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19 Mar 2016 23:12:01
Couldn't go the game today because of work just watched the game on TV and I think any team in the league could have beat us today what a terrible performance.
19 Mar 2016 23:55:44
Agree even Villa.
19 Mar 2016 22:53:35
If David Moyes had the funding that'll be available to Roberto Martinez - the telly money and Mr Moshiri's investment - for player recruitment and player retention/ development, would he have broken through the "glass ceiling", would he have dropped the "bringing a knife to a gunfight" mentality, would he have delivered a more exciting, less dour (but still defensively strong) style of football, and would he have qualified for the CL and won cups?
19 Mar 2016 23:02:06
Simply, yes.
19 Mar 2016 23:10:21
NBTB: So, would you have David Moyes back as a replacement for Roberto Martinez?
20 Mar 2016 00:01:39
Part of me wants to say yes but even in the short time he has gone the PL has changed and his style of footie would not fit in for a top 4 place nowadays.
20 Mar 2016 00:15:18
Would I rather Moyes than Martinez? Yes definitely. Do I want Moyes to be our next manager? Not so sure.
Depends on what other managers are available really. I'm curious to know what Moyes would do with our squad and how to spend the money.
I know he was wrong on a number of things when he left and disrespected the club but answer this are we finishing in better places under Martinez than Moyes?
No, that's simply why I'd prefer Moyes.
As I said I would see what other managers were available or what managers would want the job before giving it to Moyes. Second term for managers are rarely if ever successful.
20 Mar 2016 15:40:49
Why would you go back to Moyes? We've got a shareholder with money and we can go out there and get a top quality manager.
Stop looking at the past and start looking at the future.
Moyes may not have spent tons at United but he had a decent team. His tactics were exactly the same as when he was with us utterly negative with negative substitutions.
I can't believe you are still talking about getting second best when we could going for the best.
We need a change of mentality at this club. The board looks like it's coming together with people starting be put into place to move the financial side of things forward but the players need to believe more in their own ability and believe they can beat anyone.
The fans need to believe that we are no longer looking for scraps and that anything is now possible.
This manager was brought in when everyone believed what Moyes was saying in that he couldn't take the club any further. Well I believe Moyes was a person and that my club is one of the best in the world and is about to get back to it. I want a manager now who has knowledge and experience in making that come true.
{Ed025's Note - good post that john..i agree with it all mate..
19 Mar 2016 22:43:30
Its been a while since I posted. I see lots of anti-RM posts now on here. 2 seasons ago I was the subject of a lot of abuse for suggesting he was making terrible signings and a lack of goals would come back to haunt us. As it happens, he then made a remarkable signing in Lukaku. He also had the good fortune to have the young Barkley mature into a footballer who also chipped in with a few goals. The reliance on these 2 players is far too great in my opinion. When Lukaku is stopped. Everton are stopped. I can see Lukaku leaving at the end of this season and if not then, certainly the season after. A good run in the Europa League last season kept us happy to a degree. A couple of good cup runs this season has done the same. My girlfriend knows nothing at all about football, but watched a few games with me. She asked me why we fiddle around with the ball for so long? She said it was so boring to watch and the other teams were much better at trying to score goals. I know exactly what she means. Some supporters have slagged me for criticsising our signings and players whodont score goals. They tell me players like Besic and McCarthy are class. I disagree. I think both are effective stoppers and very poor creatively. I think Barry is past it, yet still one of our better players all round even though he looks like his boots are stuck in porrige. Cleverly is ok. but will score 1 a season sames as the previously mentioned 2. Lennon has been great. Lukaku awesome. Barkley good at times and poor at others. Deulofeu similar. Consistency has been the key word. or lack of it. Of course I have not mentioned our defending. that has become a joke all round. I am never one to say sack a manager, but I do believe this man will take us down within 2 or 3 seasons based on Lukaku leaving. He is irreplaceable in this current team. When he misfires. we misfire. to rely so much on one player is a dangerous game to play.
19 Mar 2016 23:25:03
Whatever players come and go, it's all pointless (quite literally! ) if the manager can't organise the players/ team/ squad to play effectively and win football matches.
RM has now shown for two seasons running at Everton - and throughout his time at Wigan - that he cannot deliver winning football on a consistent and regular basis.
