Everton Banter Archive September 01 2016

01 Sep 2016 22:47:01
Niasse given a squad number wouldn't it be funny if he had a couple of games then started banging in the goals.

01 Sep 2016 20:44:21
Well I made 35quid because Mata stayed at man u. Decent transfer window me thinks.

01 Sep 2016 20:11:45
Hi all, after reading we withdrew from sissoko regarding J. Mc being family does this apply to every player? In every transfer window? The exception being those who wish to leave ( stones ) ? I find this an absolute awful excuse from a club who have for the past few years have had a squad so capable of achieving so much more but failed at the final hurdle. The obvious answer = the club has some major flaws from top to bottom if any Evertonian hasn't seen this I question your sanity! We have a NEW BUSINESS MAN at the helm who has been involved in football for years. I 1 million percent do not believe our NEW BUSINESS MAN INVESTOR is texting that prat from SSN directly. Think of the deals he has made over the years outside of football I'm sure he doesn't text all his mates before the deal is agreed. We as Evertonians shall have to wait patiently as every week goes by flaws are being addressed within our club. No team is a success the club as a whole will be a success. Enjoy the ride do not be hung up on media bullshit to sell papers, Internet hits. We will deliver. It will take time. With every passing day our NEW BUSINESS MAN INVESTOR is learning flaws within our club an will not simply sit back an let it continue. Get behind the boys an trust like I do that our fantastic club will once again be on the way back to glory! NIL SATIS NISI OPTIMUM.

02 sep 2016 08:21:28
why did new business man investor need to be in capitals?

01 Sep 2016 19:03:50
Time to move on from DDay.

I'm glad Lukaku has been left out of the national squad. Might be the reality check he needs to start scoring some goals again!

01 Sep 2016 21:17:15
I thought he was in the national squad Aches?

01 Sep 2016 22:31:14
He was. Early signs are Martinez should of took all those millions to go to China.

You'd never know he might turn things around. Cyprus next, surely they'll win that one.

01 Sep 2016 17:48:25
I am currently Everton manager on football manager with 7 premier league titles and 4 champions leagues so I'm going to tell the Everton board how to run this club get a grip idiot! That was a conversation I listened to last night. if all you wannabe managers think it's so easy to run the club and buy players give it a go. Oh ye that's right you only watch football and let's be honest not got millions-billions in the bank so they only shouting I want to here is support for them players that put our shirt on each week.

01 Sep 2016 19:24:20
You are joking mate aren't you? Someone actually said that? Chuckle chuckle. Well I was on football manager and I bought Messi and Ronaldo and for some reason we went bankrupt? Must be a problem with the game!

01 Sep 2016 19:53:15
Well I actually made Everton the most successful english team ever with 32 league titles and most successful team in Europe with 13 champions league and had a stadium named after me. Maybe I should get on the phone to farhad. 🤔🙄.

01 Sep 2016 19:54:03
No mate no joke was in Starbucks by showcase and these 2 idiots was comparing their teams against the real Everton side while on Twitter nearly threw my expensive coffee at them but the thought of the price stopped me. My wife asked me what was up as I had to tell her that some of our fellow blues where idiots I never thought I would say that.

01 Sep 2016 17:45:10
We have now got a stronger 1st 14 players but a smaller squad so it's easy get no injured and we will be ok
7th at best this year which is an improvement on 11th at least😜.

01 Sep 2016 15:51:49
Ok not going to lie was a bit disappointed we never did any real business yesterday but then I thought about it if you look at our squad as of today it should be able to keep us in or around the top 6/ 7. Defensively a hell of a lot stronger our middle 2 has shown signs of understanding of each other attacking midfielders we have a lot of options there just need to find the right balance for me the only problem is striker if lukaku gets injured it will be a big ask for the others. I would of liked a goalkeeper but if one is available in January think we can get by till then. What I would ask all Everton fans is remember yes we have got money but that's all we got at the minute we need Some sort of European football to get the really big players to join. I would imagine as I say if the currant squad is around 6/ 7 as of January more players might see us us as a top side.

