Everton Banter Archive June 17 2012
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17 Jun 2012 23:12:54
What's the latest on manny fernandes ed? {Ed025's Note - nothing new mate...just speculation..
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Don't he supposedly say he was making his decision soon. AntEFC
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That was a fake Twitter account mate
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The guy who made the fake account gave it away when he said that fernandes was staying as besiktas...
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17 Jun 2012 22:55:12
Can't wait to see more of barkley next season, it is his time to break through into the team.
Ste EFC {Ed025's Note - i agree ste
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17 Jun 2012 22:51:35
(budget 24 million) sell rodwell 13 million and cahill 6 million bk will give moyes additional 5 million for him to stay.
team:
gk:howard
rb:naughton 4 million
cb:heitinga
cb:jagielka
lb:baines
cdm:gibson
lm:pienaar 4 million
rm:johnson 9 million
cam:fellaini
st:cardozo 7 million
st:jelavic
bench:
mucha
a free
distin
osman
barkley
hibbert
neville
coleman
Efc Peter (finish 5th) COYB!
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Not sure where you get ur figures from Pete. Cahill £6M?? Rodwell £13M?? And City have already stated if Johnson goes it will be for £15M, not a penny less and no loan deal
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Who in the right mind is going to pay 6 million for Cahill?
Mike {Ed025's Note - no one mike..
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17 Jun 2012 22:23:14
Pienaar is the key, and if we can get someone to do the same down the right, im gonna go with 4th for us next season
Ste EFC
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We wont get 4th not matter if we get Pienaar and somebody for the right as our squad is just not big enough. {Ed025's Note - oh ye of little faith..
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My r/s senses are tingling....
Dave
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17 Jun 2012 20:55:47
Just started using this website, and think everyone should stop panicking. Moyes is staying, pienaar is coming, splash the cash on adam johnson and champions league next season.
Gazzabluenose son of degsybluenose
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Welcome Gazzabluenose! I hope your right about Moyes, Pienaar and Johnson, I would be made up with that mate.
Everton Al.
PS. Any news on Naismith Ed? I hope we see him with an Everton shirt on next season. {Ed025's Note - this liquidation process at rangers is holding things up al...hopefully it will be sorted soon..
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Naismith is worth waiting for, he will be class for us. Nice to see you back ed025
Bez the blue {Ed025's Note - cheers bez...my hollipops are over now..
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Don't you mean 'Club 12' Ed?
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Where've you been ed025? AntEFC {Ed025's Note - to spain for a week ant.
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Lucky for some you enjoy it. AntEFC {Ed025's Note - it was ok mate..but i would not recommend lloret de mar..
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Why wouldn't you recommend it? AntEFC {Ed025's Note - our hotel was full of german students, who played football in the corridors at 4 am..
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At risk of turning this fine forum into 'Wish you were here', isn't that N.Spain? Stayed at Blanes a number of years ago and were plagued by all the t**t bikers from Lloret! BlueTone {Ed025's Note - thats the next resort tone..
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Lol guess you don't like staying up late then ed. antEFC {Ed025's Note - not at my age mate...but a few years ago, i would be joining in...lol
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Lol I'm 15 this month I would have stayed up the night and joined in. AntEFC
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We stayed at the Orange Hotel. They only spoke Spanish or Dutch! At least I knew how to order 2 beers! BlueTone {Ed025's Note - thats all the language i need tone..
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I can speak a bit of Spanish not much though... AntEFC
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17 Jun 2012 20:24:13
Some people want Kenwright cause hes a blue... But if his own board dont trust him with money like a previous poster said, then there must be something wrong with him behind closed doors
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That poster was just a kenwright hater. If he was not trusted by the board, believe me he wouldn't be at the club.......
TC
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17 Jun 2012 20:19:13
Fellaini and Baines would have agreed a deal by now as there is meant to be loads of teams after them! But they are going no where neither is moyes!
BlueNose1878!
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17 Jun 2012 19:48:40
Sure it would be great if Sir Blue Beatle McCartney took over the club. Even greater if DM got a Mancini sized kitty. Wish all you want but what is real:
Keep Fellaini and Baines - Good
Add Pienaar and Naismith - Excellent
Bonus one more skilled attacker - As good as it gets
If you aren't happy with that you have my sympathy because you are destined to be disillusioned frustrated and blue.