It's time to call an end to his tenure and see if someone else can deliver success.
There are no guarantees with any manager, but we have to try someone else.
19 Mar 2016 22:21:41
The one crumb of comfort after that shambolic event today was that Moshiri witnessed it.
During the week he reshuffled and I was a bit afraid he'd be sunning himself back in Monaco today.
Like me he was there at the final whistle and would have seen the stadium half empty.
As a business man he'd be thinking, 'How many of those supporters will come back, buy a shirt, buy a mug or a duvet set? '
He's hopefully aware of the lovely, 'Comfort Zone'RMs been afforded for three years and as a business man has spoken to his newly appointed, 'Business Assassin' who will do the dirty work of sacking RM after the semi or after the Norwich game.
Until then we are stuck with the clown.
19 Mar 2016 23:30:54
Mushy; although we won't have CL football next season as an attraction for a top manager to replace RM, we do now have the finances to offer a "project" that might realistically be enough to attract a top manager anyway. Who would be your preferred options?
20 Mar 2016 07:49:52
Anyone Cowpat has got to be better than the present manager, the worst appointment since somebody said, 'I bet Mike Walker could move us forward! '
20 Mar 2016 10:52:41
I just could not cope yesterday and left my seat on the 90 min mark.
just moaning as I am doing is just not good enough. We are far more tolorant than other supporters but I think the board recognise that and it all goes on deaf ears.
we need to let Moshri know ASAP what we all think of the present situation.
Sadly if left to BK nowt would happen and he unfortunately has to take part of the blame.
20 Mar 2016 10:54:33
That was me mushy and I still hold with it he worst ever now . He would struggle with a Sunday League team mate.
19 Mar 2016 21:58:34
Good luck for rest of season boys.
19 Mar 2016 22:43:50
We'll need more than luck!
19 Mar 2016 22:45:48
Cheers Dags well played today mate take nothing away from you but we were very poor.
19 Mar 2016 22:53:56
cheers Dags, just when you think you are a top team a top team comes along and shows you that you are not.
19 Mar 2016 23:05:42
We were poor but Arsenal were very good also. Love to see them go on a good run and challenge at the top. Still possible.
19 Mar 2016 23:13:44
No problem Gent's.
If it's any comfort, I thought we played well today, best I have seen us for a long time.
Coquelin and Elneny snuffed you out and Iwobi and Welbeck looked lively.
That said, Everton are very Jekyl and Hyde this season, thankfully for us, it was Mr Hyde.
19 Mar 2016 23:44:29
you"ve got a player there mate. iwobi looks mustard.
20 Mar 2016 08:10:00
Toffee,
Don't let Wenger see your post.
He would say we don't need to strengthen next season :-)
20 Mar 2016 11:02:23
yes but would he say your 8th defeat at home was a one off. I fell of my hammock when I read that one, one of hundreds of mind boggling quotes from mr fraud.
19 Mar 2016 21:56:14
I would like martinez to stay. Home form is terrible, today's performance was terrible. However get the home form sorted, and we will be up there. 2 cup semis, 1 away league loss all season, I think shows if we can sort the home form out, then anything is possible.
19 Mar 2016 22:00:56
How much time does he need?
19 Mar 2016 22:13:07
Point to anywhere on this blokes CV to prove your support. He has brought with him the exact same staff that participated season upon season in Wigans relegation fight and eventual demise. His assistant has admitted there is no Plan B and there never has been. He does not know how to organise a defence and makes tactical decisions that even my 8 year old Grand Son knows defy logical explanation. Today he says he is confused with the performance. Finally 2-0 up against West Ham 10 minutes to go he puts on an attacker, against Arsenal 2-0 down he puts on a defender. The bloody players did not know what was going on today .
19 Mar 2016 22:32:29
Rushpalmer has to be having a laugh.
16 home games, four wins!
Beggars believe the minority of RM fans comments on this site.
19 Mar 2016 22:52:14
rush palmer are you avin a laugh. go and lie down in a dark room. we shouldint have to sort home form out because we shoudin be losing 8 and counting we are only staying up because are away form is good. you really are a strange person. last season we said let's give him this season and now this season your saying let's give him next season. its not even april the first if it was it would av been a good joke.
