Everton Banter Archive September 01 2014

 

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01 Sep 2014 23:44:26
Would have liked a CB, but look at the positives. Kept all our best players, and Utd have to carry on paying Clever to watch all there matches for the rest of the season. Oh and Swans happy too.

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We can never pretend to know what RM and his staff know about players, those who want to be at Everton, those who fit the system, and those that fit the budget. If a solid (but not spectacular) Shawcross could be had a a certain price, then it would be a good investment. We do not need oft injured players, team hopping mercenaries, or warm bodies. If you cannot find someone that is better than what you have, then don't buy a player just for the sake of "doing something".

Now, regarding Jags and Distin: How much of the CB play is related to age (hard to see such a fall off in production and skill in 4 months, with Distin getting the whole of the summer months off), and how much is related to coaching, planning, and execution of a defense.

Reading other posts, it sounds like Barry and Besic can drop back, Stones is ready, and perhaps one of the young players is ready to contribute.

Offensively: 7 goals in 3 games, not too shabby, with 3 goals against a Chelsea team playing defensive football to protect a lead.

Oveido will be back soon, Lukaku seems to be reaching full readiness, as is Mirallas. Atsu is on board, and Barkley will be back in less than 2 months.

Money is being saved, be it for new Grounds, a fleet of Bentleys, or the January transfer period.

Good and better days ahead. COYB.

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{Ed025's Note - good positive post that mate..

01 Sep 2014 23:19:33
As transfer windows go that was the worst ever normally we have a roller coaster time the most excitement we had was the the guest appearance of the dildo thought we were going to sign him

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{Ed025's Note - no mate..united refused,, :)

01 Sep 2014 23:12:12
is roberto still at finch farm.

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{Ed025's Note - i dont know mate..

Seem odd, if he is still there, maybe somethink has gone through very late, or am I just hoping

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{Ed025's Note - i think you are mate..

01 Sep 2014 23:02:59
Wheres the duffy money bill?

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That and the forshaw sell on money should have been enough for another cb, dissapointing really

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01 Sep 2014 22:57:33
Without doubt the most disappointing deadline day in my memory as a blue

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01 Sep 2014 23:01:23
How

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Really Tony? Because we got our business done early? Business that has included smashing our transfer record. Also not one mention of any late bids for our star players. If I'm honest I think it goes down as one of the best deadline days ever!

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01 Sep 2014 22:42:04
Q: with all the TV money millions + Fellaini, Arteta & other outgoing transfer money.how come we are languishing in 12th place in the spending table at £34 million & after finishing 5th last season? Someone tell me I'm being thick, wasn't there £80 million+ TV money?

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{Ed025's Note - not all monies will be spent on transfer fees zacki''

Maybe it’s because we have spent our money wisely on targets that RM actually wants and have either not been blackmailed into paying extortionate wages and fees or on anyone just because we as fans think they are great players and think they are in our budget.

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01 Sep 2014 22:28:04
Need to add to squad

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01 Sep 2014 22:22:57
Is transfer deadline day on Sly sports becoming the biggest overhyped disappointing waste of an evening? Jim white annoyingly over playing his part and a bunch of nobs behind the presenters. Never again!

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{Ed025's Note - youll be back in january mate.. :)

Haha don't you know it! An Evertonian is always the eternal optimist!

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Listen to ssn radio its much better than the actual program and you can just have it low in the background and turn it up every now and again and won't have to listen to the same thing every 2 minutes.

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01 Sep 2014 22:21:05
Everton will not be signing cleverley. Deadline day turned out quite good after all

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01 Sep 2014 22:20:44
Regardless of what we've bought in the summer we've failed today not getting a new cb in! Not happy

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01 Sep 2014 22:20:25
Best.Night.Ever

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Now now Swan.i know your upset about king clev not signing but I really hope you get thru the night m8. We will get him in january m8 I guarantee it.chin up lad lol

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01 Sep 2014 22:18:08
No cleverley, 45 mins to go. Are everton playing poker. I do not care if we do or do not get him. Has bobby got a mystery other card up his sleeve?

