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15 May 2013 22:18:16
with Chelsea winning does that free up 6th place in the league to qualify for next year's competition?
For the last time no
16 May 2013 00:21:14
no it doesn't
Dosent make sence to be honest it's rather stupid
FFS!!!!! I thought the vast majority of EFC fans were clued up! Jeez!!
15 May 2013 21:58:54
Extra place in Europe now Chelsea winning the Europa league if they finish in the top 4 in the premiership it means there will be a extra place what goes to 6th place
No it doesn't only 3 places available Arsenal or Spurs, Swansea and Wigan.
Swansea and Wigan in Europa. League dosent really look tht impressive for the. Europa league for England should really come down to league positions
It's abit stupid there would have been 4 English clubs in there anyway if Chelsea didn't finish in the top 4 what's the difference for 6th place not to get into Europe?
15 May 2013 22:11:10
Still can't get my head around the fact that Moyse will be wearing red next season. just isn't going to be the same! I think any appointment is going to be somewhat underwhelming certainly if the bookies favourites are anything to go by
Come on Bill let's have some excitement - one of the follwing 5 for me:
Laudrup
De Boer
Bergkamp
Solskjaer
Klinnsmann
Knowing our luck we will end up with Steve McClaren with Brett Angell as number two!
15 May 2013 21:47:48
I like Martinez he appears intelligent and articulate and if he is then he will now know that you have to have a solid defensive team to build from before the free flowing stuff happens.
He will need to change and become more thrifty!
Anyway credit where credits due Rafa B has just won the Europaleague! Give him his dues he's got a brilliant cv
Oscar Cardozo looks a decent player too. Once a target of ours?
Aw
15 May 2013 21:14:45
Martinez is the stand out candidate.
The players already have the moyes mentality, the defensive, body on the line, organisational ideology. If wigan were half as organised as Everton FC they would not be going down.
Couple that with a manager who knows how to promote fluid attacking football and we all know what's best for EFC. Roberto is intelligent and aspirational and his players love him, for me its an absolute no brainer.
Lets hope we get him, Stubbs, Neville, Ferguson et al would be an absolute disaster, they need to ply their trade with a lower league club first.
Cotswold Blue
Stand out, In what way?. How is he going to push our great club forward he is a backward step. I don't care what raffa said yrs ago at everton, it's about now. I believe he is the right man for the job!.
Yep, if Wigan were half as organised as Everton they wouldn't be going down.
I blame the manager!
Martinez out!
Oh the irony :)
Lets get this stand out candidate rubbish out in the open he won 37 prem games out of 151 in 4 years at wigan that's an average of 9 per season and he's your stand out candidate let's hope bk isn't on your wavelength or we will be right in the s*** let's change course for a moment he that's martinez says that he has had injuries well everyone else has but if your attacking football dose not include defensive duties I guess that's why he was at the bottom every season of his 4 year spell still think he's your stand out candidate??
Have to say I posted on here the day the moves rumour started. I asked the question "what about Rafa" I have to say I have and will support my team forever regardless of who bill picks. but of all the names being mentioned. based upon performance alone. Jose mourihno, Rafa Benitez, Alex ferguson, Gus hiddink, pep guardiola, ancelloti. they are all in the same group as far as I am concerned. ask yourselves this who is the most possible for everton? That's all I will say. jlaff
16 May 2013 02:10:38
For entertaining football it would be hiddink every time.
18 months ago I wonder how many would have been saying Holloway for the same reasons as Martinez.
Paul Lambert.
Dont be ridiculous, if martinez comes then he will bring in new players who have never played for moyes, so how would they have that defensive mentality?
15 May 2013 20:43:22
would love to see victor perinea as are new manager to show other team that we are moving forward and to show a statement of ambition for the board.
15 May 2013 20:40:47
If Wigan opt out of Europe which let's be honest they are not good enough to compete in that competition and if they want to come straight back up to the prem then Thursday night European games will be a distraction! Will the everton take there place?