19 Mar 2016 23:27:21
How anyone can disagree with my comment is beyond belief. Sitting there hoping for the home gorm to change and the anount of goals conceded. Surely he has had enough time and chances and the still is no progrssion. Left bewildered haha.
20 Mar 2016 07:59:06
OK guys my first post on here. Firstly we support the same team, just because we have a minor difference of opinion on the manager, I feel being called "a strange person" a little harsh and not necessary. Especially toffee Paul, as you said on March 14th " couple of tweaks to the defence and we could be flying nxt season ".
19 Mar 2016 21:49:43
Have we ever let this amount of goals in a season before in our history just a thought if anyone knows.
19 Mar 2016 23:33:29
2 less, at the moment, than the season we were almost relegated. Still have 8 games left.
19 Mar 2016 21:42:21
Any new manager suggestions?
19 Mar 2016 22:00:53
I'm happy with martinez for the time being. Been following Alan Stubbs at hibs and I'd like him to get a shot Obe day.
19 Mar 2016 22:25:16
Moshiri is an admirer of Koeman apparently!
19 Mar 2016 23:57:21
I wanted it to work with rm, I really did but its the same reoccurring issues throughout his managerial carear and I don't see things changing even with new investment. I just feel you cannot be as open as we are in this league as we are always facing an uphill battle even when we are playing well. I applaud what he has tried to bring but the reality is that we were seemingly better results wise under moyes. He has brought in some great players and we have played some nice football at times but that is pointless if the results are undesirable and that comes down to our downright abysmal defensive record. Tome there is no future at all under rm.
20 Mar 2016 00:37:21
We were defensively sound in martinez 1st season then stubbsy left.i know people on here have before said about ferguson, but how about rhino unsworth. He is doing well at u21 level. Could he crack it as 1st team manager. Its possible.
19 Mar 2016 20:16:33
Didnt even think arsenal was as good as the commentators made out. I think a better team on the day would have overturned their 2 nil lead. The space we afforded them in our final third was ridiculous and barcelona probably would have went into double figures in a relaxed mode. Arsenals attacks broke down far too easily in the second half and should have well and truly embarrased us today. Truly sorrying result.
19 Mar 2016 20:14:27
At this stage of the season the league table doesn't lie.
Only the bottom four have fewer wins and Palace, who haven't won in the league since the Christmas decorations went up, are only five points behind us.
We've had no European distractions, haven't had a horrendous injury list and had a nice winter break in Dubai. No real excuses then.
To quote the late Father Jack 'Drink'.
19 Mar 2016 22:40:54
Is Rushpalmer an Everton supporter or a wum, happy with Martinez! Where the heck is logic or reason in that statement.
19 Mar 2016 20:02:06
I have not once thought or said that roberto should go, but it feels like any team can come and score 2 or 3 against us in the league and we look so vulnerable and weak. We have conceded more home goals than aston villa according to todays commentary. It seems like last seasons goal conceding issues are getting worse not better. I can't even say we should get this defender or that defender because individually we have good defensive players. Nothing is changing and it has been almost 2 years. I am begining to think rm should go come the end of the season, but who could replace him? I can't really think of anyone suitable that would come here.
19 Mar 2016 19:10:03
Ed
How come my posts ain't been posted from earlier mate.
{Ed002's Note - You have posted twice today and both have been put up - perhaps on the "Other" page.}
19 Mar 2016 19:32:24
Ok ed cheers👍🏻.
19 Mar 2016 18:23:06
How long has RM got left on his contact dose any one know.
19 Mar 2016 18:43:28
Doesnt matter, we have the funds to pay him off. But if u were one of talksports get eddie howe supporters we would not be gaining much. if he goes and rumour I heard is moshiri wants european football and will install a manager capable of gaining it in the summer.
19 Mar 2016 19:00:48
Just want him gone now can't take it anymore forget the cup we won't win it and Wright the season off the team is a mess.
19 Mar 2016 17:04:57
Awful display from the boys today. No heart or passion at all. Missed barry today marshalling the mid. Stones looked rusty when he came on too. let's get this season over bring some free faces in.
{Ed025's Note - i think thats best keato..
