Everton Banter Archive January 19 2019

 

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19 Jan 2019 22:58:29
I didn't see the game but clearly not a great performance. Shame, could've/ should've got 3 points today.

But are we simply not good enough? Are the players not as good as we thought/ hoped?

I would like to see McCarthy and or Beni given a run out in midfield, fresh legs with good football skills, pace and drive. Or try that thought of Baines sitting in front of back 4?

I don't feel we need to set alarms off and start sacking everyone but clearly things need addressing.

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{Ed025's Note - very much so bunkbeds..

20 Jan 2019 08:49:54
Old record but look, we set ourselves up because of bad choices at the beginning. If the foundation is soft, how can you be structurally sound. All the information is there in the Premiership on Silva, yet off we go and sign him up. As for no panic sackings! Millions spent on players that were not good enough where they were on a failed coaches say so. The season is gone now. Silva is not going to improve, all the evidence is there. Either he goes now or in the Summer. If he goes now we can caretake for the rest of the season giving DoF and staff 15 games and the summer window to do due dilligence. Martinez I didn't want from the beginning, Koeman I thought would have been okay but alas I was wrong. This fella, I just don't get it.

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{Ed025's Note - i really want to shout that post down DFS, i dont know what it is with everton and managers but as shakespeare would say "something is rotten in the state of denmark", we have appointed 3 managers who i was very excited about in martinez, koeman and silva yet none of them seem to have the formula to make this club great again, mind you that could just mean i dont have a scooby about football i suppose, i think marco needs more time though and i dont want us to become a club who sack managers for the sake of it but things have to improve, its a very worrying time for the club i must admit mate..

20 Jan 2019 09:23:25
who did u want ducks?

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20 Jan 2019 14:30:46
Keep answering this johny1989. Benitez No1 choice, Howe my second (I get homesick, but he was (probably still is an Evertonian) . Just something about Benitez and I reckon he would put his finger on the pulse straight away. My Son In Law and Grand Son are red's and have nothing but good words for the man.

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19 Jan 2019 22:10:45
I agree that we can't keep splashing cash on players every window in the hope it changes everything and I agree with the club that we must of load lots of players to bring in the quality we need.
What I can't understand is our failure to replace Lukaku with a proven goal scorer which we have had several windows to do this and is something we need to get done this window so that he will be integrated into the side and ready to hit new season running.

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{Ed025's Note - i know what you mean metz..

20 Jan 2019 00:03:24
Someone told me we've spent 250 mil recently to get in this shape that's frightening it it's true.

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19 Jan 2019 21:41:14
Batshuayi for 40 mil anyone think he's worth that?

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19 Jan 2019 22:17:54
Yes I would as I don’t think we can get any better than him for where we are yet.

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19 Jan 2019 23:28:04
No definitely not worth 40 plus were not gone sign anyone in jan anyway.

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20 Jan 2019 10:58:50
he is not worth that money but Sig and Richarldson are not worth anywhere near that either.

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19 Jan 2019 21:34:20
The transfer live blog on ssn at 21:27 MS states there will be no jan signings we stick with what we’ve got this is the position from the board ( paraphrased suggest you all have a read yourselves ) 🤷‍♂️
Big C.

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{Ed025's Note - then they all need a good shake BigC, that was awful today and so disjointed that it made my blood boil, not one of them (well possibly lookman) can hold their head up and say they played for the shirt, even gomes has been sucked in to the apathy that is EFC at the moment mate..

19 Jan 2019 22:21:22
Agreed Ed they all need to think is this what
Nil satis nisi optimum is! players included because it’s not good enough. Don’t forget Southampton played 120 minutes mid week and they had the energy the desire to win we didn’t start playing until after 90 minutes. Too little too late!
The chairman Mr Moshiri mr brands must do whatever is possible to improve the team and if that means bringing someone in then they must even if it goes against their philosophy. We as fans expect the best if we were good enough to play for the team you can guarantee we’d all die trying to win every game
And we expect no less from the club
Everton till I die COYB
Big C.

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{Ed025's Note - could not have put it better myself mate..

20 Jan 2019 08:47:12
I was at the game yesterday and from what I saw Gomez and Sigi should have put their stamp on the game and grabbed it by the scruf. They didn't. Every player had a poor game but if the midfield are not working hard enough and generating momentum to attack then the whole show falls to bits. Richy up front seemed to have caught a touch of the Lukaku's, abysmal first touch and really struggled to hold it up with his back to goal. Saints are a poor side apart from a couple of attackers so lord knows what that says about us. Bernard seems to scare defenders and looks a really good player if he can just have the confidence to drive on hard and fast. I felt sorry for Tosun, he was given 20 odd minutes and had no service, I think he needs a good run as a starter and Richy put out on the left and possibly Bernard dropped in as number 10. Sigi needs a rest and more bleep tests in training to quicken his pace. On a side note at the end of the game I was watching to see if Silva would come over to the away support to at least say thanks for turning up (because his team didn't) but from what I saw he stayed right out the way, . a telling point?