Will more than likely go to the team with the highest fair play in the league, we do not want europe next season anyway, we don't have the squad and don't even have a manager
15 May 2013 20:39:46
I must say dave whelan is a prat. I was amused when he insulted Ian Ayer and liverpool when Martinez turned them down saying liverpool never had the pulling power anymore LIVINGIN THE past. now he is insulting everton saying there not big enough. Martinez record in premier is shocking, liverpool got lucky escape in Martinez turning them down, god I hope we don't get him, yes it would be good to get someone who turned liverpool down but sorry better people available. gujo
He was spoken to by Liverpool but was NEVER offered the job!
15 May 2013 20:29:49
If moyes comes back for Fellaini we should try to get Hernandez or Wellbeck into the deal regardless of
Who is are next manager a regular
Goalscorer is a must if we are to progress
WELBECK FOR F~*+ SAKE, TWO GOALS THIS SEASON TOP PLAYER EH!
Add that to Vid and Jelavic tally and we will have a 10 goals a season strike force!
15 May 2013 19:53:06
Any1 heard anything about the fresh takeover rumors?
There isn't any, it is all BS from an april fools joke and the media have only just picked up on it
15 May 2013 18:21:32
Is Moyes going to help Everton out by loaning Zaha out to us?
What, have we become a charity all of a sudden? Moyes will do what is best for MUFC, not Everton.
I wouldn't bet on it. can see him trying to palm Welbeck off on us though
15 May 2013 20:22:32
What u mean palm Wellbeck off, I would love him to come to us, hungry striker with pace
Degsy
Welbeck's record is shocking! this season 26 apps. 1 goal
I'd sooner sign mikel madar again
The Welbeck shocking posters don't watch football. They sit and read numbers and think they know something about the game. Utd Madrid he was best player on the pitch, he has stood out for England and his goal scoring record when played as an actual striker is good. For us he would out score Jelavic anyday
Well said Degsy and last poster
15 May 2013 16:09:21
Any chance of farve as new manager (Broussia m'gladbach)
15 May 2013 17:51:43
Anything on rene girard? The montpellier manager wants too experience in england sposedly. {Ed007's Note - He has shown an interest in the Newcastle job if it becomes available.}
If he wants to manage in England then Bill the Buffoon needs to get in first
Ed - did nt pardew sign a 7 year contract at the end of last year? Reckon the ashley would get rid of him. the cost would surely be enormous. and any manager coming in would require the same insurance given ashlyes record. Surely everton are a better prospect than newcastle right now. Additionally DW doing more stirring about bigger clubs. at the moment. Oother than cheslsea, surely everton is the biggest club in the UK that needs a manager. who is DW refrring to when he mentions bigger clubs are after RM is thegut really that batty or just stirring things up like I have eluded to in other threads?jlaff {Ed003's Note - 8 years I think but I'm sure any compo would not equate to 8 years salary that would have been in the contract I'd imagine}
Pardues salary is very low in football terms but heavily increased with bonuses. 8 years compo wouldn be a lot to shell out should Ashley get rid.
Toffee ace.
Thanks Ed, toffee ace. just wondering whether newcastle could realistically change manager and if it would impact our option. Jlaff {Ed007's Note - I think there is a good chance of Pardew and Newcastle parting company, the fans have turned on him and that's never a good sign. I don't think it will have any bearing on Everton's search for a manager, Everton will be looking for a good manager who has a plan, Newcastle will be looking for a quick fix. Anyone that would choose Newcastle over Everton needs their head read IMO.}
Good points Ed 07 total agreement now that you have spelt it out. Cheers jlaff {Ed007's Note - :-)
Can I clear this up as I'm a bit confused. ? Are blues really saying on here they want PARDEW??