{Ed002's Note - Clubs rarely plan to buy in January and certainly not goalkeepers.}

01 Sep 2016 16:09:08
I know that's the trouble. I'm not to bothered about the goalkeeper situation would like a striker.

01 Sep 2016 16:29:32
Transfer Window Fume


Whilst personally I am as disappointed as most people that we didn’t manage to achieve our chosen targets and am annoyed with the way the window panned out, I do feel we need to have some perspective on this issue because of all the moans and ridiculous accusations being thrown around.

So here goes: We had an agreement with Zenit for Witsel but for whatever reason Witsel turned us down because he preferred to move to Juventus. This was the players’ decision (and he got his comeuppance on the last day when Zenit pulled the plug on his move to Juve. ) . NOT OUR FAULT!

Ghezzal: we had an agreement with his club also and made him an offer their Chairman said was almost twenty times his current deal. Yet the player turned us down because he wanted to play in Europe. All credit to the player for putting football reasons before person greed, very rare in today’s market. NOT OUR FAULT!

Perez: Again we had agreement with Deportivo and the player and it looked like completing. Yet Arsenal who said they were not interested in the player a week before, suddenly matched our offer. The player then decided to choose Arsenal because he wanted European Football. NOT OUR FAULT!

Gabbiadini: This deal was always dependent upon Napoli finding a replacement and according to his Agent Napoli really didn’t want to sell him. Hence they deliberately procrastinated throughout. NOT OUR FAULT!

Brahimi: This is a crazy one because of what happened. Initially we had a deal with the Club agreed and Terms with the player agreed. Porto suddenly decided to move the goal posts at the eleventh hour and increased the price. So we met that new asking price and agreed a new fee of 42m Euros. Yet again as the deal was about to be concluded they pulled out and said the price was now 50m Euros. Checking Portuguese Media I found that this was something Porto had done before, so it was not a surprise to the media. I also discovered that many African players have multi-owners and this also complicates such deals; in this case a Sports Company who had part ownership pulled the deal and asked for more money. They deny this however. NOT OUR FAULT!

Sissoko: This is very disturbing one for me because it seems clear that he and his Agent used Everton to secure a deal to Spurs. We had everything agreed with Newcastle and the player, even had a Private Jet on the runway waiting for him to bring him in for a medical. He didn’t show up and Koeman couldn’t get hold of him on the phone because he had turned it off. If people knew a little more about how Agents (the money men) work then these types of shenanigans will come as no surprise. Personally, I believe Sissoko’s attitude throughout this has shown that we have dodged a bullet and he is not the type of player with the right attitude for our great Club. His reason, he wanted European football. NOT OUR FAULT!

Does knowing all this make me less disappointed? NO, it doesn’t. But, it does allow me to apportion the blame squarely where it needs to be; with Martinez for destroying our reputation. If Kenwright had sacked him at Christmas last season instead of allowing him to make the situation worse we may have been able to salvage something from the season and therefore have been in a better position today to attract the kind of talent we required and wanted.

So I say to all the people fuming and blaming the Board and whoever else at the Club, please reflect somewhat and recognise the type of players we have been targeting, the likes of which we would never have targeted before. We showed our ambition but have sadly been let down by past failures. We will recover from this and learn valuable lessons. What we need to do now is pull together and ensure that we are in a good position fighting for Europe come January and then we may be able to strengthen the squad with the quality players we need and deserve!

Finally, Enner Valencia: When he signed for West Ham in 2014 he took the PL by storm. He was fast and scored some great goals and was entertaining and was an exciting player. Until he was badly injured that is. So let us give this lad a chance because he may prove to be an astute signing! He cannot be any worse than Kone or Niasse can he?

That’s it, my thoughts….

{Ed025's Note - one of the best posts i have read on here stevie, i just hope the moaners can read and understand the complications with modern day transfers which you have pointed out so clearly...respect mate..

01 Sep 2016 17:32:58
Absolutely brilliant post steviegee. Thing is some moany moany sod will come on here later on and will not bother to read yours or anyone else's post and start complaining about how badly run our club is. Giving out about our 'lack' of transfer activity.

Its very annoying the amount of them posts that are put in.

02 Sep 2016 07:59:40
Fantastic post that Stevie.
I'd also add that, to be fair to Kenwright re not getting rid of Martinez sooner, when you think how much work must have gone in to the Moshiri deal; it was only finalised end of Feb. I think he had enough on his plate in the first half of the season and bringing in Moshiri and Koeman wipes out the procrastination imho.