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20 Jan 2019 08:55:46
Ed25, watched the replay, (don't go to away games) . At my age I still manage about 30 miles a week and go to the gym, from experience I know anything over 5 miles my right hip locks up. Does Gomes have a jog before the game?

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{Ed025's Note - he looks tired to me DFS, hes a wonderful player but he needs more help there as some are not giving their all imo mate..

19 Jan 2019 19:09:16
I couldn't bring myself to bet against Everton or for Liverpool regardless of the odds, opposition or value for money . I don't ever want us to lose or the other shower to win . Can't believe a Blue could do such a thing , and to brag about it, UNBELIEVABLE.

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19 Jan 2019 21:47:35
Think of all the money you'd off made so far this season backing Liverpool! Backing Everton on the other hand would have you close to bankruptcy!

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19 Jan 2019 19:03:30
Ever since Moshiri and his millions have waltzed into Goodison we have had 5 managers and the team have gone from bad to worse - sick of hearing about projects / will take a few transfer windows etc.

We have spent in the region of nearly 300 million since Moshiri arrival and have gone backwards - especially considering what Moyes achieved on a shoe string budget.

You can blame the managers, the players but I think Moshiri has to shoulder blame also.

We as a club need to get back to the basics otherwise I see another manager leaving shortly.

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19 Jan 2019 19:40:56
A good question. Is Morishi the right man to lead us, or should he just put the money in and take a back seat? Is he an apprentice when it comes to running a football club? It might take a while for him to find his feet. I guess all chairmen had to learn and some the hard way. Hopefully the Jan transfer window might give us some hope. I still believe in Silva but some doubt is starting to creep in.

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19 Jan 2019 20:04:15
Talking rubbish above.

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19 Jan 2019 20:29:31
Uran, nickb57, For me it is the Chairman that is the problem, he is Everton through and through and loves em so much that in these latter years it is his heart rather than head come into play. Moshri can then perhaps bring in his own football people.

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{Ed002's Note - Moshiri has a chum who gives advice to him about football. He advised on the coach and will advise on how to raise the profile of the club.}

19 Jan 2019 20:48:44
Nickb57, I mostly think along the same lines as Ed002 albeit bereft of his in depth knowledge.

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19 Jan 2019 21:49:45
This chum is not doing a very good job.

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19 Jan 2019 22:19:51
Hi ed02 does this chum have name mate if so can u tell us who it is or can't u legally divulge that to us.

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{Ed002's Note - He has a name but there is little point explaining - I have explained before.}

19 Jan 2019 17:55:26
I have so far supported Silva but have to say this current side look like one of the worst in the premiership. To many players just going through the motions. No goal threat and no creativity. No desire.
I won nearly a grand today because I bet on Southampton to win, why? Because I know this team will under perform and it's an easy bet. We always concede goals and have no reply.
Sad sad sad.

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19 Jan 2019 18:07:07
We were awful, no doubt, but betting money against your own team?!?! That's sad.

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{Ed0333's Note - I’m not sure how I feel about betting against you’re team it’s certainly given me something to ponder this weekend.

19 Jan 2019 18:56:32
It's not only today we've been like this for weeks now ever since the Liverpool game. I said we would win our next 5 games, looks like I was only fooling myself.

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19 Jan 2019 20:50:05
Agree with the others Woeburn, betting against your own side, really!

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20 Jan 2019 00:25:57
Ducks clear your head it's easy money mate if you watch them enough. I can almost predict the score.

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19 Jan 2019 17:55:06
If that doesn't prove we need a good out and out striker then nothing will. Think and improved number 10 is needed too.

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19 Jan 2019 17:39:43
Oh Dear Oh Dear Oh Dear. Take nothing away from Southampton, they had a game plan and it worked. We on the other hand looked like we have too many times this season, lost. We were guilty of giving the ball away far too easily and never really looked a threat. I still think we are good enough not to get dragged too far down, but if we carry on like this we will end up nearer to the relegation zone than where we should be. Improvements are desperately needed.

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19 Jan 2019 21:49:58
Let’s not forget they hit the woodwork twice and coming off the back of a midweek slog and extra time in the cup, where there for the taking today and yet again none of our players up to the challenge, unfit and clueless.

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19 Jan 2019 17:06:44
We ain't going down so maybe time for experiments. Maybe different formations and playing some kids to give them experience and see if they good enough.