No. that's nt what was being said. Persoanally I wouldn't want him near the team. What I was asking was if Pardews job is on the line that means there is another club looking for a manager which means we will be competing with Newcastle, chelsea, man ciitty and possibly Fulham if rumours are correct (granted chelsea and man city may well compete for a "higher" class of candidate). jlaff
15 May 2013 15:26:28
Pierra spelt name wrong but you know who I mean. The more I think about it I want him and a lot of Everton fans are saying the same but if we get Martinez I will still be happy but I would like this guy to get the job all i'm hearing is good positive stuff about him but honestly I don't think our board are ambitious enough to make the move that is if even he would accept the job.
Rene Girard with Dunc ir Skip Pip as no. 2 is the way forward.
15 May 2013 15:03:47
Aside from his lack of experience in management, what is there not to like about the suggestion that Duncan Ferguson becomes the next manager of Everton Football Club? If DM - who's a hard taskmaster - speaks highly of DF and calls him a "changed man" in terms of his attitude, commitment, hard work, and determination, then maybe he could succeed. It's a massive risk of course - but so is whoever is chosen - so why not? My little fear is that one or two others in the current coaching staff might feel snubbed if an in-house appointment is DF rather than them. I'd not want to disrupt the U-21 and U-18 coaching setups, as they've had a relatively successful year on the field - I just wish their players would get more of a sniff of the first team. As for the coaches, it's good if they have personal ambition, but perhaps some people are more suited to coaching and developing players rather than managing. Besides, in the words of Harry Callahan (Clint Eatwood): "A man's got to know his limitations. "
No internal appointments for me, we're not club that can afford to give an inexperienced manager a chance, that should be done in the championship or lower it's irrelevant how well they know the club or what kind of character they are it's just big a risk.
15 May 2013 18:59:54
If it is Dunc or somebody with no experience, I should like to see a Director of Football appointed. Just to oversee the entire playing side like a Reid or a Royle.
Give him the assistant post to Girard.
Reid or Royle. sorry completely disagree as much as I like those guys. they are nt capable of improving what moyes did. and that's what we want. I am waiting for Andy Gray to be given a shout! jlaff
Royle? Not more pathetic up and under football. Some Everton fans really do need to get in the 21st century
16 May 2013 00:25:54
I said as director of football, not as first team manager.
So you want an inexperienced manager and guys (aside the fa cup win ) who can't cut it. do you remember the abuse joe was getting towards the end of his tenure. great player average manager who had his chance same for reidy I'm afraid. everton legends but not managers or directors of anything. would be a disaster waiting to happen. jlaff
16 May 2013 02:04:14
It's more about the need for a director of football rather than who. Right now we have a power vacuum until a new manager is appointed.
Who is there, to make decisions about player signings or sales this is the busiest time and not just at first team level.
We need somebody there for the longterm making decisions in the interests of the club and not just somebody who will be there 3 years until the fans are fed up or gets poached by another club.
15 May 2013 14:47:23
Big Dunc - Nailedon Cert
Bring it on
15 May 2013 14:36:24
Just a thought, but with The Mirror, Mail and Talks. e selling everyone including the Tea Lady to Man Utd, Chelsea and Arsenal. Surely no one is going to consider becoming the new manager unless he has a say in who goes, or more importantly who STAYS. Also unless he interested in signing him for Everton WTF is Moyes doing holding talks with Rooney?
And what happens to his reputation if it goes pear shaped. give him time to learn his trade
15 May 2013 14:35:30
I noticed that Howard Kendall has recommended Duncan Ferguson for Everton manager.
He said: "Duncan would be a popular choice with a lot of people. I think he would be the perfect man and I would really like to see him being given the chance. He is the type of character who could handle the pressure. He would have a presence and it really could work with someone perhaps a little bit older alongside him. "
I wonder who Howard thinks that "little bit older" person could possibly be ;-)
I hope HK had tongue firmly in cheek when he said this,
If not he's lost more than his hair!
Blue247
Couldn't agree more, this guy seems real class & pretty much everything everton FCC need right now, the fact there would b no compensation also would much more dosh up for squad reinforcements, let's hope bill sees sense & gets perriera. 9
15 May 2013 14:34:45
Just found a cracking article on Vitor Pereira, enjoy lads.