Proud and Happy Blue
(my one vice is hoping for a decent fing start to the season)
Big Bald Blue
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If that's your one and only vice BBB then I'm checking into the priory mate. Def agree with your post and def share your vice too
Toffee ace
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You have just said exactly what I would like and that my friend would be the perfect summer
Blue kaz {Ed025's Note - it would..
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Good point Ace, it should have been one of my insignificant these aren't the go to hell kind of vices. But I'd give up a few of those for a good start.
BBB
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17 Jun 2012 19:22:25
I know Jelavic was a hit at Goodison but dont expect anything from Naismith if he arrives at Everton. Well past his best and im sure even Everton should be aiming higher {Ed001's Note - well past his best? He is 25 and was having a brilliant season until he got injured, without a doubt the best player in Scotland last season. And yes, that does include Jelavic! So long as he recovers well from his injury, he would be a superb signing, Rangers' season fell apart purely because they lost him.}
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17 Jun 2012 18:52:04
EDS, IVE GOT A QUESTION 4 YA?
IF MOYESY, IS SIGNING THIS NEW CONTRACT (IMHO HE WILL) AND HES GETTIN A "PAY RISE", HOW IS BILL GETTIN THE MONEY 4 THAT AND POSSIBLY NOT ABLE 2 GIVE MUCH IN THE WAY OF TRANSFER KITTY. IVEHERD THAT THERE IS A POSS 15MIL ASWEL AS THE PAY RISE.....
THOUGHTS EDS ????????
TIMMYEFC {Ed025's Note - pie in the sky as far as im concerned timmy... but i would love you to be right..
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Corrie money toffs {Ed001's Note - also, Bill has been producing a new show, that has been touring the country, that will have brought in significant money. I have seen posters for it in a number of towns, from Cheltenham to London to Blackpool!}
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Personally i feel its more important to give moyes the pay rise than to have a decent transfer budget. give him what he wants then reasses the budgets i say
cropper
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17 Jun 2012 18:28:19
Here is a tip for you. Everton leave their business till the last minute so they do not have to pay a salary. Its as simple as that! We will probably see our first towards the end of July!
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Strongly disagree. Everton are probably gonna move quickly and get their business done asap to meet pre season friendly deadlines etc. I expect the Pienaar deal to be wrapped up within the next few weeks and a few buys to be made in the first few weeks of the window opening. Moyes is in Poland as we speak probably tapping up available talents as he always does. He rarely fails to disappoint so have a bit more faith in him eh? Unless you're a closet red in which case bob off back to your own site and discuss how much you want Cavani, Ramirez, De Jong, Walcott, Johnson and Sigurdson but as usual only get one.
The cheek of people these days.
MikeyBlueNose
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Moyes is mancherster bbc have knot gone to poland yet
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Moyes is going out to euros to watch croatia game apparently came back early off hols to talk with Bill
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17 Jun 2012 17:14:44
Why don't Everton try for Pavel Pogrebnyak he's available for free, he must be the sort of player Moyes will definitely look at he would provide good cover for Jelavic too. What you think Ed? {Ed025's Note - i think his name is too difficult to pronounce..
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Po-greb-knee-yak... Easy!
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There are some good players out there on a free ,if we have no money lets get some whats the problem
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If we have no money , there are a lot of good free transfers in the uk and europe so we should be able to get some in
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17 Jun 2012 16:55:17
Afternoon fellow toffees.
After mulling over the recent transfer speculation and Moyes' shrewd suggestion to Kenwright, I reckon a prosperous summer is lying ahead. Just as a little challenge I set myself, I tried to pick a decent starting XI for next season and here's my honest results.
GK:Howard.
RB:Hibbert.
CB:Heitinga.
CB:Jagielka.
LB:Baines.
RM:Naismith.
CM:Gibson.
CAM:Fellaini.
LM:Pienaar.
CF:Mandzukic.
CF:Jelavic.
In my honest opinion easily a squad that could challenge for a top 4 any day of the week and well within our restraints. The way Hibbert performed towards the end of the last season was no cause for concern. He's a more than reasonable RB with tremendous crossing ability. If we can get Mandzukic for £6-7m, Pienaar for £3-4m max and Naismith (depending on the SFA) for £2m (or free, both work!) then we're not overspending and bolstering our squad in the process. That combined with a cheeky free (Rodellega, Moses maybe?) and the typical January loan signing (Donovan of course) I see us hitting the season full on in the face and hopefully finishing in the top 4. Your thoughts Ed?
