Everton Banter Archive February 16 2014

16 Feb 2014 21:09:41
come on you Naismith haters slag him off now, hard worker, scores goals, but not the finished article or a messi but he plays for EFC so get supporting him

{Ed025's Note - here here griff..

Haters will always hate mate. I'm a big fan of his, aways have been. But just wait till he misses a chance or does something that isn't quite perfect. Those haters will be back.

I was probably his biggest 'hater', all of last season, but he's certainly doing a good job of changing my opinion. Still don't think he's got the technical ability to play in the Premier League, but his work rate and smart movement are really shining through and his finishing has really improved, so I'm happy to have him as part of the team.

This isn't La Liga you know mate you don't need great technical ability to play in the premier league. I can't remember Cahill having great technical ability, but we all loved him. I feel sorry for Naisey as it seems his face doesn't fit and never will no matter what he does.

There's a difference between 'not having great technical ability', like Cahill, and having no technical ability, like Naismith HAD (0 successful take-ons in a SEASON, as a winger. Ross had 8 against Chelsea in one game). Work rate can get you some distance in this league, but not into the top half (just ask Beckford). I've heard about Naismith having just come back from injury last season, so if that explains why now he is starting to demonstrate technical ability now, then that's fine. Either way, he's proving me wrong, and I'm glad.

The reason he had 0 successful take ons in a season is because he's not a winger pure and simple, so it's a bit unfair to throw that at him. As Long as Bobby continues playing him centrally then we will have a very good player on our hands. The lads confidence is growing every game. So long it may continue.

I will never understand where the criticism came from. Firstly, he joined us (for buttons) having had one of the worst injuries a footballer can have. He's scored vital poachers goals against Liverpool and Chelsea, he always puts in 100%, he wins every header he goes for, he has good natural attacking movement and is a natural born finisher. From the moment I saw him in pre season this year it looked like he meant businesses. He was by far our sharpest player after the summer break and seems to have gained the respect of most of the players. The fans who groan at him on a match day make me want to go and punch them in the face, such is my anger at seeing them turn on our own. Especially one giving his all. Yet Mirallas can skin 2 or 3 and miss blatant passes in his selfish way, blaze one over the bar and get applauded.

16 Feb 2014 21:01:18
Constantly Naismith is slagged off on here and okay guys I know he's probably not the best striker we've ever signed but if he had been bought in the transfer window and was Spanish his goal scoring feats over the last month would have us purring.
He was free, he gives a 100% and he's bloody better than 'Bernie the Bolt' (young ones ask Dad) so give the lad some slack please!

{Ed025's Note - im with you mushy,the guy gives 100% every time he plays, ok, so hes not the most gifted player i have ever seen, but i would take him over these over paid over hyped prima-donnas any day!...i have always championed the guy, i hope the rest of the guys who ridicule him see him for what he really is...an honest hard working professional, who wears the shirt with pride, oh how i wish they all showed the same committment..

Workrate aside I wasn't a massive fan of his last year. Thought his first touch was poor and he didn't offer much. That could have been down to not being suited playing out wide, getting used to the premiership, lack of confidence etc. This season however he has looked a different player. Never going to set the world alight, but has an eye for goal, works his socks off and can be used in a number of positions. Has made himself a very valuable asset for us.

He had been out with a serious injury, so last year was too early to judge him. This is the real Naismith now. I think he is quality. I was at Chelsea last game of the season last year and he was our MOM by a mile.
Degsypulford

He also has never had a run of games.
mushy I remember being very embarrassed about seeing Bernie in a blue shirt. by far the worst EFC player ever

16 Feb 2014 18:39:42
Is it me or is jags woeful on the ball. He can't pass and nearly looses the ball every time by either his lack of skill or him waiting far too long to make a decision. Since the game against the red rubbish he has just got worse. On the other hand, Naismith looked a new man today. Really improved his game.

{Ed039's Note - Didnt Naismith get injured?)

Jags has never been comfortable on the ball. He is however one of the best readers of the game and can step in with a tackle or block. That is one reason as to why we have one of the best defensive records in the premiership.
Degsypulford

Concussed.didnt even remember scoring

16 Feb 2014 19:53:29
Naismith did get injured but he scored, got us a penalty and when he came on we looked much more of a threat. And as for jags I agree that he is good defensively but he makes me anxious when we have got the ball at the back.

