Everton Banter Archive November 17 2014

 

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17 Nov 2014 20:58:42
Is it just me or is Roy Keane being a complete person at the moment?
I've just read some of his remarks in relation to JMc and Seamus and can't believe the arrogance of the man.
Isn't this the same man who walked out on his country after he spat his dummy out?
And now he has the gall to question Roberto, one of the most respected managers in the premier league.

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{Ed025's Note - hes a total prick RIB mate..

Strange because he had quite a lot of good things to say about everton in his book, I actually just think he says stuff for the sake of being heard at times coupled with their defeat I would take it with a pinch of salt

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18 Nov 2014 13:50:39
His beloved utd never exaggerated players fitness for international breaks.

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17 Nov 2014 18:45:38
Wow! Get yourselves on Yahoo on have a look at Ryan Ledson's 45 yard free kick for England Under 18's. Awesome.

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17 Nov 2014 20:37:57
Has anyone got a link for this? I've had a look around and can't find one anywhere .

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{Ed025's Note - i just typed in...ryan ledson free kick on google and it comes up mate..

It looks to me like he's overhit the free kick that he's aimed for the forwards to attack in the air and the goalie has misjudged it and the ball has ended up in the net. It's great that he scored, but it doesn't look to me like he meant it - but what do I know!
:-)

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{Ed025's Note - i think your right sid..

I think it was a accident but he got some almighty curl on it.I'm looking forward to seeing him break into the 1st team.I think he is one of the best youngsters we have atm.

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19 Nov 2014 12:45:41
does anyone know ryan ledsons natural position. Thinking about who needs replacing in the current first team in the next couple of years, the only two the wrong side of 30 I would presume is Barry or Pienaar. Can ledson play in either of these positions, bearing in mind I would expect Oviedo to replace Pienaar's role in the near future if not already, so it leaves barry the player I would say in the current system who is to be replaced in the next couple of seasons, granted we have Gibson and besic to fill this role aswell, would Ryan jump these two as a starting midfielder?

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17 Nov 2014 16:07:19
Ed001:
Here are a few suggestions for voting polls. My apologies if you've already had them.

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{Ed007's Note - That's great, Sid, cheers. I've passed them onto Ed001.}

17 Nov 2014 16:30:53
Given the comments on international matches. Would people be happy with Ross playing against Scotland, given how ferocious these games can get.

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17 Nov 2014 19:01:15
Id rather none of our players played at all, ever.

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18 Nov 2014 19:34:36
Swan even if Everton have a game you don't want them to play good that's what they r doing this season then.

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17 Nov 2014 11:28:18
Could you set up a few polls please ed?

Who do you care about more, your club or your country?
Club. Country.

Are you over the moon with leon osmans new contract?
Yes. No.

Do we need a new goalkeeper?
Yes. No.

When John Stones returns, should he go straight back in the first team?
Yes. No.

Cheers if possible ed

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{Ed001's Note - ok mate will add those to the Poll Of The Day list. And thank you, it is always good to have some sent in.}

I think I can guess what your answers might be, Swan, and I reckon most posters will agree with you. ;-)

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17 Nov 2014 09:39:47
Should we stop playing international football (that is between nations, not between clubs) at odd times throughout the season and just play the international matches at the end of the season or, perhaps, also during a mid-season (Winter) break?
Maybe we could also reduce the qualifying stages by having smaller groups or perhaps have the 'lesser' nations have a knockout pre-group-stage and then also make the finals more of a knockout competition?
Either way, I'd prefer to see less of the (often) meaningless, (sometimes) uninteresting, international football and more genuinely competitive (i.e. more knockout, fewer group matches against minnows) international football than at present.
In my humble opinion, the current scattering of international breaks for the UEFA Euro 2016 qualifying campaign is just too disruptive and the effect on players (risk of injury, disruption of familiar rest/recovery routines, loss of time that could be spent training and practising with their clubs, travelling and time away from families, etc.) is not conducive to good club preparation.
I appreciate that the international players wouldn't benefit from this breaks (as they'd obviously be playing!) - but I guess most clubs would play friendlies anyway using their other players - and the international matches would overlap with the transfer windows, but it might work out for all concerned. Of course UEFA and FIFA like all of these international matches because of the revenue (especially television) they generate and they're unlikely to give that up!
I'm sure more fans follow their clubs to a greater degree than their countries. I'm not saying they're not passionate and patriotic, but I'm pretty sure that the clubs come first for the vast majority of fans.
By all means keep international football - although personally I wouldn't miss it that much (I find the international club completions much more interesting in general) - and I do accept that most fans want to keep the World Cup, etc. - but I just want to make it less disruptive to the club seasons and the club players.
What do you reckon?