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/quiet-man-porto-vitor-pereira-3810572
BitterBlue
You do realise that he got booed when he lifted us the trophy the porto fans hate him and reckon he's the worst manager despite his record they've had in ages he's not media friendly and is just a horrible man by all accounts this was told to me by a porto fan
He's a quiet man, who would you rather have - a nice guy who doesn't win anything or someone who isn't really media friendly but wins trophies? I know who I would want and he ticks all my boxes.
Some people on here are in desperate need of anger management.
I don't care if he is nice or not. Just needs to sign up and get us a trophy.
Toffee ace
15 May 2013 23:41:32
I know you're advocating Pereira, Bitter, and you, and others, may just get your wish if the rumours of him being a guest of BK's at GP are true.
15 May 2013 13:22:08
Dont exactly see why some of the people on the Telegraph are shouting they don't want Martinez. He has had not many good players to work with - the defence especially - and not much money either. He has a lot of talent coming up at Wigan (McManaman, McArthy and McArthur etc. ), and in 4 seasons have a goal difference of -109, which is -27 if split into a single season. That isn't bad considering the conditions he's had to work in, with a little money and better players, I reckon he could be the man! also, who do we all think he's going to bring in? Personally I don't know, maybe McManaman, McArthur, Honda and Fer. What do you think will happen Eds? Who do you think we'll get as manager and who will we sign? Will
McManaman and McCarthy maybe, McArthur no thanks.
He has spent more money than moyes so if he hasn't many good players says all you need to know about him really
The answer is simple, he's a poor football manager.
15 May 2013 12:29:06
hope powells odds have come down, I kid you not, check it out for yourself, i'm not saying which bookie, as I don't want to give them free publicity
15 May 2013 12:07:12
Great Piece on newsnow by the daily post on Vitor Pereira. Talks about his work ethic, coping after selling best players, working with and identifying youth, and how important defense is also! Well worth a read, and I want hime here more than ever now! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE BILL, MAKE THIS HAPPEN!
BLUE DAZZLE
Yea i'm reading some good stuff about him aswell likes to build from the back up. He works well with defences and also installs good attacking football hmmm I won't say know if he is intrested.
The man is horrible and NOT media friendly don't want him TEAM MARTINEZ
3rd Poster:
It's OK to spout your opinion and if you want Roberto here then so be it.
However to shout down others and not give a name of some sort, kind of makes you a bit of a shadowy type of Blue don't you think?!
Btw. just for the record one of these managers is successful in his league, the other is a serial failure in his.
Just sayin like :)
And my name is Blue247
Yeh that's what's important being media friendly? Back to back titles but your right let's go for the nice man who has just took his team down??
Pereira was booed by his own fans when he lifted up the title because he is a poor manager with a great squad and being media friendly is a big part of the job today. You lot know absolutely nothing about him and just want him because we have been linked and he has a good record. Periera's man management is terrible and he is classed by the Porto fans as one of the worst managers in their history. Look this up if you don't believe me. Martinez all the way
How am I shouting down others
PIN 678
15 May 2013 11:51:54
Fabrizio Ravenelli also interested in Managers Position but will expect the 3 year £10 million deal to be paid Netto!
15 May 2013 11:41:37
Rene Girard is a perfect fit for the managers job.
Lots of experience, works on a budget, gives youth a chance, copes when losing his best players, knows what it's like to win things ( French title ) Out of contract in the summer and wants to come to the PL.
He's nearly 60 so stick a youngster as his no. 2 who can take over after a few years, job done.
Much more an exciting option to some of the dross being linked.
WHATS OUR NAME!
Cant agree more, such a shame his name isn't being linked to us.
Seems like the perfect candidate for us.
This guy with duncan as assistant?
I would love Rene even if just for the 80s Allo Allo reference.