{Ed039's Note - Naismith is a hard worker, always has been, and has an incredible spring for a guy who is probably shorter than Tom Cruise)

16 Feb 2014 17:05:14
Afternoon fellow blues.

Well we are through to last eight, but I have to say it was not a great performance for me. For an FA cup tie, we looked slow, pondering on the ball with a clear lack of movement. Credit to Swans they did press on us hard but we just looked. dare I say it unfit with no pace or vim.

A lot of the time we were 2nd to the ball especially in first half.

Credit to Naisy he changed the game. If you watch him he takes great positions around the box and has the ability to drift off defenders and find space.
Still no cutting edge for me and it may be down to a couple of players being a bit of key.

Nice to see Traore score, but evident that his 10 ft tall legs gave in after working pretty hard for an hour.

Hopefully Romelu will come back hungry and looking to get goals.

Unfortunately Joel did not instill me with confidence. He looks edgy every time ball is passed to him.

In the end job done, but we are going to have to tighten up at the back as too many holes starting to appear and I would have thought after the RS game lessons would have been learned.

Time to step on the gas again blues.

I said before the game that Howard should have started. To me Robles did not instil confidence in the back four and we looked vulnerable in the first half.
Traore took his debut goal well but offered little afterwards. He's got height but rarely looked like adding to his tally. Will he be started when Romelu returns? Can they start together?
I thought that Ossie had a good game as did Steven Naismith. He made the difference in the second half making great diagonal runs which eventually brought him his goal.
The main thing was we got past this tie and now face a difficult tie against Arsenal. At least the RS got beat which has made my night. We could and might have beaten Arsenal in the PL and certainly never disgraced ourselves so we are going to have to go there with confidence and hopefully a full strength squad to choose from.

16 Feb 2014 15:44:48
Why did I know number eight was comin out next?!

Let's look on the bright side, at least it's not city! Also our cup run has been fairly easy as of yet: QPR, Stevenage and Swansea, if we want to win the cup we are going to have to beat the best at some point! COYB

16 Feb 2014 15:31:38
"Martinez has done no better that Moyes last year. But he relies on loans. Building nothing" From RS. Why the pokes from the dark side? Are they concerned that their best has come too soon and likely to fade? EFC are not playing on all cylinders at the moment but every team goes through a few games of under achievement. I fancy in the next 13 games EFC are likely to cause others to comment favourably. A final comment. RM has done much more than Moyes of last year. More points at this stage, more TV coverage because of the complete change in pleasing attack/retain, further in the FA Cup. Need to go on? Now scurry down you dark hole Mr Gob. e!

Because LfC are in denial. Despite their derby win they are convinced that they've won not only 4th place but also the EPL. Tonight they were put back in their place by an Arsenal side that were looking to put right last week's result into perspective.
We've now got to face a difficult tie at the Emirates but let's not forget that we gained a draw after dominating the second half with Del Boy showing his ability against an Arsenal side s**t scared of him in the closing stages.

Who are LFC? Is that the team who haven't won a league for decades and decades despite spending 400+m in recent years? What have they built? Other than overhyped players' bank accounts.

16 Feb 2014 13:42:24
Listen to that amazing atmosphere at Goodison the home of that massive club who need loanees after loanees.

From a fan of a club that spent over £100 mill and are still crap.

Why do you care?

What round are spurs in?

How many titles have you won 2 is it? Ha what a joke. Come back when you've won 9. Although that will never happen.

Trust a spuds fan to come on here spouting rubbish. Look forward to spuds fa cup game.oh wait.100 mill spent and not in the competition. Now we laugh at you ha.

Maybe spuds should dip into loan market.try before you buy, then you lot wouldn't of wasted 30mill on a rubbish player like lamela.

16 Feb 2014 16:44:31
listen to the amazing atmosphere at white hart lane, oh wait you are not in the cup, lol, go to white hart lane on a match day, load of 30 year old virgins on their phone checking greggs is still open

You've been here before spouting this pathetic drivel. The loan market exists. Deal with it you ignorant person. If you don't like it, write a letter to Fifa asking them to change the rules just because some pathetic Spurs fan doesn't like it. Why are you even watching Everton? And why do you even post on here? Are you a closet blue?