01 Sep 2016 15:31:13
To all you that say that we should not moan that we never bought a big name player and that we are obsessed with spending a 100 million and that we didn't need to spend big because we have done well in buying who we have and are squad is stronger no one is saying spend it all just for the sake of it and I bet you would all have been made up I'd we bought a top notch player for around 50 million and said that's just what we needed I think you are all making excuses for us not attracting any big names nothing to do with champions league other clubs down the years have attracted big players without champions league football.

01 Sep 2016 16:21:13
So Skylark how many top 50 million mark players was available that would improve our squad?

We can't go tapping up players who are perfectly happy where they are. In the grand scheme of things there are or were very few players available to strengthen our team/ squad. Any that are available we have to then compete with everyone else for them.

It is then not easy to secure these type if players as there availability is very few and far between. How many players moved into the premiership yesterday for over 20million?

Gives you an idea on how limited we are to go out and get the players to improve us. It is an awful lot harder said than done.

{Ed025's Note - very true NBTB..

01 Sep 2016 16:21:52
My bad : an awful lot EASIER said than done.

01 Sep 2016 17:12:28
we all would love £50-£60m players but we not that big a deal as of yet. I would also like to tell blues to look at Malaga they was taken over in 2010 signed a lot of top stars they had debts and they was kicked out of Europe they had to sell all their star players and now are a middle of the table side. So splashing cash to make us fans happy while would be great I don't want to run that risk just to say yay we spent ££££ on this player. Chelsea thought they done well getting Torres for £50m he never looked like a £50m player to most.

01 Sep 2016 14:51:33
Definitely not going to rule him out until we see him first hand, but I've done what I always do when we sign a player which is ask the fans of his old team their opinion, and I've got to say the feedback about Valencia hasn't been good.

He's not the only person I've heard from, but a direct quote from a guy on the West Ham rumours is:

"The guy has all the attributes to be a good player, but he has been awful. everytime he has the ball its lost, from controlling the ball or stumbling who knows. whether he is low on confidence or its something else. every west ham fan could not wait for him to go. we could not understand why he is still getting picked to play. you never know a fresh start could do him good. but me for one so happy I don't have to watch him lose the ball anymore. "

As I said, I'm not going to rule him out and perhaps a change of scenery and management is what he needs, but I would say he's certainly not the caliber of player I was hoping for.

01 Sep 2016 16:25:24
Same said for Gana, Hardy and Mahrez. All recruited by who? O yea, our director of football! Think the people at Everton are the right people making them type of decisions. Not me or you Ander Barkley. I'm all for people having their own opinions and expressing them but have some faith in our club. Just a little even would be good.

{Ed025's Note - some of our posters think its fifa 16 NBTB, the real world knows how hard it is to secure any player of quality, all you can do is offer the best deals you can and hope they are willing to come which i believe we did, the lure of london and CL football will always come first im afraid mate..

01 Sep 2016 18:47:02
That's not true. I spoke to Villa fans after we signed Gana and every one said he was quality, I spoke to Leicester fans when they where promoted and while obviously no one foresaw just how good they would be, They all knew they where both good players. This is a player who's own fans say he is terrible.

I've said this before, these people in charge may well be there for a reason, but this perception that everything they do must be 100% the best decision is absurd. You're forgetting that someone who was deemed the right man for the job said we should buy Niasse, Kone, McGeady, Bilyaletdinov and Kroldrup.

01 Sep 2016 20:30:00
Ander I'm not getting into an argument over who's a good player and who's not. The point is them players were way undervalued and way underrated at the time they were signed. In hindsight we all know they are top class. Walsh knew that before anyone. Hence why he got them so cheap.

Never said he is right 100% of the time. He certainly knows more about what players to recruit than anyone I know. That's the point. He's the man with the experience and know how. That's all I'm saying. I have every faith in him.

If you don't fair enough. Hate when people write a player off before he has even kicked a ball for us. I'm more inclined to reserve judgement until the chap gets a proper chance. In my books that's the least a player should get.

If he turns out to be sh*te I still don't agree with the abuse some players get. At least its excusable when he's given a chance rather than barely being a new player for 24 hours.