15 May 2013 11:28:01
Riquelme spotted at finch farm could be our new manager
Ha ha, been waiting for this one
15 May 2013 11:24:23
darren bent wants a move and we need more options upfront, I would have him in my squad any day, am not saying he is the answer but if we could get him in with another sticker who could get 15-20 goals our forward line would be formidable with bent jelevic anichebe + sum1 along the lines of bony or any1 we can get in that's 4 strikers who r perfectly capable of scoring 15 goals a piece next yr we would defo b in the top 4 add to that a fully fit mirallas and we r lookin top 3 ad say
any1 agree or am I getting a little bit carried away?
15 May 2013 11:08:19
Really wanting Vitor to the extent i'm trawling Portugese newspapers for any hints of any interest from Bill. just one snag. I don't know any Portugese!
David Moyes indicou Phil Neville como seu sucessor no Everton, apesar de os dirigentes do clube ingl�s estarem a ponderar avan�ar para V�tor Pereira.
Any Portugese blues out there for above meaning?
Mushy
It means
David Moyes appointed as his successor Phil Neville at Everton, although the Englishman club officials are considering to move forward Vtor Pereira.
15 May 2013 12:38:04
Thanks for that. no more than we hear over here then!
15 May 2013 11:07:35
Just a thought Martinez doe's play good football but always struggling at the bottom of the league and now down, he has had some good players but could'nt keep them, less money than us, would he be any better with our budget?. Laudrup looks to be an excellent manager but a bit of a traveler, if he came here we would be his sixth club since 2002 Bronby, Getafe, Spartak Moscow, RCD Mallorca and Swansea, if he did come he may not stay very long. IMO Porto's VP still the best bet, a quiet man who let's his football do his talking. KK.
15 May 2013 11:03:02
hi guys! just a quick question on our new kits! really wierd that there hasn't been a announcment on them as this time last year we all had a idea of what the nike ones were going to look like! we havnt even had a leaked photo of some jap knock off yet
Tbh mate I think the club has more important issues to deal with right now than releasing the new kit
15 May 2013 10:57:21
what are the chances of wigan pulling out from europa league, I've heard some people say its not worth it for them (with being relegated)
Millwall still participated when they qualified. Even smaller club. Why would they say no to the extra revenue the games would generate. To be fair they deserve it, they played us and Man City off the park.
15 May 2013 10:48:35
Just don't trust Martinez's defending and what will happen when older players need replacing don't think he's strong enough to take us forward long term.
Martinez, is a nice guy, but for me, that's the problem. We need a driven, ruthless, ego maniac, someone willing to do whatever it takes to win.
15 May 2013 10:13:15
Wigans PL finishes before Martinez:
10th
17th
14th
11th
When Martinez came in:
16th
16th
15th
18th
Really lads do you really want Martinez, Moyes brought in players like Arteta, Cahill and Pienaar on the cheap and Martinez spend money on crap like Jason Koumas for £5.3m!
15 May 2013 10:06:18
Heard a strong rumour going round that are next manager is lambert with butler as the assistant, if not them were going for Benson & Hedges
ITK (The Special One)!
15 May 2013 11:19:24
None of above. John Player (known as the special one)
15 May 2013 09:37:47
O. k well where to start? Martinez.
Just my opinion, but for me he just isn't good enough for our great club! There appears to be a divide of opinions forming on here now regarding the man, and the "Martinez wanters" point to how he would do a better job with better players, and how this season it is due to defensive injuries that Wigan have eventually gone down. Now I accept that this is probably true for this season, but the key word here is the one in my last sentence. EVENTUALLY. For the past 3-4 seasons CONSISTENTLY, Martinez and Wigan have flirted with relegation and only really played out of their skins to stave off the possibility of the drop during their last 6-8 games of the season! So are we to believe that for 3 seasons running Wigan have suffered defensive injuries?, or is it far more likely that Martinez displays a level of tactical flaws defensively?! Either that or he's just seriously unlucky, and therefore not someone I would like in charge at my beloved Blues anyway!