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{Ed025's Note - no mate..

Cheers ed, short and direct :)

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01 Sep 2014 22:17:02
Im pretty cool with every players we have signed.BUT. Really big oversight not predicting our centre half situation. Alcaraz was a mistake no where near the standard.Stones made a FAIR amount of mistakes in the pre season. I think he needs some time to mature he will be great.Even if Jagz and Distan gel again we can't afford an injury.You can't make that level of mistake after making huge investments in the squad.I pray we have secretly signed a centre half.

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01 Sep 2014 22:14:42
Thats it lads no one coming in. Listening to bobbys comments a coiple of days ago I had a feeling we wpuldnt be getting any more. In the cold light of day I don't think this squad is strong enough to cope with the extra games this season.

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01 Sep 2014 22:14:26
tom deal off thank the lord any news on any defenders ed.

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{Ed025's Note - no mate..

01 Sep 2014 22:13:13
Cleverley definitely NOT coming to Everton. ssn just reported from Finch Farm.

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01 Sep 2014 22:08:51
Well that's me done then. May as well of stayed banned. Heartbroken.

Still, there is always January. I live in hope.

One day King Clevs will sign, and if I have to wait 4 months for it to happen, then so be it.

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{Ed025's Note - unlucky mike.. :)

01 Sep 2014 22:08:36
ssn categorically rules out a Cleverley move. Some good news at least.

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01 Sep 2014 22:06:44
Hi Guys,

First time I have posted since the whole 'registering' non-sense! :)

So Tom Cleverly. Worst player in the history of the game? Well I can see that many people are stingingly critical of him. However, some of these are the same people that said Gibbo was the worst Utd. player of all time, Barry was Mr. Sideways and was rubbish, wanted to literally give Coleman away after 1 or 2 mistakes in his early days at full back (even offering to drive him personally to another club), slated Naisy for 2yrs even though he had just come back from a serious injury, hardly played, said McCarthy was rubbish and not worth 13m, wrote Eto'o off as a pensioner and goldigger before he had kicked a ball etc. etc.

Once again thank God people who know football are selecting players for our great club!! Otherwise we would be in serious trouble. I must admit this signing does not fill me with excitement (if it even happens), however RM has worked with the player before and clearly knows him better than any of us, so let's stop with all the drama. If the price is right and it suits Everton and RM then who the heck are we to say otherwise?

Also lot being said on here about Jags' poor form. but to say that ''he can't play in RM's system'' is quite simply rubbish as he played in it for most of last season and we had the 3rd or 4th best defence in the league ffs! The truth is that he has been poor since his injury at the end of last season, sometimes that happens after an injury just look at Torres! Jags may or may not improve and yes I would hope that Stones is introduced before too long but give Jags a bit of respect please, he is still our captain and deserves a bit more loyalty. If he does get his form back then he will be replaced before too long but he deserves better support from us during this difficult time!

Rant over :) COYB!

aflm78

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{Ed025's Note - good post that mate...iv missed that..

Thanks Ed :) and just noticed a little mistake in my previous post.

Of course, I meant to say:

'If Jags DOESN'T get his form back then he will be replaced'

Anyway Cleverly deal off so no need to worry any more! :) Hope we have a little surprise up our sleeve before window closes though!
IMWT!

aflm78

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01 Sep 2014 21:59:42
All very quiet from the blues and we all know a new cb & rb is a must.

Not sure we actually need another central midfielder. I would rather have another wide player as Atsu doesn't look good enough yet for the 1st team an peinaar is looking more injury prone as the days go by.

COYB NSNO

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01 Sep 2014 21:39:23
I have the greatest respect for RM, but we need a strong c/b, plus a second choice keeper who can at least catch a ball, as things stand looks like what we will get is a midfield player who, is, not very quick, not very strong, cannot pass, or head, has a poor first touch, and could not find space in the middle of the outback, BUT HE ONCE HAD A FEW GOOD GAMES FOR WIGAN,

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Amen brother!