01 Sep 2016 20:34:08
OK Ander your last paragraph says you won't write him off. That's what I like to hear. You also say he's not the calibre of player you expected.

That takes me back to the same point of giving him a chance and the signings Walsh made of Vardy, Mahrez, Kante and Gueye. They weren't considered a high 'calbre'. Look how they turned out. The players have to start somewhere and Vardy shows it can happen at anytime in a players career.

Not having a go Ander just banter really.

01 Sep 2016 20:30:00
Ander I'm not getting into an argument over who's a good player and who's not. The point is them players were way undervalued and way underrated at the time they were signed. In hindsight we all know they are top class. Walsh knew that before anyone. Hence why he got them so cheap.

Never said he is right 100% of the time. He certainly knows more about what players to recruit than anyone I know. That's the point. He's the man with the experience and know how. That's all I'm saying. I have every faith in him.

If you don't fair enough. Hate when people write a player off before he has even kicked a ball for us. I'm more inclined to reserve judgement until the chap gets a proper chance. In my books that's the least a player should get.

If he turns out to be sh*te I still don't agree with the abuse some players get. At least its excusable when he's given a chance rather than barely being a new player for 24 hours.

01 Sep 2016 20:34:08
OK Ander your last paragraph says you won't write him off. That's what I like to hear. You also say he's not the calibre of player you expected.

That takes me back to the same point of giving him a chance and the signings Walsh made of Vardy, Mahrez, Kante and Gueye. They weren't considered a high 'calbre'. Look how they turned out. The players have to start somewhere and Vardy shows it can happen at anytime in a players career.

Not having a go Ander just banter really.

01 Sep 2016 14:27:39
I hope Sissoko does well at the spuds, if not he'll be hated, having spent all summer talking about how beautiful Arsenal are and, how much he wanted to join them.
Imagine him saying that about Liverpool and then joining us and having 1 good game in 5.
We may or may not have just dodged a bullet.

01 Sep 2016 12:58:35
Bit of a disappointing last day but overall really happy with EFC transfers. Moshiri Koeman and Walsh at the top. And four first team signing = a good window Liverpool fans writing more about us than themselves hahaha.

01 Sep 2016 12:10:18
Firstly, I would like to say I'm glad we didn't get Sissoko. The way he disrespected Everton and a legend of the game Ronald Koeman, shows exactly what a toss bag he is! Secondly the signings we already have in Stek, Gaye, Bolaisie and Williams have been shrewd and brilliant. Thirdly, players like Baines, Mirrallas and Delboy their attitudes have changed for the better. Fourthly, young players like Davies and Holgate are like new recruits anyway. Fifthly Martinez is gone and we have Koeman! If you follow and love Everton, Rome wasn't built in a day and neither will Everton. But I feel the club is going in the right direction and that's all we want.

01 Sep 2016 13:40:33
I always thought Roberto looked well dressed and dapper in his brown shoes. But spot on with your analysis. Sometimes the best deals are the ones you don't make. Save the bundle for January for strategic purposes.

I sincerely think we have the squad to push for the top 6. Against Stoke, Rom is getting closer. Glad we did not get Super Mario.

{Ed002's Note - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkPNw2h8ohw

01 Sep 2016 15:13:46
nice tunes edd002.

01 Sep 2016 11:57:11
To be honest I am a bit disappointed in last night I don't know if I'm reading things wrong but I did expect a bit more quality to come in as a statement of intent. i also understand we don't have cl football and were we finished but I've had years of listening to shite and it all turning out exactly how it did yesterday Alan smith, moutinho, riquelme and many more who didn't come off. It may be a coincidence that we started spending money when stones went but after finishing the window 1 million in profit I'm starting to wonder. Same with the stadium all talk till it happens it's not all doom and gloom I think we have a great set up now with Koeman in charge he's a class act and we have started really well and I am excited of the future but I'm a blue a real blue who has been let down that many times that I just can't believe till I see 27 years of let downs so don't give me grief for my opinion.

01 Sep 2016 11:50:06
Fed up ov people moaning!
When did Everton actually come out and say we will spend 100M?
Yes we all wanted a big name but big names don't always fit and I think we have added players that have fitted in our team good, doesn't matter that guaye only cost 7 mill he is absolutely world class and will be the difference this year and Valencia was class before he came to west ham an if he produces that form he's a bargain if he doesn't then we give him back.