19 Mar 2016 16:19:23
No chance of winning the cup wid that defence lukaku is gone next season for sure and who can blame him martinez is tactically lost and plays formations that the team don't even understand and as for his subs mind boggling first season was so good because he still had moyes defensive stability but that has now well and truly gone.
19 Mar 2016 16:06:33
Lots of people on here was slating Thierry Henry for saying that Barkley and Lukaku are consistently good enough to play for Arsenal. On seeing today's game can anyone really disagree with him. Don't get me wrong, the whole team today was poor. I'm just saying that Thierry Henry was and is a class act and knows a thing or two about football, maybe, just maybe he's got a point whether we like it or not .
19 Mar 2016 16:33:16
Many Everton fans are so paranoid that they regard any criticism of the club or players as part of a sinister conspiracy rather than the views of pundits - who are, after all, paid to offer opinions (whether or not we like the pundits or their opinions) .
Reality check: face facts - poor performances and bad results don't lie when they're being repeated all too frequently.
19 Mar 2016 16:03:04
Times up Roberto. The team was a mess today and that is down to you. You've had your chance to build on last week's win but you've shown that you are not up to the job. Please go at the end of the season.
19 Mar 2016 16:34:50
Will he walk - or will he have to be pushed?
19 Mar 2016 17:00:01
He won't walk and he won't be sacked so think we are stuck with him.
19 Mar 2016 20:06:24
I can't see him walking. I think theclub will back him while the season is still going but I hope they don't think things will change with more funds.
19 Mar 2016 20:51:40
He would not walk at Wigan and has not once admitted it was on his watch or his fault they got relegated. His 7 year run in the Premiership was one of constant relegation fight. His finish at 5 with us in his first season was done quite simply because his methods had not bedded into our defence in particular. Mr Kenwright ignored RM's record and hired him on the strength of a one off 3-0 win against us and the FA Cup win. I honestly believe, I have to believe that Mr Moshri did not get where he is by being naive or stupid.
19 Mar 2016 16:02:18
After watching that today I feel ashamed. many people still believe we are only a couple of players away from a top class team. I for one am having a re-think. I truly believe this team needs gutting and starting again with six or seven top quality players. I also now feel that we have been seriously lucky to get Farhad's investment because next year I think there was a real possibility of relegation.
19 Mar 2016 17:21:22
Unfortunatly I agree with you 100% the squad is a mess.
19 Mar 2016 17:46:06
The squad has a decent spine to it, we just need to compliment our better players with some new first class additions (if we can attract them) and a manager who can organise a defence and has some tactical know how.
19 Mar 2016 19:23:05
Been reading this site daily for 4-5 yrs. not posted much. However, I'd just like to mention that this years leaders narrowly avoided relegation. I honestly believe we have more talented individuals than Leicester, and are only a few additions away from a real good team. I do believe that the problem is the managers lack of tactical awareness and assertiveness. The players were poor today but you have to lead from the front and that's the managers job. Putting on a defender at the break, when 2-0 down, instead of changing it to 3-5-2.giving rom a partner up front. left me baffled. Additionally, our £14m winger/ striker on the bench never warmed up once. truly baffled.
19 Mar 2016 15:12:05
Sorry, Ed. Forgot to put in my previous post how much poorer we look without Gareth Barry. I think a lot of what he gives us goes unnoticed. Besic was very poor.
{Ed025's Note - i said that myself on the live chat tezza...a ship without a rudder mate..
19 Mar 2016 15:22:28
agree that we miss barry but that should not be the case,the man is 35 it could be his last season are we really so bad we have to depend on a soon to retire player our team is packed with internationls and we are depending on a man who has not had a cap for years and won't get another one. its sad.
{Ed025's Note - but we do depend on him paul..hes the only one in that midfield with some grey matter mate..
19 Mar 2016 15:34:38
any more poor games like that and ed and I will have plenty of grey matter.
19 Mar 2016 16:22:07
Eight home PL defeats this season.
Likely to finish in the bottom half of the PL table - and even lower than last season.
Team too often disorganised, ineffective tactically and lacking belief.
RM has had three seasons to show progress - in terms of results he clearly hasn't done that.
Recruitment and player development lauded, but inconsistent performances and poor results indicate that our players/ team/ squad might not be as good as we think they are - irrespective of the manager's failings to get them playing consistently well.