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I would like us to get schwarzer from chelsea, he's there 3rd choice now

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Spot on mate.I just don't see the point in this deal we are overloaded in the midfield department . Its plain as the nose on my face what areas we need to be strengthening.

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01 Sep 2014 22:11:16
ssn just reporting that efc officials have stated no deal for this waste of space so we can all relax now. Will not be happy if we do not reinforce our central defence within next hour. It is obvious where we are struggling, RM should be addressing this as a matter of importance. Come on Bobby, sort it out lad

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Alan Irwin now on ssn saying there will be no deal for cleverley. Thank god.Also saying that's it with everton no deals in or out.Apart from Duffy that is.Disappointed we haven't tried to get a centre back in.

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{Ed025's Note - me too jimmy..

01 Sep 2014 21:14:46
The only target is cleverley now lads. If bobby sees something in him its his decision to make but I've got to be honest I was expecting a little bit more after what he did for us last season.

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{Ed025's Note - me too sheeds..

01 Sep 2014 21:11:23
Does anyone else really hate jim white

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{Ed025's Note - yes me!..

And me.

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I 3rd that!

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Haha, I'm the same but I have to watch him. He's like an old guy trying to fit in with younger folk. Really difficult to watch.

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01 Sep 2014 21:31:52
Mans a legend!!

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{Ed025's Note - swap leg for bell..

Leg-End!

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01 Sep 2014 21:49:41
Urm. yeah yeah sure that's what I meant! Mustve been auto correct or something :P

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01 Sep 2014 21:51:41
Noisy bugger needs to bring it down a few notches. Mind you Natalie's a bit smart.

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Gotta agree with this statement! Wish I could watch Deadline day somewhere else but unfortunately got to put up with this eejit!!

alfm78

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01 Sep 2014 20:58:07
My life is very slowly going into nothingness

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It will only get worse if Tom cleverly signs, all this in Martinez we trust crap won't wash with me

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Cleverly and Henen going to olympiakos bad day for you swan. Sorry mate

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01 Sep 2014 20:51:49
very quiet on the rumour front!

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{Ed025's Note - thank god with some of the names linked wilfy..

01 Sep 2014 19:44:06
come on ed who are the players Spanish bob wants

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{Ed025's Note - that is more a question for bobby KH, every lead i follow up has been dashed today, so im sitting back and just letting it happen mate..

01 Sep 2014 18:52:14
Can you please unban me ed. It is a bit of a joke that I've been banned for nearly 3 months as it is.

It is looking like we are going to sign King Clevs and I am over the moon. I need to be back for when this monsterous signing is (hopefully) completed. Come on Roberto 4 hours 10 mins to get it done.

PS why was I banned in the first place?

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{Ed025's Note - i really dont know mike, you must have upset another ed mate..

01 Sep 2014 20:54:04
My days!! Mike? Is that really you?

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Thanks ed. I needed to be back on here as I have my King Clevs song all prepared, just waiting for it to go through now. Time for Bobby Brown Shoes to get a move on now.

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{Ed025's Note - i cant wait mike..

01 Sep 2014 18:44:58
Ed. r we looking to bring in any Barca players on loan?

Has Song been signed by anyone?

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{Ed025's Note - he has gone to west ham AW..

01 Sep 2014 18:02:27
Will there be any out goings ed or just hopefully arrivals

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{Ed025's Note - i would be surprised if anyone left ste..

01 Sep 2014 20:14:49
Cleverly wants to join us. Martinez wants him but doesn't want to pay anywhere near what Utd are asking. He wants around 2mill with performance based increases Utd want and due to FFP need around 8mill. Martinez wants a loan deal for him but would spend some of his funds on him. No centre back will be coming in today.