01 Sep 2016 12:22:50
Agreed valencia is a goal poacher and if he gets the service in around the box he will score goals west ham played him outwide at times if memory serves me rite. koeman is no fool he will get the best outta him how many times have we cried out for some1 to get in the box and get on the end of crosses.

01 Sep 2016 11:43:33
according to sky we've made 1.9 mill profit in this transfer window if we get new stadium then ill be happy with the transfer business we have done COYB.

01 Sep 2016 10:55:37
Glad we did our bisness before dday antonio will had firepower up front glad we didn't get sissiko lazy player not what we want i'm sure rk and sw will be getting there targets ready for january window we've had a good start too the season if we can keep this going and push for top 4 by january then players will see we are going places and will want to be part of it yarmlalenko would have been a good signin but its a no for now so let's move on
Coybs.

01 Sep 2016 10:32:44
Hi Ed and fellow Blues I too have been reading some of the negative posts on here, I just cannot understand some of them I have to say I am so pleased Bill was handling some of the transfers we have had in this Windows no panic buys just good players who are going to vastly improve our team which is already happening under RK and also the new doc and stadium coming and last but not least our new owner Mr Moshiri this is going to be one hell of a ride let's just enjoy and stop all the moaning after all we could have ended up whith Sissoko, so more money to spend won once RK has fully assessed everyone in Jan, Guernsey
blue.

01 Sep 2016 10:01:15
First off, I just want to clearly state that I am absolutely delighted at the progress the club has made over the last 6 months. actually, 3 months. Cast your mind back to how we all felt after the semi-final and the uncertainty as to whether Bobby was going to be given another season.
I think we've had a successful summer for signings, and it's very easy to forget that Lukaku was odds on to be sold, however I think the last week (yesterday particularly) have been a big learning curve for Moshiri, Walsh etc.
I think we've been trying to sign some real quality for the first time in a long while and have been very frustrated. I think we got it wrong and I have to say I'm disappointed we didn't add Bony or Benteke for another option up top and fear a lack of goals and to a lesser extent disappointed about Joe Hart although I think we were probably only able to get him for stupid money.
However, echoing what people have already posted, best signing is Koeman and his team. The changes already implemented have been immense and as I think Degsy said, quality players have already slotted in to starting 11. Some saying we've been lied to, where's the 100 million etc is just crazy. This isn't football manager.
I just think a quality striker would have made Europe qualification a lot more manageable, everyone was aware of that, and we've missed all targets. Unless I'm wrong and this loan from West Ham pays off.
I wonder what everyone's thoughts on Lukaku are? In reference to the 'at least one more year' assuming we don't finish 4th, If he has a great season will it be the same again next year? In which case we will probably need 3 forwards?

01 Sep 2016 08:44:41
Some fans are never happy.

I see a lot of posts moaning about us not doing well in the transfer market. We have actually done better than we have for many a year, the only thing that makes it look bad is our own fans.

Some of you still have this obsession about us having £100 million to spend and that we should be a CL side this season. Moshri, RK, BK, have NEVER I repeat NEVER said we have that much to spend, None of those have ever said we will get into Europe this season, they say it would be nice but doubt we will.

Some of you harp on about us not spending enough and we should of spent a lot more, who should we of spent more on? we have spent more in this window than we have ever done before yet some of you are still unhappy.

Those in charge have always said this is the start of a massive project, and for that we should be 100% supportive, not moaning that we did not blow £100 million on the wrong type of player.

What this window has shown is that a lot of you moaners would rather believe the garbage the press make up rather than those in charge, SHAME ON YOU. The club itself seems to be moving on, Just a shame some of our so called supporters can't.

01 Sep 2016 09:07:33
Grumpy toffee take your head for a wobble, how this the best window we had? Signing Barry lukaku an McCarthy was a much better window than this, Jeff said on ssn moshiri had message him saying Everton so yea we did expect more an who can blame us we was bought out by a billionaire, moshiri has in fact spend none of his own money on player, we are also not as strong as we was because we ain't got any depth in the squad, yes we got kids an 1/ 2 will be good fingers crossed but the chance of 4/ 5 kids being top players is slim, it's only happened 1s an that was Utd class of 92, so you can see why people ain't happy grumpy toffee.