Apart from first season's PL finish, all we've seen are some promising cup runs, but even those have eventually come to crashing halts. I have no confidence in what we'll do in this season's FA Cup sem-final.
I wish RM had done better - not least because that would have meant Everton doing well - but he isn't doing well enough and I see no consistent signs that it will improve under him. The occasional very good performances/ results are way too infrequent and no reason to believe we will progress under him.
He's losing/ lost the fans; he must be close (if not there already) to losing the dressing room; he's clearly lost his mind (repeating the same mistakes and making excuses - blaming others - for the poor performances/ results) ; and he's on course to lose his job (despite FM listening to BK's gushing praise) .
19 Mar 2016 15:04:50
Just left a ground devoid of excitement, hope or encouragement.
One of the worst Everton displays I've ever seen.
Gutless and totally outclassed by a top 4 team.
That's our progress guys after 3 years of RM.
Mr. Mosh, please call him into your office before he leaves the ground and give us some hope for the future.
Total garbage.
19 Mar 2016 15:02:32
. so in such a poor quality premier league season where the likes of Leicester City are likely to win the league, the likes of West Ham and Stoke City are likely to get European/ Champions league football, how the hell have we managed to end up in 14th place with just a little over 1 month to go til the end of the season with the talent we have at our disposal? This is an utter disgrace and the blame lies entirely at the door of the clueless fraud of a manager and his clueless tactics we have to put up with week in week out. for me now he's gone and will be sacked at the end of the season as I can't see any likely improvement in our league form. & by the way folks - we're still only on 38 points, 2 points away from relegation safety!
19 Mar 2016 15:17:33
Outpassed, outplayed and wenger out thought martinez with his set up. don't know about the drifters at half time think russ abbott singing what an atmosphere would have been better. ground seamed dead from the start.
19 Mar 2016 14:56:39
awfull,embarresing,a disgrace,shool of science my arse. 2.0 down and brings centre half on. why no niasse. barkley was poor. 8 defeats at home. our away form keeping us up FACT come on board show some balls and get rid of this clown,muppet,fraud,fake, or arrest him for inpersonating a manager.
19 Mar 2016 14:54:25
Just watched the Arsenal game on TVs looking at Martinez when we went 2-0 down his face looked blank thought he would change it half time or 60 mins played bring niasse on 2 up front try and get back into the game sorry the fella hasn't got a clue or no plan b just same old boreing playing it along the back 4 didn't think I would agree with a lot of evertonians on this but yes use are defo right get him out now.
19 Mar 2016 17:31:50
He did change it at half time he went 3 at the back.
19 Mar 2016 14:54:25
Arsenal were good, very good in the first half, but we were clueless! I counted one shot on target in the 2nd half!
Hope it's just me, but some of our players looked like they weren't bothered! More back passes than a Six Nations match!
Very, very disappointed!
{Ed025's Note - i agree tezza..
19 Mar 2016 14:53:11
On the rumours page for Everton next manager, Moyes is now 4/ 1. Last week I think he was 7/ 1. I am not in the pro Moyes return camp but action is certainly needed.
{Ed025's Note - change yes..moyes..no thanks..
19 Mar 2016 16:06:01
I admit I was a big Moyes fan and would love him back but unfortunately I am not sure that many suporters would want him back. That would put him under a lot of pressure from day one.
I am sure he could get is back to the top with the right backing from Moshiri if given the chance.
Our squad is not strong as two many older players and needs a complete rebuild could take a couple of years, that s why Moyes could be the man.
19 Mar 2016 16:45:04
I could imagine Kenwright bringing Moyes back - even though I couldn't imagine Kenwright actually getting rid of Martinez - but I'd expect Moshiri and his advisors to have someone different in mind (whoever that might be) .
19 Mar 2016 14:51:21
Well, that was really bad. Players looked like headless chickens, they huffed and puffed but had no shape or organisation.
What's to blame?
The Manager!
If we can tempt mourhino, go get him otherwise whoelse is there?
That's my weekend ruined again.