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Hard one to call Ed. I like Mandzukic as I believe he poses more of an aerial threat than Jelavic but I understand where you're coming from. With guidance from Moyes I reckon they could work together in differing roles (maybe Mandzukic playing just behind Jelavic so he can link up with Fellaini and Pienaar respectively). Sadly good attacking options are so rare to come by. I like the thought of Cardozo it's just his price tag. A cost effective bargain basement striker would do us great like Hooper maybe? Up to debate I guess.
MikeyBlueNose
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I keep saying Mandzukic and Jelavic are too similar, hence going for the same balls in the Euros. We need a sharp nippy partner for Jelavic JP {Ed025's Note - i agree mate..
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Your saying there both are going for the same ball.thats a good thing, but from what i have seen thats good, does that not mean they are both hungry for goals? and is that want you want in striker??
well thats what i thought...
the Yak lost his hunger, so did saha, and big vic seems not to have the hunger because of injurys,
well thats my thought
y0rksh1re_blue
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Hate the way papers keep linking us with unproven players. League 1 to the premier league is a hell of a step up. Even Beckford struggled keeping pace. Sure he was fast but his end product was awful. Strikers like Rhodes aren't our class quite yet. Realistically players from Italy, Spain, Portugal etc could fit in quite well and adjust reasonably fast (of course there's gonna be a settling in period unless your names Kroldrup). The price quoted for Mandzukic was £7m but as stated in my previous post we could pick up Cardozo for around a million more. He's strong, physical and always fighting for the ball. Surely worth a punt especially as Benfica aren't willing to renew his contract? Thoughts guys and Ed? {Ed025's Note - i cant see us having that sort of money mate...he is a very good player...but out of our price range i fear..
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17 Jun 2012 16:29:17
Getting a bit restless now, the likes of West Ham and Southampton are making bids and bringing players in already, and yet Everton are really quiet. I've been scowering the entire web looking for a proper legitimate signing Everton are hopin to pull in, but there's not one to be found. They haven't even said anything about Naismith, which is worrying. Just looking for some reassuring news sources.
QatariBlue (formerly Aadam)
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Calm down the season only finished last month most players are on holiday or international duties you are aware that the euros are on, your like a kid that can't wait to go to the park also where is money for transfers everton have said many times we don't have much funds what part of that don't you understand
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Mate david moyes is not going to start saying who we are after because other clubs will go in for them,the transfer window doest open until 1st july so dont panic and calm down or look at are everton badge and be happy you support the greatest team with the greatest manager/players and the best fans ever,we are everton and we will be everton forever.Terry blue
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Got to say i am to, first someone comes and says we have 20million pounds and now a post comes and says we 30 million pounds im getting a bit restless now how much is our transfer budget and the players we are signing
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@bigjella: nobody knows except moyes and the board. So don't believe any amount until one of them speak about it.
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17 Jun 2012 16:09:44
Keep Moyes, Keep Fellaini, Keep Baines. Try to get Pienaar and Naismith in perfect summer. Ed what's going on with the Naismith deal I've heard the Scottish FA have stopped rangers players leaving? {Ed025's Note - its very confusing mate, with the liquidator situation...we will have to bide our time..
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17 Jun 2012 16:09:32
I think Nike/Kitbag missed a trick with the new shirt. If they'd decided on a release date of say, the 10th June, how many happier Father's would there have been today?? BlueTone {Ed025's Note - you missed your vocation tone ...you should have been in promotions mate, that would have been a great idea..
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Yeh some fathers day that would be buying kits for all the kids...thanks
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17 Jun 2012 16:03:03
I would love to see the damage Moyes could do with some transfer funds!
Irish Blue
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17 Jun 2012 13:48:07
All I can say is lets hope this Spurs thing goes away. Obviously a biased view but upset Lineker refers to them as bigger club or its a bigger job, like they are a regular top 4 club. They have had a couple of good seasons thanks to our old friend Redknapp but thats about it. They've won nothing and got no where really for all the talk of being a bigger clubs than ours! It would be a bad move for him in my view, its not a step up at all. I could not argue if it was a genuine step up to a bigger club than ours but its not. But for a ref decision we may have made C.L football as well, other than that we have been in Europe faily regularly and been to semi's and finals.