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19 Jan 2019 17:13:15
Good point GeoffJohno. Thing is like every other Manager there are 5 of that Team, that will retain their place and that is the 5 brought in by the current, that is human nature. You are right, we cannot go down but looking at how we play now, it could be touch and go whether we get to 40 points. My opinion (another one I did not want from day one) , Martinez was much better than Silva and he had to go with us in 11th.

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19 Jan 2019 17:02:45
poor game that, we wer sloppy, richarlison IS NOT a center forward gomes has been poor for weeks now, yhere first goal was great second was a fluck sometimes that happens but we had enough ov the ball to win that game with ease, DCL uptop next game is a must.

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19 Jan 2019 17:57:42
Seventy percent possession first half apparently. I was gobsmacked by that stat considering how sloppy we were.

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19 Jan 2019 17:00:39
Everton continue to ruin the weekend, jesus I love the club but the football we are playing is not good enough we’re so predictable to play against besides from Richarlison and maybe Bernard or Lookman at times we have nobody who can take on players and beat them. I honestly don’t think we have the players we are a very averag team and we need to sign a striker because Richarlison is anonymous up front, that result today is heartbreaking we made Southampton look good today. I will always support Everton but for go sake BIG improvements are needed.

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{Ed0333's Note - I honestly think you need a new spine. Keeper, domineering central midfielder and a front man. I’d even say a Centre half. Silva is being found out and I’m not sure he is the messiah maybe just a very naughty boy.

19 Jan 2019 17:17:27
ED0333 or any of the Ed's in the know or an inkling. Do any of you know on what evidence or advice Silva was hired, was it a pre-requisite of getting Brands (I. E. Silva was his choice) . This is his third Club in the Premiership, he does not appear to have the consistencey or stamina beyond 6 months.

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{Ed001's Note - Moshiri was advised to get Silva, not sure on what grounds because he had shown nothing to suggest he is a good choice, but then this is the club who have promoted Brands despite his recruitment so far being awful.}

19 Jan 2019 17:20:48
I thing we need a decent manager and not a proven failure in Silva. The players are getting worse under him and his coaches.

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{Ed0333's Note - I think he’ll be gone in the summer.

19 Jan 2019 17:59:00
I hate to say Ed0333 but if things don't improve drastically you may be right.

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{Ed0333's Note - it’s a real shame because a strong Everton team is
A real boost for the city. I do fear for Silva as Moshiri is a bit no nonsense and won’t think too long about issuing Silva his P45 I’f results don’t improve

19 Jan 2019 18:02:05
Without wishing to be knee jerk, why wait until Summer. As others have said, we cannot go down. Silva will not improve us that is patently evident and should be to even the most ardent of those desperate not to be proven wrong. Bring Unsy in again, he will bring in a couple of the U23's, try a different pattern. With Brands directing all things football at the Club, this will give him time to send out his feelers and scouts, instead of rushing around in the Summer Window. Benitez for me should be top of the list.

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{Ed0333's Note - I endorsed the appointment of Benitez after Fat Scam got the chop I agree with you mate Rafa would be a wonderful appointment for Everton. No chance you’ll get him mid season tho.

19 Jan 2019 21:46:38
Not sure what any manager could do, there’s a desease running through Goodison, we have gone through, Martinez, Koeman, Unsworth, big Sam, and now Silva, not one of those can get a tune out of our squad.

Sign a centre forward, put Richarlison back on the left, Lookman on the right and scrap the zonal marking is a start, rest Gomes or Siggerson, and bring McCarthy in for the cup game.

If Silva does not bring a striker in before the summer, it could be too late by then.

Have backed Silva, but he needs to kick his plan b in, stop picking players who are not doing it on the pitch, play Calvert Lewin in the middle, if we cannot land a striker.

Silva knows he has to do something and quick, getting a striker in, and putting McCarthy in the middle is a start.

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19 Jan 2019 16:40:40
Maybe we can challenge for the top 6 in the Championship in 2 years.

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19 Jan 2019 17:02:01
Not yet mate team way out of Sync.

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19 Jan 2019 17:07:51
That might be league 1 top 6 New Blue lol.

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19 Jan 2019 17:14:40
The season as a competitive entity is long over. Should we bench our loaners and play the youth (DCL on top with Lookman and Ricky right and left) ; sell Gana for cash, play Davies, and let Kenny, Digne, Kean, and Mina on the back. Will Gomes and Zumba want to be here next year? If no, then we may be better off blooding the young players. Let Bernard try as a number 10.

This would be better than loaning the rest of the youth out. Maybe we can have a foundation for next year.

