to defend something you believe in.

21 May 2018 12:41:34
bill has been great for us, sure we havnt been where we would love to be, but as said above look where we could have been, he's took his time and invested a good part of his life trying to get us as high as possible and slowly looking like he's stepping away t make room for mr moshiri who he found and has confidence in that he can take us forward, deserves plaudits not posts like this.

20 May 2018 05:51:53
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 20th May 2018

20 May 2018 00:49:17
Sams Holidays

Its now being stated that Sam missed training following an away defeat to go on a break to his home in Spain leaving Sammy Lee to deliver a Pep (not Guardiola) Talk .

By my estimates that means he needs to refund Everton £175000, three shillings and sixpence .

20 May 2018 17:30:36
If I was an ex player in the media, I'd probably give a crappy answer too.
Why would you answer honestly? You'd then have to have the hassle of bumping into the guy soon enough.

I do find it funnybthay some fans hang on everyone's words and go ballistic.