For me, Slaven Bilic or Vitor Pereira are the men who I believe will take us forward. Initially my first choice was Bilic, but now I'm far more inclined to go with Pereira for a number of reasons. Firstly, he's out of contract very shortly and would therefore mean no compensation. This has a positive effect given that it should then free that money up for transfers. Secondly, his Porto team with only 1 game remaining are still unbeaten all season! Now, I accept that Porto are an excellent side but still, this is an incredible achievement by anyones standards!
This to me demonstrates the man has the ability to be a winner, and that habit of winning is a great addiction to have! Winning breeds confidence, which in turn gives positive attitude going into the next game, and the next, and so on! It also shows that defensively he has more to offer us than Martinez could do, as I don't believe that his unbeaten streak has been simply a case of just "scoring more than they do"! When all said and done, as an Evertonian I will stand by whatever choice the club make and support the team through thick and thin regardless, but given the choice, TEAM PEREIRA or TEAM MARTINEZ? Pereira all the way for me gents. So who's with me?
BLUE DAZZLE
TEAM PEREIRA
Everton Al.
Total buffoon as a premier league manager, talks a good game but clueless. Leave Martinez to light up the championship, he's found his level. We already have one buffoon as a chairman, one at the club is enough.
I'm with you DAZZLE. Team Pereira!
BitterBlue
Great post and I am with you blue dazzle, we need someone like him to beef things up, with good attacking football, coyb
Team Pereira!
Team Pereira here also.
I think we'll be luck to get Martinez right now,
Have a horrble feeling that BK lack of ambition is going to bite us in our backsides big time.
a week later and were shall no closer, no shortlist and no interviews held, Utd, city both knew who they want and will get there man.
It's not a hard choice to make. does bill want to move the team forward or to take us backwards.
Our new manager should have internation or big comp experience, won trophies in the recent past, tactically sound
Porto season still not over yet, so hopefully Bill waiting on the outcome before approaching Pereira! lol.
(well that's what I'm trying to convince myself!)
BLUE DAZZLE
15 May 2013 09:08:26
Now correct me on this one if I'm wrong (I'm getting slightly confused in my old age). I was always led to believe you had to be good at your job and show tangible achievements on your cv before being considered for promotion?
Echo online this morning, ' Roberto Martinez's position as favourite to become next Everton FC manager strengthened by Wigan's relegation'.
Yes 'strenghened' does appear in the sub heading. well sorry but if they are indeed correct and Martinez is appointed we should replace the Z Cars tune with The Muppets opening gingle.
In the words of the late Victor Meldrew, 'I doooon't believe it!'
Mushroom Man
15 May 2013 08:26:43
This isn't a rumour but I'd love slaven bilic to be named as manager I think he would b a good fit what u think ed?
15 May 2013 08:00:00
If pirerea comes atsu and defour any one or even. moutinho
15 May 2013 07:43:26
Just can't help but think it will it drag on for a new manager like our transfers do! We need to act fast come on bk
15 May 2013 00:46:15
Just on what you replied to me earlier degsy I agree with that mate what a dream that would be. Could only imagine what we would do with money wow well you got to dream mate lol COME ON YOU BLUE BOYS
15 May 2013 00:10:44
Bbc stating Fulham interested in poyet. So jol, and Benitez both out of contract. Martinez' Wigan demoted. hmm could be interesting. think bk has to make his moves now. to make sure he gets who he wants. assuming any of these are in the frame.
Pireira
Jol is not out of contract at all, but he's not happy at Fulham though.
15 May 2013 08:13:28
We will probably find it is no one we have been talking about lol
I can't believe we have not got a manager, wouldn't have guessed this a while back because I thought Moyes would be here for years
Degsy
We will probably find it is no one we have been talking about
Who's left Degsy? We have just about named every available manager on the planet
I think jol has more chance of being named alongside kevin webster and fred the weather man as he has taking over from moyes.
15 May 2013 15:13:36
ha ha, I think the only person so far not touted for manager is our Ed 025.
How much you want a week Ed ££££
Degsy {Ed003's Note - He's on his Jolly's for a few days Degsy,but he woulcn't want much I'm sure}