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19 Jan 2019 17:17:55
I had Liverpool and Crystal Palace up on the main television while watching Everton on my iPhone. Crystal Palace went toe to toe with Liverpool and played very well. I don’t even see is beating Crystal Palace.

We have no energy. We have no spirit. We are very boring. There’s always next year.

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19 Jan 2019 17:20:13
Kind of David Moyes boring sans victories.

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19 Jan 2019 16:39:54
We are awful.

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19 Jan 2019 16:24:32
Richarlison is s###t.

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19 Jan 2019 17:03:55
Was thinking the same. He is awful. I never liked him atall. But there again the whole rteam is awful atm.
We have no urgency because we're taught to. Play this slow build up play from the back rubbish.
One touch forward passes.
How many times do Everton hit passes behind a player?

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19 Jan 2019 16:04:02
I've just one word for that first half display; abysmal! We are second best all over the park and it looks like we are the ones who played 120+ minutes midweek. Our passing and ball control is awful and we need to improve big time second half or we will get nothing from this game.

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19 Jan 2019 17:22:58
So big H you are criticising now about time, things will get worse under your massia Silva so get ready to criticise a lot more.

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19 Jan 2019 19:42:55
I can only assume the Eds found the first reply I sent a little too offensive Dark Clouds so let's try again. I very often criticise the team when they deserve it, unlike you who takes every opportunity to have a dig, and I'll continue to do so without your permission. As for Silva being my Messiah I never claimed he was so I suggest you get your facts right DUH!

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19 Jan 2019 12:35:06
Tricky game today against a somewhat rejuvenated Southampton side. Since Hasenhüttl took over from Hughes they have played better and they have some dangerous players who know how to score. So here's hoping we can keep it tight enough at the back while being confident enough to put away any chances that come our way. No prediction, I just hope we have a good game and come home with the 3 points. COYB!

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19 Jan 2019 14:04:10
Will be tough BigH mate, even though they had a long game on Wednesday night against Derby in the Cup that went to extra time and they lost on pens, i think we have enough though to beat them, we seem better away from home.

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19 Jan 2019 12:24:51
Just read Marco's article on the Everton website and if you ignore the usual platitudes and drill down to the core content he must be watching different games in terms of his comments on player performances.
He is saying Sigurdsson and Richarlison's telling passes changed the game in our favour against Bournmpouth.
Lookman was the most incisive in terms of passing by a country mile, followed by Bernard. Siggy and Ricky weren't at the races.
Whilst we all appreciate when Sigurdsson is on his game he is up there with the best but he has been woeful for the last half dozen games and should be rested, but that's not going to happen boys after reading Marco's comments.

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19 Jan 2019 15:56:43
Agree about Sigurdsson, not doing much today, now half-time.

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Premier League Match Previews for 19 January 2019

19 Jan 2019 09:54:10
{Ed's Note - Reid the Red has posted a new article entitled, Premier League Match Previews for 19 January 2019

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19 Jan 2019 08:02:02
Everton would be better to promote Fraser Hornsby and Ellis Simms instead of taking a risk on buying a striker in this window, I've seen Simms and he looks a real talent
Why not promote them? Richarlison, Tosun, Calvern Lewin haven't really been a success in that position, if they don't get a chance now then I believe they never will.

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19 Jan 2019 09:47:11
I am sure Uran mate that Marco and Marcel knows what's best for us.

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19 Jan 2019 10:03:42
Is Marco brave enough to take those kinds of risks Uran? Who knows? If we don't get someone in this window I think he may be forced to.

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19 Jan 2019 11:15:49
why would u risk simms now he's a baby in footballing terms he's only played a handfull of games for the 23s, i agree he looks good but let him mature instead of throwing him in he has a bad game and everyones on his back, whos he why didn't we sign someone you can see it now mate.
hornby on the other hand let him get fit again he's only played one game after surgery and then get him on the bench between now and end of season see what he can do.

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19 Jan 2019 13:37:57
Brands I agree with GB. I have no idea given his stats why Silva is at our Club. Appears to me, he is an impact Coach/ Manager. It may be coincidence or more likely in my view it is methodology. Our Stats up to December and now are the same as Watford, under Silva's coaching. One thing it does put to bed though, is Watford's sacking of Silva and using us as the main reason, were way off the mark. If the guy improves and turns us round I will gladly eat my words, let's see, starting today, if we can at least get a draw at Southampton.

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19 Jan 2019 15:37:24
GB I am giving my opinion just like you give yours, I trusted in Marco and Brands to do what’s best for the club, just can’t see that a really good quality striker would be available in the January window hence give the youngsters a chance
DFS your comments have nothing in common with my post
Which I personally totally disagree with and sincerely hope you eat your words.

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Review Of The Day 19th January 2019

19 Jan 2019 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 19th January 2019

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