01 Sep 2016 09:16:05
I think you're missing the point Grumpy, its not to do with the so called £100mil or spending it on the wrong players!
Because no one wants that.
You're saying it as if the appropriate players weren't there, and we chose not to buy, well they were, we selected them, approached them and even with months to organise things, we failed!
That's nothing to do with money, or the wrong players, that's incompetence. Then to go after a £30mil Sissoko at 22:00 shows absolute desperation!
Fans have a right to be disheartened, RK said himself, he'd be disappointed to not sign 3 more players!
I personally think the signings we did make are great, but we needed the extra players RK was looking at, or we wouldn't of been bidding!

01 Sep 2016 09:19:01
Grumpy the TV money was about a 112m. that AT LEAST should have been made available.

01 Sep 2016 09:24:56
Sorry beard but that is two negative post from you today.
You can't expect us to spend millions on new players every window just for the sake of it.
We already had the basis of a decent squad - we all said last season that this was the best squad we had for many years but martinez was ruining them.

We have replaced those who have left - stones, osman, Hibbert, peinaa, etc with Williams, bolasie, gueye, stek and few younger players.

We have sw, rk and moshiri, the promise of new stadium and January window to come.
We also have a lot of players who can play in more than one position to cover injuries, form, etc

All looks positive to me, so go take your own head for a wobble and support the blue boys and rk 100% rather than bitching about ifs, buts and maybes.

01 Sep 2016 09:34:41
Bloody hell BB. . There will be other windows and by then RK's turnaround in terms of form alone will be a massive attraction. So the time for people to be in a state of ''ain't happy'' would be a 'relative' argument because this time last season the arrow was hitting the 'well and truly pi**ed off ' scale!

01 Sep 2016 09:36:53
It's not about "not" spending money, it's about trying to spend it and not being able to!

Either because our negotiators are incompetent
Or we're not a big enough draw, either way, it's that which is disheartening, not the actual spending!

No one wants to see a £30mil panic buy of Sissoko at 22:00.

01 Sep 2016 09:51:29
Beard you are a prime example of what my post is about. Moshri has done wonders since joining, he has managed to unite and instill a positive feeling back into the real fans.

Last season, and previous seasons we would not of been able to sign the players we have done regardless of who's money it is.

We have spent more in this window than in previous windows does that not show you anything about the clubs intent? RK identified our weaknesses and has strengthened them, what more do you want? Why don't you listen when they say it will take at least 2 seasons for us to be where we want to be instead of listening to rumours born in the press. It is not only you, a few others seem to be whinging just the sakes of it. Wake up and have a look at what is happening.

01 Sep 2016 09:52:42
We had a bad last day transfer, simple as that, Witzel and Sissoko pissed us about, Porto upped their price to 50 million Euro for brahimi, Napoli would not sell Gabiodini, what are we supposed to do, send the Kray twins round to reason with them, we cannot offer champs league football just yet but it's not like we did not try to get these players in .

Stones, Howard, Osman, Mcgeady, Hibbert replaced with Stek, Williams, Gaye, Bolasie, Valencia.

Add to that, the like of Tom Davies, Keiron Dowell and a raft of youngsters coming through under Unsworth.

Barkley is better than Sissoko, another year so will Tom Davies.

Other clubs tried to shaft Everton, I would sooner wait than sign average players, no better than we already have for the sake of buying to please supporters, then we would need to change our motto to only the average is good enough.

01 Sep 2016 09:57:06
EFCfanatic, How do you know it was not made available?

Please please please tell me how much we had available to spend and also when Moshri, RK or SW told you.

Sadly you think because that much was not spent then we did not have that to spend. I went to PC world to buy a TV, I had £1000 to spend and bought a tv for £650. No one said to me " But I thought you had £1000 to spend. " Just because money is not spent does not mean it is not available.