Lets all pull together and not have the distractions of last years pre-season and early season amongst ourselves, that didnt help the club at all at the time, we need a good positive start. If we can add a couple of decent players and keep David at the club we are on the brink of something special. Forget worrying about the ground, money etc. We have a manager capable of overcoming those things. Lets concentrate on the players and staff we have got and drive it on.
I for one cannot wait for next season and look forward to supporting the team home and away with all of you in full terrifying voice! COYB. {Ed025's Note - really good post that mate...it would have been better if you had put a name to it though..
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I agree mate but moyes and the fans do there job every season it is now time for the board to stand up and do theres and show some ambition then we wont have to worry about losing moyes and players i think we will have moyes for 1 more season at least . but this board have got to get up of there arses and start showing us fans they want this club competing for trophies again like every one of us .stef the blue {Ed025's Note - well put stef..
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He said they have a bigger budget than everton which ias true they dont opperate on a shoe string which is probally why moyes doesnt interest them as hes not used to spending money
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17 Jun 2012 13:05:24
I hope Moyes stays put and after seeing him on the beeb last night speaking about loyalty I feel a little better today......now it's down to old Bill to show some loyalty to Moyes and work his rear end off to get Moyes the funds he needs......Like I said I feel a little better but if Moyes doesn't leave for spurs and Bill does the dirty by shafting him with little funds after he stays when the next big club to come a knocking Moyes will walk...... {Ed025's Note - i tend to agree..
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Surs arnt after moyes they have someone else in mind i think it will be hard to better what rednapp has donetaking them from the bottom for 2top 4 finishes howevergets the job wont be there long 11 in a11 years willo
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17 Jun 2012 11:38:45
our board are millionares why the hell can they not give moyes 3 to 5 mill each out of there own pockets they will get it back if we finish 4th .stef the blue {Ed025's Note - how true that is stef...these people get the prestige of being associated with the club, yet contribute zilch!, its not just bills fault..
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Spot on ed i think its time the blue union targeted them more often not just bill ps im not a b.u member just a concernd fan . stef the blue
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The reason why their millionaires mate is because they dont splash the cash thats why clubs like brum and pompey have gone under because they spent money they dont have {Ed025's Note - we dont want them to spend money that they dont have..just some of the money they DO have..
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Love too know how deep green is into everton because he has some serious dosh
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Granchester is a billionaire, but I believe isn't comfortable handing money over with Bill at the helm.
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If he's that uncomfortable with bill, why doesn't he buy the club himself? I know it's probably not that simple, but he knows what the clubs worth, he knows what the club owes bill, so is there a reason he doesn't buy? Is it that he's not that interested in running a club, or he knows how much money is really needed to turn the club around, and I don't just mean the playing side. The debts, new stadium etc. blue Lee
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Is Grantchester a billionaire? I know the Moores family are rumoured to be worth £1.5 billion, but I don't think Grantchester is worth anything like that. We really need a billionaire who isn't afraid to take a financial hit in the short term, and there aren't many of those about. {Ed025's Note - worth £1.2 billion...and as tight as a ducks arse..
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17 Jun 2012 07:16:49
ed is this true that villas boas has signed a three year deal with spuds??
BIGJELLA {Ed025's Note - not yet jella...he is favourite, but nothing confirmed..
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17 Jun 2012 01:12:15
Just been reading talksport website (no not for rumours they suck at those) but looking at the list of prem clubs and the Pounds spent per points gained surprisingly spurs are the best with only 91k per point gained Everton are thrid best with 187k per point guess who is second worst .... yes the RS with a staggering 1.21 milion spent per point only chelsea are worse than them
makes me very prous of the boys efforts last year roll on the new season COYB!!
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17 Jun 2012 00:02:08
I like lots of others heard the comments made by David Moyes to Gary Linacre,and my opinion is definitely now I don't think Moyes would go to Spurs because he made it very plain that he thought the treatment of Harry Redknapp by the Spurs Board was dispicable ! Why would he want to work for people who treat their manager that badly? Give the man some money Mr Kenwright to keep us competitive and respect Moyes for the brilliant manager he is.
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