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17 Nov 2014 11:20:31
Id love to see an end between international football full stop, what's the point in playing estonia, san marino, hungary and greece twice, its easy qualifying all building up to a tournament that ends as quickly as it begins, the world cups alright, have that every 4 years, to qualify? what's the point, the same teams qualify each time. Just have the top 32 nations on fifas list play in the world cup, instead of 2 years of 4 nils against opposition whose team consists of part time waiters, bartenders and chefs, its incredibly boring and does nothing but affect premier league clubs (the important thing), keep the world cup and don't play any matches ever until the world cup itself, so annoying and pointless, in the time international breaks are supposed to happen? Give the players a break, scrap it full stop bar world cup

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Nice one, Swan.
Maybe having each confederation (like UEFA) having their own championship played over two Summer breaks and the top sides from there then playing in a FIFA World Cup over the alternate two years (qualifying one Summer, then playing the finals during the next Summer) might work. Use a Winter break for tournaments in the Southern Hemisphere or places with too hot Summers. Otherwise, no meaningless international football - let the club competitions take precedence.

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Before I start, I will state that I understand that other people have different views to me. I guess I am "old school" with my views. I actually love England and see England internationals as the pinnacle of football in this country. I love watching England play (sometimes) and even more so if we have some Everton players involved. However, I see the Champions League as a money making scheme invented by UEFA in order to grow football around the world and not particularly for the benefit of the majority of clubs. only a few elite clubs benefit who once involved are almost guaranteed to have a 50 million cheque each season. I do understand the need for a top club competition. I just think the Champions League has been promoted to the point of taking over. I would rather see more England internationals and less Champions League stuff. That's my view and sorry if it upsets a few.

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I'm with you degsy.

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17 Nov 2014 18:59:10
And world cups are a money making scheme by fifa, it works both ways, heres a question, england win a world cup or everton win 10 champions leagues and 10 premier leagues in the next 20 years

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Sorry Swan, I knew my view would irk you. I can't help it, I admit I am different to most, but I would love England to win the World Cup again in my lifetime. I would also love Everton to win one Champions League in my lifetime. Or the Premiership. In reality I am running out of time, but history says Everton are due a trophy. As for England, unless we host the competition, things look bleaker.

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17 Nov 2014 09:36:21
Not all about Everton but could have implications on playing meaningless Internationals.

Europe to get out of FIFA. Seed the best teams and the drawcards. Say 12 and the remainder play in qualifying matches. Go around the world and get another 20 teams using the same criteria.

That means bye bye FIFA, brings interesting international football played where the action is.

Clubs would be happy too and have the clout to make it happen!

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Read my post below.
I agree with what you say but I would use the moment to get out of FIFA.

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17 Nov 2014 02:46:19
Keane is shouting the odds about Everton withdrawing players from the Irish team. Everton pay their wages, thus, if there is any doubt about their fitness, they don't play, it really is that simple.I pay to see them play, fully fit, against w/ham, not semi fit or out altogether. So Mr keane, do your job, and leave r/m to do his, they will play if everton say they are fit, keep your nose out our clubs management.

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God I can't stand that obnoxious Irish Bully.

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Totally agree, guys. When there was talk of Keane joining us a few years ago I was in a real quandary - how could I applaud or cheer that cowardly thug? Luckily it didn't happen. Maybe we should ask big Duncan to have a quiet word with him. Maybe not - Keane would just run away from him like he used to do on the pitch!

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Did he not walk out on the irish team

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{Ed001's Note - amazing how that gets forgotten, that he walked out on his country because he didn't get his way, like a 5 year old taking his ball in.}

By the way, that stunt was invented by his old boss at old trafford

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