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I think if cleverley does sign(personally hope not)then besic will be used as the defender everybody wants.hes played there most of his short career

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Seems strange that as many had besic down as the 4 mil xavi, plus cleverly wuddent improve my 5 a side team

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01 Sep 2014 19:52:06
Every player we've been linked with today apart from cleverly has been ruled out according to alan irwins 'sources' I got the impression a couple of days ago martinez was finished with this window. If we do end up with cleverly I think it will be more out of sentiment on bobbys part because on the grand scale of things I don't see where he fits in. We really needed a cb for me not another midfielder.

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01 Sep 2014 19:27:28
Gotta say I'm not happy with any 1 we've been linked with over the last few hrs especially cleverly! This Rolando fella seems to be a bit risky too. 8 mil for a 29 year old who we know very little about. We do need a cb but if that's our only option I'd rather wait until January

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01 Sep 2014 18:54:55
What about a cheeky bid for Defoe anyone?

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01 Sep 2014 18:52:54
Tom cleverley not good enough, loan if we have to. 7million not a chance. Come on bobby lad move on. But looks like this has legs.

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01 Sep 2014 18:50:12
ssn just reporting that Rolando is a no-goer. but Cleverley is being worked on. I hope Bobby knows something we don't as we definitely need central defensive reinforcements & it's not looking likely at the mo.& what do we end up with - Cleverley!

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01 Sep 2014 18:29:43
Don't underestimate cleverly I watched him develop under Martinez at Wigan while on loan and was terrific trouble is he was made a scapegoat and was the player replacing scholes in utds cm but will suit our play trust me I was one of the few who thought mcarthy was a great signing and a bargain and yes got slated by most at the time for saying he was of the Roy keane mould, look at him now every everton fan loves him

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Someone who knows what he's talking about, well said sir.

King Clevs is better than Muhamed '' Lionel Messis shadow'' Besic, and Gareth ''running through treacle'' Barry. He will improve us no end if he signs.

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01 Sep 2014 18:27:19
Got in from work tonight and just thought I would tune in to ssn to check out their transfer deadline day coverage. can't help to have noticed that regardless of whether activity is expected or not, in the 2 hours I have been watching Everton have not even featured. Should I be surprised?

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01 Sep 2014 18:21:46
100% nobody coming in!!

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01 Sep 2014 18:07:03
Just home from work and looking at transfers, I was hoping for some interest in a good centre half. It looks like all the deals are being done around us. This is a good test for RM, can he pull something out of the bag later tonight. I still believe he is the best man for the job and even if he can't bring in another CH he will get the ones we do have playing up to their best.

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01 Sep 2014 18:00:29
Anything on isco we are second favourites to sign him?

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01 Sep 2014 17:49:53
I have been watching ssn, and we haven't been mentioned once pertaining to a transfer I guess we have had are lot for this window:( very sad

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01 Sep 2014 17:41:13
All this talk about forwards signing is a waste of time. We do not need forwards. We need to get in a top quality center half. I also think Stones has to play. Jags is quite woeful at present. His form has dipped so much.but that does not mean he will not regain it. Stones came in at the end of last season and we went 11 games unbeaten. Played half the "top" sides and he performed really well. His distribution is much better than Jags. Having said all this, we have defended very poorly as a team and Jags is not the only one defending poorly. McGeady was a waste of space against Chelsea. He was no threat going forwards and just seemed to jog back slowly when we lost possession. Too much of a luxury player. He needs to look at the work rate put in by Naismith and Mirrallas. Anyway, what we need is a quality center back. Especially now Duffy has gone. He was probably 4th choice, but the ages of Distin and Jags means they cannot play all season and not expect to pick up an injury or two here and there.

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01 Sep 2014 19:01:31
Mcgeady no threat going forward against Chelsea? An assist to Naismith the pass that released Coleman for the assist to mirallas and the corner for the disallowed goal - I would say that was a pretty potent threat wouldn't you?

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For me it's not that jags and distan are poor. But they have no competition. Yes stones is good but still a little raw. Al just does not get enough game time. So if this ranaldo (spelling) is any good I think it will give them the kick up the backside that is needed.