01 Sep 2016 10:04:05
I'm not bothered about loosing siscocko, I'm sick of us filling our squad with midfielders.
But to top it all off by loaning Valencia it is a kick in the teeth. He is one of the worst players I have ever seen. He has a track record of not barons lucky season in the Mexican league. Ten goals in two seasons, really if we get any injuries this year up front we are in a lot of trouble. Now you can argue that goals aren't everything he must be getting those assists right, no 8 in two seasons.
This guy brings nothing to our squad, he is fast but cannot pass cannot dribble and cannot shoot not to mention weak as hell. We would have been better calling it a day, because now we have to pay this guys wages to sit on the bench just in case.

01 Sep 2016 10:07:59
''I had £1000 to spend and bought a tv for £650. ''

GT. . You old scrooge 😛.

01 Sep 2016 10:19:57
We would of had some sort of indication that the players we were interested in, weren't interested on coming! And if we genuinely didn't, then whoever is in charge of that side of things is brain dead!

01 Sep 2016 10:41:27
Blue247 I was going to get the one that had colour, But why spoil the kids, Black and white for our family and they will enjoy it.

01 Sep 2016 08:28:35
Right it's done for four months.

Chilled now. So a couple of points as to the way I see things.

The manager and dof have only been brought into place at the start of the team so of course they're going to take time to gel plus t Walsh will need to set up his network and scout his targets. And by what I've read he's methodical and takes his time.

We did good business early on with stek, gueye, Williams and balasie

Valencia isn't that bad a player. better than kone

Free agents are not bound by the transfer window. there maybe a gem or two out there for a short term deal. Mr Walsh do your thing

Most of the targets we went for where at ripoff prices. and where not completed for a variety of reasons. the most important thing being it was not for lack of money. so the investment looks to be there.

Mr Walsh now has four months to pull his tripe out and identify targets in good time, so hopefully get the business done early and quickly.

I will say we seem to drag transfers out and go in too low. I know this is the art of negotiation and it's the norm to haggle. but. there's haggling and then there's daylight robbery. I'm not saying efc should be held to ransom and I understand that value for money is key but I am saying put forward a deal that's more realistic to the selling teams expectations.

We need to be quicker getting deals done. I read an article about the Perez deal that arsenal gazumped us on and if true it states that it could have been completed the week before. If true then it's criminal for us not to have completed quicker and change is needed. Whether this will come from a change in policy or something else I don't know, but
I do think that Mr moshiri will be embarrassed by this, especially after publicly stating that efc will spend and from what I've read he is not the type to accept failure lightly.

I have no doubt that ronny will do his best with what he has available and we should be in the mix for the European places come January.

Mr moshirI needs to back ronny fully in the jaunary window so any players we do identify need to be completed asap to stop us getting gazumped.

01 Sep 2016 08:56:02
The thing is, nearly all of the players we missed out on had question marks over their heads. Brahimi- bad attitude, Sissoko- Newcastle fans have said he doesn't turn up enough (I do concede Palace fans said the same of Bolasie) , Perez- journeyman, even ed02 questioned how good this signing would be, Mata- good player, but quite slow and plays in Ross' position, Gabbiadini- poor goal record etc.

I understand that we are not really in the position to get the very best, but for every quality player we miss out on there could also be a lucky miss, we have all seen poor deadline day buys, e. g. Niasse, Balotelli, Bily.

01 Sep 2016 11:32:09
Grumpy I take exception to your use of the phrase 'real fans'. 'Real Fans' are not just those that agree with you or some of the other sycophants. We all have a right to our views, mine are that RK will turn this Club around given time but he made no secret of the fact that he needed/ wanted more strength in depth added this Window before it closed and our negotiation Team have failed yet again. Everton may go about things quietly in the transfer market but by heck they certainly cock it up in full public eye.

01 Sep 2016 07:42:34
Overall, in my opinion, the transfer window was a success. It's early days, but for me, Stekelenburg is better than last season's Howard, Williams is not necessarily better than Stones but is better for us (exactly what we needed in defence) , Gueye is better than McCarthy, and Bolasie is 100 times better than any random player Martinez played wide left last season. I'm also pretty sure that if Koeman can get Valencia back on form we may be pleasantly surprised. Either way he's better than shoving Deulofeu up front if Rom gets injured. We also got rid of McGeady (who never had it) and Pienaar, Osman and Hibbert (who were past it) .

The club as a whole is moving in the right direction on and off the field, and half of the people on here are too concerned with now to see it. Have a little bit of patience and a little bit of faith lads. COYB NSNO.