19 Mar 2016 14:49:50
What a toothless display. This season has been the most frustrating of all time. I cannot understand how we go from aggressive world beaters to toothless tigers. The mind set is just not right. I don't get it. I just don't get it. Can someone explain to me how one week we look like Barcelona and the next like Forest Green Rovers ( no offence to the supporters) . I am confused!
{Ed025's Note - its the midfield for me aussie...all workrate and no brains mate..
19 Mar 2016 19:34:12
Absolutely spot on Ed, McCarthy and Besic had really no idea of the role of a defensive midfield player and were consistently caught out of position, too far upfield, when Arsenal attacked which forced the back four to lose shape and against quick and fast passing attackers there was only going to be one outcome.
Tactically we are second rate and RM and the total coaching staff need to take a long hard look at themselves.
I can't believe some actually played professional football!
{Ed025's Note - for me they are just runners fancy, you cant play with three of them certainly, macca clevs and mo (that sounds like the 3 stooges) are all decent players but playing the 3 of them together is creative suicide, add to that ross giving the ball away every 2 minutes and theres the problem, its the managers fault pure and simple mate..
19 Mar 2016 14:42:12
I have watched today's game and just don't understand why when we are getting beat 2-0 we have two centre forwards on the bench and we don't bring either on. We have just bought a new centre forward, surely it is worth sticking him on with 15 minutes to go. If he is any good he can surely last 15 minutes as the two Arsenal centre backs had total control of Lukaku and he desperately needed support.
{Ed025's Note - your right matt..
19 Mar 2016 14:32:54
Absolutely clueless today!
{Ed025's Note - your overestimating them sir loin..
19 Mar 2016
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19 Mar 2016 08:37:37
I'm going for a 3-1 win to us
Barkley to score
What u think murff.
19 Mar 2016 10:14:43
2-0 and let's hope RM (clown) sorts his subs out.
19 Mar 2016 10:27:54
3-0 for me Pb, obviously not betting on it though, got the winner of the Gold Cup yesterday so bit flush at the minute, well until 5pm today anyway.
19 Mar 2016 10:44:18
Yes 2-0 for me, (MARTINEZ: The manager says the Blues have to repeat last weekend's FA Cup performance this afternoon:) MARTINEZ it was heading for a draw until a bit of magic from Rom saved us, Lee you are right he is a clown.
19 Mar 2016 13:34:01
Best Squad in years and Martinez is the man to take us forward. Currently 2-0 down and 12th in the table heading for our lowest position in 11 years. There is no way this Manager should be allowed to drag this great Club any lower.
19 Mar 2016 13:44:18
Agreed DM. Let in more goals at home than anyone this season. We are never going to defend well under this manager. Why would it suddenly happen? Martinez never had anything but a very leaky defence. Even worse than Aston Villa at home this season. That's scary 😓
Obviously want us to win FA cup but Martinez has to go in summer regardless.
19 Mar 2016 13:59:03
Doesn't look good from this end. Puts on an attacker when we are 2-0 up (West Ham) and now we are 2-0 down and he puts on a defender. The guy is an idiot.
19 Mar 2016 14:17:34
. but just remember the words of Blue Bill last weekend guys. "do you know what I really thought tonight - what a manager! ". lol. let's just hope that Mr Moshiri doesn't have the same blinkered vision at the end of the season then, he is now our only hope to get rid of this clueless fraud!
19 Mar 2016 05:12:03
My team for next year Butland, Baines, Dann, JagielkaColeman, Lennon, McCarthy, Barkely, Cerci, Yarmalenko, Batshuayi. Thoughts anyone.
19 Mar 2016 07:41:23
Where do I start? Butland is overpriced at £20m and has just signed a new contract, whereas Begovic is still only 29 and half the price, and Mandanda I believe is free. Just because we have money doesn't mean we need to spend over the odds. What have you got against Mori? He's been quality this season, and we have Stones so don't need to pay £15m for Dann. You have 3 wingers in your team so God knows what the formation is supposed to be, never mind the fact that Deulofeu has been swerved. And where is Rom? He's our best player by a mile. (Although if he were to go, I think Batshuayi would be a great replacement)
19 Mar 2016 09:57:38
Fraser foster from Southampton.
Thats my 1st choice keepers
Would improve us big time.
19 Mar 2016 10:11:40
Foster for me to. Yorkshire people agree.