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01 Sep 2014 17:28:12
On a personal level and not what I heard just my opinion why is Toby Alderweld joining Southampton.
I never say that's one that slipped through the net because I think people in football know way more than me, however in this case, WTF. He is better than what we have, available wanting to come to England. Wow

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Completely agree would have loved to see him come to us today.

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01 Sep 2014 16:52:43
Other rumour sites saying shawcross betting suspended for him going to Man Utd. I wasn't necessarily a fan of him coming here but if we are going to sign a defender it will be interesting who it is!

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01 Sep 2014 16:47:05
I've got to say I find it amusing that so many posters are getting excited at the prospect of Shawcross! had woeful england debut and generally not a cultured footballer that we really need in our style of play under RM.

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01 Sep 2014 16:46:45
Be happy with just henen, be gutted with henen and cleverley

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01 Sep 2014 15:33:17
ssn at the training ground. Who has arrived?

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{Ed025's Note - no one yet..

01 Sep 2014 16:47:44
Hopefully no one until villa sign cleverley, i'm sat here terrified man!

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01 Sep 2014 14:40:55
2:40pm. still no news. not looking that exciting then. club have now said a definite 'no' on Nastisic according to ssn, with Duffy now gone our central defense system looks weaker than anything

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01 Sep 2014 16:32:11
not really Duffy never played!

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01 Sep 2014 14:33:27
According to ssn david hennan deal should be completed soon but not sure of anyone else signing

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01 Sep 2014 14:18:07
As I don't have any "contacts" or "sources", it's going to be another transfer deadline day when I haven't a clue who we'll end up signing.
It's a bit like going on a blind date and, before you see her, you don't know if it's going to be, "RESULT!" or "I'll have to find a pub where nobody knows me!"
Still, I'd rather have Bobby sorting it than any other manager.

IR(&K)IT

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01 Sep 2014 12:50:40
If we can sign, welbeck on loan with veiw of permanent, Holtby with the same clause, and a GOOD 23 to 28 year old defender (albiet not many out there) on a perm. then I *might* be happy. Otherwise, Falcao wouldn't be so bad I guess.

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{Ed025's Note - holtby is going to hamburg mate..

01 Sep 2014 13:51:03
Oh right brilliant. Guess i'll have to settle with Falcao then.

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You watching Teletext?! Falcao gone to Utd first thing this morning!

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01 Sep 2014 15:21:03
You know something Howie. i'm just done now :'( off to my little hole in the ground now. Wake me when its tomorrow haha!

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01 Sep 2014 08:16:25
Ed 25, all the best for you today mate. This will be a long day for you and we know you'll be there editing our posts of elation (hopefully) or despair (please no) come 11pm tonight. Great work as always mate.

COYB

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{Ed025's Note - cheers ace, i just hope we do some business mate..

01 Sep 2014 03:05:07
The shawcross rumour was started by a kid on twitter calm down will use no interest in him at all, 4 year contract left English not a chance would want to much

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Dirty dirty dirty dirty dirty dirty dirty player

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31 Aug 2014 23:46:25
Not sure how much u buy into this shawcross rumour but I would be buzzing if he came. Our defenders are always too nice and show the opposing team so much respect, and often don't defend well on our own corners but shawcross wouldn't let anyone bully him, he'd stand up to be counted every game and he's played stoke for years so can actually defend, I'd brother him than an aging Rolando, and regarding nastasic I would again rather shawcross, we have youth who have to potential to be that good and better but what we need is someone for now, now in 2 seasons. But whoever bobby brings in I'll get behind. My ideal would be a holtby like player and shawcross. What's your opinion ed?

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{Ed025's Note - im putting my trust in bobby as well D....but just in case i have a lorry load of paint stripper waiting just in case.. :)

Surely your not planning on stripping Martinez's boat race of Goodison Ed? He's only been up there fr a wet weekend lol

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{Ed025's Note - its just on standby in case we only sign cleverley joe.. :)

If your nightmare comes true I'll help you by doing the cutting in for new painting Ed :-)

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{Ed025's Note - cheers joe..i will hold the ladder mate as im not very good with heights mate..

 
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