01 Sep 2016 08:06:58
I agree Tommy and said as much below. dunno who disagreed with me but everyone got their own opinions. I think we'll do OK and we can always strengthen in January if we need to.

The future's bright, the future's blue.

01 Sep 2016 08:31:55
Hey BlueTommy we have had our dissagreements in the past, but I am 100% with you on this. Yes there are a couple of unknowns in it. eg will Valencia rediscover his form and stay fit? But the 5 signings to date have certainly started to repair the damage done by the poor signings of Martinez.

Compare the signings: Steckelenburg, Bolasi, Williams, Gueye, Valencia.

Joel, Alcaraz, McGeady, Kone, Niasse, Cleverly.

Ok I accept Martinez signed Lukaku and Barry who have been excellent. but even Deulofeu, Lennon and McCarthy have flattered to decieve at times. I trust this manager more in 3 months thanI did the last one in 3 years.

01 Sep 2016 09:57:35
Agree completely Degsy. It feels strange but for the last week we seem to agree on everything! I just hope that all the people on here moaning don't take it out on the players at the next home game. The atmosphere has been great at Goodison this season and I want it to continue.

01 Sep 2016 07:32:27
Sorry guys but I'm a little annoyed and confused by a lot of the negative tripe being spouted. OK, we are a little frustrated and disappointed we didn't make a major signing but look at how the club had moved on in the last 6 months or so.
- New investor (not owner, yet, i think)
- New (better imo) manager
- New (good) dof - never had one before so takes time to adjust
- Good addi.

01 Sep 2016 07:05:09
So, what happens now with Niasse and Rodriguez?

31 Aug 2016 23:06:39
I'd just like to say well done to the Eds on here. They've had to put up with us all day, particularly a lot of rubbish from half of the fans on here this evening. They are just starting to crack now and get fed up. Have a beer Eds, you've earned it!

{Ed025's Note - sometimes i need more than beer tommy..

01 Sep 2016 04:50:23
Eds do you think we didn't spend big this window because we are saving for a new stadium?

{Ed001's Note - no, it was just difficult to attract the players you wanted. It happens in the early stages of a rebuild, players want the club that is already built rather than one that is in need of it. So long as Koeman does a better job than Martinez did (which isn't difficult) you will be in a better place during the next one and the one after.}

01 Sep 2016 01:50:21
Well I am trying to be positive about today but as Ed002 has said this is a business. From a business viewpoint we failed today to achieve our goals. I can't imagine a business man like Moshiri finding that this is acceptable regardless of the reasons. We have the January transfer session to look forward to and one can only hope that Yacine Brahimi, Manolo Gabbiadini and Lamine Kone will be equally pissed off at not having an opportunity to join us that they will force through a transfer at a more reasonable price.

01 Sep 2016 00:20:55
I said it when all were cock a hoop about Moshiri millions arriving at the club that it would be hard to spend now on quality players without Europe to offer. I was given stick about being negative and players would come for the money, well i'm sorry to have to say i was right. It won't be till we are into Europe that we can attract the quality players, the ones we've got so far are quality but not to the point of other teams in Europe wanting them. Williams, Gueye n Bolassie being those in question. So come Jan window if were doing well we will have a better chance but more so in the summer window when Europe is gained. If we don't get there or struggle up to Jan then we'll be in the same scenario as now, it will be a struggle and we'll be reliant on good scouting and Walsh in particular to unearth someone. So we go with what we got, at least the players now know the stuation and are behind Koemans hard working pressing game scheme, and hopefully injuries permitting ( Striking area in particular) we will bare thre fruits of the tactics. COYB, we need Europe and then we can flex our muscles!

01 Sep 2016 00:33:27
thats nonsense, if u want a player you can get him, am not sayin we should do it bu city got robhinio, without any Europe football. money talks, if u say to a player we will give u x amount to join and help us build a title team other will follow. money talks that simple promise player big pay champs lg within 2-3 yrs title contenders they will come. city did it, not sayin we should or could afford to.

01 Sep 2016 00:40:50
Youre missing the point, i'm talking quality players, which means other teams with Europe to offer will bid against you for them. Robhinio had no one else after him. So no matter how much money u offer if the other team with Europe in place match you, youve no chance.